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in gaza to be released but also the release today of 39 palestinian detainees and prisoners from israeli prisons. that followed the same number being released yesterday. the video you're looking at there, that's the scene on the west bank in just last hour. a huge celebration, crowds gathering there to meet those palestinians coming home from those israeli prisons. cnn's kaitlan collins is in tel aviv with latest developments on this second day of hostage releases. >> reporter: alex, we're in the second day, and now we are hearing from israeli officials that they have received the list of the hostages who are expected to be released on the third day. we are still waiting to learn more about who is on that list, but tonight these are the 13 israeli hostages who were released today. eight children, five women in total. they range in age from 3 years old to 67 years old. the idf says that in addition to those hostages who were released, four thai nationals also being held hostage have been released. i want to bring in chief global affairs correspondent matthew chance. matthew, as we're seeing this list, if people are just tuning in and watching, this is a group of hostages that almost potentially were not released to as there was this real delay by hamas. what were their chief complaints, and why did they delay that release earlier? >> reporter: right. there was a moment earlier on tonight where there was a possibility whether there was going to be no releases at all. hamas issued a statement they delayed the lease for a couple of reasons -- the release for a couple of reasons. the primary reason they said they hadn't received sufficient relief aid across the border in trucks. you know, that had been agreed to. that apparently has been sorted out along with the other issue which is something to do the identities and the types of prisoner that had been released from israeli jails. the hamas basically accusing israel of violating the agreement in those two regards. but those are obstacles that have been overcome. it took a big diplomatic effort want the qataris, the egyptians, the united states, making massive efforts to overcome the obstacles, and it was successful because we're seeing the evidence of that now. the first of the israeli handles from the second group that were released and the foreign nationals, as well, released hostages. they're finding their way now toward hospitals. they're in israeli hands. they're finding their way toward hospitals in israel to be reunited with their families. >> reporter: what's next in this process? they are on their way to these hospitals. medical evaluations. i imagine israeli officials want to debrief them, to find out more about the conditions they're being held in. >> reporter: that's certainly the case. i expect that every single one of those handles is going to have, you know -- hodges is going to have, you know, intelligence that may help israel sort of work out perhaps where the rest of the hostages are or at least give them some intelligence of who was holding them captive, things like that. yes, i expect there's going to be debriefings for obviously just the adult members, adult people in those hostage releases. so that's something. in terms of the medical care, you know, one of the hostages tonight has already been taken to a hospital straight away as soon as she was kind of freed. the others will be evaluated. but it's the psychological evaluation, as well, let's not forget that. psychologists saying that it could be months before the real extent of the damage to these people who have been severely traumatized by their incarceration in gaza and the terrible events that led to that on october 7th it could be months before even their symptoms are identified. so this is going to be a long road. >> yeah. serious post traumatic stress disorder. now we're learning that there is this third group, the list has been turned over quite late, but it has been turned over to israeli officials who've could be released tomorrow. obviously we don't yet know who is on it. no americans have been released yet, something the white house had been anticipating. they would be in this group of 50 set to be released by monday night. >> reporter: yeah, they still could be in that group of 50. i mean, there is one possibility which is that hamas knows that american passportholders are valuable and perhaps want to keep those in reserve or hold them back until last moment. that's one possibility. of course, there's no evidence of that. it's something that was suggested to me yeller by an israeli official. so yes, that certainly was going on. we'll see how this develops. the fact is there is a list, a third list, and that in itself is a positive sign. again, there was this possibility this process would collapse. now at least even though it's late, the third list which gives us all hope that this process is going to continue despite the obstacles, despite the logistical problems, for a third day which is exactly what everybody wants. >> that's a good point. it does show they are at least anticipating releasing more hostages. matthew chance, thank you. we've been tracking every angle of the story of the hostages as they're making their way to hospitals in israel. clarissa ward is outside of the sheeba medical center in tel aviv. it's also just 3:00 a.m. -- after 3:00 a.m. local where we are now. a lot of activity, you know, that we have seen last night way earlier than this has been delayed given the delay and the release of these hostages. what are you seeing at the hospital right now? are officials anticipating that soon those hostages will be arriving? >> reporter: that's what they're telling us. i mean, about an hour ago there was a rumor going around that it would be with in minutes. then three, now 3:20. i think the reality is probably we're not getting a totally full and clear picture of when those hostages may be arriving. but certainly fair to say that there has been a lot of preparation for their arrival. you can see behind me quite a few security personnel. they actually put up these israeli flags to welcome the hostages back. if we just pan over, you can see this is where the ambulance will come in. the journalists have all been penned into an area where i'm standing, and the hostages themselves will be brought in -- i should say the new ly release hostages will be brought in behind the screen that we watched them erect over the past few hours. that screen obviously designed to afford them some degree of privacy because there is a very real understanding from the personnel here at this hospital and particularly from the psychologists and psychiatrists that they have been through an extraordinary ordeal. we know that at least seven of them are children. one is 18. 12 of the 13 israeli hostages are expected to be arriving here at this hospital. the administrator of the hospital told us they had been running drills for a month in preparation for this moment. they had gamed out multiple scenarios, and they wanted to ensure that they were at the highest level of preparedness. i think we have a photograph that we can show you now which shows what the room looks like inside that hospital where the hostages, the newly released hostages will be taken. you can see they've gone to great lengths to make it look not like a hospital, not clinical, not cold, not overwhelming, but more like a room with brightly colored covers and sort of a wash kit and toys on the bed. they say that that's very important in terms of trying to help particularly with the younger children to help them feel calmer, more at ease. those who were released with or were held with family members will be having larger family reunions here at the hospital. those who were held without family members such as 9-year-old emily hand who actually marked her 9th birthday yesterday in captivity, they met with their relatives at the border. and so they have been reunited. we did speak to thomas hand earlier, the father of emily hand. he is an irish citizen. he took their dog johnny with him to meet emily and greet her. he felt that that was an important first step in her recovery. but there's certainly a very real understanding and a sort of clear-eyed perspective on the future for these newly released hostages and the reality that they will be living with and dealing with and working on the scars of the trauma that they have experienced for some time to come. we spoke earlier, as well, i should add, with the staff at the schneider medical center where some of those hostages, freed hostages were brought yesterday. they said that they were in good physical condition, that they hoped that they would be able to go home either tomorrow -- i should say today now that it's 3:00 in the morning, or the next day. and people here and doctors here waiting to see what condition these hostages are brought in, though there's no indication at that stage that any of them are requiring any serious or pressing type of medical care. i think the main concern that people have is the trauma and the impact that that will have had particularly on the youngest hostages. >> yeah. remarkable to hear you say that those officials at the hospital have been basically practicing, preparing for what is happening right now for a month now, anticipating the arrival of these hostages. that they didn't even know would actually ever come, just speaks to how everyone in israel's been holding their breath basically waiting for this moment. we'll continue to check in as we wait for the arrival of those hostages at that hospital. joining me here live with more on what is to come, danny denone israel's former ambassador to the united nations, and a member of the knesset's foreign affairs and defense committee. thank you so much, ambassador, for being here. we just heard that israel has gotten the list, the third list of the next set of hostages. do you have any idea how many people -- how many hostages are on that list? >> i cannot comment on that. but with a very long night for us in israel after we saw the hostages coming back finally, we were not sure about what would happen tomorrow. very relieved to see the list coming in. we are hopeful that everything will go smoothly tomorrow and monday night they will be able to complete the release of 50 hostages. >> does it give you hope that you did get this third list of hostages, expected to be released, that hamas does intend to hand those over? >> we signed a deal with the devil. when you sign a deal with the devil, you don't expect much. so we do it day by day, and hour by hour, and we hope that we'll be able to get to the 50 hostages. unfortunately we saw today that babies came without their mother. that was not part of that agreement. so we are patient, but we expect that by the end of the period we agreed on which is monday night we will see the 50 hostages here in israel. that is an agreement we signed. >> it wasn't the agreement that children who were kidnapped with their mothers were supposed to be released with their mothers. >> absolutely. >> which we saw not happen with at least one of the hostages who was on that list tonight. what hamas was complaining about and what we heard hours ago, hours before we realized this was going to be delayed, they were saying israel was not complying with part of the agreement to release palestinian prisoners by seniors, by how long they had been in prison. is that part of what israel agreed to in this deal with the devil, as you call it? >> we are complying with all parts of the agreement. even if some parts need to be clarified, you speak with the negotiator. you don't block that agreement. even if you have issue, that's what we expected to happen. i think what they did was cynical because basically they told the red cross that it's happening, and in the last minute before the families actually saw their loved ones coming into israel, they said, no, we have a problem, we have an issue, let's talk about our demands. not all came into northern gaza, the list are not in the order we expected them to be. you don't stop the agreement because of those issues. >> they had basically come up to the moment of that exchange actually happening and that's when they halted it, you're saying? >> exactly. and that showed the intention. if that issue with the order of release of those terrorists we are releasing as part of the deal, they could have come to the qataris, egyptians, sent a message, clarified the issue. they're playing with us. they're good at terrorizing the israeli public. we know that. they should not be so happy about it because in two, three, four days we intend to engage again with the war efforts and will find all of those leaders who are playing today and terrorizing the israelis. >> it makes it sound like you don't think that there's going to be an extension to this temporary pause. >> so after what happened today, we are very skeptical about it. but the government decided that if they will be able to find more children and they will be able to release them we are willing to extend the pause. that's part of the agreement. and we will stand behind it. >> there's still no decision from the israeli government whether or not that extension is likely to happen? >> well, the decisions not in our hands. hamas will have to relocate more children in the gaza strip and announce to the negotiator whether they're extending that agreement or not. >> do you think they can do that? >> i know they do that. i don't know that they want to do that. >> part of the agreement prime minister opinion said to attend to the -- prime minister benjamin netanyahu said to attend to those, young men in there, grandparents, idf soldiers. has that happened yet? does israel know? >> for a fact it didn't happen. >> the red cross has not gone in? >> no. no, and not even close to that. they didn't send medicines or letters to the hostages we have in gaza. and that some of the hostages in medical conditions that they need medical supports. they need their medicines. elderly people that cannot survive without it, the red cross is quiet about it. we expect hamas to allow visitation of the red cross. that's a human request, part of an international law. >> we're about to be on the third day of this agreement. if the red cross has not gone in yet, i imagine unless there's an extension they would not go in after monday night if the fighting is going to resume then. is that -- >> when you look at the history with hamas and terrorist organization, they never allowed red cross visitation which is unfortunate. it's in the agreement, we expect them to do it, we expect the negotiators to enforce it. but as you mentioned, it's not moving to that direction. >> israel's been releasing palestinian prisoners as part of this agreement, 39 yesterday, 39 again today. i mentioned the others who are being held that are not women and children. we've spoken to parents of 21-year-old men who were at the nova music festival having fun with their friends. they're being held hostage, their parents believe. what kind of deal would israel have to be willing to make to get them home? how many palestinian prisoners do you think hamas would demand in order to get them home? >> we are committed to bring them back. either we're going to force hamas to release them or we're going to negotiate with them. and we are willing to pay a price. even today when you see the celebrations, the people released are criminals, terrorists. they were involved in terrorist activities. we released them back into their community. so we're taking the risks in order to bring back our hostages. we will do that also in the future. i cannot tell you about numbers, but we are willing to negotiate and pay a heavy price for that. if not, we have the strength and the stamina to continue with the military operation and to get to the hostages. >> some of those palestinian prisoners are being held without any charges. they hadn't had any trial. some on the list. on idf soldiers, how big of a price would israel have to pay to get those israeli soldiers who are being held, men and women, back to israel? >> they're being detained -- stabbed israelets, attacked israeliies. we're not holding -- israelis. we're not holding them. in the past we released a lot of people to bring back shalit. today we arrested people in gaza, arrested people in the last few weeks. so we have room to wait for those. >> there have been two war goals that i've heard prime minister netanyahu lay out explicitly. the first eradicate hamas. not diminish it, not demean it, eradicate hamas as it exists. she'd the other war goal is to bring every hostage home. can he do both of those? >> those are the goals of the world. if you will not be able to do that, we will fail the world. and eradication is very important. we compare hamas to i.s.i.s. to nazi germany. it took a long time to eradicate nazi ideas from germany. we intend to do the same. we intend to take out the leadership of hamas, to destroy their military capabilities, and basically to allow the people in gaza to have a new regime to prosper, to open a new future for themselves, and to bring some peace and quiet to israel. >> if they don't achieve both they will have failed. this third list of hostages, obviously i understand israel's not saying the names, we understand the sensitivity here. are any americans on that list of hostages set to be released tomorrow? >> we don't decide about the names. we don't decide about the nationality. we know that there are american babies still in hamas hands for almost 50 days. we expect them to be released. we will hope that in the next few days we will see them back home. >> you expect them to be released by monday night, the americans? >> yes. we cannot guarantee it, but we expect it to happen. >> reporter: >> as always, thank you for your time. >> thank you so much. >> of course we are waiting to see as israel has gotten that list of the third set of hostages that are slated to be released by hamas on day three of this temporary truce. we are covering all of this here as we are waiting for those hostages from good day two to make their way to hospitals tonight. our special live coverage of this latest release continues right after a quick break. tonight israel is also freeing around 40 palestinians who have been held in israeli jails. this is also part of its deal with hamas during this pause. cnn has more now from the checkpoint near ramallah in the occupied west bank. we've seen huge celebrations there tonight. what are you seeing? >> reporter: absolutely. the crowds have now left the area where we are outside the municipality office where we saw those crowds gathering earlier. family members have been waiting for hours throughout the day anxiously waiting to see if their loved ones were on the list of names to be released today. that took a lot longer than we saw actually on friday night. of course we have now seen the 39 palestinian detainees and prisoners released. many released, 33 of them were minors, children under the age of 18. we saw them being carried on people's shoulders up the street to the municipality office where they were surrounded by thousands of people who had gathered -- more than 1,000, rather, who had gathered to welcome them to celebrate their release from detention. important to note that the majority of those children had been released, were held under administrative detention, meaning no charges were laid against them, no ongoing legal process. we've been speaking to many of the families here, many have been waiting outside the municipality office even before find could out whether their -- finding out whether their loved ones were on the list. they were hoping today would bring positive news for them. some of them were indeed lucky enough to see their children released to

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