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Maine, where we just learned authorities recovered a cell phone belonging to the man suspected of killing 1 people h 18 people. Hes on the run, and this morning, were getting new information about the victims, so many beautiful lives lost. Im here in tel aviv, israel, where military Officials Say they are preparing for the next phase in the war against hamas. Israeli troops carrying out targeted raids in gaza for a second day in a row. And im kate bolduan in new york. Joe biden now has a new primary challenger today. Democratic Congressman Dean Phillips, a long shot for sure, but the most credible threat yet from inside the Democratic Party. This is cnn news central. Happening now, we just learned there will be a News Conference one hour from now here in lewiston for the very latest on the manhunt for Shooting Suspect robert card who is very much at large today. We learned that authorities recovered a cell phone and a note that were believed to be written by and belonging to card. Its been 38 hours since 18 people were murdered here in lewiston, maine, and new details about the suspect are emerging. As i said, that cell phone, that note, no details in the note describing a motive. Still, it could be important to the investigation. The manhunt spanning a couple of counties, many towns, shelter in place orders for 700 square miles. A huge area now with thousands and thousands of people told to safeguard their homes and safeguard their cars. We are learning more about the victims. New this morning, we just learned the identities of two more, bill young and his 14yearold son, aaron. They were killed. Lets get the latest on the shelter in place orders, and the manhunt. Lets go to omar jiminez, outside the Bowling Alley where the shootings began. Im outside the bar where the shooter moved and killed more people ten minutes later. Omar, what are you learning this morning . Reporter so this morning, this is day two. The sun is now up, and the suspect is nowhere to be found. Its created a bit of an unease here in the community. Its not like people have completely stopped their lives all together, but they also arent taking any unnecessary risks here. Those shelter in place orders cover this county and the county over, as well. When you talk about what we are looking forward to as far as the manhunt, we know that searches have resumed in the bowden area, not too far from here, but also where some of the suspects last known addresses were. It was around his house, the lastknown address last night, where fbi and other officials, as you hear fire trucks going by. But last night, it was there outside the suspects last home address that we saw fbi and other Law Enforcement over a loud speaker, with a spotlight on the house saying come out with your hands up. It ended up being he wasnt there. Police saying thats just more standard procedure when serving a warrant. But people in the neighborhood and beyond were concerned and interested if maybe thats where this would end. It did not, so we continue into this day. Schools remain closed, as well. And i know you mentioned a Press Conference coming up in about an hour. Everybody will be watching to see if they have any progress that will perhaps allay some of the fears that people have had in this community. And i mentioned the shelter in place orders have been out. Last night, people were listening to those. You drove through town. You couldnt find a place that was open. Places that usually would be packed on a thursday night were empty. Even at the hotel where we were staying when we first got here just to give you a sense of how people have been dealing with at night. We have to hold our i. D. S up against the glass door of the window, because one, he didnt know who we were showing up at that time. When he came to let us in, he still was hiding behind cover, obviously assuming we could have been people there with firearms. So it is not an easy time for a lot of the people here. It is a very stressful time. Theyre hoping at least in this Press Conference or at least sometime soon, they can get a good update from police that the suspect is in custody. Again, a little less than an hour will be our first update in nearly 24 hours. A lot of questions to ask about where things stand. Obviously, well bring you that News Conference when it happens live. Omar jiminez, thank you very much. Kate . Absolutely. Well, The Search For Robert card continues, we are also learning more about the lives lost wednesday night, including a father and his 14yearold son. According to reuters, their names are bill and aaron young. They were together at the Bowling Alley when this tragedy unfolded. A father and son. And then there is arthur arty stroud. He was there with his father. His dad left the restaurant just ten minutes before the shooting began. He says his son is survived by five children. Also at the restaurant was 39yearold payton ross. His brother tells cnn that payton loved being a dad more than anything else. His daughter, elle, has just turned 2 years old. 34yearold tommy conrad was a manager at the Bowling Alley. Hes also a father. Were told hes survived by his 9yearold daughter. So many parents and families torn apart by this senseless violence. I want to bring in jason carroll, who is learning more about some of the other victims. Its such a long list of people. Its so many beautiful lives. 18 victims, 18 lives, 18 different stories. Its becoming more and more clear as we speak to the Family Members that there were so many there who fought for their lives and tried to save the lives of other people. I want to talk about joseph walker, for example. He was a manager at that bar. He tried to stop the gunman with a butcher life, according to his father who spoke to cnn just within the past hour or so. He was able to talk about forgiveness and also his sons heroic actions. If this person was at the time in his right mind, i believe he would have been a loving person, just like we are. Something went wrong, and i just you cant run around this world hating people. If you do, these kind of things will happen more and more. It may be individual things that happen, but if you hate, and the hate drives you crazy, youre going to hurt people. Incredible. I also want to talk about another one of the victims. Tricia osleman, She Work Ed Par Time at the Bowling Alley. She ran the counter at one point and tried to call 911 when the shooter took her life. Her sister was also at the Bowling Alley at the same time. She actually managed to escape. Heres what she said about what happened. I saw someone get shot, and i heard boom, like blood splattered everywhere. And they just fell off their chair and they werent moving. We got a table to flip over and we got a booth in the corner that we used, and the whole time im thinking, were sitting ducks. Any minute, i was waiting to see his face come around that corner, and that was the most daunting part, because im laying there on my back, laying flat. Its just one painful story after another. I want to mention brian mcfarland. I spoke to his sister last night. She is deaf. Brian was deaf, as well. He was a big part of the Deaf Community. In fact, members of the local Deaf Community would come there, they would gather on wednesdays to participate in a Corn Hole Tournament for the Deaf Community. His life was taken last night. Also want to mention, one man says his father and his friend were both killed. And kate, his father says they were killed trying to protect women and children. He said the following, they made sure their wives and several Young Children were under cover when they charged the shooter. So theres so many stories of survival. So many stories of sadness. And whats most difficult at this point, so many difficult things for this family, but especially difficult, its hard for these families to mourn because the shooter is still out there. Thats 100 right. But what im also starting to hear is that people, theres so much theres so many Mass Shootings in america that people very chlearly know they have to stand up. They know if they dont stand up to the shooter, the police cant get there in time. Its the sense you get, they had to be courageous and fight for their lives, even if they knew they were going to lose them to protect people. Thank you so much, jason. Now back to john burman. John . So many beautiful lives lost. Just to hear jason describe it, wednesday night was known as Corn Hole Night for the Deaf Community. Just think about that. With me now is the mayor of lewiston. Thank you for joining us. We learned there will be a News Conference in less than an hour. Do you have any information about what we might learn then . I think were going to hear some updates. But beyond that, i cannot say anything. Updates on the manhunt . I believe so. Okay, major. Can you give usse an update on e current shelter in place order, which is still in effect here in lewiston and surrounding communities. What do you want residents to be doing today . Yes, youre right. The shelter in place order is still in effect, and i urge residents to shelter in place and stay at home as much as possible. Especially while the police are trying to find the suspect. Sorry, theres a little bit of a delay. Im sorry, mr. Mayor. I was just say thing is a delay. Today, driving around a little bit this morning, the businesses are still closed, but i will say there are a lot more cars on the roads, and people seem to be going about their business a little bit more. Is that something of concern to you . I understand that you know, i spoke to many residents. They have urgent needs. Parents need formula for their babies, so on and so forth. So i understand if someone needs to head out to get something that they need. Its been some 38 hours since this shooting took place, and the man hunt has been on and the shelter in place order has been in effect. How much longer do you think you can keep a shelter in place order in effect, even if the suspect is not located . Thats a great question. Im hoping that we have hundreds of Law Enforcement personnel here in maine looking for the suspect, and trying to apprehend him. I trust they will do so very soon. You know, mayor, i was struck, my colleagues were just talking about some of the beautiful lives lost here. Im just down the street from the bar, and wednesday night was known as Corn Hole Night for the Deaf Community. It seems ever more possible and likely that some of the victims were part of that community. Can you just talk to me about that group of people here in lewiston . Like many residents, i am certainly finding out about stories as they are being reported. You know, what i heard so far is not surprising, you know, people from lewiston are strong and determined and fearless. And i heard some of the courageous stories that, you know, have come out after the what happened on you know, the tragic and senseless violence on wednesday night. And i know that we will get through this. And mayor, i just want you to tell people about lewiston for a second here. Its such a rich community, historically, and now what do you want people to know about this place . Lewiston, i love lewiston. Its a beautiful city with beautiful people. We have great businesses here, and im excited about our future. Lewiston is a very safe city. I understand what happened last night is certainly you know, its surreal for it to be happening here. But lewiston is strong. Lewiston is we have grit and i have no doubt that we will be okay. All right. Mr. Mayor, before i let you go, it is safe to say this manhunt is still underway, yes . Absolutely. Okay. Mayor carl shelin, thank you for being with us. Were thinking about you and your community. Kate . Absolutely, he says that manhunt is underway. Theres a lot of moving parts around this man hunt today, including this as john was talking about, a cell phone recovered from the suspected killer. A note, as well. This new reporting coming in about the manhunt for robert card. Is this a lead now . More coming in, thats next. Were also live in tel aviv, as the idf says it conducted targeted raids inside gaza for a second night, and a hamas rocket just hit in southern tel aviv this morning. Sarara sidner isis on ththe grg. Wewell head t there for t the. Right now, Law Enforcement at every level, state, local, federal, are still searching for the gunman in what is now the worst Mass Shooting ever in maine. The hunt for robert card has left the state paralyzed. Schools and businesses closed down again today. Multiple communities under shelter in place orders for a second day. And we have new reporting coming in that investigators have recovered a cell phone that belonged to card, as well as a note that he left behind. Joining us now, cnn chief Law Enforcement Intelligence Analyst john miller, and casey jordan, criminalologist and behavioral analyst. John, the cell phone found a note left behind, but it does not explain a motive, according to evans sources. What does that add to this, help or complicate . Well, the fact that they recovered a cell phone, and the fact that there was a note are both indicators of preplanning. Now, most active shooters have a planning arc. This is just the statistics across the genre, but have a planning arc of 3 1 2 weeks. Placing a note means he knew what he was going to do before he got ready and went out that night to do it, leaving the phone behind tells us more. He knows thats a way that people can be tracked. If he left it behind and hes a planner, he maybe has a burner to account for that. And that raises the question, is his plan to go near or far, or is there Something Else that he has planned . Yeah. It raises more questions is what it does as part of this. There are now we were talking before the commercial break about the 18 people, were learning more about some of them. For small communities, there are 18 funerals that will now need to be planned, which is a real risk with the killer on the loose still. What are you hearing about this . Are they starting to talk about this . I mean, that is a comp complicating but necessary factor for the community. 18 funerals that are going to happen in fairly close together time frame, in a fair hi small community, means for police, if hes not in custody, it also means securing 18 funerals, which is going to be, you know, one more thing that they have to think about. Absolutely right. Some of johns reporting has been that there is a theory that theyre working with, a leading theory behind why the two locations were picked for these Mass Shootings potentially. They see links between these two locations are places that card and his longtime girlfriend, now exgirlfriend, had freqfrequent ed together. If that is a motivation behind choosing these locations, what does it say about the killer . Well, we dont think that was random. In fact, when this first happened, you know, i was conjecturing what sort of episode could have been the Tipping Point that caused this to happen . And the two big things that usually occur are the loss of a job or the breakup of a relationship. So when we learned that he had broken up with his longtime girlfriend recently, and that the two of them had frthey had frequented both locations, apparently she may have signed up for a tournament at the bar, perhaps wasnt there so he went to the Bowling Alley. This shows what hes doing this that moment of what i would guess is decompensation. Hes trying to destroy the bad memories of the broken relat relationship. We have seen this before. In 1990, a Revenge Lover Set a place on fire trying to kill his e exgirlfriend. The profile is fitting more of a american that is a pseudo commando. The note is the most telling thing at this point. We dont know the content, with you we know that its phrased as a suicide note. There was rambling and addressed to his son, including bank account information, which would indicate he doesnt plan to live through this manhunt. That makes him extremely dangerous if the police close in. Cnn is still working on confirming the details that you are talking about in that note. We need to learn more about that. We do have a Press Conference coming up at 10 00 a. M. I wanted to ask you, Mass Shootings, in terms of the gunman, often end with the gunman killing themselves or killed by police. What does this scenario, this guy fleeing, maybe, likely having planned an escape, what does this say to you about this person . Yes. That is true, kate. About 50 of these situations end in suicide or suicide by cop. Usually that happens, though, right at the scene, within hours of the mass murder, they have the suspect in their sights and they close in. And the person decides to take their own life. And sometimes they are taking a life. But the more that time passes, the more likely this perp is not going to be taken alive. No one is going to rest until they find some answers. Thank you both so much. 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