you've live in the "cnn newsroom." i'm jim acosta in washington. former president donald trump is campaigning in the key battleground state of iowa, and he's back to pushing his lies about the 2020 election. the former president told supporters he hopes judges will let the 2020 election be prosecuted in court. the gop front-runners encouraged his supporters to go into vote-counting facilities in 2024, saying they need to watch the votes. let's go live to kristen holmes in cedar rapids, iowa. kristen, you're there with the former president. looks like he'll be talking there shortly. what can you tell us? >> reporter: yeah, jim, i mean, as you noted, right now, we are just about six weeks away from the iowa caucus in 2024, and donald trump is still talking about the 2020 election. now, earlier today at another event in iowa, he asked his voters, encouraged them, actually, to go into big cities, democratic strongholds, and watch the vote. take a listen. >> the most important part of what's coming up is to guard the vote. and you should go into detroit and you should go into philadelphia and you should go into some of these places, atlanta, and you should go into some of these places and we got to watch those votes when we come in, when they're being, you know, shoved around in wheelbarrows dumped on the floor. we're live a third world nation. a third world nation. we can't let it happen. >> now, obviously, as you know, trump's own advisers have hoped and asked him to stop talking about the 2020 election, but that's something he remains fixated on. for this speech here in iowa today, we're told he's going to attack president joe biden, shifting the narrative to a general election. while they didn't tell us exactly what he's going to say, they did have these signs made that they're passing out. they say "biden attacks democracy." now, obviously, this has been a big argument of biden's against donald trump, particularly pointing to donald trump's work to try and overturn the results of the 2020 election. clearly looks as though former president trump is going to try and flip the narrative there. this is also coming at a time when the biden campaign has ramped up its criticism. donald trump really fixating on overturning obamacare, something he failed to do when he was in office. that gave a lot of ammunition to democrats and the biden campaign. they have released ads on that, talking about how trump is planning on taking away health care for millions of americans. obviously, jim, we are in a different position than when we were back in 2016 when trump was elected to the white house. aca, the affordable care act, is actually increasingly popular, so, this has given new ammunition to democrats. >> fascinating. and if we can show viewers that image of the sign they're handing out at the trump rally, it saieally, it sails s it saiays "biden attacks democracy." i feel like we're in the upside down. kristen holmes, thank you very much. we'll get back to you. i understand steve might also be with us, he's covering things from the side of the ron desantis campaign. he has a lot of catching up to do in iowa, steve, are they confident that this 99-county tour that desantis has been on, will pay off? we've seen other candidates, i remember rick santorum doing this in 2012. it did help them out in that state. what about desantis? >> reporter: well, jim, publicly, they have to be confident. all their eggs are in a strong performance in iowa. this early caucus state is so important to the strategy. they've actually moved most of their campaign staff to des moines, iowa. now, privately, his campaign and some of the advisers acknowledge that, look, six weeks is not a lot of time to turn this around, and they need to start seeing some movement in the polls. some thing that shows that he's catching a spark. and they also acknowledge that nikki haley is posing a challenge for them. that she's a wild card in this race, they didn't expect her to be so well-funded going into this part of the election. but they also believe that six weeks is still enough time to turn things around, and that blanketing the state with appearances is one of the ways they're going to make headway into trump's lead. listen to what governor ron desantis had to say earlier today in sioux city, iowa, about how his campaign is reaching as many people as possible. >> the cumulative effect of all this is, there's one candidate that showed up to your community, asked you for your vote and told you what he's going to do for america. and that's me. people are not eating and breathing this until it gets cl closer. you're going to see a lot of the support break our way over the next month and a half. >> reporter: now, governor desantis is about to hold an event right behind me, you see them getting ready for it. this is to celebrate the fact they have hit 99 counties out of 99 in iowa. as you said, jim, this is sort of a storied tradition in iowa. you try to get to every corner of the state, try to will yourself momentum and victory. it has some successes, some not so much, however, they believe this is the best path they have, and look, they don't just have the many appearances here, they have the support of kim reynolds and some of faith leaders who have been critical in influencing the caucuses here in the past. this is how they believe they're going to win this thing. they're going to win over as many as they can, and try to tap into those networks to convince people it's time to move on from president trump. >> sounds like campaign season where you are right now, steve. kristen, thank you both. thank you for getting us off to a strong start. let's discuss more now with democratic congresswoman jasmine cr crockett of texas. thank you so much for joining us. you serve on the house oversight committee, member of the house p progression office. kristen holmes was showing some of the signs that are being handed out at this trump rally in iowa, and one of the signs says "biden attacks democracy." just want to get your reaction to that. >> yeah, when you said that we were living in the upside down, i was like, oh, thank goodness, it's not just me. absolutely. that's everyday in congress for me, though, unfortunately right now. you know, there is only one team that has fought for democracy, and this isn't just in words, but this is actions. we know that we don't have a strong voting rights act right now, simply because the twice impeached former president made sure that he installed three very far-right supreme court justices that gutted that. that was one of the many steps that he took as it relates to democracy. in addition to his own legal troubles that he has right now, that have him in hot water, as it relates to january 6th, as it relates to honestly, you know, his phone calls that he wanted to make about overturning the election and calling down to georgia. so, we know that there's only one person that actually has a track record when it comes to harming democracy, and that's trump. >> and congresswoman, not to belabor the point, but i wanted to ask you about what he said, what trump said at this event earlier today, telling his supporters that they should be going into election centers, vote tabulation centers, in places like detroit, philadelphia, to, quote, guard the vote. when you hear the former president use that kind of language what goes through your mind? >> it was dog whistle, again, for me. he loves to rile up the racists that love to support him. and, you know, i went through this in the texas house, where last session, they decided to go through this process of making sure that there were people that could observe and guard the vote, so to speak. there was an article that came out and there was this audio of this recording, saying, we have to go into houston. there's always a target on majority minority cities for this former president, and it is still dumbfounding to me how minorities are starting to flock to him more, considering the fact that he always says the quiet part out loud. >> yeah, and i do want to ask you about something that -- headline coming out of capitol hill today, the speaker mike johnson says he thinks he has a necessary vote to launch an impeachment inquiry into president biden. >> formal impeachment inquiry vote on the floor will allow us to take it to the next step and i think it's something we have to do at this juncture. >> congresswoman, your reaction to that. what did you think of that? >> i mean, you never know what you're going to get out of the house republicans at this point. they were arguing that we didn't need a vote, they said, nancy said she didn't need a vote, so we don't need a vote, so we're not going to do a vote. kevin mccarthy said it was good enough, that he as speaker decided there was going to be a formal impeachment inquiry, my chairman has made it clear that he had gotten all the documents that he requested, and speaking of documents, we know there's been over 30,000 pages worth of banking documents that have been turned into this committee, and what's so interesting to me is that they started by going after hunter biden, they've been going after hunter biden since the trump administration, and we've still note r gotten very far. they don't feel like they can connect the dots to say that hunter has done something wrong and that wrong has implicated the president. what is funny about this, they collected tubs of documents on george santos, and they were able to decide that there was enough there. not only in the house, but they were able to decide that when it came down to prosecuting george santos. this is much to do about nothing. they have been embarrassed over and over and over. hunter, just this past week, said, hey, i will come in, i will testify in a transparent way. we know comer invited him to testify before. he just didn't realize that hunter would take him up on it. he said, never mind, i don't want to do this this is a bad move for them. it's missed up their pr, and it has messed them up, and the american people are still saying what we want is lower gas prices, what we want is lower food prices, what we want is access to health care. they are not saying, go and impeach joe biden, but the republicans, they don't want to do the work of the american people. >> let me ask you about george santos' expulsion from the house. i knknow you went on x, formerl known as twitter, writing that if the republican party does not change coursange course, the ne santos will only be one election away. what did you mean by that? >> yeah, i mean, if he's allowed to get away with this flagrantly violating every rule, every ethic, every law, and still stay in his seat, that means they're rewarding the bad behavior, and we've seen them consistently reward the bad behavior when it comes to trump. the difference between trump and santos is that trump has a lot more powerful and so, they wanted to say, hey, we took the high road, we got rid of the bad guy. but to be honest, santos was the low man on the totem pole. they are trying to score a few points to save some of those republicans in new york that are in biden's seat, in fact, there's republicans, i believe, in 18 biden seats, not just in new york, but throughout this country, and right now, they don't -- they know they can't hold onto the majority unless those in biden's seats win, as well. so, this was one of those things, like, hey, we've got to do it, but only because they're looking out for their own hind parts, not because it was necessarily the right thing to do. in fact, the speaker at the last minute said, hey, vote no. initially, he said vote your conscience. but once he realized that that meant that santos was about to be kicked out, he and other members of leadership decided, never mind, we need him here. especially since they don't know if they're going to be able to hold onto that seat. >> all right, congresswoman crockett, thank you for your time this afternoon, really appreciate it. >> absolutely, jim. >> all right, thanks. coming up, being a president doesn't mean a get out of jail free pass. we'll break down the scathing ruling from a federal judge about trump's election subversion case right here in d.c. plus, what we're learning about why the negotiations between israel and hamas broke down and the fighting is back on. and later, the cdc says flu levels are rising fast across the u.s., and rsv is in, quote, full swing. should you be concerned about than? we'll talk about that a little bit later on. stay with us. now to the latest in the middle east. last hour, our teams on the ground saw rocks intercepted over tel aviv. cnn's matthew chance is live for us with the latest. matthew, you witnessed the sirens going off just moments ago. what's the latest? >> yeah, absolutely. we're actually attending a vigil in support of the hostages that are still being held inside the gaza strip, and it had just come to an end when those sirens went off and there were thousands of people in the street and everybody sort of scattered to various shelters, but take a listen to that scene now, it just shows you, the militant groups inside gaza still have the capability to fire rockets into israel. take a listen. [ sirens wailing ] yeah, the iron dome intercepted it shortly after that went off, and i think, you know, struck those rockets, because we didn't hear any further explosions. at the vigil, interesting, thousands of people attending it in the center of tel aviv, showing support for the hostages that are still in the gaza strip. everybody, of course, jim, agrees that -- everyone here at least that those hostages should be released as soon as possible. there is a division about how best to achieve that. there are those that think the government isn't focusing enough on getting those hostages released, and the fact that the negotiators from qatar have been withdrawn by israel over the past several hours, you know, isn't helping with that sentiment. others think, you know, and agree with the government that now is the time to put more military pressure, more military pressure on hamas. in the hope of getting more hostages out in the future, jim. >> all right, matthew chance, thank you very much. as israel continues its air strikes on gaza, the u.s. is doubling down on the need to protect civilians. >> as israel defends itself, it matters how. the united states is unequivocal. international humanitarian law must be respected. too many innocent palestinians have been killed. frankly, the scale of civilian suvering and the images and videos coming from gaza are devastating. >> and joining me now is michael oren. thank you for joining us, ambassador. what is your response to what vice president kamala harris had to say there? >> good to be with you, jim, as always. but of course, these images are painful for us, as well. israel doesn't want to see palestinian suffering. and it's important to note, and i wish the vice president had noted, that we're dealing with an enemy that's hiding behind these civilians all the time and using them as human shields. even as palestinians have fled the come babat zones, hamas hasd with them and continues to use them as human shields. so, israel will continue to exercise extreme caution. i think it's further than probably any army on earth, whether it be sending text messages, leafletting, it is extremely difficult. for hamas, they are moving targets. and i know there are people in the administration who do appreciate that, and we will continue to exercise that caution to the greatest degree possible. keep in mind, we also have to guard the lives of our soldiers, precious to us. >> and ambassador, i do want to talk to you about, i guess some of the, i guess the lengths that you're going to try to get palestinians out of harm's way, but i guess first of all, there was a collapse in the talks that were going on between israel, hamas, other parties, with regard to the plight of the hostages that are still being held in gaza. what is your sense of where things stand right now? how do we get those talks going again? so we can see more hostages coming out? >> well, the one key issue is the women and children. israel claims -- they still have at least 13, as many as 17 women and children are held hostage. hamas says they have no more. i would doubt that. i'm not an official spokesman, jim, but i heard there's a fear that hamas won't let out women that have been raped multiple times. so, that's going to be very, very painful. israel has to maintain the pressure on hamas. these negotiations happen to begin with for only one reason, because israel ramped up the military pressure on hamas. to be able to get the hostages out so far successfully because of that pressure. we have to continue it, and meanwhile, we're witnessing these surreal situations, you know, the rockets that you just saw, have just been several of more than 10,000 rockets that have been fired at israel. many in those rockets go over my house in southern tel aviv, we have an ishe dome just to the east othos those take out the rockets right over our head. iron dome is 90% effective. ten break through 100, and they land. they knocked down an entire apartment building next to my house awhile ago. and then you have people protesting and demonstrating in favor of the hostages, that encapsulates all the horror of this war and the terrible decisions that the israeli government has to make. >> yeah. israel's military says it's carried out more than 400 strikes in the first 24 hours since the truce with hamas ended. we know that hamas ministry of health is not exactly your most trusted source, but they say since friday, close to 200 people have been killed. hundreds more wounded. if you are telling people -- if you told people at the beginning of all this to move to the south to get out of harm's way and now you're trying to send texts and drop leaflets to get people out of harm's way in the south, isn't there the likelihood that civilians won't get those messages or may not have somewhere to go, because they've already relocated to the south and will be in harm's way when that dom bardment starts in that part of gaza? isn't that just something that's likely to take place? >> well, we're doing our best. again. it is -- it is a complex combat situation, where hamas is using these people as human shields. we're trying to move them away from places where the air force is liable to strike or the ground forces are liable to intervene. hamas has used these pauses, these cease-fires, to move terrorists from the north to the south, to keep them behind the human shields, as it has moved, as well. and keep in mind, for israel, this is an existential battle. it's not as if we really have a choice, jim. we have 250,000 people who are homeless tonight. they can't go back to their homes along the border, as long as hamas can reorganize, rearm, and restage another raid such as that, the attack of october 7th. that is precisely what hamas leaders say they're going to do, they're not goguise their intention. we have to stop them. and -- release the hostages. there's not a lot of wiggle room here, and, you know, you know that in my background, i can't think in history any government that had to make decisions like this. there's no short cut. there's no easy way, but israel has to defeat hamas, it has to do its best to retrieve the hostages, all the while, and i stress, all the while, trying to minimize civilian casualties. >> ambassador, i have to get your response to the "new york times" article that israel knew of hamas' plan to attack, the date was not known, but there were a great number of details in that planning information that went to -- or that was obtained by israeli intelligence officials. what -- what was your response to that? i mean, did you hit the roof when you saw this report? did that just -- >> no, i wasn't -- >> what did you make of that, did it surprise you at all that some of these warnings were dismissed? >> no, it didn't. i'll tell you the truth. there was an interesting report, and having been in government and the military a long time, i know that military intelligence is an imperfect science. there are many, many estimates. in 2011, our intelligence and american intelligence said that bashar al assad would only remain two months in power and she's still around today, 12 years later, or when america recognized jerusalem as israel's capital, all the estimates was that the middle east would go up in flames, and nothing happened. it's an imperfect science. and it's very important to check and certainly investigate later, who was the highest-ranking officer to read this report? and if it wasn't passed on, why it wasn't passed on. it could be that people said, this is an interesting report, we don't think hamas has this type of capability to mount this, it's aspirational, it's a dream. i think what's more disturbing for me reading it is why leaked, who leaked it. and we're seeing the beginnings of political struggles in israel about who was responsible for october 7th, whether it be the government, the prime minister, and/or the army. and i asked myself, whose interest was it to leak this document? who is it trying to make look bad? and i haven't come to a conclusive answer about that. but when you leak a document of this type of sensitivity, highly classified document, to a news organization like "the new york times," there's got to be a reason behind it. the rest of it will be invest gaited, as will many other failures of october 7th. >> all right, ambassador michael oren, thank you for your time. we appreciate it. >> as, jim. >> thank you. coming up, former president donald trump is racking up more legal losses, including two in the same day. we'll break down the rulings just ahead. in order for small businesses to thrive, they need to be smart, efficient, savvy. making the most of every opportunity. that's why comcast business is introducing the small business bonus. for a limited time you can get up to a $1000 prepaid card with qualifying internet. yep, $1000. so switch to business internet from the company with the largest fastest 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day, as this thing moves its way through all of the expected appeals, but a very notable ruling. the former president was making the case that because everything in this indictment covers things that happened while he was pres president, he can't be prosecuted. the only problem with that theory, jim, was that the judge completely disagreed with it. she said, it's not supported by the text of the constitution, it's not what our founding fathers had in mind when they wrote the constitution. she wroted george washington's farewell address and the federalist papers. and she said there's no supreme court precedent for it. another quote from judge ch chutkan, she said, whatever immunities a sitting president may enjoy, the united states has only one chief executive at a time, and that position does not confer a life-long get out of jail free pass. so, no free pass for the president, but he will appeal, and the trial is scheduled for march, so, he will probably try to get this before the supreme court at some point before that. >> yeah, and i -- i supposed the appeals will continue, and that has the potential to delay things further. brad, let's pick up on what marshall just laid out for us. what stands out to you, i mean, it sounds as though what trump is trying to get is just immunity, no matter when he did it and -- or when he's being held accountable for it. >> yeah, this is the political talking points that trump has been pushing for a couple years. this is the rubber finally meeting the road. when it gets into a court of law, when you get it before judges and they rule as a matter of law on these arguments, they go nowhere. this argument went nowhere, the one in the civil case for immunity went nowhere, the one in florida, if we ever get to pretrial motions in that case, where he's arguing he's immune under the presidential records act, will go know where as a matter of law. he doesn't have legal defenses. he's got political talking points, and he's got an ability to drag out the process. that's his only hope here. he's going to obvious ly appeal this. if he loses it at the circuit, he'll appeal up to the supreme court. the only hope is to get this pushed off until after the election in the hopes that he somehow wins next november. we saw some of that, preview of that, in the georgia hearing yesterday where they said, even if there's the georgia case still going on, it would have to wait until after he would serve his second term. >> right, and that's the question that i have, to follow up on what you were saying. if a lot of this is just sort of injecting political speech into legal arguments that his team is making, is it not really about the arguments that they're making and whether or not there's any kind of legal ground for a judge to rule on, is it really just more about delaying and -- we're just going to keep trying whatever we can, throw whatever we can against the wall, see what sticks, and see if it just buys us enough time to get to the election, get us past the election, and if trump wins, they think maybe all this goes away. what do you think? >> i think that has to be their primary approach. they are just playing for time and trying to delay. these aren't entirely frivolous arguments. there was anybody that was pros c prosecuted in this was going to be the idea of immunity. anybody gets indicted, tied to use of classified information, is going to raise a question like donald trump is expected to raise in florida. but we all knew, every competent legal analyst knew these arguments weren't going to fly, but they take time to resolve. and that's why i think judge chutkan, recognizing the circuit and the supreme court are going to have to look at what she did, took the time to craft this ruling. it went back to what the founders were saying when they crafted the constitution and addressing these issues that the idea of the president is not a king. that's why the ruling says what it says and how it framed it out. i think it will hold up under scrutiny. >> and marshall, i mean, just to follow up on that, what is the likelihood that, i mean, because this is going to continue, as you said, this could go all the way to the supreme court, and they'll have to decide on it. that he could push all these trials, some, if not all of these trials, until after the election. >> it's possible. judge chutkan, in the federal election subversion case here in d.c., has been steadfast in terms of her desire to hold steady on that march trial date, march 2024, right in the middle of the republican primaries. >> yeah. >> but it may not be up to her. if the supreme court gets involved, that could slow things down. he's got a very different judge down in florida who is one of his own appointees who has given him some favorable rulings, so, different cases, different judges, maybe different outcomes. >> brad? >> yeah, that florida case is a wild card. if that ever gets to trial. i don't care who the judge is, i don't care who the population for a jury pool is, he loses at trial. his only hope with that one is to delay that off until after the election, which, at the moment, given the delays that judge cannon has permitted, sts cer is certainly a possibility. >> all right, marshall and brad, thank you. really appreciate it. >> absolutely. have a good one. >> you, too. coming up, after getting booted from congress, what is next for george santos? we'll talk about that next. george santos is vowing revenge against several of his congressional colleagues, or former colleagues, i guess we should say, saying that he plans to file ethics complaints against them. this is after he was tossed from the house of representatives in a bipartisan vote on friday. this comes after the ethics committee in the house found overwhelming evidence of unlawful conduct since santos. he is also facing 23 criminal charges, all of which he denies. the locks on his office door were changed, the name plate there taken down. polo sandoval is live in douglaston, new york. i guess we should add former, it's not his district anymore, right? what's the latest? what are you hearing? >> reporter: yeah, jim. add former to what you see behind me. this is all going to have to change eventually here at the now former congressman george santos' district office. the big question here about what happens next. and the thing here, the process that's in place that will allow the constituents in new york's third congressional district to essentially turn the page on what was a very complicated chapter, the process is fairly simple. it will now be by state law new york governor kathy hochul that will announce a special election that we're told will likely happen in february. now, the parties wouldn't actually hold a primary for candidates, so, instead, what we'll see take place, those county party leaders will get together, hold a vote, and then put forth a candidate. already, the pool of potential candidates include everyone from a retired new york police detective, a war veteran, even the man who used to hold that seat before he pursued unsuccessfully a bid for the governorship. so, certainly questions about what's going to happen to what is a critical, politically critical seat here. when you look at the layout of the house of representatives here, and a reminder that santos was just one of four republicans that actually flipped districts that were traditionally blue. so, certainly republicans would have a lot riding on this. in terms of what we have been hearing if the last several days, really since yesterday from residents here, i want you to hear from one of them, who is quite grateful that they're turning that page on what was just a very dark period for this -- for this district. >> i don't like him, because he's a crook, because he's a liar. because i just don't like him. >> i think the people on long island made a mistake. at the beginning. >> so, a couple other things that i heard from constituents today. i asked what they want in their future representatives, they sad competency, professionalism, and finally, one that i kept hearing over and over again, honesty. jim? >> yeah. it was certainly lacking with george santos.hankou very much. appreciate that report. seems like a lot of people are getting sick. what you need to do to keep your family safe and healthy. that's next. now to a cnn health alert. the holidays are right around the corner, and cases of respiratory illnesses are on the rise. 11 states are seeing high or very high levels of illness activity, which can include covid, flu, and other viruses. here to talk about it, dr. lina wen. i hope we're just talking about your garden variety cases of the flu and maybe some covid mixed in, but what is different about this flu season? what's your sense right now? >> jim, it's important for us to set in and say, it's actually not out of the sord their so, normally at this time, we have a confluence of viruses. we have the common viruses that cause the common cold, and you also have the flu, and also rsv, the respiratory virus, which is also very common. nearly every child gets rsv before they turn two. on top of that, we now also have covid, and so, we're seeing this confluence of viruses. not out of the ordinary, though, and actually compared to last year at this time, exactly one year ago, pediatric hospitals were so overwhelmed that the american academy of pediatrics and the children's hospital association were calling for president biden to declare a state of emergency, because the hospitals were so full. we are not at that level. and so, what we're seeing is expected, it doesn't look like there's a new pathogen, and we just have to get through the winter, as we get through all winters. >> okay, that is encouraging news. and, i mean, tell us, is it too late for folks to go out there and get their flu shot? i did this, i got my covid update, i don't know why people don't get these shots, i wish they would, it would certainly tamp down on things. is it too late at this point to get vaccinated on those fronts? >> it's not too late. i also have my covid booster, as well as the flu vaccine, my husband does, people that we know, our patients do, and i would highly recommend that people go and get it. ideally, you have gotten those shots by now, but we know the uptick of the covid booster is still pretty low, even for nursing home residents, only 25% of nursing home residents have gotten the updated covid shots. so, especially if you are 65 and older, if you are somebody with chronic medical conditions, if you live in assisted living, nursing home, you need to have your flu vaccine and your covid booster and you should also, if you are in -- if you are an older individual, consider getting the rsv vaccine, because we need every protection we can get. you don't want to get sick. you don't want to end up in the hospital, and vaccination helps to prevent that. >> yeah, it was a little annoying at first to get that covid booster when it first came out, it was tough to get an appointment, but it's fairly simple to go do. and doctor, what about childhood pneumonia? that is making some headlines, apparently we have an outbreak among some young children in ohio. what do we know about that? >> yeah, it's important to emphasize there is no new pathogen that's been identified. what's going on in ohio appears to be probably due to what we always see, so, it could be due do viruses, bacteria, and fungi. it's common to be few moan ya d pneumonia due to these substances. it's important for parents to watch for concerning signs, a cough that just doesn't go away, persistent fever more than five days, a -- if a child starts developing shortness of breath. young kids in particular, kids under the age of 2, especially newborns who are particularly susceptible to having ill effects from pneumonia. they should contact their provider as soon as possible. but know this is something that we see every respiratory season, even before covid, and so, it's something that we can manage. what we're sees also in china also appears to not be a new pathogen, but due to an increase in viruses and bacteria, so, be on the lookout, health systems should be prepared, but not time for panic or alarm. >> yeah. and a little prevention goes a long way. all right, great to see you, doctor. i see the true behind you. happy holidays. >> you, too, jim. tomorrow, we're bringing you the all-new cnn film "chowchilla," which tells one of the most shocking true crime stories, about the 1976 kidnapping of a school bus full of children. they were buried underground for more than 12 hours before orchestrating their own dramatic escape. here's a preview. >> chowchilla was a wonderful place to grow up. they were little innocent children. never did i think that something like this could happen. >> how does that school bus show up missing? i did not want to go down there. >> it was like somebody just took them up off the planet. >> was it a thrill crime? >> your guess is as good as mine. >> it's a mystery. you had no answers. >> they recovered a journal. >> never seen anything like that. >> kidnappers hit this town right in its heart by taking those children. >> all the way through, they thought they had thought of everything. >> we were being buried alive, and i thought to myself, we're going to die, we're going to die getting the hell out of here. >> when i got home, i thought life would be okay. the kids were not okay. >> god forgive them, because i won't. >> it was possibly the story of the century. >> "chowchilla," tomorrow at 9:00 on cnn. you're live in the "cnn newsroom," i'm jim acosta in washington. while most candidates for the republican nomination are tratrade ing barbs with each other, former president donald trump is

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