Next stages of war. Nine days after the brutal Terrorist Attack by hamas, israel ramps up for a ground war in gaza. Its only the beginning. But how will civilians including americans avoid the violence . U. S. National security adviser Jake Sullivan joins me live, next. Plus, on edge, as President Biden strongly backs israel we will make sure israel has what it needs to take care of its citizens, defend itself and respond to this attack. A divide over the war is splintering the republican field. Israel was not ready. We need to have israels back. How would a republican Commander In Chief approach the middle east. Former u. N. Ambassador and former president ial candidate nikki haley is here exclusively ahead. And how was cards. House republicans are still at odds over their choice for speaker, with congress paralyzed, will they be able to deliver aid . Republican congressman dan crenshaw is coming up. Hello, im jake tapper in washington, where the state of our union is frankly heartsick, upset about the innocence taken from us starting eight days ago with that horrific hamas Terrorist Attack, as well as the civilians killed since in israel and gaza. And concerned about what this next phase of the war in the middle east will look like. And whether there is any real thought as to what is coming next. The Israeli Government says after eight days of a brutal air campaign in gaza, it is now preparing, quote, significant Ground Operations in response to the devastating terror attacks, in which 1,000 israelis were slaughtered. The deadliest day for the jewish people since the holocaust, which was accompanied by the kidnapping of more than 100 innocents. Just look at these israeli babies, reportedly hostages of hamas, on the front page of the israeli newspaper this morning. Meanwhile, Tens Of Thousands of innocent civilians in gaza, population 2. 3 million, are desperately trying to flee. There are reports from inside that country that hamas, which uses palestinians as human shields, has Set Up Polblockadeo stop its own people from fleeing, while the israelis and Egyptians Prevent Access Out of gaza, all of it leading to a disastrous humanitarian crisis. From a top u. N. Official, quote, hospitals overwhelmed with patients are running out of medicine. Morgues are overflowing. Homes, schools, shelters, Health Centers and places of worship are under intense bombardment. This morning, International Officials say the only reliable exit from gaza remains closed. Cnns sara sidner joins me now from televiv, israel. Sara, what is the mood on the ground there as israel prepares for the next stage of this war . Reporter its tense. Its Anxiety Feeling for the residents here, and as they prepare with more than 300,000 reservist who have gone to the border with gaza. It seems pretty imminent that a ground war is about to get underway. The Israeli Military has said that it is preparing for what it calls the next stages of the war. Well, we know that some of the early stages were a response from the sky. We have seen a lot of that overnight, where air strikes have been hitting in gaza. But you have this humanitarian crisis that is unfolding in gaza now, partly because of the israeli blockade, partly because hamas is not aiding or letting people leave, according to reports inside of gaza. And so you have this crisis that is unfolding. You do not have fuel, you do not have potable water, you dmo not have food coming into gaza. Things are getting very, very desperate, never mind the number of people who have been injured and hospitals are at their absolute breaking point. The world will be watching this. I just spoke to peter lerner with the Israeli Defense forces. And he said, time is of the essence, essentially. They are planning to go to their next phase very, very soon. Why is that, i asked him . He said, because they need to rid gaza of hamas. And that is the ultimate plan. Now, the difficulty is how they do that. Because there are Aid Organizations that are trying to get supplies, trying to get anything to those who are in desperate need to have the basics of life. And there are civilians in one of the most densely populated places on earth, trying to figure out where in gods name they can go to be safe. Just, you know, to get out of the way of harm. This is a really, really difficult situation that gaza finds itself in, and frankly, that israel finds itself in, as it prepares for a ground defensive. Thank you so much, sara sidner. Joining us now, jikake sullivan. When do you expect an Israeli Ground invasion to start and what might that look like . Jake, ill have to leave that to the Israeli Defense forces, to the idf to answer. They will determine their timetable, and they will determine the scope and nature of that operation. Its not for me to say. I will say, were in Constant Contact with them, so we can best understand what they are planning, but i cant sit here and give you any timetable or details on that operation. Thats for them. Whats the ultimate goal of this incursion . Is it to invade, to kick out all of hamas, to Reoccupy Gaza . Whos going to take over afterwards . Will refugees who escape gaza be allowed to come back . Well, at the broadest level, the goal is to ensure the safety and security of the jewish people. At the next level down, its to eliminate the hamas Terrorist Infrastructure, the hamas terrorist threat so that hamas cannot pose a threat to israeli citizens, to the state of israel, going forward. Youve raised a number of questions there that i think are really important. They are questions we are grappling with in talking of israelis about even now. What is the longterm look like . Even as you work on the immediate term. Im not in a position to give you definitive answers to that. But, of course, we are talking to the israelis about the full set of questions, looking out into the future, to ensure that israel is safe and secure, and also that innocent palestinians living in gaza can have a life of dignity, security, and peace in the future, as well. Is rescuing the hostages a priority at all . Israeli news media say they seem it doesnt seem like it at all. And if my kids were being held hostage in gaza, and as you know, there are americans being held hostage in gaza right now, i would want you to send in the navy s. E. A. L. S. Whats the conversation like in the white house about the u. S. Conducting any sort of operations in order to save americans being held hostage in gaza . Well, the president has been very clear that he has no higher priority than getting americans back safe, americans who are being held hostage by hamas the israelis are bombing the crap out of gaza, i mean, it doesnt seem like saving the hostages are a priority at all right now. Well, for President Biden, they are a priority. Theyre the highest possible priority. And he has sent Hostage Experts to coordinate and consult with the Israeli Government on hostage recovery efforts. Hes also made sure that our diplomats are in touch with third countries in the region to explore avenues for their safe release. I have to be cautious about how much i can say about certain efforts hes undertaking, because we want to protect those efforts to give us the best possible chance of getting our people home. Now, jake, one important point when it comes to the issue of the navy s. E. A. L. S is we do not at this point have. It Location Information for where the american hostages are. So we have to continue to refine our understanding of where they are, and who they are. Because we know there are 15 unaccounted for americans, but we cannot confirm the precise number of american hostages being held by hamas at this time. All we can do is to continue to work closely with the Israeli Government on hostage recovery operations, which we are doing, and then work through third countries to see if there are avenues for release. Those efforts are underway. Our hope is that they can produce results. We will continue to stay focused on this. Its as high a priority as the president has. One senior political operative with hamas floated the possibility a few days ago of a potential Prisoner Swap with the u. S. , for the release of hostages. Would the u. S. Entertain that . We have not looked at that we have not heard from them, Something Like that. Thats not something that is currently under active discussion, and it has not been proposed. What we are focused on instead, as i have said before, are pursuing avenues with third countries for release. Im not going to get into the details of what that might look like, again, to protect those channels in hopes that they can bear some fruit. But, i will say that President Biden has shown over the course of the past few years, that he will make hard decisions to get american hostages home. In this case, our focus is on working through those third country channels and ill leave it at that for now. So i think there are serious reasons to question how good any intelligence about what is in gaza is. I mean, obviously, hamas was able to carry out this horrific attack eight days ago, catching everybody completely offguard. You just said that we dont know where the hostages are in gaza. And yet the israelis claim, the idf claims that it is bombing places that it knows are hamas targets. How can we be sure that thats true . I mean, i hamas is a terrorist group, dont get me wrong, but how do we know anything about what theyre hitting, given the fact that it doesnt sound like any of the intelligence inside gaza is particularly good. Well, jake, israel has known where particularly parts of hamas Terrorist Infrastructure have been located. They know, for example, where rockets are fired from. And they can go back to those locations to take out the rocket placements. They know from various forms of Intelligence Collection where certain individuals are located, who are senior commanders in hamas, who are part of the bloody and barbaric attacks that took place against israel last saturday. So, they do have information to be able to go after specific targets, actionable targets, similar to the way that the United States has been able to do that in other places in other contexts. The United States has taken a very clear stand. It is a stand that we dont just take in this situation, but weve taken all along, which is that we stand for the rule of law, we stand for the law of war, we stand for the protectio innocent palestinians who have nothing to do with hamas can get to safe areas where they will be safe from bombardment and will have access to necessary tis like food, water, shelter, and medicine. I mean, you say you stand for the rule of law, again, hamas is vile. What they did eight days ago, theyre targeting civilians, its horrific. But whats going on right now is not just a pulmoof hamas. More than 700 children have been reportedly killed in gaza and obviously, electricity, food, water, supplies have been cut off by israel to the totality of gaza. Obviously, the blockade is not just by israel, its by egypt, too. Take a listen to what Secretary Blinken said last year when putin was targeting ukrainian infrastructure. Heat, water, electricity for children, for the elderly, for the sick. These are president putins new targets. Hes hitting them hard. This brutalization of ukraines people is barbaric. Look, israel is not russia, gaza is not ukraine. Its a different situation, but cutting off supplies, cutting off heat, cutting off water to civilians, whats the difference . Well, first, thank you for saying that israel is not russia, because israel is not russia. But civilians are civilians, jake. Civilians are civilians. Yes, absolutely, they are. And they deserve, as i said before, access to water and medicine and food. And we are working actively to ensure that that happens. And i can tell you this morning, jake, i have been in touch with my israeli counterparts just within the last hour who report to me that they have, in fact, turned the water pipe back on in southern gaza. That has been the subject of discussion over the course of the past few days. The United States is going to continue working with israel, with the u. N. , with egypt, with jordan, and with a lot of the groups on the ground to make sure that innocent palestinians get access to those basic necessities and are protected from bombardment. Because they deserve that right, the right to those necessities. And the right to safety and security, every bit as much of ukrainian civilians or civilians anywhere do. And the United States hasnt made any bones about that. Were working hard on that and to make sure that this is the case, and thats something that has been a high priority for President Biden, Secretary Blinken, and myself. But youre not telling the israelis to let the palestinian hospitals have power. Our position is that hospitals should be able to function, hospitals should not be targeted. People should be able to get access to lifesaving medical care. We dont qualify these statements, we dont say that theres some kind of caveat to them. These are simple, clear, declarative statements. It is our position, thats consistent with the law of armed conflict, the law of war. Its consistent with our view as we have prevented it. And i would just say, jake, that theres a lot of reports in the fog of war about things that happen. Were not going to respond to every one of those, because we will seek clarity in the appropriate way, but we will never back off our basic principles and our basic proposition, which we have made both publicly and privately about our view, about how civilians have to be protected. I havent asked you any of the fog of war stories. Ive seen stories that blame israel for things that later on it turns out hamas did them. I get it. I understand. But we have reports and im sure you have them too that hundreds of the individuals stalk in gaza are American Citizens. You know that, too. There are also hundreds of thousands of americans in israel that are trying to get out also, and the Biden Administration is doing a lot to get those individuals out. 29 of the individuals killed by hamas were american. And there are, i think, what is it, Something Like 40 americans that are unaccounted for, who were maybe taken prisoner by hamas. But i want to talk to you about one palestinian American Woman we talked to whos from new jersey. Shes got three kids. 8, 2, and 2 months. I sent you the interview we did with her earlier in the week. She got to the border, the rafa crossing, she cant get out because the egyptians wont open the crossing. Listen to what she told me earlier this week. We tried to contact the u. S. Embassy so many times. Unfortunately, they couldnt help us at all. I contacted them through the phone, the email, i texted, and i called different numbers, but nobody i couldnt hear that from any. We are all here feeling abandon and were feeling that were left alone. I dont know how many billions of dollars we give the egyptians every year, why cant you tell president cici to order the border to let americans out . We have told president cici to open the border to let americans out. The situation there at the crossing is actually more complicated. The egyptians have, in fact, agreed to allow americans to depart to get safe passage through the rafa crossing. The israelis agreed to ensure that the area around there would be safe at least as far as they were able to do so. The question when we tried to move a group yesterday was actually hamas taking steps to try to stop that from happening. But we are continuing to work this around the clock, and we are doing all that we can to make sure that American Citizens who are in gaza can get through that border cross. Secretary blinken in fact is in egypt today meeting with the president of egypt. This is at the top of his list to help get those American Citizens out of gaza. Anyone who is a u. S. Citizen should have the right to free passage through there, and then have the u. S. Government facilitate their travel home. Yeah, i dont i dont do it that the biggest problem in all of this is hamas. Jake sullivan, thank you so much, appreciate it. She was u. N. Ambassador, now she wants to be president. So what does she make of the u. N. Warnings about israels war on gaza . Nikki haley joins me live, next. And then are republicans on track for another embarrassing speaker vote this week . Another one. A congressman who is quite furious at what is going on with the gop will be here. Stay with us. Welcome back to State Of The Union. Im jake tapper. As the Israeli Government warns of a new phase in its fight against hamas, brandnew polling just into cnn shows how americans are feeling about this war. The u. S. Public broadly feels israels military response to the hamas Terrorist Attack is fully justified, but the difference by age is quite stark. 81 of americans over the age of 65 feel the response by the Israeli Government is fully justified. But just 27 of americans 18 to 34 years old feel that way. The humanitarian crisis is also top of mind for many americans. 71 of americans feel a lot of sympathy for the people of israel. 41 feel a lot of sympathy for the palestinian people. Former u. N. Ambassador and 2024 republican president ial candidate nikki haley joins us now. Ambassador hailey, thanks so much for joining us. If you were president right now, would you consider using the u. S. Special operations to rescue american hostages being held in gaza . You just heard Jake Sullivan say, one of the complications with that is we dont know exactly where the hostages are. But im wondering if you would consider such a thing. Thanks for having me, jake. I think its important. You have to tell hard truths to americans. And when youre talking about this and you showed those percentages of what people think and what they think we should do, you have to be honest with them. This is messy, right . I mean, we desperately want to get those americans hostages out, but if you saw those kids in the hands of those terrorists, like, with a mom heart, it made me sick to my stomach for all of those parents having to see their children in those terrorists hands. So of course we want them out. But why is it so easy that we can do that . Its because we dont know where they are. And i have been in those tunnels that are massive, that are sophisticated, and that hammas uses to hide equipment and ammunition and to do their dirty work and maybe of the those hostages, but where are those tunnels . Theyre underneath hospitals, theyre underneath schools. Theyre in hard to find places. This is incredibly tough. I feel for the israeli families, for the american families, and i feel for any other families who have lost a loved one or have someone in a hostage situation. Because its really bleak right now and its hard for anyone to feel good about this. We just showed images that your office gave us when you visited israel in 20 1k315 and idf took you to those tunnels. Its already pretty bad. There are more than 2. 3 million palestinians in gaza. More than half of them are children. Do you think the u. S. , israel, egypt needs to be doing more to help these innocent Palestinian Civilians get out of harms way. Although you just heard Jake Sullivan say, one of the problems is that hamas is keeping the civilians in gaza. They dont want them to leave. There are a couple of things at play here. Hamas is going to do everything they can to not have them leave, because guess what . They want them all to die. One, they want to use them as human cheshields, but they want blame israel and say, look what israel did. But dont ever forget those girls running for their life. Dont ever forget those babies that were killed in cribs. Dont ever forget the people that they were dragging through the streets. They were saying, death to israel, death to america. Thats who were dealing with. I dealt with this at the united nations. Youll hear all of those arab countries vilify israel for whats about to happen. Youll hear all of them say, how dare you not do more for the palestinian people. And you know what . We should care about the palestinian citizens, especially the innocent ones, because they didnt ask for this. But where are the arab countries . Where is qatar, where is lebanon, where is jordan, where is egypt . Do you know we give egypt over 1 billion a year . Why arent they opening the gates . Why arent they taking the palestinians . You know why . Because they know they cant vet them and they dont want hamas in their neighborhood. So why would israel want them in their neighborhood. Lets be honest with whats going on. The arab countries arent doing anything to help the palestinians, because they dont trust who is right, who is good, who is evil and they dont want it in their country. Theyre going to come and blame america, theyre going to blame israel, and dont fall for it, because they have the ability to fix all of this if they wanted to. They have the ability to go in and tell hamas right now to stop what theyre doing. They have the ability to tell hamas to let those people out. But you know what . Qatar is going to continue to work with hamas and their leadership. Iran will continue to to fund all of this and not say anything. And whos silent . Every one of those arab countries will be silent, but expect for the finger to point to israel and the finger is going to point to america. I want you to take a listen to this statement that Governor Ron Desantis made about all, i guess hes talking about all of the 2. 3 million palestinians. He said this on the Campaign Trail in iowa yesterday. If you look at how they behave, not all of them are hamas, but they are all anti antisemitic, none of them believe in voisraels right to exist. Just for our viewers edification, according to recent polli ing earlier this year fro the Washington Institute which is a proisrael group, using the polling of Palestinian Center for public opinion, 62 of gazans wanted the ceasefire with israel to stay in place, 50 of gazans want hamas to stop calling for israels destruction, want hamas to accept a twostate solution, 70 of gazans wanted the Palestinian Authority from the west bank to take over gaza. So im not really sure that Governor Desantis has a real read on the difference between hamas and the people of gaza. What was your response when you heard what Governor Desantis said . You know, i dealt with this every day for two years. And what i can tell you is, you have to realize that whether were talking about gazans and palestinians, all of them dont you have half of them at the time that i was there, didnt want to be under hamas rule. They didnt want to have terrorists overseeing them. They knew that they were living a terrible life because of hamas. You had the other half that supported hamas and wanted to be a part of that. We see that with iran, too. The iranian people dont want to be under that Iranian Regime. There are so many of these people who want to be free from this terrorist rule. They want to be free from all of that. And america has always been sympathetic to the fact that you can separate civilians from terrorists. And thats what we have to do, but right now, we can never take our eyes off of the terrorists. I mean, what hamas did was beyond thuggish, brutal, and sick. What the Iranian Regime is doing to help them is terrible, but lets look back at what did biden do . Biden turned around and fell all over himself to get into the iran deal. Obama did it before that. You gave all of this money, and you empowered iran to go and strengthen hamas, strengthen hezbollah, strengthen the Hewitt Y Houthis to spread their terrorist activity. Biden has loseened the sanctions. Now weve got the fact that he gave 6 billion in hostage money. Now hes frozen it, but we have all of these american hostages. Guess what theyre going to want. If you gave them 6 billion for five people and released hostages, guess what theyre going to be asking for all of these others that we have. So we created this scenario where youve given the Iranian Regime too much power and too much pull to be able to do this. Weve got to be strong, weve got to have israels back, and remember, as awful as these images are, and we have the back of israel, because theyve been hit terribly, we have to have the back of them when they hit back as well. So speaking of having israels back, i want you to take a listen to what donald trump had to say about israeli Prime MinisterBenjamin Netanyahu a few days ago. He has been hurt very badly because of whats happened here. He was not prepared. He was not prepared and israel was not prepared. And under trump, they wouldnt have had to be prepared. He went on to call hezbolla very smart, called the Defense Minister a jerk, and he went on and on. This was, i think, wednesday, so four days after the deadliest day for the jewish people since the holocaust. What was your response when you heard that . Its why i continue to say it is time for a new Generational Leader. Weve got to get past the headlines of the past. Look, he congratulated the Chinese Communist party not too long algo. Hes calling hezbollah smart. I can tell you at the united nations, and i dealt with all of them every day, you dont go and compliment any of them. Because that makes america look weak. It doesnt make america look strong or make america have friends with them. You show strength. You let them know what we expect of them. So complimenting hezbollah and going and complimenting the Chinese Communist party or criticizing a leader who has just watched so many of his citizens brutally murdered, its the wrong place at the wrong time. This isnt about trump. Its not about him. Its not about what happened in the past. Weve got to look forward. This is going to be tough days ahead for everyone involved. This is not the time to sit there and bash a leader. This is a time to sit there and give him the support he needs, give the israeli people the support they need, and help us get through this in the best way possible. Before you go, the house still doesnt have a speaker for the first time nin american history. This is nearly two weeks after Kevin Mccarthy was stripped of his leadership. They cant even pass resolution condemning the hamas attacks. Its starting to look like there is not one House Republican who can get 217 votes. Austin scott said the chaos, quote, makes us look like a bunch of idiots, unquote. Is he right . Well, ill tell you whats right is, under the Biden Administration, weve seen chaos within you cant blame that on biden. You cant blame this on biden. No, you can well, you have to let me finish. Okay. We have seen chaos with inflation, weve seen chaos with the lack of Trump Administration in education, weve seen chaos on the border, weve seen chaos with crime on the streets and now were seeing chaos around the world. What i am saying is, you cant fit democrat chaos with republican chaos. They need to get it together. They need to get in a room and figure out who this is going to be and come out unified. Thats what republicans need to do. This is not a good look. This is not good for our country. We saw what happened to israel when they were distracted. America looks so distracted right now. When america distracted, the world is less safe. We cant sit there and act like this is september 10th. Weve got to get it together and remember what it felt like september 12th, because weve got a lot of threats around us and a lot of chaos around us and we need some strength and stability. And again ill say, we need a new Generational Leader to right this ship. Ambassador nikki haley, thanks so much for joining us. Appreciate it. House republicans have finally chosen another nominee to be House Speaker, but is there any way he can get 217 votes . Im not so sure. Well ask republican congressman dan crenshaw of texas, next. Welcome back to State Of The Union as israel prepares for what its calling a new phase in its war against hamas. Here in the United States, the House Of Representatives is in utter chaos as House Republicans continue to struggle to elect a House Speaker. Congress could be called upon to pass an aid package for israel as soon as this week, but its not clear that congress can actually do that without a House Speaker, and its also not clear that they will have a House Speaker, at least anytime soon. Joining me now is republican congressman, dan crenshaw of texas. Republicans, as you know, have not been able to choose a House Speaker for 12 days, for the first time in the history of the United States. And honestly, congressman, as an american, its kind of embarrassing. What message do you think it sends to the world during this time of crisis . Well, its not good. Theres no positive messages here. I dont want to give everybody the impression that its a giant crisis, either. I know sometimes it feels that way. This is democracy. Democracy is always pretty messy. I think what the real problem is, is that weve we have a lot of different process of democracy to take hold, within our own conference, which is that majority doesnt rule. Thats how Speaker Mccarthy was deposed. You only had 4 of our conference actually against him, and somehow he was deposed. Of course, the democrats made up the rest of that majority. Nobody blames them for this, because its just assumed theyre going to vote against the speaker. But thats how this stuff happens. Its not pretty. Theres real calls for changes in those internal rules that we abide by in the conference, but were going to get through it. Were going to get through it. Its really hard to screw up america, jake. A lot of people have been trying for well over 250 years, and were still at the top. So lets be optimistic. The current speaker nominee is congressman jim jordan of ohio, but 55 of your fellow republicans said theyre not going to support him on a floor vote. It seems like none of them will support him, and some of them dont want to reward the members of congress who have prompted this mess, who are part of the eight that got rid of mccarthy, or part of the 20 who opposed the more conservative spending bill. You know who im talking about. Do you think jordan is going to be able to get 2017 . Because it doesnt sound like from my reporting that hes going to. Nothings impossible, but its going to be really, really difficult, based on what im hearing. I dont have a gooded read on wt every Single Member is thinking. As you said, theres a lot of Different Reasons with different members. Its impossible for any member efour conference to get 217 true believers. 217 people who truly think youre the best, right . So we have a democratic process for a reason. You have a race and then somebody wins a majority. Its like a primary election. And i tell people all the time, if you dont like your primary candidate as a republican, you dont go voting for the democrat in the general election. Democrats, of course, dont do it either. And thats how this is supposed to run. Like i said, weve gotten away from that basic principle, and thats really killing us right now. So what i would really recommend to jordans allies, too, is a lot of them have mounted this High Pressure campaign. Theyre going to whip up twitter against the people who are against jordan. That is the dumbest way to support jordan. And im supporting jordan. Im going to vote for jordan. As someone who wants jim jordan, the dumbest thing you can do is to continue pissing off those people and entrench them. When i ask people who are taking that tact, im like, did that work on you, when you were one of the 20 against mccarthy and everybody was bashing you . Did that entrench you or make you see the light . Come on, people. Everybodys got to grow up, get it together. If theres differences, lets sort them out. I dont think we should take it to the floor or have that play out. You know, people are like, its going to be more public, and then we can have pressure its already pretty public. Its not net at this point. So, you know, need to have cool heads prevail, talk about it, see what people want. See what has made people angry. And lets see if jordan can be the leader we need him to be, and help people through those issues. Yeah. Theres a good piece in the times today about that pressure campaign, about people like Congresswoman Luna and amy kremer and farright media talking about how theyre going to push people, how are you going to answer this question . And i think youre right. People will be like, what . Shut up if it doesnt go to jordan twitters not real life. And like, i think its fair to say i think there are going to be 20 to 30 republicans that dont like jordan, and you really only need five. What happens next . Is there not just a consensus candidate who might not be everybodys first choice, but hes just like a decent consensus guy, like tom cole, tom elmmmer. I mean, why not . Its hard with hypotheticals right now. Theyre not running, okay. Theyre not even talking about running. Those names do come up, right, because they are in leadership and theyve been around a while. They havent made a ton of enemies. Thats why their names come up. But people find reason to become enemies in politics, jake. Youve been doing this a long time. You know that, you see it all the time. And its exhausting. I could say your name and immediately, and immediately, 30 people would say, no, you know what i mean . I wont. Dont worry, i wont. Yeah, no and youre lying and people are like, you could ask them, why dont you like him . Well, i dont know, you know, i heard, whatever. Theres manufactured divisions its like a central tenant in modern politics. People will find reasons, and maybe thats because they want to extract personal favors. And people talk about the establishment all the time, jake. I think the democrats have an establishment. They have centralized control. They can make people do things. By definition, you dont have an establishment if 4 can depose your speaker. By definition, you dont have an establishment was get more popular by bucking the establishment. It negates the existence of the establishment. So we have a very different dynamic here. Its democracy, its messy, were going to get through it. I heard one hypothetical so after the next so jordan doesnt get it, and i should also note, there are republicans who dont like how he was kind of like one of the conspirators on the attempt to overturn the reelection, there was that whole osu thing, but there are people who thinks he has a lot of baggage. And somebody else tries and doesnt get it. I heard this hypothetical where someone is like, lets bring mccarthy back, and either that happens or mchenley gets it by default. Is that possible, do you think . Anythings possible. These are very unlikely. Mccarthy has to actually want to run. Theres out of protest, some members will vote for mccarthy. He has no intention of running. Jordan has been a true ally to mcmccarthy. At least from everything ive seen and what mccarthy is saying now. And what i would remind amount of the members who are against jordan, you know, because his reputation proceeds him. But his reputation has changed over time. He has become part of the solution, not part of the problem. He has long since been part of the solution. A lot of good conversations with him, ive gotten to know him. Theres a reason i support him. Giving mchenry additional powers, that still requires a vote, you know . And what kind of powers . At a certain point, youre just electing a speaker. He doesnt want that. Hes asking us not to do that. He confined the congressional subpoena and trying to get pence to overturn the electoral votes. But a lot of them did that. If i held that grudge thats twothirds of the conference. Thats an excellent poison. I was on an island there. I hear you. Congressman crenshaw, always good to see you, sir. Thank you so much. Coming up next, their lives were forever changed by the brutality of hamas, but those who lost the most eight days ago, well, they have a message for all of us that you might want to hear. A warning of some graphic video as we take stock of this awful week. Eight days ago terrorists with hamas invaded israel and slaughtered hundreds of innocent people. Hundreds. Seniors at a bus stop, babies in their cribs, little kids at home, young people at a music festival. It was the deadliest day for the jewish people since the holocaust. And none of this was about liberating the innocent people of gaza from the oppression of the israeli and egyptian blockade of gaza. That began after hamas, which the u. S. And e. U. Classifies a terrorist group, after hamas took control of gaza in 2007 and refused to disavow violence and recognize israel. The people of gaza, indeed deserve, to live without a blockade. They deserve to live in freedom with democracy and human rights and without fear of their government. Which hamas denies them. If any of this were about freedom and rights, why would hamas have slaughtered, for example, danielle waldman. Danielle was 24. She was at the music festival. Do you know who her dad is. He is a. L. Waldman. An israeli tech ceo who had employees in the west bank in gaza to improve relations. Here is im talking to erin burnett literally hours after he found out his beloved danielle had been killed. I wa i want to talk about peace. I was one of the first persons that have employed palestinian employees we have treated them the same as israeli hoping for peace. Even today our hand is reaching out for peace. We want to learn to live together. Not to continue killing each other. And this is al instagram feed. Please post this on your social feeds, he writes. Every day this man, netanyahu, sits in his chair as Prime Minister, will cause suffering to all sides, he writes. If any of this were about freedom and human rights, why would hamas have killed hide katzman, a peace activist who opposed the government for being too oppressive of palestinians. I spoke with his sibling. The most pofimportant thing Me And My Brother is that his death wouldnt be used to kill innocent people. And sadly my government our government my government is using cynically people to just kill, like it is going to bring us like security, but of course, it is not security, because they always tell us if were going to kill enough palestinians or their going to, so it is going to be better for us. But of course, it never brings us peace and never brings us better life, it just brings more and more terror and more and more People Killed like my brother. One of the most zwush disturbing participants of watching this unfold from the United States is watching students on College Campuses here embrace this symbol of the hamas Terrorist Paragliders who slaughtered innocent women and babies an the elderly. The symbol, here is one from the university of washington in seattle. But theyve cropped up all over College Campuses. Im wondering what you think when you see your fellow americans and, again, protesting for palestinian rights. Great. Do it. Those people deserve human rights. But when you see people embracing the symbol of the hamas murderers, who murdered your cousin, what do you think . Well, first off, it is extremely shocking to see. And i dont know if these are misled or if they actually believe what theyre supporting is helping the palestinians, but it is simply not. Theyre supporting their own cause. The fight that hamas is trying to fight isnt going to get the palestinian anywhere. Theyre goal is to annihilate the state of israel. They say it and they openly say it and theyre proud of it and that is not going to bring dignity to the palestinians. I i think it is in everyones best interest to get hamas out of there and build a middle east for everyone. We could all pray that the humanity of those three we just heard from will ultimately rule the day. Not the brutality and barbarism that we saw from hamas eight days ago and not the death of innocents that we continue to see in israel and in gaza. I wish you shall om, sal om, may peace be upon all of us. All of us. Ill be back at noon eastern with live interviews with the israeli ambassador to the United StatesMichael Herzog and senator marco rubio of florida. That is in the noon eastern right here on cnn. Thank you for spending your Sunday Morning with us. Fareed zakaria gps, starts next