family members with whom we are with contact that they will be assigned specific departure dates. we have asked them to continue to monitor their email regularly over the next 24 to 72 hours for specific instructions about how to exit. >> it is 3:00 here in washington, d.c., we're going to begin this hour with cnn international diplomatic editor nic robertson, he is in sderot, israel. give us the latest on what the idf says happened today at the refugee camp. >> reporter: they said they had precise intelligence which allowed them to target a hamas terror cell that was hiding out in the jabalia refugee camp in the fallujah neighborhood and it was using that precise intelligence that they targeted them, eliminating them. they point out that hamas has -- has made a habit, if you will, intentionally hides behind civilians, hides in tunnels that are underneath and amongst the civilian housing and the idf also point out that they have been warning the citizens of northern gaza to move south, although many of those citizens say they don't know how, they don't know where it's safe to go. we know that the commander of the forces in northern gaza at the moment, the commander of idf forces said that they are in the -- at the gates of gaza and the defense minister describes some very intense urban conflict, but the second strike on the jabalia camp in two days precisely targeted with precise intelligence is what the idf is saying. >> all right. nic robertson for us in israel. thanks so much. let's go now to cairo, egypt, with cnn's melissa bell because she's been tracking those that were able to get out of gaza through the rafa crossing. melissa, tell us about them. >> reporter: boris, that news that a couple of americans are amongst those just out at the rafa crossing and now safely in egypt, extraordinary news. it is on top of the 361 foreign nationals that we understood had made it through the rafa crossing and to this side of the border and they include british, french, italian, saudi, jordanian nationals, specific nt dual nationality citizens that have been trapped in gaza ever since this war began. so that first group has now come out and that is amazing news. as you mentioned a moment ago, there will be many more that come. we understand all of them will come out and they will be told over the course of the coming days how that is to function. these have been incredibly complex negotiations between hamas, israel, the united states, qatar. what they do show us is that those talks, for all the difficulties involved, are functioning. and that is of course amazing news for the foreign nationals and their families that have been watching anxiously to see what was going to happen with regard to their ability to leave the gaza strip and, again, it has taken so long for this to happen, such difficult conditions, but that is a tremendous sigh of relief that they will be heaving tonight. but then there is also as part of this deal the first palestinians who have come through the rafa crossing, 81 of them came out today and have been taken to local hospitals or to the field hospital that's been set up nearby. what we are talking about here, jessica and boris, are the very most severely wounded. these are people who need immediate surgical intervention and what we understand is that there will be more to come, but, again, very difficult negotiations, very opaque negotiations. we really had no advanced warning of this until the rafa crossing was finally opened today to those able to come out. it's also by the way the only gate through which aid can get in and we've been hearing that 20 more aid trucks have managed to make their way into the palestinians that so desperately need that aid still. jessica? >> melissa bell from egypt, thank you so much. and we are joined now by idf international spokesperson lieutenant colonel jonathan conricus. great to have you here with us. thanks for making time. i want to start with that second idf air strike on jabalia today, idf says hamas terrorists were eliminated in that strike. can you tell us more specifically about who or what that strike was targeting? >> hi. thank you for having me again. listen, jabalia is a hamas stronghold. think of it not as a regular village or a part of gaza, think of it as an area which is totally -- which hamas has total control over, both aboveground and underground. think of it as a military compound that is full of hamas operatives and now add to that that we have our troops on the ground fighting those terrorists, aboveground and belowground, and then you can understand that it is a dynamic situation where we constantly are seeking the enemy and whenever we understand where the enemy is and how we can get to them, we attack them either from the ground or using aerial strikes. it's an ongoing battle in jabalia and in other locations. we are very committed to finding all of the hamas operatives that are hiding underground, beneath the civilians. we will get to them and we will dismantle their infrastructure in jabalia and elsewhere. >> and can you tell us any more specifically about what this -- who or what -- or who the second strike was targeting and then also this previous strike yesterday that the idf has said killed a senior hamas commander ibrahim biari. will be able to share more evidence about his killing? >> beyond the fact that he is dead and the deeds that he did when he was still alive, that he was a known terrorist, that he was vital in planning and executing the october 7 attack, that he had israeli blood on his hands going back from 2004, no. he is dead, we know that, at the very high level of certainty. knew he that hamas are claiming differently but hamas is a terrorist organization that lie, anytime they open their mouth. so i wouldn't lend them any credibility at all. together with biari, this commander and dozens of operatives also died in a vast tunnel complex that was underneath the ground there and we will -- you know, you're referring to a second strike. i think a more correct depiction of it would be that there's ongoing fighting. it's not, you know, quiet and then all of a sudden there is a strike. no, there is ongoing fighting because we are fighting an enemy that is embedded in each and every house, there's tunnels everywhere and it's an active combat zone. this is a hamas stronghold, it's not a refugee camp, this is a hamas stronghold where we are in there, we are fighting and we are doing that because we understand that in order to eradicate hamas and make sure that this never happens again, that october 7 never happens again, we understand that we have to go where hamas is and take them out. >> and do you plan at any point to share any more intel about -- you're explaining what you all believe is this hamas stronghold there at this refugee camp. do you intend to release any intel moving forward on that? >> we released intel yesterday, which had both an aerial map of the -- of other compounds, military compounds belonging to hamas in jabalia, both exit shafts of tunnels, training areas and places, different houses that look civilian, but aren't civilian, that are, in fact, hamas combat positions where they are firing anti-tank missiles and deploying troops. that was released already yesterday. perhaps a bit overshadowed by the event of the targeting of that hamas combatant commander. we have done it in the past and i'm sure that we will do it again, but the really important thing to understand here is that we're talking about a hamas compound. this is an area that they have fortified. it is full of hamas operatives above and below ground. that's why we're there and that's why we're fighting. >> and the idf spokesman, your colleague daniel hagari announced ground forces have broken through hamas's front lines in northern gaza. i want to ask you what this means for the 200 hostages still being held by hamas. this is how we got here, hamas did attack israel and take these hostages. what do you know about these 200 hostages and what does this newest information mean? >> yes, unfortunately sadly it's 240 hostages that are being held by hamas, israeli nationals and other nationalities, many of t them americans and by western countries. they are being held by hamas probably underground in gaza. we are hard at work collecting every piece of intelligence including new intelligence that is generated on the ground by the ground activity of our troops and just as we were able to rescue one hostage, private o ori megidish, she was rescued a few days ago, we are hard at work and very committed to getting all of our people back. hamas bears responsibility for this atrocity, just like all of the other atrocities that they did on october 7th. we hold them accountable. the best thing for them, if they want to save themselves, would be to hand over the hostages unconditionally, that would save a lot of lives. if that won't happen we will do it. >> lieutenant colonel jonathan conricus, thanks so much. >> thank you for having me. let's dig deeper on some of these angels with our panel. we have kimberly dozier and retired brigadier general peter zwack with us. i want to start with you, kim, because something that lieutenant colonel conricus said to me and it's the characterization of the jabalia refugee camp. it's described as a refugee camp, we've learned that somewhere around hundreds of civilians were either wounded or killed there in this first attack yesterday, perhaps many more in the second strike, but the lieutenant colonel, the idf spokesperson, he describes it as a hamas stronghold, as a legitimate military target. how do you see that? >> well, as u.s. intelligence will tell you, hamas is riddled throughout the gaza strip in civilian areas and they put their facilities, their headquarters, their weaponry underneath and next to civilian homes. in terms of the refugee camp description, a little bit about palestinian geography in those territories, the refugee camps were established decades ago so now if you see the pictures of the before and the after, it's a breeze block built neighborhood of standing houses. in terms of this particular strike, i've been trying to find out from israeli sources was this battle damage that you expected when this strike was approved and what they're trying to figure out is the tunnel network they were hitting, was it bigger than they expected? was it not very well supported such that once it got taken out the buildings above collapsed? was that more than they were anticipating in terms of civilian casualties? i haven't been able to get an answer, but, you know, the palestinian people, one of the most highly educated on the planet and one of the most savvy in terms of media, and you have the aid workers there, these images of everything that happens are being seen throughout the arab world, making people angry and that's what hamas surely planned all along. >> and, general, kind of piggybacking off of kim's comment just there, we know from reporting from our white house colleagues, our colleagues that cover the white house that there is intensifying concern within the biden administration that israel may begin to lose some support if these images of these civilians dying like what we've seen out of jabalia continue and are disseminated on social media and across the world. what do you make of that and as kim was just explaining, with hamas so intertwined with civilians there in gaza, what else can be done to minimize the death and destruction to civilians? s>> i think you've just hit, yo know, the fundamental question. hamas was already proven by their horrific actions on the 7th -- 7th of october will go to any measure to use the population around them for cover, for concealment, put their communications in their tunnels, and then -- and then with that hamstring any idf major action against it by going to the media and saying, look at this, and so it's hard. i think the israelis are, you know, urban terrain is the hardest, most complex, most brutal, it's fought over the backs of civilians and they're dealing with that right now. clearly a lot of reconnaissance going on. we don't see the ground fight and if the, you know, israeli special operations have been able to target some of these things -- no, hamas has proven, as other urban fighters, that you work with the population, you use them as a shield. i imagine a key aspect is how can the israelis separate the population who is being cynically used by hamas. this is hard, it's going to continue, it's going to be brutal and as many have said, israel does have an obligation and they speak to that to minimize where possible civilian casualties. hamas couldn't care in the least. >> kim, i wanted to ask about the deal that was struck to open the rafa crossing to allow certain palestinians and foreign nationals out of the enclave. obviously that was a deal that was brokered by qatar, which has relationships with the united states, with hamas. does that deal give you some hope that we're moving toward a closer resolution for the hostages that are being held by hamas? >> i don't think that someone has much to do with the other. there was a lot of pressure on opening that border to get supplies in and the israeli defense forces have reported today to the media that supplies are currently being stolen by hamas. so perhaps that's one of the reasons that they cooperated. from the israeli point of view they wanted to make sure that some sort of technology, improved way to check the trucks coming in was installed. i don't know if it was installed but i know that a major concern and something that was taking a long time checking all of those trucks was that they needed to be manually checked because the devices at that border crossing are very, very outdated and the israelis are worried about weapons getting smuggled in. >> kim dozier and general peter zwack, thank you both of your analysis there. we do have some breaking news we want to get to. the eldest son of donald trump, donald trump jr., is now testifying. he has taken the stand in the civil fraud trial against him, his family and their company. >> let's take you now to cnn national correspondent brynn gingras, she's joining us live from outside the courthouse in new york. brynn, what do you know right now? >> reporter: yeah, jessica and boris, he has been called to the stand before he actually went into the witness box he sat at the defendant's table, some pictures were taken, he made a joke that he should have worn makeup and then he was called to the witness stand as a defendant in this civil fraud trial. so far we're getting some updates from inside the courtroom from our colleagues, but one of the questions that was asked was basically what's his knowledge of generally accepted accounting principles and don jr. essentially said i leave that up to my accountants. now, this is sort of echoing what he gave in that deposition to the attorney general under oath last year, how he sort of distances himself from how all of those financial statements of condition are prepared, which is at the heart of this case. so we're continuing to follow the updates in the courtroom, but he is on the stand questioning has begun from the state's attorney general and then we will see if they finish up today and if we see cross-examination after that point, guys. >> and, brynn, on the question of another potential trump testifying, we just learned that ivanka trump, she is now appealing a ruling that ordered her to testify in this case. >> reporter: yeah, remember, they have been fighting to not -- trump's team, the defense team has been fighting to not let her take the stand and actually testifying in this case after an appeals judge said that she is no longer a defendant in this case. last week the judge ordered that she will have to testify, that she will actually have to physically be here to testify. she was set to do that after her father took the stand at the beginning of next week and it was slated for wednesday, but now that she has filed an appeal. now, remember, the judge allowed for some time for this appeal to actually happen. it was somewhat expected. now we will have to see if that sort of messes with the schedule if she actually does take the stand in the appeal she's essentially -- her lawyers are essentially saying she is not a defendant in this case, she wasn't living in new york at the time that this paperwork and all of these assessments were made center to this case. so it should not be fair. it's not fair in their terms that she would have to testify to this. so we will see what an appellate court has to say about that and if it then means that she will or will not take the stand. we will have to wait. >> we will wait and see. brynn gingras for us in new york. thanks so much. still ahead this afternoon the house is back in session and among the first items on its agenda, voting on a trio of resolutions that would admonish or rememove someme members.. details s on that nenext. it's a censure showdown on capitol hill today, house lawmakers will vote on two resolutions aimed at republican congresswoman marjorie taylor greene and democratic representative rashida tlaib who introduced the resolution -- or greene, rather, who introduced the resolution against talib is calling for the democrat to be censured for her remarks against israel and attending a pro-palestinian protest at the capitol last week, but greene's past remarks are also under scrutiny. she is facing a resolution for previous comments she made that were largely viewed as anti-semitic. for more on all of this let's go to cnn chief congress correspondent manu raju live on capitol hill. all of this is happening in addition to a resolution to expel congressman george santos. so you are looking at these three votes later on tonight, what's the state of play there on the hill? >> reporter: that's right. we expect this to happen all before the very significant issue about a funding for israel and what to do about funding for ukraine. that is essentially the next thing that the new speaker will have to worry about after getting through a series of votes, complicated votes tonight. on that first vote dealing with the censuring marjorie taylor greene, also censuring a democratic resolution to censure marjorie taylor greene and the same thing fora she had da talib. there is some expectation that those could fail given opposition from both parties. there is the effort to expel george santos from the house, something that has only happened five times in american history. the question is can they get the two-thirds majority in the house to do just that. that is a high bar given that number of republicans want to let the investigations play out, particularly among the house ethics committee before making a decision. one congressman who i spoke to, congressman max miller of ohio told me that he is in favor of expelling george santos from the house and is undecided on where he will come down on the two censure resolutions. >> i called for george santos's ex expulsion. it is a very personal issue that i have with him and what i can tell you is he broke the law and i would be voting yes. >> if we want to call balls and strikes, members of both parties have said anti-semitic remarks. they have. marjorie taylor greene has said anti-semitic remarks. rashida tlaib have said anti-semitic remarks. i'm going to call it out on both sides of the aisle. i'm sick of it. >> reporter: on the santos measure why it's unclear if it would pass they would need the support of 77 republicans on the floor and a number of them simply say that they want to see what happens with the house ethics committee which made an unusual announcement just yesterday saying that it would reveal its findings and its recommendation on what to do with george santos before november 17th. s