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"ac 360" starts now. tonight on 360 more hostages come out of gaza with another group expected tomorrow and talks under way to extend the truce and the flow of captives for as long as possible. also tonight liz chapy's new book, the elevations in it about the former president which she calls his republican enablers and collaborators and how she says they just could not quit him. and later why republican hopeful nikki haley is more hopeful tonight. the surprising big name and money endorsement she just got and how it might change hear campaign. good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin tonight with the hostage. hamas freed 12 more under a truce that expires tomorrow. this is new video taken from inside gaza of the handover from the afp news agency. you see crowds cheering, some shouting as the latest freed hostages are paraded past them in waiting red cross vehicles. two thai nationals are in this group, the latest are ten israelis. still only a single american, 4-year-old abigail adan on sunday. two other american women expect today be released by now are still being held. israel for its part releasing 180 palestinian prisoners. cia director bill burns arrived today in doha qatar for a meeting with officials there including a source tells us his egyptian and israeli counter parts. another source familiar with the trips tells cnn the discussions are part of a push for broader hostage deal expanding beyond the current women and children. mea meantime troops are not in gaza israeli military operations continue in the west bank. tonight saw clashes near janine with fighting near a refugee camp. the idf felltelling it's conducting, quote, counter terrorism operations in the area but not pride providing any details expect saying it's expected to continue overnight. oren leiberman joins us now. what do know about the hostages released and their conditions? >> reporter: anderson, it plays out as it has over the past several nights over several hours. the hostages being transferred from hamas to the red cross and to the hospitals. and then the two thai nationals taken to shamir medical center. we do expect an update early tomorrow morning here from shiba medical center where most of those freed hostages have been taken. so far as we heard from the doctors and families, they've been generally speaking in good physical condition. malnutrition has been the biggest issue, but we don't have a specific update yet. it is worth passing along two specific updates. 4-year-old abigail, the only american to have been released so far is in good shape and released from the hospital two days after she was released from hamas captivity in gaza, so that's certainly good news on that front as now the mental health process begins in that recovery part. meanwhile alma who was taken into the hospital in critical condition suffering from a lack of medication and a lack of nutrition over her 50-odd days in captivity, she was unconscious for a period and on the breathing machine. doctors at the hospital where she was taken say she's breathing on her own now and is conscious, so that, too, is good news as we wait for the next hostage transfer to take place tomorrow. >> there were clashes reported between israel and hamas in northern gaza today. does that have any impact on the pause in the hostage negotiations? >> reporter: so far at this point it looks like the truce agreement is holding and should for at least another 24 hours. and we'll have to see if the effort to keep it going is successful or not. it's worth noting this was the most serious viegz of the truce agreement to this point. the idf says there were explosive devices planted near their troops and they fired back. regardless of which narrative there is correct and we're not on the ground in gaza and can't see it ourselves, it is clear it is the most serious violation of the truce, and yet it held. the qataris said at the very beginning if there was a violation of the truce and a pause in the fighting, they would immediately communicate with both sides to get them to try to walk back from the edge. it seems that has happened. the truce has not fallen apart. at least not yet i should say. and now we look forward to see how it plays tomorrow and if the diplomatic efforts are successful to extend to keep the humanitarian aid going in, to get more israeli hostages out and free more palestinian prisoners there. >> as difficult as it must be to know a loved one is held by hamas, it can't be any easier learning as some hostage families now have their loved ones are in other hands, held by other groups, splinters of groups of people we don't even know about. on october 7th -- they were taken. israel officials now say hamas is not holding them, another group is. i spoke with her back in october you may remember. >> i want my family back. please, i want my family back. i'm trying to be strong and stoic and speak clearly, but i'm devastated. i'm devastated. >> that was in october. at the time 12 days into her and her family's nightmare we spoke again earlier tonight. first of all, how are you and the family holding up? >> it's very emotional and stressful days. the little hope that we have gives us the strength to carry on and pleading and asking for the freed of our family. >> have you received any calls indicating believe it or not they're on the list of hostages to be released tomorrow? >> not yet, no. it's 12:00 at night here in israel, and the list hasn't arrived yet. >> as you know the idf said your family is not being held by hamas. do you know who's holding them? >> i think in english you say the popular front or the public front -- in hebrew you call them -- it's a sthmall organization. basically they don't -- they're under the ruling of hamas. hamas led them in 2007 after they took over the strip and israel left gaza, they allowed the people that sort of recognize themselves with that group to stay with the agreement they were sort of underneath the control of hamas. >> so i know the israeli government has said hamas is responsible, hamas is the one responsible for -- for all the hostages. you view it that way as well. >> we know there was a lot of chaos inside gaza when all the hostages arrived. it also was said on the news that they weren't expecting the success, you know, of kidnapping so many people. and the hostages moved around probably and moved through different hands. we know some of them were held by jihad as well in gaza. so this is the information that we have. but i can tell you that hamas is controlling all of those groups. hamas has the power and intelligence, and they know where everyone is. this is my belief. and it's not something the idf is telling me. it's just being in israel and being well-learned in our situation here in the middle east. >> was the news yesterday that they're being held by the popular front, this other group, was that the first confirmation you received they're alive, or previously you received confirmation? >> for me it's not a confirmation of them being alive. for me it was some sort of, you know, maybe an excuse or at way of hamas getting the leverage and getting another day of pause. and i don't know if they're alive. maybe one of the reasons that they didn't come back yet in this agreement says that all women and children -- well, 50 of them will be released is because they're afraid that, you know, the youngest hostage is no longer alive. that's a possibility as well, which breaks my heart, of course. >> this is what's so sick about what is happening for you and for all the families is that these groups -- i mean hamas, these other groups, nobody has given proof of life for all the hostages. so families are left not only with the pain of the likelihood that their loved one is being held captive in gaza, but no confirmation of that. so there's just this -- this zone of not knowing. you have no information. you have no idea. it's intolerable. it's sick. >> 53 days of not knowing, nothing about them, nothing. nothing. even the hostages who were released, no one saw them. nothing. i don't know if a nightmare is even the best way to describe the situation we are living. >> is there anything else you want people to know? >> that there's a 10 months almost 11 months old baby still being held captive for two months now in gaza. that his life is at risk. that no child should be pawned or held as leverage or, you know, as a strategic tool. and hopefully this will all be over soon. we can go back to somehow repairing our shattered -- completely shattered life here. >> thank you for your time. >> thank you, anderson. >> perspective now on where this truce might lead and what might happen if and when hostilities come to longer term end. joining us for that thomas freeman. he's also the best selling author of among other titles "from beirut to jerusalem." after this mass bombardment, week of fighting, hamas is still in control in gaza, still over hahand over hostages they've taken. what does that take you about the reality of israel of achieving its stated goal of destr destroying hamas? >> obviously it's incomplete, anderson. and i think some big decisions are going to have to be made by israel if the hostage exchange expires. it sounds like will burns, our cia director, and his colleagues in qatar, are really looking for a way to buy more time and get many more hostages released and returned for palestinians and in israeli prisons. and there's been a lot of talk, anderson, are you for the cease-fire or not for the cease-fire. i'm hoping in the next few days it morphs into different discussion. are you for the end of this, not just a cease-fire. you've got what almost 2 million, you know, palestinians in gaza basically uprooted in a humanitarian crisis. it's just unimaginable for me that israel will be able to restart this war, go after -- take care of those people in a humanitarian way. i think we need to be talking about maybe a conclusion. maybe israel says, look, here's a free pass for all the hamas leadership, go to turkey, go to qatar whoever wants to leave, turn in your weapons, return the hostages. we'll give the palestinian prisoners a release. i think we have to really get out of this cease-fire, no cease-fire and think about something that gets hamas leadership out there, puts in a new palestinian leadership and partnership with arab countries and gets reconstruction going, the world bank. i just cannot imagine this going on for more months. and i can't imagine the united states and president biden being able to tolerate that politically. >> why would hamas leadership agree to that and a lot of them are holed up in nice hotels in doha. and even the ones in gaza, i mean they're the ones who perpetrated this terror attack on october 7th. what's in it for them at that beyond their personal survival? >> yeah. what's in it for them is obviously the survival of so many people in gaza, so many palestinians who they claim to represent. we know they don't really care about them or they never would have started this war. >> isn't having civilians killed sort of part of their -- part of the plan? >> yeah, that may be. but i think that they're in a position now where they have visited so much destruction on their people for now so little, i think they have to in their own minds be thinking about how do we show something for this? if they can pull off a giant release of all 6,000, you know, palestinian prisoners in israeli jails for the hostages a kind of all for all at least they'd have something to show for that terrible destruction that they have invited on their population. so i have a feeling they have to be thinking about a lot of this. this cease-fire wouldn't have lasted this long, anderson, if all they were doing is just getting ready for the next round. who knows. maybe they are. i don't claim to have any particular insight, but just feels like the chemistry around this story is changing. and i think as we approach the end of this cease-fire and we contemplate a resumption of this war with the terrible human cost, with the uncertainty of victory for israel, i think there's going to be some fresh thinking here. i sure hope there will. >> i don't understand how israel goes nainto the south where hundreds of thousands of people have been told to go. i talked to someone weeks ago and they said, well, they can go towards the sea. there's just not a lot of places tuesday go. you've advocated in the past in columns israel has to pair action with gaza who seek peace in israel. have you seen any interest by israeli authorities in that? >> well, the current prime minister -- prime minister netanyahu has rejected the idea because his far right, the members of his coalition, the farctest right refuse to contemplate any cooperation with the palestinian authority. but i think this is going to come back very soon because if there is no palestinian leadership, a partnership in a transition in gaza, then you're talking about israel, a country of 7 million jews controlling 3 million palestinians in the west bank and 2 million in gaza. that's just unsustainable. and so i think you're going to see some fresh thinking on that as well. and it may have to be initiated by president biden. but when i think of what could happen next, anderson, the idea that israel would resume the full-scale war against hamas amidst two -- close to 2 million people already uprooted, i just can't see that happening for any length of time. and therefore i hope there'll be some real talk not just about cease-fire, no cease-fire, how do we end this in a way that produces a different government in gaza? because israel is not going to live next to hamas anymore. and the people of gaza shouldn't have to live under hamas anymore. >> tom freedman, thank you. appreciate it. next, a cnn exclusive. what a 9-year-old girl went through in captivity and what life ahead looks like for her now she's free finally. later, one of the most influential campaign decisions to back nikki haley for president and not the front runner, the former president. >> over the last five days people from some of the very youngest to oldest whose lives changed october 7th and whose future will certainly be filled with challenges impossible to even imagine. emilie han turned 9 in captivity. saturday she and her friends were released and she was released to her dad who thought she'd been killed. the new life just beginning for her and her dad. clarissa first spoke with him you may remember when she believed emilie had been murdered only to learn later his daughter was alive. >> all of a sudden the door opened up and she just ran. it was beautiful -- just like i imagined it, you know, running together. i squeezed. i probably squeezed too hard. >> reporter: it was a moment thomas han thought would never come, told his 9-year-old daughter emilie had been killed in the october 7th attacks, then she was believed to be held hostage in gaza. finally, reunited with her family after 50 days in captivity, free but visibly haunted by her ordeal. >> when she stepped back a little, i could see her -- her face was chiseled like mine was. before she left it was chubby, young kid face. the other and the most shocking, disturbing part of meeting her was she was just whispering. couldn't hear her. i had to put my ear on her lips like this close and say what did you say. >> she said i thought you were kidnapped? >> she thought i was in captivity. >> and what has she told you about what she's gone through? >> i thought she was in the tunnels, but she wasn't in the tunnels. they were actually fleeing from house to house. she said the box. so you have to say how long were you in the box. she said a year. and apart from the whispering that was like a punch in the gut. >> there's that one photograph right after your reunion, and you're holding her and there is this sort of seriousness to her facial expression. >> she's almost staring, isn't she? a little bit of a disconnect with everything going on around her. >> has she cried? >> oh, yeah. yeah. last night she cried until her face was red and blotchy. and she couldn't stop. she didn't want any comfort. i guess she's forgotten how to be comforted. i just had to wait until she come out of it by herself. and she knows how to do that. she's very determined little girl, very strong. i knew that her spirit would get her through it. >> there have been glimpses of the old emily, her first request to listen to beyonce and play with the family dog. but many moments of pain like when thomas was forced to break the news to her that his ex-wife had been killed. does emly understand what happened on october 7th? >> yeah. unfortunately she does. and had to tell her, you know, your second mom is dead, killed, shot. when we got to the hospital i said what should i do. they said you've got to tell her straight, it's the best way. okay. but, yeah, that was very hard because we told her, and her little eyes glazed up and she took a sharp breath. terrible thing to tell a child, but they recommend you have to close the book. it sounds cruel, but you have to stop their hope. you've got to stop that. it has to be final. she's dead. >> and so what is the next step now? how long do you stay here? how do you start a new life? >> the future is obviously get emily back to health, and we'll do that along the way. but the next thing along the way is we have to get all the children, obviously, all the women, all the men, all the hostages have to come back. they have to be brought back. >> clarissa joins us now from tel aviv. i mean what just a nightmare they've been through. did emily or his father talk about what the conditions were like for her in gaza? >> basically he doesn't really know the full picture yet because emily has struggled literally still to speak in terms of speak in whispers. her voice is getting stronger, but it's stale very faint. and i think she's frightened frankly to relive or think about or process what she's been through. and he said he's spoken to psychiatrists who say, listen, you have to wait, you have to let her do it in her own time. but certainly it's a different picture to what he expected. she was not being held underground in these tunnels. she was being held in mouses. she was moved from house to house as the fighting and bombardment would get near. one small mercy, anderson, she was held with her close friend hila, and hila's mother, rya, and she reportedly treated her like her own daughter. and the heart break two day before their sudden release all of a sudden inexplicably rya was separated from them that's an occupation to try to get her out because hila of course has been released but without her mother, anderson. >> it's just so sickening. and the other thing i keep coming back to is all these families who haven't gotten any word of their loved ones. it's not as if hamas and these other groups have put out a list of everybody they are holding, so families are just -- they have no idea really where their loved one is, if they're being held at all. >> reporter: they have no idea. they're in that sort of sickening holding pattern that thomas himself was in for while, and i think on the one hand they look at emily's case and they feel heartened because she is physically in reasonably good shape. she is not sick. she did not describe being abused. she said there were activities that they were able to do during the day like playing cards and drawing. they had boo to be activities that were very, very quiet activities. so on the one hand i think? of these other families draw strength with they see this and of course when they see the joy of the family being reunited, but there's also awareness not only their loved ones have not been released yet, but e