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you are live in the "cnn newsroom." i'm jim acosta in washington. good evening. today marks exactly one year until the 2024 election and a new set of polls from "the new york times" and siena college show that president biden has some work to do. according to these latest polls, former president trump is leading in four key swing states, including nevada, a state biden narrowly carried in the 2020 presidential election, and georgia as well, a state that was central to trump's efforts to overturn the election results. the polling shows registered voters favor trump when it comes to handling the economy, immigration, national security, and the israeli/palestinian conflict. this latest polling is especially striking as trump faces mounting legal troubles. tomorrow, he is expected to take the stand in a civil fraud trial for what's shaping up to be a high-stakes day of testimony that could determine the fate of his new york businesses. let's discuss that and more with former clinton white house press secretary, joe lockhart, and former republican congressman, charlie dent. joe, let me start with you. if you're in the biden white house, what's your reaction to these numbers right now? >> well, they cann't be happy with them, but it's also not time to panic. it's a year, if you look at where president obama was in 2011, he was in the same shape. there's a little bit of good news in these polls if you look at a generation democrat. he or she still beats donald trump. but biden is bearing the burden of the anxiety about the economy. the anxiety overseas, particularly in the middle east, as an incumbent should. and we have developed a two-decade, even longer tradition of incumbents a year out being in trouble, under a bunch of different circumstances. the last thing i would say is that the news of the world has shifted a fair amount of attention away from donald trump. i think any -- if republicans can make this election about president biden, it makes it very difficult. trump, i believe, will get the nomination, and i think trump is incapable of making it about anyone but himself, because he sees it only from himself. that will be an advantage, i think, for biden and the democrats. >> charlie, trump was a disaster for republicans in 2018, 2020, and last year's midterms. do we have any reason to believe that he wouldn't be again in 2024? >> well, i do think donald trump will be a very significant problem for republican candidates, in 2024, but based on this polling that i've seen, if i'm the democrats, can i not be very happy at all. in fact, i guess it's just one poll, but he seems to be slipping with hispanics, younger voters, muslims are also upset right now, african-american voters even, he's slipping there, too. so i think there are all sorts of problems here, now. one thing, too, that the poll points out, and other polls i've seen points out, is that most voters think that one of these candidates is too hold, and one is too crazy. and i think the ground is fertile right now for an independent centrist movement, or third party candidates. you already have rfk jr. running as an incumbent, cornel west. i think the no-labels people, a candidate, and i think that would actually help, a more centrist movement. this is all out there. this is a very fluid situation. biden is clearly a very weak candidate. and other polls have suggested that democrats put anybody else up there, those numbers would be much better. >> joe, what do you think of all of that? i did want to ask you about this notion that the democrats have been talking about, and maybe you alluded to this a little bit yourself, which is that folks like ronald reagan, bill clinton, barack obama, they've been in this kind of jam before. but they weren't up against donald trump. and the threat that he poses to american democracy. so the stakes are higher this time around. >> the stakes couldn't be higher. because we have one candidate who is denying the basic tenants of democracy. he's tried to overturn an election. so i think it will be very stark. i agree with charlie when he talks about third parties perhaps playing a big role. they always have when they get in. al gore would be president if it wasn't for ralph narrder. i don't agree they represent a center position. robert kennedy may be crazier than donald trump and may draw votes from donald trump. >> for that reason. >> but if a third party got in and they were able to get on the ballot, it does mix up the race. but where i do agree with charlie is the bad news in the poll is that the biden coalition has been really diminished, if you look over the numbers, particularly among non-whites. and that's where he's got to do the work. he's got to revive that coalition, and i think donald trump will help do that. if it will not necessarily be votes for the president or a vote of confidence in the president, but i think people will realize a danger of another term for donald trump. >> charlie, i wanted to ask you about this. tomorrow, ron desesantis is expected to get a huge endorsement from the republican governor of iowa, kim reynolds. what do you think? if a non-trump candidate was looking for a shot in the arm, this is a fairly significant one, is it not? >> i don't think it's going to make much of a difference at all, frankly. kim reynolds may be popular in iowa, but i don't know that her popularity will transfer nicely to ron desantis. it's maybe called a consolation prize for desantis, but i don't think it means anything. but i also wanted to clarify. i was not suggesting that rfk jr. cornel west were centrist ka candidates, they were not. i was saying that the no labels movement would likely put a centrist candidate up on the ballot. that would be their intent. to run ballot access, to someone could run a centrist ticket. that's what i was trying to explain that. >> and perhaps one of the reasons why ron desantis and whichever non-trump candidate gets a little bit of momentum, why it may not be enough. trump can just say what he wants out on the campaign trail and there's no accountability inside the republican party. last night during a speech in florida, he attempted to re-write history on a key campaign promise he made in 2016, one that i heard time and again. let's listen to this. >> for those people that talk about mexico, you know, i said, mexico is going to pay for a piece of the wall, they paid for much more than that. they gave us 28,000 soldiers, because there was no way legally they could pay for our wall. >> joe, it's extraordinary. i mean, i remember, we all remember donald trump saying that we're going to build a wall on the border and mexico is going to pay for it. now he's saying, they're paying for a piece of the wall. it's extraordinary, not just the level of dishonesty, but i suppose the confidence that he has that people will just buy anything that he says. >> is well, his people will buy anything that he says. that has been proven time and time again and his people represent a vast majority of the republican party right now. not a lot of sensible republicans, i think, like charlie, but the vast majority, if you look at the numbers. and i think the -- if you go back to the endorsement, i completely agree with charlie that it's not significant. what's going on in the republican primary right now is who can be that person who can challenge donald trump one on one? but how do they do that? they can't win. so a year out, the one thing we can be sure of is, we know who the candidates are going to be. you don't often have that, because i just don't see anything that can keep donald trump. in fact, his legal problems play into his central message that the system is rigged. that the system is rigged against him. and he will use that in his campaign the way he uses demago you know, the whole trump playbook. >> charlie, is there another piece of this as well, as to why none of these other republican candidates were ever able to pose much of a threat to donald trump. and it is that they've never really gone after him in any kind of measurable way. chris christie, i think, to some extent has, although i'm not sure he's really in a position to do much, in terms of winning the nomination. so you know, ron desantis, he has flirted with some tougher talk aimed at donald trump in recent days, saying he doesn't have the guts to show up at this debate that's coming up later on this week. i was talking to vivek ramaswamy, asking him about how donald trump has said that the january 6th prisoners, the folks that have gone to prison for what they have done on january 6th, that trump has called them hostages, and ramaswamy wouldn't even really disagree with that. he said he agreed with that sentiment. it is kind of extraordinary how you haven't seen any of these other contenders go after him in a big way. >> well, jim, i've been saying this for many months. the many acts of political malpractice committed by many of the republican presidential candidates has been striking and stunning, starting with the indictment of the former president, trump, during the stormy daniels hush payment matter. instead of criticizing, condemning trump for his conduct, they basically said he was a victim of a partisan d.a. and a witch hunt and deep state and all of that. and they basically reinforced trump's narrative, instead of taking him to ask for his conduct, whether it's criminal or not will be up to the courts. but as a political matter, these guys should have just been hammering him on that in every other indictment. and every other crazy thing that he has said. but they're not running for first place, they're running for second place. how much time are they spending, you know, trying to take down ramaswamy? he's not going anywhere. other than chris christie -- >> -- ramaswamy than on trump? >> -- to go after -- >> yeah. >> you have to take down the front candidate. that's just basic campaign politics that any candidate should understand. >> yeah, no question. all right, well, charlie dent, joe lockhart, great discussion, gentlemen. thanks very much for starting us off this hour. we appreciate it. good talking to you. in the meantime, the israel/gaza conflict has led to a frightening rise in acts of hate in the u.s. coming up next, a look at some of the cases against jews and and muslims s and d what's bein done to fifight it, ththat's ne. the israeli military is conducting what it calls a significant strike on gaza, flares and explosions could be seen tonight in the direction of gaza. the action comes as the israeli military said its troops reached the coast of gaza in an effort to encircle the reign from several directions. meanwhile, along israel's northern border with lebanon, the israeli defense forces chief said that the military was ready to shift into a, quote, offensive mode at any moment. and secretary of state tony blinken is now in turkey. it's his last top on a regional tour. there are thousands of miles from the israel/hamas war, but their lives are still being upended by racism and hate. both arabs and jews who attend stanford university are talking about incidents that target them. ever since october 7th, these incidents are on the rise. >> yeah, and students told me, they feel like this is escalating. the latest incident was a hit-and-run accident. the victim, an arab muslim student who was still in the hospital said he wasn't ready for an on-camera interview, but said he wanted to advocate for love, understanding, and inclusivity. other students told me they admire this sentiment, but nonetheless are very concerned. >> i've been feeling sad, i've been feeling anxious. aye been feeling worried. >> reporter: this is how fatah adear says he and others are feeling as palestinian americans, as muslims, and as students at stanford university. >> it's scary that this kind of hate can happen in a place where i'm supposed to feel at home. >> fear as a result of what he believes are hate crimes. the university's department of public safety now investigating five incidents since the onset of the israel/hamas war. four appear to have targeted arab students, while one was reported as anti-semitic vandalism. the most recent potential hate crime incident happening friday. the university says it was an parent hit-and-run crash involving an arab muslim student on campus. >> it's hard to fathom that that could even take place. and the problem is not only could it take place, but it's now a reality that we all have to live with. >> in a statement, the university is saying that stanford considers anti-arab and islam phobic acts to be abhorrent. the incident is now being investigated by the california highway patrol. the university also said the driver is reported to have made eye contact with the victim, accelerated, and struck the victim and then driven away while shouting "f you and your people" out the lowered window of the vehicle. >> if it's already so quickly turned into something of this magnitude is again scary. >> reporter: other incidents included a group of students being shoved, a student being spat on, and someone running over a tote bag, which contained a computer and other valuables. >> what's going on abroad shouldn't have an impact on the health and the lives of students on the campus in a country thousands of miles away. >> reporter: in the anti-semitic incident reported, a missousa was removed. in a statement, the school said this removal of a sacred religious symbol is deemed an act of intimidation targeting the jewish community. overall, groups representing students on both sides say they're concerned about these incidents and students say they worry about the future. >> we have to be constantly alert. we have to be constantly on edge. and it's exhausting, having to watch over your shoulder 24/7. >> and he also told me that arab students on campus are supporting each other, not just emotionally, but also just helping each other by walking each other to class, because they are scared. they say they are definitely taking extra precautions. in the meantime, the investigation for the hit-and-run continues. they are still searching for that suspect who is believed to have been driving a toyota foref forerunner. we'll have to wait for authorities to see what happens here, but students are extremely scared at the moment. >> skand camilla, we're seeing this at a number of universities across the country. how are college administrators handling this? >> it's not just stan ford. it's something we're seeing all over the country, each kschool addressing it differently, but trying to tell the students that they're there to help them, support them, and what they can do to stop these. stanford is making these incidents public for all of these students to see. and hopefully to help in terms of the investigations. because of course, they do want to hold people accountable for what's going on here, not just in terms of the arab students, but the jewish students, as well. this is something that's impacting all students in these campuses. >> absolutely. all right, camilla bernal. thank you very much. the counsel on american islamic relations says more than 750 incidents of anti-arab or anti-muslim bias have been reported across the country since october 7th. joining us now to talk about this, a spokesperson and maryland director for the organization known as care. zanib, we just saw camilla's piece a few moments ago, what is going on, especially on college campuses right now. i've never seen anything like it. it's extraordinary. >> it is. and definitely unprecedented. my organization has been putting in 18 to 20-hour work days. my team in the national office, just clocking along hours, responding to request for assistance from community members, students, employees, who are affected by these very tense political climate. and it's really not something we've seen to this degree before. >> and we all remember the senseless murder of little what d wadea, 6-year-old that was brutally stabbed to death by his family's landlord. how is his family doing? >> this is very traumatic. our chicago chapter of care is in touch with the mother and it's hard for her not to have any closure, to not attend the funeral of her son because she herself was in the hospital recovering, is something that will stay with her for a very long time. skp and unfortunately, there's a very real sense of fear and anxiety amongst our community members, that are witnessing the implications of the genocide unfielding in gaza here in our own backyards, our own places of employment, our own schools and institutions. >> you and i both remember what was going on in this country after 9/11, the level of islamophobia that we've saw back then. are we seeing something of a similar level right now, would you say? or is it worse? >> i would say it's actually worse. our organization has collected or received incidents, over 774 incidents between a period of october 7th to october 24th. this is 182%-fold increase of any given 16-day period in 2022. and according to the institute for other belonging by uc berkeley, over 85% of americans don't report hate crimes. so we believe that the actual number of these incidents is much higher. and it's very startling to us in this particular climate that community members don't feel supported or don't feel comfortable or confident, that if they report these incidents to law enforcement, that they will be investigated and handled with the kind of seriousness that they deserve. >> and the white house says they'll launch an initiative to try to counter some of this islamophobia around the country. is the white house doing enough? what needs to be done? >> typically this would be very welcome news. but it needs to be in partnership with the fact that many american muslim organizations are calling for an immediate cease-fire if gaza. the consistent destabilization is fueling the hate crimes and the sense that there's no sense of urgency to demand an immediate cease-fire, on the brutal assault on palestinians in gaza is something that detracts from the credibility of any kind of initiative that the white house might be unfolding. >> and they're talking about a humanitarian pause. does that not go far enough? >> it does not go far enough. we believe that we absolutely need an immediate cease-fire. the toll on the -- the humanitarian toll on the population in gaza has been devastating. a humanitarian pause would not be sufficient. we need to make sure that there's humanitarian aid going into some of the hardest-hit areas in gaza, but we need to make sure that the communities there are able to recover, the brute ongoing, incessant assault over the last few weeks that they've been dealing with. a vast majority of these victims are civilians. over 4,000 children have been murdered. about 10,000 people have been killed, that we know of. many people are buried under the rubble, that we don't know what the accurate number is. and president biden is saying he doesn't have confidence of the numbers provided, which is unacceptable. >> and i know that some of our viewers are right now watching this and saying, what about hamas? what is their responsibility in all of this? does some of the blame fall on hamas? >> look, we have 2.2 million people that live in gaza, about half of which are civilians. more than half of which are civilians. the vast majority of the of the 2.2 million population are civilians, about half of which are children. to justify the kind of aggression that the israeli military has waged in gaza, the kind of air strikes that are demolishing hospitals and houses of worship and refugee camps, it's unconscionable, right? and look, if you were to take out a school shooter, you wouldn't shoot up the entire school, you wouldn't bomb the entire school and kill every student within the school if you were trying to take out a

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