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Kevin mccarthy says bring it on. And by it i mean a fox news on contributor ship. Sources telling cnn that just ousted speaker Will Leave Congress before the end of his term, perhaps as soon as a new speaker is elected. This as donald trump endorses a man once called a legislative terrorist by a past republican speaker to be the next speaker. Also ahead, eight years after donald trump came down the escalator and said mexico is sending rapists to the u. S. , in a new interview, trump says undocumented immigrants are, quote, poisoning the blood of our country. Well get reaction from one of his republican president ial rivals. Plus a bold message exclusively to cnn from a female activist behind bars in iran who was just awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. Welcome to the lead. Why bother to continue to represent the good people of barks bakersfield, california when there is money to be made . We start today on capitol hill. Moments ago sources told cnn that ousted House Speaker Kevin Mccarthy is expected to resign from congress before the end of his term. He is expected to stick around through the election for his replacement which is expected to start next week. We dont know when it will end. Those same sources say mccarthy does not plan to get involved in the speakers race where the two leading candidates are jim jordan of ohio, current chairman of the house judiciary committee, and Steve Scalise of louisiana. The current House Majority leader. As of now, neither jordan nor scalise has claimed to have the magic 218 votes required to become the speaker. Scalise has been working the phones and courting gop lawmakers privately. While jordan is publicly making the case that he is the best messenger for the Republican Party ahead of the 2024 election where his close ally donald trump is the frontrunner for the president ial nomination. But in the last day or so, a couple of prominent republicans have been issuing a stark warning about jim jordan, specifically about his role in attempting to overturn the president ial election of 2020. Jim jordan knew more about what donald trump had planned for january 6 than any moesh of the house of representatives. Jim jordan was involved in was part of the conspiracy in which donald trump was engaged as he attempted to overturn the election. That was former congresswoman liz cheney on wednesday in minnesota. But cheney is not the only republican sounding the alarm. Here is Cassidy Hutchinson the former top aide to white house top of staff Mark Meadowses of the trump white house. And of course the star witness of the january 6 committees public hearings. Jim jordan was privy to nearly everything if not everything about and pertaining to january 6. Jim jordan cant be trusted with the constitution. Jim jordan scored former President Trumps endorsement early this morning which could as no surprise to anyone if you take a closer look at the Great Lengths that jordan went to to try to keep trump in power after he lost the election. Here is jordan in harrisburg, pennsylvania attending a Stop The Steal rally two days after election day in the weeks and months after that, jordan went on various right wing Media Outlets where he attempted to sow distrust in the 2020 election and made baseless claims of election fraud. Exactly what the democrats wanted. They knew President Trump was going to win on Election Night but they wanted to keep looking for and counting ballots until they got over the top. Jordans name appears throughout the bipartisan report from the House Select Committee investigating january 6. The report says that jordan attended numerous post election meetings, senior white house officials and Rudy Giuliani discussing how to challenge the election results. The report also details how jordan led a Conference Call on january 2 discussing how to delay the joint Session Of Congress on january 6 to certify the electoral vote. Jordan and trump spoke later that night for 18 minutes according to the report. The night before january 6, jim jordan texted mark meadows and jordan said the Vice President pence should call out all electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all. We know that is a pow thats right Vice President does not actually have. Thats right Vice President does not actually have. On january 6 jim jordan talked to the president at least twice. And in the final report the committee concluded that jordan was a significant player in the conspiracy who, quote, appears to have had materially relevance communications with donald trump or others in the white house but the committee did not know about the substance of those communications because jordan, quote, failed to comply with the select committees subpoenas, unq unquote. So what happens to the country if jim jordan is elected speaker of the house. Liz cheney paints a pretty dire picture. If the republicans decide that jim jordan should be speaker of the house, there would no longer be any possible way to argue that group of elected republicans could be counted on to defend the constitution. Cnn reached out to jordans office for reaction to these comments from cheney and hutchinson and from the january 6 select committee. We did not get a response. If we get one, well share it with you. Lauren fox is starting off our Coverage Today with a closer look at how the man once called a legislative terrorist by former republican House Speaker john boehner of his Fellow State Of Ohio has become a frontrunner for the speakership. Look, i like the job i got now. Never wanted to do this job. But someone has to. Who can bring the Team Together and can communicate to the country. Reporter jim jordan once a thorn in the side of gop leaders now vying to lead them as House Speaker after Kevin Mccarthy was booted from the role. I disagree with, you know, what took place, but those guys are friends of mine. Reporter the ohio congressman, chairman of the powerful judiciary committee. The fix is in. Reporter and known for his aggressive pursuit of an Impeachment Inquiry into president biden. This inquiry is so darn important. Reporter it boosted his authority within the gop conference. And earned him the endorsement of donald trump. Jordan voted against certifying the 2020 election. Americans instinctively know there was something wrong with this election. Reporter and was involved in conversations with the white house around the time of january 6. Including a 10 minute call with trump the morning of the attack. I talked to the president a couple times that day but i dont remember the times. Concerns that are out there reporter republicans nominated him to the january 6 committee. But then House Speaker nancy pelosi rejected him. Prior to his time in congress, jordan served as an Assistant Coach for ohio states wrestling program. Coming under fire after several former wrestlers claimed that jordan knew about the sexual abuse allegations involving Team Doctor Richard strauss. Six former wrestlers say they were present when jordan heard of or responded to sexual miss konl ducts complaints. He heard what i said. Reporter jordan has denied that he knew anything about strausss abuse when he worked at ohio state. Strauss died by suicide if 2005. Goif i had known there was abuse, i would have helped out their athletes. Reporter an independent report did not specifically name jordan. Or any Wrestling Coach at ohio state. But it did say 22 coaches were aware of rumors and complaints about strauss. On capitol hill, jordan made a name for position during the ben sga benghazi hearings. But he also gained a Reputation Assage at a timer for party leaders. As a Founding Member of the House Freedom caucus, he was part of the group that often tangled with then speaker john boehner. Prompting boehner to later call him a legislative terrorist. Now jordan says as speaker he is the only one that will be able to unite a deeply divided party. I think that i can do that. If i why think i could do that, i wouldnt run. Reporter lauren fox, cnn, capitol hill. Our thanks to lauren for that. Lets discuss this. Congressman, lets start with you. Do you share the opinion of Congresswoman Cheney and Cassidy Hutchinson that jim jordan is not committed to democracy and the constitution . I absolutely do. I mean, all you have to do is look at his record. Look at january 6. And everything leading up to that. Look at you played the sound bite where he says how did 74 Million People not be enough to win an election. So well keep looking until we find something. That is not how the constitution works. And the thing that you need to understand about jim jordan is he is a true believer, but he truly believes that the democrats, or the left, is an enemy of america and he will do anything even extra constitutionally to defeat them. That is his general belief. He believes that he is truly fighting the dark forces and the constitution in some cases is an impediment. It is very dangerous for this country. Very dangerous for the house. And ill just say this to my republican colleagues, really dangerous to the future of the Republican Party especially if you are the party that still ascribes to lincoln, reagan, et cetera. Congresswoman, he gave his view of what jim jordan thinks about the left. That is you. What do you think . Adam can tell that you our bipartisan january 6 committee worked very professionally and in an apolitical way to get to the truth of what happened on january 6 and leading up to it. And what we found, i agree with adam, i mean, jor began was up to his neck in this plot for all we could see, he refused to provide us the information that we needed. But it looked from the context that we could identify that he was heavily involved in the plot to overturn the constitution. And so i dont think that that is what america needs. Certainly i take offense to the idea that im not patriotic. I work hard to defend the constitution. Congressman, are you surprised that Kevin Mccarthy according to our sources plans to leave congress now that he is no longer speaker . No, im not surprised because he has always been about himself. It has always been about becoming speaker. That is his that was his instate since the day he took the oath i guess in 20006 since he was elected. Everything he did was to become speaker. He became speaker, but he obviously was a failed speaker as we see now and i dont think that his ego would allow him to stick around for the next year and a half. I would actually encourage him to resign now so he is not there to vote for somebody like jim jordan, force jim jordan to, you know, try to win 218 with one less vote. This is going to leave just think about it from a selfish perspective, the republican majority will now be down to whatever it will be, like three or Something Like that, but again, Kevin Mccarthy cares about one person and that is Kevin Mccarthy. That is the whole reason kevin went from the day after january 6 calling it what it was, an insurrection, to basically three weeks later putting the paddles on donald trump down in maralago and resurrecting his political career. And congresswoman, there is a lot of republicans trying to blame democrats for Speaker Mccarthy losing his job. Obviously you all voted in favor of the motion to vacate, although it is obviously also a tradition that the Minority Party never votes for the Opposition Party to be speaker. You told your democratic colleagues that you would resign before you assumed Kevin Mccarthy. What is your response to him resigning from congress . Assumed mccarthy. What is your response to him resigning from congress . I dont know kevin that well, but he is part of the trump conspiracy to overturn our democracy and consequently not someone that i could support. That he is resigning, i dont know about. But ill say this, his predecessor and mentor in the congress, bill thomas, very conservative guy who i didnt always degree with, but an honest conservative, bill has now rejected his former protege Kevin Mccarthy and has spoken out against him because i think that his character is lacking. His character to go to trump to try to adhere to the plan to overturn the constitution for personal ambition and now i guess to leave for money. So not a good look. We saw Something Like that play out in missouri also with senator danforth, very conservative Statesman Character rejecting josh hawley. Last word, congressman kin kinzinger, what is your word of haveis to anybody of the center right more moderate conservatives like yourself trying to decide what do in terms of the jordan scalise race . I say hold out. Hold out, Play The Game that they played to depose Kevin Mccarthy, you will not support somebody like jim jordan ever under any circumstances. And particularly because this will be very close to the end of u. S. Aid for ukraine and there are real impacts to this. And also the idea that the democrats didnt Save Mccarthy . I served in congress for 12 years. There wouldnt have been a single republican vote to save nancy pelosi in a similar situation. It is absolutely insane to try to put this dysfunction on the democrats. This is owned by the march to the far right and the Republican Party, a once great party that is lost and trending toward fascism. Thank you both for being here. Despite jim jordans political baggage, House Republicans want to keep it behind closed doors. But a republican uproar helped shut down a proposed fox debate over the speaker contest, that is ahead. And later, this horrific scene when an odor led authorities to a colorado funeral home. Stay with us. Back with the Politics Lead and the news that Kevin Mccarthy is expected to resign from congress before the end of his term. This as fox was all set to host a joint forum monday with the republican candidates for House Speaker, but just as soon as that was announced, it was canceled because both declared candidates, jim jordan and Steve Scalise, said no, sth , they we going to participate. This is after reports of major backlash from fellow republicans to the televised debate idea from House Republicans. Lets discuss all of this with charlie dent and also fred up ton, one of only ten republicans who voted to impeach donald trump after january 6. Congressman upton, what is your response to the news that Kevin Mccarthy is expected to leave congress after he has been e ejected as speaker . I think that was a given. Former sferer speakers dont li stick around. Im surprised that nancy pelosi is still there after losing the gavel. Kevin mccarthy doesnt want to walk down the aisle and see the guys in their normal spots. So he will leave pretty quickly. He has a lot of different opportunities. He is not used to doing constituent service, so time to get to do something else. So that is you know, completely understandable. Congressman dent, lets talk about the canceled Speaker Forum on fox. A source tells cnn that they ultimately agreed it would not be wise to participate. And kevin hern the congressman from oklahoma considering a bid for speaker posted we need to make this decision aa conference not on tv. The Reference Conference needs a family discussion. What made fox or anybody who was in favor of this think that the public or that the members of congress, the republicans, were clamoring for a televised debate over a position that they cant even vote on or agree upon right now . Well, i had mentioned on television earlier that i thought that having a televised debate on Fox News Issen would of the dumbest ideas ive ever heard just for this reason. I knew republican members would be outraged. Again, as kevin hern said, these are family conversations. Not to be aired in public. And further, what would they negotiate away on fox news . Were they going to make commitments on ukraine, is that condition of becoming speaker or what kind of idiotic things might they have thrown away on television that these conversations have to happen among the members, not in this wider audience. So im glad they scrapped it. But it was absolutely boneheaded idea to think that

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