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Another Mass Shooting in the u. S. , at leoeast 22 people reported killed in maine and the suspected gunman is still at large. And also the u. N. Warns it will be forced to suspend Aid Operations in the coming hours if fuel isnt delivered. Well start in lewiston, maine where a Police Manhunt is under way for the Person Voflged in the massacre Wednesday Night. 22 are dead, up to 60 others wounded. Shootings took place at a Bowling Alley and a restaurant. Officials are telling residents to stay inside and lock their doors. Hundreds of officers are looking for this man, 40yearold robert card. Schools in the area are closed thursday as Police Search for the gunman. Card is considered Armed And Dangerous. If people see him, dont approach or make contact with him in any way. The shelterinplace order that currently stands remains. A vehicle which was a vehicle of interest in this incident was located in lisbon and were now also asking residents in lisbon to shelter in place. The attack began shortly after 6 00 p. M. Listen to how one witness described the moment the gunman opened fire. Just had started bowling. I dont know. Just came in and heard a loud pop. Thought it was a balloon. Had my back turned to the door. As soon as i saw it was not a balloon and he was holding a weapon, i just booked it down the lane and i slid basically into where the pins are and climbed up into the machine and was on top of the machines for about ten minutes until the cops got there. State and federal agencies are assisting with the investigation. And were learning more about the man. The Person Of Interest robert card. John miller reports. Robert card, about 40 years old, a former military person, still associated with the army reserves. Attached to a base up in sacko, maine. Were told he recently lost his job at a recycling center. This is one of those things that could have been a stressor that had to the problems he may have already been experiencing. Law enforcement sources also say he complained that he heard voices that there was a threat to shoot up the Military Base where he had been attached. And he spent two weeks being evaluated in maine and then medically cleared and released. More recently it appears that he lost his job. So he has Tactical Training and has Mental Health issues and allegedly snapped tonight and put his experience and his training to work in a terrible way. Lets bring in our reporter in lisbon not far from where they found the vehicle. And there is a lockdown in place. Reporter yeah, good morning. I wish i was joining you guys on better circumstances. But here we are in lisbon falls about 20 minutes from lewiston where the shootings took place. And police are still searching for the Person Of Interest, robert card, who you just heard about there. And you heard about the Police Commissioner earlier talk about them finding his vehicle here in lisbon which is about ten minutes up the road from where we are in lisbon falls. There was a very Large Police Presence in lisbon. They had a helicopter circling a farm and it seemed like maybe that is where they were keying their interests into try to find card. They moved their Search Efforts down the road here like i said about ten minutes down the road and they have been keying in on Search Efforts in this area. Behind me is the high school, this is where a lot of Law Enforcement officials are posting up this morning. Weve seen them in the gymnasium, you can see through the windows it seems like they are having some find of debriefing, some type of team gathering, maybe strategizing a plan for when they do Encounter Card in this area if they do. But it seems like robert card is still very much at large here in maine this morning. Was robert card known to authorities . Reporter what did you say, bianca . I was asking if robert card was known to authorities. Reporter i dont have a ton of information about robert card. We have a whole team working on this as you can imagine. And i think that there has been some reports, some past incidents where hes had some runins with the law, but he has a military background, he has been known to be a person that has guns. And he has also been known to be a person that has some type of Mental Health history. And that is what were seeing come out now and kind of unfold as were learning more about the situation. So i guess to answer your question, i would say yes, he has been somebody that has been known to Law Enforcement officials here in the state. All right. Thank you for bringing us uptodate. Lets bring in steve moore, a Law Enforcement contributor and retired supervisory agent for the fbi to discuss this further. This is such a tragic recurrence that we keep hearing from the United States. In this case some hallmark, for example somebody with a military background, but this makes this active shooter if indeed robert card is the perpetrator a primarily dangerous one because he has the skills and resources that might make it harder for police to find him. It makes it expo tnentially harder. And also to apprehend him when they do find him. The indications are that he may have had the military training. From what ive seen just in the quick photographs that weve seen of him, the way he holds the rifle, the way he wakes, the way he is walking One Direction and addressing a target or looking for a target 30 degrees off the direction he is walking, these are all indicators of very high tactical prowess. That is terrifying for the officers going out looking for him at night. And the problem is you might find him and then what . Youve got somebody who is probably more competent with a weapon in the woods than any of the policemen are. So you have to decide how you are going to look for him and have a plan for once you find him. What does it mean Person Of Interest, that phrase, and why arent they using something more severe sounding as it were . Person of interest has become a term of art that has more legal standing than it has fact all standing. It is a way of saying they are a suspect without saying the person is a suspect. It is a waya suspect without saying the person is a suspect. Reason is in different courts and certainly in the federal system, calling somebody a suspect attaches to it many different legal protections. For instance, if im just talking to somebody as a Person Of Interest, i can ask them questions, but if they are a suspect, i cannot ask them questions without offering them a lawyer and things like that. It also has to do with possible discovery later on. Or indicate, you know, the Defense Attorneys if this person survives and goes to trial, would say, well, he was a suspect before you had all the evidence in, so that is you had pretty much decided that he was guilty before you ever set eyes on him. So these are things that have legal standing but really no he is the suspect. You were outlining the discrepancy potentially between this Person Of Interest currently, robert card, and the local police who may well have a lesser level of experience and Tactical Experience compared to him. Is it likely or do we know if the fbi ob other authorities have been sent into support this given those facts . He probably has more experience than the average a little on the street. But yes the fbi has some very robust tanctical teams. I was on the Los Angeles Team and we trained to search for heavily armed people in the woods and did so. That is part of what the federal system can bring. Additionally, i would say the counties in maine probably also have some very robust tactical teams. It is not that the Police Officers are not well trained or not skilled, this is a person trained to kill you in many different ways and to do so in a very tactically competent way setting up ambushes, setting up situations where there is really no possibility of Law Enforcement winning. And Police Officers are generally trained for urban environments. Streets, houses, things like that. I believe this person is more likely than not in the woods right now, a place where his skills give him the advantage. The longer this goes on, potentially the further he could have moved. Primarily they will speak to the counterparts in canada as well . Yeah, canada has some really excellent Law Enforcement agencies, whether it be the rcmp, their border people. Ive dealt with them before and they are very, very sharp. And they will get a lot of help from them. I think right now you are absolutely right, the area that you are the area where you are searching for him increases every minute the person is out of custody. You have to assume that they are at least on foot. Could have a vehicle. If they have a vehicle, within 24 hours your area of search is immense. It is hard to calculate. But i believe from what ive been hearing on their radio feeds and things like that, they are setting unfairly effective road blocks, things where a person would not be able to cross from one side of the forest to another across a road, couldnt drive out of the area. This is not a guarantee obviously that they have him bottled up, but it makes it more likely that they have kept him contained. We just wont know until hes found. Steve moore, thank you for your analysis. Appreciate your time on that. A real worry, isnt it. Terrifying. A short time ago a message was posted to facebook from the restaurant where one of the shootings took place and the message reads my heart is crushed, im at a loss for words. In a split sebtsd your life gets turned upside down for no good reason. How can we make sense of any of this. Sending out prayers to everyone. Stay with cnn for the very latest on this Mass Shooting in maine throughout the hour. Well bring you any new updates as we get them. Also ahead, a new raid against hamas. Well have details on a critical shortage of supplies as well including fuel in gaza. And later on, former President Trump gets in trouble with the new york court after talking to reporters outside his fraud trial. Well have a report on what that will cost him. Welcome back. Well have the latest from gaza in a moment. First an update on Wednesday Nights deadly Mass Shootings in lewis ton, maine. Local police have identified robert card as a Person Of Interest after at least 22 were killed and dozens others injured. His vehicle was found in the near bye town of lisbon. And my first reaction was a lot of anger that it was happening in the community. Bye. And my first reaction was a lot of anger that it was happening in the community. Mainers are much better than this. Youve had these interviews with all other people in the country before in a Mass Shooting and you just cant believe that it will happen in your hometown and here we are. I got helicopters flying over my house with search lights. It is unreal. We have a view of main street, so i just saw police car after police car after Police Car Flying By and then ambulances going to the hospital. Card is described as an expert Firearms Instructor and u. S. Army reservist. He is considered Armed And Dangerous and residents are being urged to shelter in place. And now we want to turn the focus to israels war against hamas. Israeli military says it has conducted a targeted raid on Northern Gaza with tanks. An Army Spokesman says it was large but limited in scope and meant to create better conditions for ground operations. It released these images of the raid. The army said it killed a number who were planning to conduct attacks. And the israeli Prime Minister said preparations are under Guy A Ground Incursion but wouldnt reveal any details. And u. N. Agency warns that operations could soon be suspended due to a lack of fuel. Salma abdelaziz has a closer look. A warning that her piece contains images you may find disturbing. Reporter aid slowly trickling in, but families desperate say they are getting bars of soap. The socalled aid provides nothing. Were dying a slow death, this man says. You dont hear the peoples screams at night when they fight over a piece of bread. Not even water to drink. So far the total amount of aid delivered is less than 1 of what the enclave would receive on a daily basis prior to this conflict. And a crucial life line is missing. Fuel. Without it, the main u. N. Agency on the ground says it will be forced to halt operations. The International Community is begging for help. We are appealing, pleading, we are on our knees asking for the sustained scaled unprotected humanitarian operation. Reporter israels reply . Ask hamas for fuel. Translator fuel will not enter the gaza strip. Hamas uses it for its destruction. Fuel should be taken back from hamas and given to the hospitals. Reporter and they had previously denied the claims of fuel looting. And as it intensifies with more than 200 hostages still being held by hamas, the Fuel Shortage is already costing lives doctors warn. At least six hospitals have shut down due to a lack of fuel and hundreds of patients from premature babies to the many wounded in icu are at risk. If the hospital is not provided with the necessary fuel for the generators, we are issuing a Death Sentence this doctor says. The execution is in the hands of the free world. Everyone is guilty. Water pumps will soon stop working too making it even more difficult to get clean drinking water. Bakeries are closing, Aid Deliveries are more difficult. And more than 2 Million People, half of them children, already under bombardment and under siege could face starvation. The clock is ticking. Salma abdelaziz, cnn, london. For more on the desperate humanitarian situation in gaza, we are joined by a doctor who works in pediatric Intensive Care with Doctors Without Borders and is joining us from amman in jordan. Thank you so much for joining us. You are really up against it, arent you, in gaza. I mean, how much longer can your staff keep working . Just to clarify, im not speaking on behalf of Doctors Without Borders right now. Ive been going to the gaza strip for over ten years now to teach. And ive been in communication with many of the doctors that ive trained with in the past. Ive been in communication with colleagues who work in the nongovernmental space. And i want to echo the words that were very resounding words of oxfam. Over a week ago now when they said that this is the worst humanitarian crisis that they have seen in their history, that is almost 80 years of working in the humanitarian field, i clearly have not been in that field as long, but i can tell you this is certainly the worst humanitarian catastrophe ive witnessed in my lifetime. This is a population that has been living under siege for 16 years. A population that is already suffocated and struggling to access basic needs of food, clean water, medical supplies and health care. And the implications of the current intense bombardment, displacements, complete cutoff of everything that is indispensable for life including water, food, medicines and as you mentioned right now fuel, it is catastrophic for the population. Two days ago Ministry Of Health declared complete chance of the Health Care System in gaza. One third of the hospitals are already not functioning as a result of direct damage from airstrikes, as a result of the fact of Tens Of Thousands that are now seeking shelter in these hospitals and the lack of fuel and other supplies. And the remainder are functioning at less than bare minimum capacity because of the volume of injuries and lack of supplies and fuel. So, i mean, i heard in your report earlier one of the humanitarian workers that was interviewed said that were on our knees begging. The global silence is deafening. And the Health Care Workers are exhausted. They are working very long hours under unimaginable difficult cond conditions. We know colleagues ourselves that have been killed, their Family Members have been killed, and even a couple while on duty and they had to hear that news and then continue working. These Health Care Workers, i want to really commend them, but i also want to emphasize that im a Critical Care doctor. I have been trained to take care of the sickest patients. And i dont think the solution to this is more doctors or more aid. The solution to this is a ceas

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