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story for so long. i cannot imagine what her mom, her family has been thinking no. they suspected for a very long time. it is just unbelievable, abby. thank you. >> closure for them. >> what kind of closure. unbelievable. we will see you here tomorrow. well there is new video of the moment before the deadly explosion at a hospital in gaza. president biden is about to make a significant oval office address. what is next? tonight i'm laura coates live. president biden spent about seven hours in the israeli voice on, today and tomorrow he will formally address the nation from the oval office. now we have no idea right now what he will say, but it is hollow ground for what we call it the leader of the free world. presidents give speeches all the time, of course you see 1000 of them. but they don't often from the oval office. in fact, it is increasingly rare. -- actually here from the oval office, here is the gravitas involved. the decision to send troops to little rock to enforce school desegregation, the cuban missile crisis, the space shuttle challenger disaster, the 9/11 attacks, the iraq war, the coronavirus outbreak. now we expect it to be about two simultaneous wars. the u.s. response to hamas's attack against israel, and russia's war in ukraine. as for the latest devastation on the ground and gaza, the blast at the hospital, will president biden did not wait until he returned to the oval office to address that. no, he spoke to the press, and on camera no less, from on board air force one. >> i don't things like not, unless -- faith in the source in which i have gotten from people at the defense department who i respect the intelligence community that i respect. it is highly improbable that israel -- >> and there is new video tonight that shows a rocket fired from gaza exploding in-flight above gaza city. now the israeli defense forces point to the video as evidence that israel was not responsible for the explosion of the hospital. i'm not going to pretend to be an expert in analyzing rockets, or what happened to them, but i have experts here to unpack all of it in just a moment. there are many people that have already shown their conclusions about this entire war, and all that has followed, and perhaps will come. you have protests that are spreading, and only here in this country, but around the world. in fact, capitol police today arrested some 300 protesters from jewish -- for peace at the camp. as protesters flooded the streets in american cities, and across the middle east. now the history of america, certainly understands the value of peaceful protest. of course, speaking truth to power. what i have to emphasize the word truth. in fact, not misinformation, not propaganda. of course the fog of war makes that very difficult at times to be discerning. i can't do it with a soundbite, nor will i try to do so. we have to have real conversations with depth and context. we will go there tonight, even when especially because it is uncomfortable. i will be joined by a rabbi and a mom sitting here together for the honest discussion we need. that is coming up later this hour. here with me tonight, two experts who can help us answer some of these very many questions. cnn's jerusalem correspondent hadas gold, and colonel cedric leighton who spent 26 years as an intelligence officer in the u.s. air force. i want to get right away to what we are learning, still learning about the explosion at the hospital in gaza. cnn chief national security correspondent alex marquardt has been analyzing the video. alex, tell us all about it. >> laura, the explosion at the hospital rocked northern gaza. it lit up the night sky. you can see it in this video. cnn has geolocated that blast site to the hospital. then we also have this other angle from al jazeera appearing to show, according to an analysis by cnn, a rocket fired from inside gaza. it then explodes in the air and seconds later another blast is seen at the baptist hospital. now we have not determined definitively that the rocket is the cause of that explosion. but in tel aviv today, the president, he said u.s. intelligence matches israel's version of what happened. take a listen. >> i was outraged and saddened by the -- in the hospital in gaza. based on the information we have seen today it appears the result of an errant rocket fired by a terrorist group in gaza. >> now the u.s. has not named the group, but israel says it is palestinian islamic jihad which is allied with hamas, and also linked with iran. this american assessment which look him listen 24 hours after the deadly strike was based on what the white house now says is quote, intelligence missile activity, and open source video and images of the incident. the statement goes on to say that, some palestinian militants in gaza themselves believe that this strike was in fact carried out by islamic jihad. mora? >> alex marquardt, a lot to unpack, thank you so much. we want to bring in israeli government spokesman -- he is here now. thank you for being here today. we are going through a lot of this. the u.s. review is finding that israel is not responsible for that deadly hospital blast. that is not coming down the, region is it? you have neighboring countries who don't believe it. there's large-scale protests. so where does that leave israel now going forward? >> >> you are right, many people are not buying the overwhelming evidence that shows it is a palestinian islamic jihad missile fired. unfortunate because much of the international media was very quick why headlines, seeing 500 people killed in hospital in israeli airstrike, palestinian officials say, before there was any evidence. now when those reports ran, the only evidence was the claim that hamas -- genocidal terror organization, that perpetrated the october 7th massacre without a shred of evidence. now it took the israeli army a few hours to conduct its original investigation, that is exactly what you would expect from a professional army of a democratic state. as i discussed with your correspondents, now the overwhelming evidence now points in that direction. it isn't shut case now, that it was rockets fired from inside the gaza strip. palestinian islamic jihad. the fire we are seeing there from the propellant, the supposed fuel rocket all the way into israel, in fact exploding in the hospital bombing. >> in fact, we are going to go there and unpack greater and greater. it is important to do so. many of the reasons you have just said. people have john conclusions, and because of the really impact of all of that has taken place, the weight of it. in addition to, this president biden was telling reporters that israel will allow aid into gaza. he was blonde with israeli leaders on the need to help refugees. can you confirm that israel's on board with what president biden is saying? >> indeed. israel has no objection to humanitarian aid between the people of gaza and egypt rafah border crossing. we have just one condition, that humanitarian aid not reach hamas, the terror organization that perpetrated the atrocities of the october 7th massacre, that is our right under international law to insist that humanitarian aid donated by the international community not reach the military regime that is currently conducting war of aggression against us, just as hamas a few days ago -- from the united nations, the u.n. in fact admitting in a tweet, hamas had come and taken medicine and fuel away from stocks, enough fuel to power causes desalination plants for six days. that was stolen by hamas from united nations stockpiles. now as for the border crossings with israel, our position is clear. we will not allow our border crossings, the symporter crossings that have been attacked by people but should under fired from rockets to be used to deliver trade and aid into the gaza strip as long as there were 200 hostages are inside the gaza strip. we have 200 people from babies to elderly people who are being held brutally hostage by palestinian islamic jihad, and hamas without basic conditions, without access to the red cross, the immediate and unconditional, return and we hope that hamas will do the basic humanitarian, they will -- atrocities of october 7th, when they beheaded people anti-children up, and they have no expectation of basically military conditions from hamas. that is -- they release the hostages, in the meanwhile humanitarian aid can come from egypt. >> certainly your concerns are clear and evident as the justification for what you have just stated. how do you intend to enforce and ensure that what you are seeing comes with humanitarian aid will be heated? will you not allow people to go through until you have certain conditions that are tangibly really to you? or is there something short of that? >> you ask excellent questions about how the international community is supposed to ensure that its taxpayer dollars not reach the bloodthirsty terrorist who perpetrated the october 7th massacre. i remember after the 2014 war operation -- there was a mechanism stepped up by the united nations over the gaza reconstruction mechanism. i was involved in working on it as a young soldier myself, that was supposed to make sure that aid reached people of gaza to rebuild, not reach hamas. what we are seeing now is the result of many years in which concrete supposed to people's homes have diverted away to building hamas bunkers in shelters and pipeline supposed to be laid down -- what it ended up being taken and converted into rockets and what comes next? we are going to expect the international community to insist on a very strict safeguards to make sure the aid that is being donated move people around the world for humanitarian agencies through foreign governments not reach the military terror machine there on the 7th of october murdered 1400 of our people, injured 4000, and took 200 of them hostage in the basic humanitarian conditions in the gaza strip. >> thank you so much for joining us. we will unpack this further. thank you. here with me now, cnn's hadas gold and colonel cedric leighton. in hearing what he had to say about the conditions of being in compliance or going along with president biden has said, the conditions about hostages being released, the idea of how to ensure that the aid is not going to be essentially taken and siphoned off by hamas. is it realistic to think that could actually be a condition that could be met before it gets there? >> well i think it is possible, but there is no peacekeeping mechanism, there are no troops on the ground to keep anybody away from these stores. any mechanism to prevent hamas from going after these things. so it is a bit touchy and i think because there are no mechanisms of enforcement, i think it will be a bit of a problem, laura. >> you mentioned the international community, obviously he seem to be vigilant somerset as well as, well if their collective way to get this done? >> i think the only mechanism right now would be the united nations who does have a presence there. it will be really difficult to do that in a time of war. i don't know how you can actually do these checks in the correct way. now egypt could do on their, and but then there is a concern of where this aid will go to. now in israel's mind, they are doing this operation to completely eliminate hamas. so in a way, if they can go in and eliminate hamas the way they think they need to do so, then the aid was those centrally have nowhere to go to be administered by hamas if they no longer, exist if this is successful. >> i want to talk about this new video, there's been a lot of courses from the media about the headlines that initially came out about whether and who was responsible for the attack on the hospital. whether it was an arab, rocket or is really a strike, you saw the video tonight colonel leighton. cnn also analyzed saying the rocket was fired from gaza appearing to explode in the air moments before the hospital explosion. now obviously cnn has not made its own independent assessment of this intelligence. but what is next in terms of how to look at this? and how you see it? >> yes, laura. the key thing is, what kind of explosion happened? and where did it occur? so in the video we do see an explosion occurring over the hospital over the general area of the hospital and that explosion is consistent with a rocket exploding in-flight, in midflight. that very fact lancelot of credence to the israeli position on this. >> because there was not enough destruction to qualify for an above air force you think? >> that is part of, exactly. another question that hasn't been answered yet, is where we're israeli aircraft in that moment and time? so if you know, the flight path of israeli aircraft at that particular moment in time, was it possible for an israeli aircraft to have fired a missile at the hospital from the position that that aircraft was in? that specific moment in time? nobody has answered that specific question yet to my knowledge. however, everything we see in the video, all of the other evidence including the fact that there is no huge crater anywhere near the hospital, that indicates it was not a munition that was fired from an aircraft. >> that is important, i want to president biden is going to adjust that in his address tomorrow. obviously the nuance you are talking about, details you don't often hear from the president of the united states about issues such as this. what do you expect to hear? >> i think he will have to adjust, it just because of what he, said what so much of the world's are in those first few, hours those headlines. if you're just an average person scrolling through the headlines, you see that, you say okay, they are to blame. then your hearing the president say that the america needs to support israel in this war against hamas. so he needs to bridge that gap, explaining again, once again why meghan should care about something that is happening thousands of miles away. also, we do expect him to make the case for a huge aid package. now this aid package will not just be for israel, it will be for ukraine, for the war for other elements -- are the issues that america cares about. he is going to be making a big ask from the american people. i think there's a lot of concern also, from americans, that there will be americans involved. they know there is carrier ships of the coast, marines potentially in route, so we will potentially hear from him about whether americans should be concerned that once again they will be getting entangled into a foreign war that is not necessarily on their soil. we also think we will hear from him about the, aid and the humanitarian crisis that people are seeing on their screens more and more, and trying to explain what america is doing enough support of israel, and why it is so important in this moment. also keep in mind for israel, need this aid, because not only are they fighting hamas, they have issues on the northern border with hezbollah, they need to get ready for that. also, those iron domes, those are very expensive. every time they are launched, that is tens of thousands of dollars for a single interrupt. think about how many of those intercepts have now been launched. >> that's incredible to think. to overwhelm the system. >> because they know when they did that, they made it very clear. that their intent was to overwhelm the defenses and do it in a way. that would in essence bankrupt israel. and if they kept up with this activity. have a lot of rockets. probably a lot more than the intelligence has assessed in their possession. that is one of the things that these countries where these entities do. they try to overwhelm defenses that have been established over a long period of time. and that is going to be a key factor when you look at it from a fiscal legal standpoint and a military standpoint. >> ten times more than what hamas. so there is a preparation element to this is. well >> while, thinking of head over on the system. this obviously takes a great deal of thought, starting. planning talking with that in another war in ukraine as well. and the aid. hadas gold, always a pleasure. cedric leighton, thank you both. there is federal and local law enforcement on alert tonight. watching for potential threats right here in the united states and the wake of the israel-hamas war. the former deputy fbi director andrew mccabe this year. tell us what we should all be looking out for. >> tonight, the fbi, homeland security and law enforcement agencies across the country are on heightened alert. why? well, there are increasing reports of threats against jewish in muslim communities in the wake of the israel-hamas war. to get some perspective now from cnn law enforcement analyst andrew mccabe. he is a former fbi deck pd director. so if anybody thought that this was only going to happen abroad and it would stay abroad, they are sorely mistaken. because we have seen a lot of things already happening in terms of the concern for what might be. in fact, hamas has not called for attacks on u.s. soil specifically. but other foreign terrorist organizations have actually called for attacks. quote, may prompt homegrown extremists according to a law enforcement bulletin. when you hear, that will cause to your mind? >> for me it is like a flashback to those many, many sleepless nights. in the aftermath of terrorist attacks overseas back in the days i was running the fbi counterterrorism division. the first thing you worry about here are sympathetic attacks in the homeland. either by trained operatives who've been censured by the terrorist group. in this case hamas. or simply by people who are drawn to the ideology put out he group. their supporters of the group. and they see this activity overseas. and they feel like this is it. this is my call to action. i need to do something here. >> is that akin to the so-called lone wolf? where is that a different category? >> those. folks those people that are not members of the group. not directed by the group. they are something motivated by the group. that is what we are referring to when we talk about lone wolf's. people have gone through radicalization by themselves. they have been ingesting internet propaganda. they are drawn to the ideology. they become progressively more violent and less stable. those are the folks who are worried. that a moment like this would cause them to actually take a step into committing a violent act. >> so how do you track or trace that? in a way that you can prevent and anticipate well enough in advance to not have an attack occur? >> it is incredibly hard. because you are not investigating and keeping track of everybody in this country who believes a certain thing. you do not investigate people with their beliefs. but what do you rely upon is your established network of people. and organizations who bring information in to law enforcement or the fbi. oftentimes we build bridges in to the community. into the faith-based community to folks who are coming across so many reasons suspicions. oftentimes it is the connections that people who caused these folks to come to our attention. >> when you say build a bridge, coming get informant? sometimes it is getting an informant, sometimes it is people who get themselves into trouble and then develop relationships with law enforcement to get out of the trouble. oftentimes, it is much simpler than that. it is having heads of our 56 field offices around the country spent their time knocking on doors, going to the mosque, going to the synagogue, going to community centers and introducing themselves. building the sorts of personal relationships that enables people to think, you know what, when things get tough like we are in right now. things come cross the radar that concerns them. they have somebody in a field office to reach out to who will respond appropriately. >> in terms of social media or different platforms. i'm hearing a lot about telegram. and the people aren't using it, thinking about it as much as truth social or twitter of course. former twitter, now acts. but telegram seems to be a place that people are looking at with skepticism over propaganda. what do you know about it? >> telegram has really emerged as the current platform did your for criminal activity. that's not to say that everybody is criminal, they're certainly not. but we've seen in the past that some platforms that have looser rules about content regulations and things like that tend to be magnets for underground activity and things like that. telegram is one of those places right now. where there is a bustling economy of buying and selling stolen identity. information that has been taken in cybersecurity attacks. and things like that. so it should not be surprising to us that extremists and people trying to stave off the radar. but need to communicate with each other gravitate to platforms like telegram. >> caution, my spidey sense is in first amendment laws coming out to think of lack of constant regulation, more skepticism about propaganda and what could happen next. and there is the catch 22 of what do you do about it, right? and you can, it's so important here you. thank you so much. next i will talk with the family of a six-year-old palestinian american boy. who was stabbed to death, allegedly an anti-muslim attack in his own home. is it possible my network could take my business to the next level? it is with comcast business. powering all your devices with gig-speed wifi. and you get fast downloads and uploads. pick it up! pick it up! oh we got this! because it's powered by the next generation 10g network. more speed for your business? it's not just possible. it's happening. get started for $59.99 a month for 12 months. plus, ask how to get an $800 prepaid card with a qualifying internet bundle. comcast business, powering possibilities. >> tonight, a grieving palestinian american mothers recovering in a hospital outside chicago. her six-year-old son has been laid to rest. both were attacked in a brutal stabbing at their home. allegedly targeted for being muslim. authorities have arrested their 71 year old landlord. you see him on the screen. the doj has opened a federal hate crimes investigation. great uncle joins me. well the executive director of chicago chapter of a council on american islamic relations. thank you so much for joining us. both of you today. mahmoud. i would like to begin with you and i honestly can't express how sorry i am to be meeting you this way. i would like to begin by asking you about what he. tell me about this horrible. just six years old, a kindergartner. . yes, he's a kindergarten. six years old. like any other six-year-old. he was a lot of fun, exciting. it likes to laugh. he had a lot of friends. yesterday we were talking about the family. and they miss him. he had a future. and unfortunately it was taken early. >> how is your family cope, his mother in particular. any ideas of how she is doing right now? >> until now, we had no idea how she is. right now they are not letting us talk to her or see her or visit her. up until this point. we are trying. it will as we have to wait. i'm here today, his father until now is still in disbelief of what has just happened. so it is not easy. it's not easy, on, might i would be they could not speak to his mother, you have any idea? >> while she was stabbed 12 times. this was a brutal and heinous attack. down to 12 times. little boy was stabbed 26 times. a 12 inch knife was still in his abdomen when he was taken for an autopsy. stabbed in the face, the cheek, can't talk. she is in severe distress emotionally of course with the trauma she experienced. and so it is perhaps the hospital wanting her to be protected from the interests of the public. we are still trying to get into contact. what you described is truly heinous and unbelievable to think that that has happened to anyone, let alone a child or his mother. let me ask you. the war is now in the middle east, and yet there is a victim at least two, this little boy, his mother. you're in america. we are seeing repercussions here. what does that feel like? >> it feels frustrating and painful. this is a conversation we are just going to have to have. it is a cognitive dissonance we are experiencing here. ironically just before this segment, discussing the brutalizing of this family. there was a segment discussing potential imminent threats from the muslim community. and it is reports like this that evil man was watching he got radicalized by the coverage of the media. that is being consistently lopsided and one-sided. not like what i am seeing on cnn. statements from politicians. causing this man who had other why's been normal. had bought a tree house for the boy, by. employees become monster. stop stuff that many times because he thought that they were a threat. so i think we needed to not this societally talk of the issues. how we dehumanize palestinians. how we erase their suffering from how certain people flipping radicalized and commit these crimes. >> i think your point is certainly not lost on me. and particularly the way that we speak about and it detached away it might appear. i assure you that is not how i view it. i wonder mahmoud, for you in particular as well hearing about this as it is described. thinking about how people are becoming responsive to and reactive to things they might be hearing in different outlets. what is the way to stop it. what is the way to see things done because this should not have happened this little boy. >> we were talking about this issue and a lot unfortunately a lot of people have a phobia or against muslims. i take this monster. described as animals. i think that it starts with leaders of our country. when they hear something like some type of news. this type of information is real to somebody. like this gentlemen. like you said he was a normal person. there is not a problem with them. suddenly he just switched because of what he hears from the news. most of the things he hears unfortunately is not even true. that's where we have to start. we have to start with the community. you community unfortunately are judgmental. why didn't you just ask if you fear something. why don't you ask. i know a lot of people out there. they are muslims and they're very good friends. i have a lot of neighbors. we are on perfect terms. the reason is we communicate. >> you know we have not had as many cases we are having now. as we had since time 11. he's in the most number of cases we've had in terms of hate incidents, women being attacked burger, canes mcdonald's, groceries shops. gas stations. this incident was obviously unique and how brutal it was. but there are many incidents that we are not talking about happening as a result of the atmosphere we are and. i think we can all agree that we stand against atrocious acts against's citizens, i think that something we can all agree on. but as much as we can collectively to condemn terrorism. we must conduct actively condemn war crimes, shutting off of food, hospitals. i know there is the back and forth of who did it. but we've seen many hospitals bombed in gaza and other places. we need to be brave enough and courageous enough to have conversations and humanize both sides. do not demonize one side or another. humans are humans. i have good, bad and shortcomings. we need to have an adult conversation. even atmosphere in which we demonized entire population. and make them ripe for the killings. >> a lot of families -- >> go ahead. your point is taking, i just wanted to reiterate that i do hear you. and i think that tonight is an opportunity for us to expand beyond the conversations we've been having. we are going to have that conversation tonight. >> and you are. you've given us a platform to be able to share our feelings. we appreciate you. i'm glad that you came. your insights and the story is important. i'm glad you told us about. sadly the other incidents that have been going on. thank you to you both and i'm looking forward to hearing about the recovery of this young woman who has lost her son. thank you. thank you very much, thank you. >> he hit the nail on the head in terms of how a lot of us are struggling. to find ways to talk about what is happening in the middle east and how it's been said. with the focus is. whether it is demonization or information. how does it all come out. i will speak with a rabbi and mom right here in studio to tell me what they are saying to their faith communities. next. >> protests around the country today in the streets of new york in chicago and st. paul minnesota where i am from in washington d.c. as well more than 300 protesters were arrested on capitol hill including some from a jewish organization that worker eating not in our name. and you say cease-fire now. the back. that is just one example of what we have seen today. tensions are high. people are voicing their opinions. and the truth is, in the face of all of the unknowns of what is happening in israel and gaza, it is hard to talk about, with perhaps your friends or colleagues. our parents and children, most of us know how we might feel but struggle to understand what is in the minds and hearts of those we me to have those conversations with. as i told you, with our last conversation our guests. we need to have these conversations. i will turn to two faith leaders, one jewish, one muslim. who are facing these tough and talk necessary talks today. joining me now is a senior rabbi in washington. susan shankman. executive elon so mere. of the nations mosque. i am glad to have you here. it has felt like a minefield for so many people who are leaning into engage. trying to climb a steep learning curve. and having the visceral human reactions we are having right now. were you telling your members of congregation of the process. >> i think that people are struggling with what they are seeing. the images, trying to understand what is happening in realtime. at the same time, coping with the feelings that go along with that sense of fear. a sense of perilous-ness. a sense of just a real deep sadness, sorrow over the loss of life, over violence and over any hopes for peace being further away at this time. i think people are really having a challenging time processing all of that. and a sense of what we are doing in our daily lives. how do we continue to live our life. when all of these terrible things are happening far away. but also so close to our communities. and they really impact us all. >> honestly, i fear that people will start to hate and will look at one another in ways that brings the conflict home. and creates hostility in places we would not want it to be. you have the concern? >> we thank you for inviting this year and being here. rabbi and i have some relationship over the years. recently >> so, yes there has been an upsurge in wanting to know what to do. there has been an up surgeon they need to pray. so we say to our congregation that member got. he is the one who created you. and the one that nourishes you and evolves you. remember him, keep focused on that. and read the scripture. look to what communication is coming. be obedient in that communication and also read again to see what the communication is saying to you. these are difficult times. challenging times. our nervous system is being impacted. so we must rise above. seek guidance to give us the guidance. so we know how to behave. remind our congregation. if a mom said asked themselves the question. would profit muhammad to do that. to innocent people. and the answer would come back no he would not. so we are constantly telling the congregation, read the guidance. see what the guidance is communicating to you. be attentive to it. be obedient to it. and read it again, see what it is saying to you. >> who. had it doesn't surprise me at all we are talking about the same things with our congregations. the scriptures might be slightly different. but even last week, when everything started we had just started reading the portion. we started the whole thing over. we read the story of creation. we are told in the beginning that everything was chaos. it was void. it was just dark. god created the world with light, with the word in light. a reminder to each of us is that we have to bring the light. that we have the ability to bring light into the world. and we need to remember that even when there is darkness, there is still light. and we have the power to bring that in what we do and how we react and even when i think about the times that we have spent together as a community. told on to that. on to the humanity. and be the light for one another. for our fellow human beings. even if the words that we are using are different. i think the sentiment is so important. >> yes, we have to face those difficult talks. those challenging. talk we know how christ speaks of oppression. be more slim slaughter. worse than slaughter. so we have to understand, see what it's telling us and then we have to move in the correct ways to address it. and we address it with our father ibrahim, abraham they hope. the hope of anybody him. that universality will come to look. even if you had to do something to see. that he removed those idols. when we think of adam, we know adam. he was bored he didn't have rationality. so for one, moment what would happen if the israelis shook that nationality out of the way. what would happen if the palestinians tripped the palestinian out of the way. one human being. strip those, forgive me. strip those away. and you will see that the light will come in. so heart-wrenching to see the six-year-old young man fiu me. his life put out. did anyone get a chance on this earth to see what his intellect. what has meant a light would have brought to us. what was going off in him. we know the sun provides service to their. what service would he have done for humanity? we do not have the answer sadly. but what strikes me in this conversation hearing you speak. there's a level of optimism one can gleam. also connective tissue. i think we should feed more on that in our conversations. thank you so much to both of you, appreciate it. rabbi susan i, give you a nickname. susan shankman. imam albert, we'll be right back. >> news coming out of the middle east can leave a lot of us feeling helpless. but there is a lot of things you can do. more information about how you can help humanitarian efforts in israel and gaza. go to cnn.com/impact. or text relief to 70 70 70. that is 70, 70, 70. to donate. thank you all for watching. our live coverage continues after this short break.

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story for so long. i cannot imagine what her mom, her family has been thinking no. they suspected for a very long time. it is just unbelievable, abby. thank you. >> closure for them. >> what kind of closure. unbelievable. we will see you here tomorrow. well there is new video of the moment before the deadly explosion at a hospital in gaza. president biden is about to make a significant oval office address. what is next? tonight i'm laura coates live. president biden spent about seven hours in the israeli voice on, today and tomorrow he will formally address the nation from the oval office. now we have no idea right now what he will say, but it is hollow ground for what we call it the leader of the free world. presidents give speeches all the time, of course you see 1000 of them. but they don't often from the oval office. in fact, it is increasingly rare. -- actually here from the oval office, here is the gravitas involved. the decision to send troops to little rock to enforce school desegregation, the cuban missile crisis, the space shuttle challenger disaster, the 9/11 attacks, the iraq war, the coronavirus outbreak. now we expect it to be about two simultaneous wars. the u.s. response to hamas's attack against israel, and russia's war in ukraine. as for the latest devastation on the ground and gaza, the blast at the hospital, will president biden did not wait until he returned to the oval office to address that. no, he spoke to the press, and on camera no less, from on board air force one. >> i don't things like not, unless -- faith in the source in which i have gotten from people at the defense department who i respect the intelligence community that i respect. it is highly improbable that israel -- >> and there is new video tonight that shows a rocket fired from gaza exploding in-flight above gaza city. now the israeli defense forces point to the video as evidence that israel was not responsible for the explosion of the hospital. i'm not going to pretend to be an expert in analyzing rockets, or what happened to them, but i have experts here to unpack all of it in just a moment. there are many people that have already shown their conclusions about this entire war, and all that has followed, and perhaps will come. you have protests that are spreading, and only here in this country, but around the world. in fact, capitol police today arrested some 300 protesters from jewish -- for peace at the camp. as protesters flooded the streets in american cities, and across the middle east. now the history of america, certainly understands the value of peaceful protest. of course, speaking truth to power. what i have to emphasize the word truth. in fact, not misinformation, not propaganda. of course the fog of war makes that very difficult at times to be discerning. i can't do it with a soundbite, nor will i try to do so. we have to have real conversations with depth and context. we will go there tonight, even when especially because it is uncomfortable. i will be joined by a rabbi and a mom sitting here together for the honest discussion we need. that is coming up later this hour. here with me tonight, two experts who can help us answer some of these very many questions. cnn's jerusalem correspondent hadas gold, and colonel cedric leighton who spent 26 years as an intelligence officer in the u.s. air force. i want to get right away to what we are learning, still learning about the explosion at the hospital in gaza. cnn chief national security correspondent alex marquardt has been analyzing the video. alex, tell us all about it. >> laura, the explosion at the hospital rocked northern gaza. it lit up the night sky. you can see it in this video. cnn has geolocated that blast site to the hospital. then we also have this other angle from al jazeera appearing to show, according to an analysis by cnn, a rocket fired from inside gaza. it then explodes in the air and seconds later another blast is seen at the baptist hospital. now we have not determined definitively that the rocket is the cause of that explosion. but in tel aviv today, the president, he said u.s. intelligence matches israel's version of what happened. take a listen. >> i was outraged and saddened by the -- in the hospital in gaza. based on the information we have seen today it appears the result of an errant rocket fired by a terrorist group in gaza. >> now the u.s. has not named the group, but israel says it is palestinian islamic jihad which is allied with hamas, and also linked with iran. this american assessment which look him listen 24 hours after the deadly strike was based on what the white house now says is quote, intelligence missile activity, and open source video and images of the incident. the statement goes on to say that, some palestinian militants in gaza themselves believe that this strike was in fact carried out by islamic jihad. mora? >> alex marquardt, a lot to unpack, thank you so much. we want to bring in israeli government spokesman -- he is here now. thank you for being here today. we are going through a lot of this. the u.s. review is finding that israel is not responsible for that deadly hospital blast. that is not coming down the, region is it? you have neighboring countries who don't believe it. there's large-scale protests. so where does that leave israel now going forward? >> >> you are right, many people are not buying the overwhelming evidence that shows it is a palestinian islamic jihad missile fired. unfortunate because much of the international media was very quick why headlines, seeing 500 people killed in hospital in israeli airstrike, palestinian officials say, before there was any evidence. now when those reports ran, the only evidence was the claim that hamas -- genocidal terror organization, that perpetrated the october 7th massacre without a shred of evidence. now it took the israeli army a few hours to conduct its original investigation, that is exactly what you would expect from a professional army of a democratic state. as i discussed with your correspondents, now the overwhelming evidence now points in that direction. it isn't shut case now, that it was rockets fired from inside the gaza strip. palestinian islamic jihad. the fire we are seeing there from the propellant, the supposed fuel rocket all the way into israel, in fact exploding in the hospital bombing. >> in fact, we are going to go there and unpack greater and greater. it is important to do so. many of the reasons you have just said. people have john conclusions, and because of the really impact of all of that has taken place, the weight of it. in addition to, this president biden was telling reporters that israel will allow aid into gaza. he was blonde with israeli leaders on the need to help refugees. can you confirm that israel's on board with what president biden is saying? >> indeed. israel has no objection to humanitarian aid between the people of gaza and egypt rafah border crossing. we have just one condition, that humanitarian aid not reach hamas, the terror organization that perpetrated the atrocities of the october 7th massacre, that is our right under international law to insist that humanitarian aid donated by the international community not reach the military regime that is currently conducting war of aggression against us, just as hamas a few days ago -- from the united nations, the u.n. in fact admitting in a tweet, hamas had come and taken medicine and fuel away from stocks, enough fuel to power causes desalination plants for six days. that was stolen by hamas from united nations stockpiles. now as for the border crossings with israel, our position is clear. we will not allow our border crossings, the symporter crossings that have been attacked by people but should under fired from rockets to be used to deliver trade and aid into the gaza strip as long as there were 200 hostages are inside the gaza strip. we have 200 people from babies to elderly people who are being held brutally hostage by palestinian islamic jihad, and hamas without basic conditions, without access to the red cross, the immediate and unconditional, return and we hope that hamas will do the basic humanitarian, they will -- atrocities of october 7th, when they beheaded people anti-children up, and they have no expectation of basically military conditions from hamas. that is -- they release the hostages, in the meanwhile humanitarian aid can come from egypt. >> certainly your concerns are clear and evident as the justification for what you have just stated. how do you intend to enforce and ensure that what you are seeing comes with humanitarian aid will be heated? will you not allow people to go through until you have certain conditions that are tangibly really to you? or is there something short of that? >> you ask excellent questions about how the international community is supposed to ensure that its taxpayer dollars not reach the bloodthirsty terrorist who perpetrated the october 7th massacre. i remember after the 2014 war operation -- there was a mechanism stepped up by the united nations over the gaza reconstruction mechanism. i was involved in working on it as a young soldier myself, that was supposed to make sure that aid reached people of gaza to rebuild, not reach hamas. what we are seeing now is the result of many years in which concrete supposed to people's homes have diverted away to building hamas bunkers in shelters and pipeline supposed to be laid down -- what it ended up being taken and converted into rockets and what comes next? we are going to expect the international community to insist on a very strict safeguards to make sure the aid that is being donated move people around the world for humanitarian agencies through foreign governments not reach the military terror machine there on the 7th of october murdered 1400 of our people, injured 4000, and took 200 of them hostage in the basic humanitarian conditions in the gaza strip. >> thank you so much for joining us. we will unpack this further. thank you. here with me now, cnn's hadas gold and colonel cedric leighton. in hearing what he had to say about the conditions of being in compliance or going along with president biden has said, the conditions about hostages being released, the idea of how to ensure that the aid is not going to be essentially taken and siphoned off by hamas. is it realistic to think that could actually be a condition that could be met before it gets there? >> well i think it is possible, but there is no peacekeeping mechanism, there are no troops on the ground to keep anybody away from these stores. any mechanism to prevent hamas from going after these things. so it is a bit touchy and i think because there are no mechanisms of enforcement, i think it will be a bit of a problem, laura. >> you mentioned the international community, obviously he seem to be vigilant somerset as well as, well if their collective way to get this done? >> i think the only mechanism right now would be the united nations who does have a presence there. it will be really difficult to do that in a time of war. i don't know how you can actually do these checks in the correct way. now egypt could do on their, and but then there is a concern of where this aid will go to. now in israel's mind, they are doing this operation to completely eliminate hamas. so in a way, if they can go in and eliminate hamas the way they think they need to do so, then the aid was those centrally have nowhere to go to be administered by hamas if they no longer, exist if this is successful. >> i want to talk about this new video, there's been a lot of courses from the media about the headlines that initially came out about whether and who was responsible for the attack on the hospital. whether it was an arab, rocket or is really a strike, you saw the video tonight colonel leighton. cnn also analyzed saying the rocket was fired from gaza appearing to explode in the air moments before the hospital explosion. now obviously cnn has not made its own independent assessment of this intelligence. but what is next in terms of how to look at this? and how you see it? >> yes, laura. the key thing is, what kind of explosion happened? and where did it occur? so in the video we do see an explosion occurring over the hospital over the general area of the hospital and that explosion is consistent with a rocket exploding in-flight, in midflight. that very fact lancelot of credence to the israeli position on this. >> because there was not enough destruction to qualify for an above air force you think? >> that is part of, exactly. another question that hasn't been answered yet, is where we're israeli aircraft in that moment and time? so if you know, the flight path of israeli aircraft at that particular moment in time, was it possible for an israeli aircraft to have fired a missile at the hospital from the position that that aircraft was in? that specific moment in time? nobody has answered that specific question yet to my knowledge. however, everything we see in the video, all of the other evidence including the fact that there is no huge crater anywhere near the hospital, that indicates it was not a munition that was fired from an aircraft. >> that is important, i want to president biden is going to adjust that in his address tomorrow. obviously the nuance you are talking about, details you don't often hear from the president of the united states about issues such as this. what do you expect to hear? >> i think he will have to adjust, it just because of what he, said what so much of the world's are in those first few, hours those headlines. if you're just an average person scrolling through the headlines, you see that, you say okay, they are to blame. then your hearing the president say that the america needs to support israel in this war against hamas. so he needs to bridge that gap, explaining again, once again why meghan should care about something that is happening thousands of miles away. also, we do expect him to make the case for a huge aid package. now this aid package will not just be for israel, it will be for ukraine, for the war for other elements -- are the issues that america cares about. he is going to be making a big ask from the american people. i think there's a lot of concern also, from americans, that there will be americans involved. they know there is carrier ships of the coast, marines potentially in route, so we will potentially hear from him about whether americans should be concerned that once again they will be getting entangled into a foreign war that is not necessarily on their soil. we also think we will hear from him about the, aid and the humanitarian crisis that people are seeing on their screens more and more, and trying to explain what america is doing enough support of israel, and why it is so important in this moment. also keep in mind for israel, need this aid, because not only are they fighting hamas, they have issues on the northern border with hezbollah, they need to get ready for that. also, those iron domes, those are very expensive. every time they are launched, that is tens of thousands of dollars for a single interrupt. think about how many of those intercepts have now been launched. >> that's incredible to think. to overwhelm the system. >> because they know when they did that, they made it very clear. that their intent was to overwhelm the defenses and do it in a way. that would in essence bankrupt israel. and if they kept up with this activity. have a lot of rockets. probably a lot more than the intelligence has assessed in their possession. that is one of the things that these countries where these entities do. they try to overwhelm defenses that have been established over a long period of time. and that is going to be a key factor when you look at it from a fiscal legal standpoint and a military standpoint. >> ten times more than what hamas. so there is a preparation element to this is. well >> while, thinking of head over on the system. this obviously takes a great deal of thought, starting. planning talking with that in another war in ukraine as well. and the aid. hadas gold, always a pleasure. cedric leighton, thank you both. there is federal and local law enforcement on alert tonight. watching for potential threats right here in the united states and the wake of the israel-hamas war. the former deputy fbi director andrew mccabe this year. tell us what we should all be looking out for. >> tonight, the fbi, homeland security and law enforcement agencies across the country are on heightened alert. why? well, there are increasing reports of threats against jewish in muslim communities in the wake of the israel-hamas war. to get some perspective now from cnn law enforcement analyst andrew mccabe. he is a former fbi deck pd director. so if anybody thought that this was only going to happen abroad and it would stay abroad, they are sorely mistaken. because we have seen a lot of things already happening in terms of the concern for what might be. in fact, hamas has not called for attacks on u.s. soil specifically. but other foreign terrorist organizations have actually called for attacks. quote, may prompt homegrown extremists according to a law enforcement bulletin. when you hear, that will cause to your mind? >> for me it is like a flashback to those many, many sleepless nights. in the aftermath of terrorist attacks overseas back in the days i was running the fbi counterterrorism division. the first thing you worry about here are sympathetic attacks in the homeland. either by trained operatives who've been censured by the terrorist group. in this case hamas. or simply by people who are drawn to the ideology put out he group. their supporters of the group. and they see this activity overseas. and they feel like this is it. this is my call to action. i need to do something here. >> is that akin to the so-called lone wolf? where is that a different category? >> those. folks those people that are not members of the group. not directed by the group. they are something motivated by the group. that is what we are referring to when we talk about lone wolf's. people have gone through radicalization by themselves. they have been ingesting internet propaganda. they are drawn to the ideology. they become progressively more violent and less stable. those are the folks who are worried. that a moment like this would cause them to actually take a step into committing a violent act. >> so how do you track or trace that? in a way that you can prevent and anticipate well enough in advance to not have an attack occur? >> it is incredibly hard. because you are not investigating and keeping track of everybody in this country who believes a certain thing. you do not investigate people with their beliefs. but what do you rely upon is your established network of people. and organizations who bring information in to law enforcement or the fbi. oftentimes we build bridges in to the community. into the faith-based community to folks who are coming across so many reasons suspicions. oftentimes it is the connections that people who caused these folks to come to our attention. >> when you say build a bridge, coming get informant? sometimes it is getting an informant, sometimes it is people who get themselves into trouble and then develop relationships with law enforcement to get out of the trouble. oftentimes, it is much simpler than that. it is having heads of our 56 field offices around the country spent their time knocking on doors, going to the mosque, going to the synagogue, going to community centers and introducing themselves. building the sorts of personal relationships that enables people to think, you know what, when things get tough like we are in right now. things come cross the radar that concerns them. they have somebody in a field office to reach out to who will respond appropriately. >> in terms of social media or different platforms. i'm hearing a lot about telegram. and the people aren't using it, thinking about it as much as truth social or twitter of course. former twitter, now acts. but telegram seems to be a place that people are looking at with skepticism over propaganda. what do you know about it? >> telegram has really emerged as the current platform did your for criminal activity. that's not to say that everybody is criminal, they're certainly not. but we've seen in the past that some platforms that have looser rules about content regulations and things like that tend to be magnets for underground activity and things like that. telegram is one of those places right now. where there is a bustling economy of buying and selling stolen identity. information that has been taken in cybersecurity attacks. and things like that. so it should not be surprising to us that extremists and people trying to stave off the radar. but need to communicate with each other gravitate to platforms like telegram. >> caution, my spidey sense is in first amendment laws coming out to think of lack of constant regulation, more skepticism about propaganda and what could happen next. and there is the catch 22 of what do you do about it, right? and you can, it's so important here you. thank you so much. next i will talk with the family of a six-year-old palestinian american boy. who was stabbed to death, allegedly an anti-muslim attack in his own home. is it possible my network could take my business to the next level? it is with comcast business. powering all your devices with gig-speed wifi. and you get fast downloads and uploads. pick it up! pick it up! oh we got this! because it's powered by the next generation 10g network. more speed for your business? it's not just possible. it's happening. get started for $59.99 a month for 12 months. plus, ask how to get an $800 prepaid card with a qualifying internet bundle. comcast business, powering possibilities. >> tonight, a grieving palestinian american mothers recovering in a hospital outside chicago. her six-year-old son has been laid to rest. both were attacked in a brutal stabbing at their home. allegedly targeted for being muslim. authorities have arrested their 71 year old landlord. you see him on the screen. the doj has opened a federal hate crimes investigation. great uncle joins me. well the executive director of chicago chapter of a council on american islamic relations. thank you so much for joining us. both of you today. mahmoud. i would like to begin with you and i honestly can't express how sorry i am to be meeting you this way. i would like to begin by asking you about what he. tell me about this horrible. just six years old, a kindergartner. . yes, he's a kindergarten. six years old. like any other six-year-old. he was a lot of fun, exciting. it likes to laugh. he had a lot of friends. yesterday we were talking about the family. and they miss him. he had a future. and unfortunately it was taken early. >> how is your family cope, his mother in particular. any ideas of how she is doing right now? >> until now, we had no idea how she is. right now they are not letting us talk to her or see her or visit her. up until this point. we are trying. it will as we have to wait. i'm here today, his father until now is still in disbelief of what has just happened. so it is not easy. it's not easy, on, might i would be they could not speak to his mother, you have any idea? >> while she was stabbed 12 times. this was a brutal and heinous attack. down to 12 times. little boy was stabbed 26 times. a 12 inch knife was still in his abdomen when he was taken for an autopsy. stabbed in the face, the cheek, can't talk. she is in severe distress emotionally of course with the trauma she experienced. and so it is perhaps the hospital wanting her to be protected from the interests of the public. we are still trying to get into contact. what you described is truly heinous and unbelievable to think that that has happened to anyone, let alone a child or his mother. let me ask you. the war is now in the middle east, and yet there is a victim at least two, this little boy, his mother. you're in america. we are seeing repercussions here. what does that feel like? >> it feels frustrating and painful. this is a conversation we are just going to have to have. it is a cognitive dissonance we are experiencing here. ironically just before this segment, discussing the brutalizing of this family. there was a segment discussing potential imminent threats from the muslim community. and it is reports like this that evil man was watching he got radicalized by the coverage of the media. that is being consistently lopsided and one-sided. not like what i am seeing on cnn. statements from politicians. causing this man who had other why's been normal. had bought a tree house for the boy, by. employees become monster. stop stuff that many times because he thought that they were a threat. so i think we needed to not this societally talk of the issues. how we dehumanize palestinians. how we erase their suffering from how certain people flipping radicalized and commit these crimes. >> i think your point is certainly not lost on me. and particularly the way that we speak about and it detached away it might appear. i assure you that is not how i view it. i wonder mahmoud, for you in particular as well hearing about this as it is described. thinking about how people are becoming responsive to and reactive to things they might be hearing in different outlets. what is the way to stop it. what is the way to see things done because this should not have happened this little boy. >> we were talking about this issue and a lot unfortunately a lot of people have a phobia or against muslims. i take this monster. described as animals. i think that it starts with leaders of our country. when they hear something like some type of news. this type of information is real to somebody. like this gentlemen. like you said he was a normal person. there is not a problem with them. suddenly he just switched because of what he hears from the news. most of the things he hears unfortunately is not even true. that's where we have to start. we have to start with the community. you community unfortunately are judgmental. why didn't you just ask if you fear something. why don't you ask. i know a lot of people out there. they are muslims and they're very good friends. i have a lot of neighbors. we are on perfect terms. the reason is we communicate. >> you know we have not had as many cases we are having now. as we had since time 11. he's in the most number of cases we've had in terms of hate incidents, women being attacked burger, canes mcdonald's, groceries shops. gas stations. this incident was obviously unique and how brutal it was. but there are many incidents that we are not talking about happening as a result of the atmosphere we are and. i think we can all agree that we stand against atrocious acts against's citizens, i think that something we can all agree on. but as much as we can collectively to condemn terrorism. we must conduct actively condemn war crimes, shutting off of food, hospitals. i know there is the back and forth of who did it. but we've seen many hospitals bombed in gaza and other places. we need to be brave enough and courageous enough to have conversations and humanize both sides. do not demonize one side or another. humans are humans. i have good, bad and shortcomings. we need to have an adult conversation. even atmosphere in which we demonized entire population. and make them ripe for the killings. >> a lot of families -- >> go ahead. your point is taking, i just wanted to reiterate that i do hear you. and i think that tonight is an opportunity for us to expand beyond the conversations we've been having. we are going to have that conversation tonight. >> and you are. you've given us a platform to be able to share our feelings. we appreciate you. i'm glad that you came. your insights and the story is important. i'm glad you told us about. sadly the other incidents that have been going on. thank you to you both and i'm looking forward to hearing about the recovery of this young woman who has lost her son. thank you. thank you very much, thank you. >> he hit the nail on the head in terms of how a lot of us are struggling. to find ways to talk about what is happening in the middle east and how it's been said. with the focus is. whether it is demonization or information. how does it all come out. i will speak with a rabbi and mom right here in studio to tell me what they are saying to their faith communities. next. >> protests around the country today in the streets of new york in chicago and st. paul minnesota where i am from in washington d.c. as well more than 300 protesters were arrested on capitol hill including some from a jewish organization that worker eating not in our name. and you say cease-fire now. the back. that is just one example of what we have seen today. tensions are high. people are voicing their opinions. and the truth is, in the face of all of the unknowns of what is happening in israel and gaza, it is hard to talk about, with perhaps your friends or colleagues. our parents and children, most of us know how we might feel but struggle to understand what is in the minds and hearts of those we me to have those conversations with. as i told you, with our last conversation our guests. we need to have these conversations. i will turn to two faith leaders, one jewish, one muslim. who are facing these tough and talk necessary talks today. joining me now is a senior rabbi in washington. susan shankman. executive elon so mere. of the nations mosque. i am glad to have you here. it has felt like a minefield for so many people who are leaning into engage. trying to climb a steep learning curve. and having the visceral human reactions we are having right now. were you telling your members of congregation of the process. >> i think that people are struggling with what they are seeing. the images, trying to understand what is happening in realtime. at the same time, coping with the feelings that go along with that sense of fear. a sense of perilous-ness. a sense of just a real deep sadness, sorrow over the loss of life, over violence and over any hopes for peace being further away at this time. i think people are really having a challenging time processing all of that. and a sense of what we are doing in our daily lives. how do we continue to live our life. when all of these terrible things are happening far away. but also so close to our communities. and they really impact us all. >> honestly, i fear that people will start to hate and will look at one another in ways that brings the conflict home. and creates hostility in places we would not want it to be. you have the concern? >> we thank you for inviting this year and being here. rabbi and i have some relationship over the years. recently >> so, yes there has been an upsurge in wanting to know what to do. there has been an up surgeon they need to pray. so we say to our congregation that member got. he is the one who created you. and the one that nourishes you and evolves you. remember him, keep focused on that. and read the scripture. look to what communication is coming. be obedient in that communication and also read again to see what the communication is saying to you. these are difficult times. challenging times. our nervous system is being impacted. so we must rise above. seek guidance to give us the guidance. so we know how to behave. remind our congregation. if a mom said asked themselves the question. would profit muhammad to do that. to innocent people. and the answer would come back no he would not. so we are constantly telling the congregation, read the guidance. see what the guidance is communicating to you. be attentive to it. be obedient to it. and read it again, see what it is saying to you. >> who. had it doesn't surprise me at all we are talking about the same things with our congregations. the scriptures might be slightly different. but even last week, when everything started we had just started reading the portion. we started the whole thing over. we read the story of creation. we are told in the beginning that everything was chaos. it was void. it was just dark. god created the world with light, with the word in light. a reminder to each of us is that we have to bring the light. that we have the ability to bring light into the world. and we need to remember that even when there is darkness, there is still light. and we have the power to bring that in what we do and how we react and even when i think about the times that we have spent together as a community. told on to that. on to the humanity. and be the light for one another. for our fellow human beings. even if the words that we are using are different. i think the sentiment is so important. >> yes, we have to face those difficult talks. those challenging. talk we know how christ speaks of oppression. be more slim slaughter. worse than slaughter. so we have to understand, see what it's telling us and then we have to move in the correct ways to address it. and we address it with our father ibrahim, abraham they hope. the hope of anybody him. that universality will come to look. even if you had to do something to see. that he removed those idols. when we think of adam, we know adam. he was bored he didn't have rationality. so for one, moment what would happen if the israelis shook that nationality out of the way. what would happen if the palestinians tripped the palestinian out of the way. one human being. strip those, forgive me. strip those away. and you will see that the light will come in. so heart-wrenching to see the six-year-old young man fiu me. his life put out. did anyone get a chance on this earth to see what his intellect. what has meant a light would have brought to us. what was going off in him. we know the sun provides service to their. what service would he have done for humanity? we do not have the answer sadly. but what strikes me in this conversation hearing you speak. there's a level of optimism one can gleam. also connective tissue. i think we should feed more on that in our conversations. thank you so much to both of you, appreciate it. rabbi susan i, give you a nickname. susan shankman. imam albert, we'll be right back. >> news coming out of the middle east can leave a lot of us feeling helpless. but there is a lot of things you can do. more information about how you can help humanitarian efforts in israel and gaza. go to cnn.com/impact. or text relief to 70 70 70. that is 70, 70, 70. to donate. thank you all for watching. our live coverage continues after this short break.

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