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"cnn news central" starts right now. ♪ breaking news on the economy, a genuine wow. a huge number of jobs added last month, almost double economists expectations. donald trump a throwing his support behind a candidate for house speaker and it is not himself. what trump's complete and total support means for the future of republicans in the house. national secrets exposed. the new reporting that trump allegedly disclosed details about nuclear subs to a mar-a-lago club member. sara is off, i'm john berman with kate bolduan. this is "cnn news central." ♪ and the breaking news this morning, big numbers are coming out, a soaring jobs report. now 33 consecutive months of job growth, the united states added 336,000 jobs last month. unemployment rate holding at 3.8%. the report is far better than what economists were expecting, almost double what the expectation was out there. the new data also comes as tens of thousands of auto union workers continue their massive and growing strike against the big three u.s. auto makers and we are going to be hearing from president joe biden himself speaking about the economy and this jobs report a little later this morning. let me bring in cnn's rahel solomon. looking at the numbers for us, you helped break the news this morning. once the report came out take us inside what's inside this top line. >> like john said, it was a wow, it was a shocker, a lot stronger than most people were expecting. twice what economists were expecting. put another way, over the last year or so the average monthly job gain was about 271,000. we are talking about even stronger than what we have seen. over the last week i can tell you that we have been getting different labor reports about whether the market was cooling, whether it was heating back up. this seems to indicate that it's continuing to increase. so 336 for the month of september but what's also important to note is that both july and august were revised higher to the tune of about 119,000 jobs. so the labor market even stronger than what we had been expecting. when we are looking at industries in terms of where you might see this most, we are talking about leisure and hospitality, that industry added about 100,000 jobs, 96,000, government added 73,000 and health care 41,000. there is a silver lining in terms of this is good news for the labor market for the american worker but in terms of inflation it's a little bit more complicated. but there was a silver lining in terms of the inflationary impact and that was wage growth. wage growth cooled to 0.2% on a monthly basis. the markets if you look at the markets right now they are not necessarily happy with this report, they are -- it is red across the screen. >> yeah. >> but what, then -- it is then a complicated picture and complicated question continues for the federal reserve and chairmen and what they do now and the continued efforts to try to reel in inflation. what does this do now? >> the markets are in the red because of the inflationary impact because of the fed. quickly, unemployment stayed at 3.8%, remained at 3.8%. we've been in this range of about 3.4 to 3.7, 3.8 for about 18 months, for about a year and a half. this is a very tight labor market, but in terms of what it means for the fed when we hear from jay powell november 1st is this suggests that we might see another rate hike. and they have already done so much. they have already hiked rates 11 meetings since march of 2022. so this indicates that there still might be room to go because the labor market and economy is still looking red hot. >> there's still forces that they are battling against. thanks for jumping on. appreciate it, rahel. >> a lot of jobs. it's a lot of jobs. a lot more than people were expecting. meanwhile, we're getting new reporting in this morning on the impact that donald trump's overnight endorsement of jim jordan is having on the speaker race. trump says he is throwing his complete and total support behind the house judiciary chair over house majority leader steve scalise. this is our jordan reacted to this. >> did donald trump call you and say, hey, story about -- >> i appreciate the president's endorsement, he is a leader of the party. he is going to be our presidential noom knee and i think he is going to be the next president so i'm appreciate that. we're focused also on -- the key thing o is our colleagues. we got from freedom caucus to people in the middle to committee chairs to jeff van drew who was democrat four years ago. we have all kinds of across the board support and we are going to keep working. >> right. cnn's kristen holmes following donald trump, lauren fox up on capitol hill. kristen, first to you. how did this happen and why? >> reporter: yeah, john, i mean, this came after a very chaotic day in which former president trump inserted himself into an already tumultuous situation with the republican caucus on capitol hill. he was floating the idea that he was going to travel to capitol hill to speak to republicans, which had a lot of gop house lawmakers, including some of his allies, a little bit concerned. they didn't think that was a good idea. he also did an interview in which he floated the idea that he would serve as interim speaker, not mentioning the fact that he would actually have to get the votes to do so. on that interview i'm told that some of his top advisers didn't know he was doing that. the same advisers that have been telling me and my colleagues all week that trump was never seriously considering these ideas of him serving as interim speaker. so late last night he did go on truth social, he posted about jim jordan . he wanted to get out there, no surprise trump endorsed jordan, jordan led investigations into joe biden, he has been a staunch ally of donald trump and unlike steve scalise he has endorsed him for president in 2024. >> let's find out what, if any, impact this is having up on capitol hill. let's go to lauren fox. lauren, there you go. lauren, tell us. >> reporter: to some extent, john, obviously those republicans and conservatives who would be looking at a trump endorsement as a potential reason to get behind a candidate, many of them were eyeing jim jordan to begin with because of jordan's staunch commitment to donald trump, because he has worked so closely with the former president and because he's then leading some of those key investigations on capitol hill. also fighting to open that impeachment inquiry into joe biden. now, there is a question about how jim jordan is going to appeal to more moderate republican members and members running in swing states that joe biden carried in the last presidential election. and he's making a pitch that he is the guy that can unite the republican conference because he's friendly with the eight rebels who voted to oust house speaker kevin mccarthy. he's also arguing that he is the guy who can message most effectively in terms of making clear what the republican and -- the problems that we have internally they don't go away with a new speaker but the real question the members have is how do we get things back on track. and the reason i've been able to build such a strong base of support over these last few days that's been growing is that i have a long proven record as somebody known how to unify republicans. >> and the race is obviously already heating up. things are going to intensify next week when lawmakers return to capitol hill. on monday night the republican conference will have a meeting to discuss this issue, we also know that bret baier will interview some of the candidates. on tuesday there is going to be a candidate forum and on wednesday a potential vote behind closed doors for the republican conference. now, whether or not they actually go to the floor next week, that remains an open question. obviously right now the fight is to get 218 republicans, something neither of these candidates have locked down yet. john? >> it will be three days of extraordinary interest, three days at least. we will see if it goes beyond that. lauren fox on capitol hill, our thanks to kristen who will mts as well. >> joining us for more former republican congresswoman comstock. how much of a boost do you think a trump endorsement is of jim jordan in this speaker's rate now? >> listen, we know donald trump always endorses the person who sucks up the most to them. we also know from last year that the people who trump endorses had a pretty bad track record. so, you know, in terms of a general election. so it doesn't mean you can't get the nomination, certainly, you know, in terms of a nomination in getting the role you might get it, but then your performance might not be very good, as we saw last year in the elections. so in terms of performance, i think if you are steve scalise, you can sort of be the brian kemp in in race and point out things like steve scalise has raised $53 million just in the last cycle for his colleagues and has been generous across the whole party, versus, you know, jim jordan who usually wasn't a fundraiser, you know, i think over the past ten years he's raised a fraction of that and only recently has given money, but it's usually just to those far right people. so it hasn't been that prolific fundraiser. jim jordan was very involved in january 6, you know, trying to shut down the elections and probably was one of the closest people involved in that, and who knows, he could be involved in some of those cases with donald trump. he's never -- jim jordan has never passed a bill, you know, steve scalise has been very involved as a legislator in helping his colleagues pass bills. so i think when you -- you know, it's notable in the endorsement that donald trump mostly just talked about, you know, how he's helped him. so i think steve scalise has a record he can run on and these things are very internal, probably not good for trump to have scotten involved. so i think people will look at overall how this is going to help their elections and donald trump has been sucking up all the money and using it as his defense fund and people are very concerned about next year's elections and say if you are one of those 18 biden seats, those swing seats, jim jordan has been on the far right, ask not going to be helping you and helping the party face when he is the person who even matt gaetz said his impeachment hearings were a disaster. he said that the other day on the floor. so, you know, this is probably not the best face for the party. he's a very small section of the party and he also as we're facing a shutdown was the person who was involved in sort of authoring and driving the biggest shutdown with donald trump back in 2019. so we're facing a lot of serious things, things like ukraine, things where we need to bring people together, work with the senate and since jim jordan has never passed bills he doesn't have those relationships -- >> i want to ask you about the bringing people together bit of this. bringing people together, because that's what steve scalise was kind of getting at in that sound bite, how do we get things back on track. i want to play for you something that jim jordan actually told manu raju just this morning. listen to this. >> i think this race comes down to two questions, i said this question, who can unite the conference, who can also unite -- i guess three questions, who can unite the conference, who can unite conservative republicans in our party around the country and then who can go tell the country what we're doing and why it's important to them, to their -- to their family, to their business, to their community. >> this would be -- maybe the same question even if kevin mccarthy still had the gavel, barbara, but do you think anyone can do that in the republican conference right now? >> well, no, it's going to be a huge challenge and it may be we don't even have a speaker next week and -- you know, you have these eight people who have held the party hostage so the idea that, oh, you have to pick jim jordan or these eight guys are still -- and gals are going to hold the party hostage, i think you have to break through that and say, no, we can't have -- you know, you have to pick this person or you will have these eight people hold the party hostage. that's unacceptable. so i think you have to, you know, have somebody who is going to, you know, move past that and i think steve scalise is somebody who is trusted, but if it's going to be somebody else, it can't be somebody -- we can't say let's further drill down on having a far right person who, you know, doesn't know the full conference, who hasn't, you know, been in leadership and hasn't worked across the aisle and doesn't have relationships with the senate or, you know, on the full breadth of issues that you have to deal with in leadership. things like ukraine, which jim jordan has already said he won't consider, something that senate republicans are very strongly in support of. and somebody who usually has said it's my way or the highway. someone who has never -- you know, if ever -- supported a budget. somebody who hasn't worked collaboratively with colleagues. i mean, i think that would be a big problem and i think when you look at the election denialism that jim jordan engaged in it sends a very dangerous message that the party is going to be full on maga and not have, you know, any place for anybody who is not an election denier and that pretty much would -- you know, i mean, for people who, you know, i think if you are a democrat who would like to see the demise of the republicans for next year this would probably send a pretty strong message that the party is going far right -- >> the big question is -- and we've heard that from republicans even in the house right now, which is the hangover and fallout from kevin mccarthy being ousted, what does that mean for the republican majority and how much does it put it at risk come next year? it's good to see you, thank you so much, barbara comstock. >> it will be very dangerous. >> john? new reporting this morning that donald trump disclosed sensitive information about nuclear submarines to a member of his mar-a-lago resort. a russian drone attack hits apartment buildings in ukraine overnight, one of the deadliest 24-hour stretches in months as more and more republicans are now refuse to go provide more aid to ukraine. and a wisconsin man arrested after showing up at the state capitol with a handgun demanding to see the governor and then coming back the same day with an assault rifle. a new round of deadly russian attacks in ukraine. the latest killing a 10-year-old child and his grandmother. dozens more people were wounded. the missile attack hit residential buildings in kharkiv early this morning. just look at that. it also follows a massive drone attack overnight on the port of odesa. ukraine says several trucks caught fire when a grain storage facility was hit there. we've also learned more about the massive death toll that is rising once again in one of the deadliest attacks against civilians since the invasion began. more than 50 people were killed in the missile attack. that's one of every six residents living there. dozens were at a café to mourn a local soldier, actually, when the building was attacked and you can see t i mean, just absolutely destroyed. the anguish can be seen everywhere there. you can see it even in this man's face. and we're told that he's mourning over his wife's body near the side of the road. cnn's fred pleitgen is live there for us and joins us now. fred, what are you seeing there? the pictures are just so saddening, but what are you hearing and learning about this attack and what comes now? >> reporter: it's absolutely tragic, kate. we were here yesterday shortly after this attack happened and it was a scene of absolute carnage, there was debris everywhere, bodies still strewn everywhere and obviously the first responders were trying to come to terms with the situation. i can show you now as we are sort of a day after this attack took place, you can see that this building has pretty much been reduced to just the supporting walls, there isn't much left of t we can also see that the first responders who we saw here yesterday, the search and rescue crews, they quickly realized that there was just no hope of finding anybody alive under all of this. so this very quickly turned from a search and rescue to a recovery operation, then obviously as you can see clearing operation as well. if you look over there that's pretty much what's left of what used to be this café and supermarket. i would say it was less a café, more sort of a little events venue because they did have that funeral wake for that soldier that was going on. if you look on top there you can see what seems to have been a refrigerator for ice cream. so pretty clear that this wasn't any sort of military facility. that's what the folks here talking to us are telling us as well. they say at that funeral wake it was for a soldier but that soldier had been killed more than a year ago and his body was being repatriated to mere so the local folks were coming to take part in that funeral wake and that's when this happened. i've been spiking to people who lived here and they say pretty much everyone in this village have lost someone in the attack that happened last night. people were breaking down and trying because they lost so many of their friends. there is a list going around with people who have been killed and pretty much everybody who lives here have found someone killed in here. you can see also on the other side over there there is still a car that was badly damaged, there is a makeshift memorial back there that's been set up. this entire village completely devastated. obviously the ukrainian government also extremely angry about all of this. the president of this country, volodymyr zelenskyy, he was in spain yesterday and of course the ukrainians right now are dealing with some of that uncertainty coming from the united states about the future of weapons deliveries or whether or not there could be delays and one of the things that zelenskyy says is that, look, look at this and he says one thing that the ukrainians need more of and can't have enough of is air defense systems. let's listen n. >> translator: i believe that today it is impossible to protect people, especially during the winter, except by air defense. to protect people who died absolutely tragically because of this inhuman terrorist attack. 50 civilians were killed during the funeral. russia does this every day in the kharkiv region and only air defense can help. and so europe has a lot of its own issues, different challenges, but from ukraine's point of view, the key topic was air defense. >> reporter: so there you have volodymyr zelenskyy the president of ukraine talking specifically about how important air defense was. of course, he said that something like this happens every day and we are in that same region, we had this attack that happened on thursday and then obviously overnight that attack that happened there in kharkiv, so certainly the ukrainians very concerned about their air defense capabilities, kate. >> fred, thank you so much for the reporting, as always. john? with us now cnn military analyst retired air force colonel cedric leighton. colonel, we appreciate you being with us. i want to talk about the timing of this attack on hroza. dozens and dozens of civilians killed, an attack on a grocery store. the timing of this at the very moment when republicans in the u.s. are talking about blocking new aid to ukraine. what does that tell you about how much vladimir putin fears or frankly does not fear now international outrage over his actions? >> yeah, i think, john, good morning, i think he's looking at this basically as if he's really in control of the stage right now. he is thinking that he can act with impunity, he thinks that he can make any decision, a tactical or strategic, without fear of any consequences from the west. and right now he's gambling that the dysfunction in the u.s. congress is going to carry over into our ability to provide aid to ukraine and if we don't provide the air defenses that volodymyr zelenskyy has been asking for, that's going to create a real problem for the people of ukraine, especially during the wintertime. >> it is interesting to think about that basically the impact here at hroza what we're seeing here might be the impact of what's happening in washington right now, some of the dysfunction in congress. i want to ask about another development that hasn't received quite as much attention over the last few days which is that the russians have pulled most, if not all of their black sea fleet from sevastopol right here all the way back here across the black sea there. we have satellite imagery, you can see this is the newport -- not the newport, but this is where they are now, all of these ships lined up in port here and the effect of this is basically this whole side of the black sea, which includes the straits in turkey right now, ceding it in a way to ukraine, allowing ukraine to have free passage there. has ukraine won this stage of the battle for the black sea? >> temporarily, yes, and it's really interesting. you're reporting out exactly correctly, john, that this allows for a de facto corridor for ukraine to export its grain to the rest of the world, should those third world countries or sub-saharan countries that require a lot of ukrainian food stuffs, and this is a major deal because what's going to happen here is that it's going to be far more difficult for the russians to interdict, to interrupt those kinds of shipments. it's also going to be more difficult for the russian toss mount attacks. it's still possible for them to do that as demonstrated last night, but they will find it more difficult to mount attacks against places like odesa and other southern port cities on the ukrainian coast. >> it is interesting and you can look at the map here again what this allows the ukrainians to do and what they have been doing is they've been using these shipping lanes all the way here hugging the coast and going down through the straits there, and now easier for them with the russian fleet all the way on that side. i want to bring up one other development that we've seen reportedly over the last few weeks. this is the southern front, the so-called southern front in ukraine and it's being discussed that the russians are employing what's called an elastic defense. they have all these lines of trenches around here. what is an elastic defense, cedric? >> so basically it's flexible defense. what it allows the russians to do is to pull back force toss a predetermined line, then they can use that line to mount even greater defensive operations than they had before. it also allows them to give ground tactically in the hopes that they will regain that ground or be able to potentially even encircle the advancing ukrainian forces. so it allows the russian toss do several different things, among them in essence conserve some of their artillery forces and some of their manpower and personnel. now, on the other hand, they don't seem to be very good at executing that last part of t but it does give them the opportunity to in essence fight the ukrainians in a greater attrition than they have so far. >> colonel cedric leighton, always great to have you on. thank you for your help this morning. kate? coming up for us, did donald trump share nuclear submarine secrets with a foreign cardboard tycoon and why the special counsel's office now has that tycoon on its potential witness list. and a major move from president biden on the migrant crisis, now restarting deportations of venezuelans who cross into the united states illegally. more on this new cnn reporting just ahead. we will be back. is it possible my network could take my business to the next level? it is with comcast business. powering all your devices with gig-speed wifi. and you get fast downloads and uploads. pick it up! pick it up! oh we got this! because it's powered by the next generation 10g network. more speed for your business? it's not just possible. it's happening. get started for $59.99 a month for 12 months. plus, ask how to get an $800 prepaid card with a qualifying internet bundle. comcast business, powering possibilities. this morning new reporting on donald trump nuclear secrets and a cardboard tycoon who is a mar-a-lago club member. according to abc news months after leaving the white house, trump allegedly discussed potentially sensitive information about u.s. nuclear submarines with a member of his mar-a-lago club, this australian billionaire who then allegedly shared the information with scores of others. the australian billionaire is anthony pratt who runs one of the world's biggest packaging companies, a lot of cardboard. cnn has confirmed he was interviewed by federal prosecutors and on their potential witness list. sources tell abc news according to pratt's account in 2021 he told trump that australia should start buying their subs from the united states. that's when trump allegedly leaned and discretely told pratt the supposed exact number of nuclear warheads u.s. subs routinely carry and exactly how close they can get to a russian sub without being detected. in emails and conversations after pratt relayed the information to six journalists, 11 employees, 10 australian officials and 3 former australian prime ministers. so by this account that information it got out there. in response to abc trump's team maintains, quote, they did nothing wrong. kate? >> joining us now is juliette kayyem cnn's senior national security analyst. if what is laid out and john sums it up perfectly, what do you think of this, first and foremost? >> so, i mean, it's obviously in the outrage zone but it actually is also very dangerous. so, you know, we have a tendency now to sort of think trump just does things like this. i want to put it in perspective or at least chronological perspective for viewers. so we think of australia most people don't know it's one of our major intelligence partners in the partnership called five eyes, it also is part of a deal just sealed by the biden administration of the selling of nuclear submarines to australia to count our -- our nuclear submarines to counter the china threat so it's a key player in geopo geopolitics. this billionaire is well-known in australia, he has lots of contacts as we've seen, journalists, prime ministers and others, is not -- you know, joins mar-a-lago and everyone -- if you are a member of mar-a-lago now, you know what you're going to get out of it. you're not there for the golf, you are there for the closeness to donald trump who is more than willing to abide with two pieces of information that are not public for a reason, how many nuclear weapons are on each of these submarines, in other words, what's their capacity, and second how close they can get to enemy territory whether it's russia or china without being detected. those numbers are -- if an adversary knows them, they will be able to calculate what counterstrategy they would want against us. this was not just him being careless, this is purposeful. >> is one set of facts more troubling or, as you said, dangerous than the other? sharing the exact number of warheads that u.s. subs typically carry or how close they can get to a russian sub without being detected? >> i think it's the detection issue more. i mean, obviously no one wants sort of these weapons to be utilized. it's going to be the proximity issue because -- so think about -- think about an adversary aligning its strategy around what they know now, excuse me, which is can we get our submarines out without being detected by the u.s. submarines. i'm not thinking about russian anymore, i'm thinking about china. so that is the kind of information that you would want as an adversary because then you can plan your tactics as many of our military analysts have said. i think the second issue is regardless of the specific number, right, our allies including australia but also the uk, other members of five eyes, nato, now know that that number is out there. they also know that trump, unless something happens, is likely to be the nominee. so if you are aligning your intelligence sharing apparatus now in anticipation of what the united states could look like a year from now, you are paying attention about how much information about your own systems you would want the united states to know now, with the possibility that donald trump could be president again. so this is not about 2001 and what trump did -- >> that's what i was going to ask you because a lot of the documents -- >> that was a long time ago. >> a lot of -- if you want to talk about the documents investigation is looking in the past, right? documents that he should have obviously turned in, that he kept and that's where that investigation is, but something that you pointed out here to our producers which i thought was interesting is that you don't think this is a story about the past, this is actually -- this element of this story is about the future. >> it's about right now. i mean, honestly if you see this story and you wake up and you are an intelligence agency that is sharing information with us, maybe you trust this team or you trust the career civil servants because you know that the political -- the white house won't share it, isn't known to share it, but now you're calculating about, you know, they look way ahead, right? you're calculating what could happen to the united states if donald trump gets the nomination and, remember, if he gets the nomination he begins to get intelligence briefings at that moment. it doesn't wait until he's president because if he wins you want him to be ready on day one. so access to information is going to be available to donald trump, secret service are going to be assigned to him as they -- not just as a former president but a future one, access to the intelligence apparatus will be afforded him in some measure. when and if he gets the nomination. so you're looking at a couple months, you know, less than a year where our allies are now going to assess how much do you want to share? so everyone has to think of this as a future story, not just the past story. >> juliette kayyem, thanks as always for coming in. >> australia part of the five eyes. the cardboard guy, not so much. >> shocking. the biden administration is expanding the border wall, but the president says he's not happy about it. why he says he was forced into this decision. this morning president biden and his team are insisting that construction on a new section of border wall along the u.s. mexico boarder is not a change in policy, they say. the biden administration announced that it waived 26 federal laws to build 20 miles of border barriers in the rio grande valley. the funding comes from a trump era 2019 appropriate appreciations bill. now president biden says his hands are tied and he is required to use this money, despite his stance that border walls do not work. >> the money was appropriated for the border wall. i tried to get them to reappropriate -- to redirect that money. they didn't. they wouldn't. in the meantime there's nothing under the law other than they have to use the money for what it was appropriated. i can't stop that. >> cnn's priscilla alvarez joins us now. he's doing it but he doesn't want to, priscilla. >> that's right, john. that's really the resounding message from the administration over the course of yesterday and going into today, that these were funds that were appropriated in 2019, that they were going to -- they were face ago deadline and they had to use these funds that were only for the purpose of border barriers. so they had to do it. and the president that you are hearing there saying that he doesn't agree. we also got a pretty forceful statement from homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas yesterday who similarly said he doesn't agree with this, either. he doesn't think that the border wall is the answer, but the reality, john, is that you have a president who campaigned on not building an extra mile of wall when because of these funds they say they're going to have to do exactly that and up to 20 miles of it. >> and it comes during this same 24-hour period where there appears to be a shift in posture towards venezuelan migrants. explain what's going on here, priscilla. >> this is a major breakthrough. for years the u.s. hasn't been able to carry out regular deportation flights to venezuela and now starting this week they're going to do exactly that. here is why that's important. most of the border crossers that are crossing today are venezuelan. that is because there is a historic wave of venezuelaness across the western hemisphere, in fact, more than 7 million venezuelans have left that country. to give you some context, john, that is more people than have fled ukraine which is where there is an active war and it's economic and political turmoil that has pushed people to leave that country and many move north. that has been a unique challenge for this administration. just in the month of august they had more than 30,000 venezuelans at the u.s./mexico border, that number went up in september and is expected to continue to go up. this is a way for the administration to say we are going to levee consequences against this population and we are now going to deport them. and it sort of suggests a bit of a thawing of that frost lee relation with venezuela which up until that point had not accepted their nationals. we are trying to get answers as to what was the big breakthrough that had venezuela change their position on that. nonetheless the hope by senior administration officials is that by deporting them directly back to venezuela it shows consequence and, therefore, tries to drive down those border crossings. >> 7 million venezuelans have led that country. that is an enormous number. priscilla alvarez, always learn something from you, thank you very much. kate? >> and shows how consequential this shift could be in this -- as the crisis continues to unfold. much more ahead for you, coming up, a potentially huge meeting is now in the works. new reporting, planning is under way for a sit-down meeting between president biden and chinese president xi jinping, considering everything that has transpired since they last met last november this face-to-face could mean a lot. and a wisconsin man arrested not once but twice the same day with a gun at the state capital building there in wisconsin. why he was demanding to see the governor and what happens with him now. this morning, a wisconsin man is in custody and here's why. the police say that he showed up armed to the state capitol two times in the same day. this happened on wednesday and both times he had a gun and was demanding to see the governor. so, what happened after that he was arrested after the first time? cnn's whitney wile is following this. what happened here? >> well, as you said, this all happened in the course of seven hours, and the first time he showed up to the capitol, it was 2:00 in the afternoon and as you pointed out, he had a handgun and no shirt on and a dog on a leash, and he walked right up to the capitol and said that he wanted to talk to the governor and made other concerning comments, and the police officers said that you cannot have a firearm in the state capitol and he refused to leave, and so they took him into custody and he posted bail and left. so then seven hours later he went back to the capitol and this times he had a loaded ak-47-style rifle. obviously, extremely concerning to the police, and they were able to talk to him, and in some of the video that we obtained, he is seen laying on the ground holding that rifle, and the police having a conversation with him, and he consented to the search of the backpack and they found a police-style baton. and that is considered a concealed weapon, and he was taken back into police custody, and there was a recommendation for him to undergo a psychiatric evaluation. currently, he is in protective custody and that the last information that we have for people in the madison, wisconsin, but certainly, kate, this could have been a much more frightening and violent situation given that he had firearms twice. here's what the governor tony e v vevers said. >> yeah, i am okay, and the capitol police took care of it, and it is over, but it is something that is, obviously, something that you don't want to see happen. >> certainly a frightening situation, kate. many more questions to answer as this kate is moving forward. >> many questions left unanswered here. thank you so much, whitney. john? so if you are a republican moderate in a district won by joe biden, how does a donald trump endorsement impact your vote for speaker? this morning we are beginning to find out.

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"cnn news central" starts right now. ♪ breaking news on the economy, a genuine wow. a huge number of jobs added last month, almost double economists expectations. donald trump a throwing his support behind a candidate for house speaker and it is not himself. what trump's complete and total support means for the future of republicans in the house. national secrets exposed. the new reporting that trump allegedly disclosed details about nuclear subs to a mar-a-lago club member. sara is off, i'm john berman with kate bolduan. this is "cnn news central." ♪ and the breaking news this morning, big numbers are coming out, a soaring jobs report. now 33 consecutive months of job growth, the united states added 336,000 jobs last month. unemployment rate holding at 3.8%. the report is far better than what economists were expecting, almost double what the expectation was out there. the new data also comes as tens of thousands of auto union workers continue their massive and growing strike against the big three u.s. auto makers and we are going to be hearing from president joe biden himself speaking about the economy and this jobs report a little later this morning. let me bring in cnn's rahel solomon. looking at the numbers for us, you helped break the news this morning. once the report came out take us inside what's inside this top line. >> like john said, it was a wow, it was a shocker, a lot stronger than most people were expecting. twice what economists were expecting. put another way, over the last year or so the average monthly job gain was about 271,000. we are talking about even stronger than what we have seen. over the last week i can tell you that we have been getting different labor reports about whether the market was cooling, whether it was heating back up. this seems to indicate that it's continuing to increase. so 336 for the month of september but what's also important to note is that both july and august were revised higher to the tune of about 119,000 jobs. so the labor market even stronger than what we had been expecting. when we are looking at industries in terms of where you might see this most, we are talking about leisure and hospitality, that industry added about 100,000 jobs, 96,000, government added 73,000 and health care 41,000. there is a silver lining in terms of this is good news for the labor market for the american worker but in terms of inflation it's a little bit more complicated. but there was a silver lining in terms of the inflationary impact and that was wage growth. wage growth cooled to 0.2% on a monthly basis. the markets if you look at the markets right now they are not necessarily happy with this report, they are -- it is red across the screen. >> yeah. >> but what, then -- it is then a complicated picture and complicated question continues for the federal reserve and chairmen and what they do now and the continued efforts to try to reel in inflation. what does this do now? >> the markets are in the red because of the inflationary impact because of the fed. quickly, unemployment stayed at 3.8%, remained at 3.8%. we've been in this range of about 3.4 to 3.7, 3.8 for about 18 months, for about a year and a half. this is a very tight labor market, but in terms of what it means for the fed when we hear from jay powell november 1st is this suggests that we might see another rate hike. and they have already done so much. they have already hiked rates 11 meetings since march of 2022. so this indicates that there still might be room to go because the labor market and economy is still looking red hot. >> there's still forces that they are battling against. thanks for jumping on. appreciate it, rahel. >> a lot of jobs. it's a lot of jobs. a lot more than people were expecting. meanwhile, we're getting new reporting in this morning on the impact that donald trump's overnight endorsement of jim jordan is having on the speaker race. trump says he is throwing his complete and total support behind the house judiciary chair over house majority leader steve scalise. this is our jordan reacted to this. >> did donald trump call you and say, hey, story about -- >> i appreciate the president's endorsement, he is a leader of the party. he is going to be our presidential noom knee and i think he is going to be the next president so i'm appreciate that. we're focused also on -- the key thing o is our colleagues. we got from freedom caucus to people in the middle to committee chairs to jeff van drew who was democrat four years ago. we have all kinds of across the board support and we are going to keep working. >> right. cnn's kristen holmes following donald trump, lauren fox up on capitol hill. kristen, first to you. how did this happen and why? >> reporter: yeah, john, i mean, this came after a very chaotic day in which former president trump inserted himself into an already tumultuous situation with the republican caucus on capitol hill. he was floating the idea that he was going to travel to capitol hill to speak to republicans, which had a lot of gop house lawmakers, including some of his allies, a little bit concerned. they didn't think that was a good idea. he also did an interview in which he floated the idea that he would serve as interim speaker, not mentioning the fact that he would actually have to get the votes to do so. on that interview i'm told that some of his top advisers didn't know he was doing that. the same advisers that have been telling me and my colleagues all week that trump was never seriously considering these ideas of him serving as interim speaker. so late last night he did go on truth social, he posted about jim jordan . he wanted to get out there, no surprise trump endorsed jordan, jordan led investigations into joe biden, he has been a staunch ally of donald trump and unlike steve scalise he has endorsed him for president in 2024. >> let's find out what, if any, impact this is having up on capitol hill. let's go to lauren fox. lauren, there you go. lauren, tell us. >> reporter: to some extent, john, obviously those republicans and conservatives who would be looking at a trump endorsement as a potential reason to get behind a candidate, many of them were eyeing jim jordan to begin with because of jordan's staunch commitment to donald trump, because he has worked so closely with the former president and because he's then leading some of those key investigations on capitol hill. also fighting to open that impeachment inquiry into joe biden. now, there is a question about how jim jordan is going to appeal to more moderate republican members and members running in swing states that joe biden carried in the last presidential election. and he's making a pitch that he is the guy that can unite the republican conference because he's friendly with the eight rebels who voted to oust house speaker kevin mccarthy. he's also arguing that he is the guy who can message most effectively in terms of making clear what the republican and -- the problems that we have internally they don't go away with a new speaker but the real question the members have is how do we get things back on track. and the reason i've been able to build such a strong base of support over these last few days that's been growing is that i have a long proven record as somebody known how to unify republicans. >> and the race is obviously already heating up. things are going to intensify next week when lawmakers return to capitol hill. on monday night the republican conference will have a meeting to discuss this issue, we also know that bret baier will interview some of the candidates. on tuesday there is going to be a candidate forum and on wednesday a potential vote behind closed doors for the republican conference. now, whether or not they actually go to the floor next week, that remains an open question. obviously right now the fight is to get 218 republicans, something neither of these candidates have locked down yet. john? >> it will be three days of extraordinary interest, three days at least. we will see if it goes beyond that. lauren fox on capitol hill, our thanks to kristen who will mts as well. >> joining us for more former republican congresswoman comstock. how much of a boost do you think a trump endorsement is of jim jordan in this speaker's rate now? >> listen, we know donald trump always endorses the person who sucks up the most to them. we also know from last year that the people who trump endorses had a pretty bad track record. so, you know, in terms of a general election. so it doesn't mean you can't get the nomination, certainly, you know, in terms of a nomination in getting the role you might get it, but then your performance might not be very good, as we saw last year in the elections. so in terms of performance, i think if you are steve scalise, you can sort of be the brian kemp in in race and point out things like steve scalise has raised $53 million just in the last cycle for his colleagues and has been generous across the whole party, versus, you know, jim jordan who usually wasn't a fundraiser, you know, i think over the past ten years he's raised a fraction of that and only recently has given money, but it's usually just to those far right people. so it hasn't been that prolific fundraiser. jim jordan was very involved in january 6, you know, trying to shut down the elections and probably was one of the closest people involved in that, and who knows, he could be involved in some of those cases with donald trump. he's never -- jim jordan has never passed a bill, you know, steve scalise has been very involved as a legislator in helping his colleagues pass bills. so i think when you -- you know, it's notable in the endorsement that donald trump mostly just talked about, you know, how he's helped him. so i think steve scalise has a record he can run on and these things are very internal, probably not good for trump to have scotten involved. so i think people will look at overall how this is going to help their elections and donald trump has been sucking up all the money and using it as his defense fund and people are very concerned about next year's elections and say if you are one of those 18 biden seats, those swing seats, jim jordan has been on the far right, ask not going to be helping you and helping the party face when he is the person who even matt gaetz said his impeachment hearings were a disaster. he said that the other day on the floor. so, you know, this is probably not the best face for the party. he's a very small section of the party and he also as we're facing a shutdown was the person who was involved in sort of authoring and driving the biggest shutdown with donald trump back in 2019. so we're facing a lot of serious things, things like ukraine, things where we need to bring people together, work with the senate and since jim jordan has never passed bills he doesn't have those relationships -- >> i want to ask you about the bringing people together bit of this. bringing people together, because that's what steve scalise was kind of getting at in that sound bite, how do we get things back on track. i want to play for you something that jim jordan actually told manu raju just this morning. listen to this. >> i think this race comes down to two questions, i said this question, who can unite the conference, who can also unite -- i guess three questions, who can unite the conference, who can unite conservative republicans in our party around the country and then who can go tell the country what we're doing and why it's important to them, to their -- to their family, to their business, to their community. >> this would be -- maybe the same question even if kevin mccarthy still had the gavel, barbara, but do you think anyone can do that in the republican conference right now? >> well, no, it's going to be a huge challenge and it may be we don't even have a speaker next week and -- you know, you have these eight people who have held the party hostage so the idea that, oh, you have to pick jim jordan or these eight guys are still -- and gals are going to hold the party hostage, i think you have to break through that and say, no, we can't have -- you know, you have to pick this person or you will have these eight people hold the party hostage. that's unacceptable. so i think you have to, you know, have somebody who is going to, you know, move past that and i think steve scalise is somebody who is trusted, but if it's going to be somebody else, it can't be somebody -- we can't say let's further drill down on having a far right person who, you know, doesn't know the full conference, who hasn't, you know, been in leadership and hasn't worked across the aisle and doesn't have relationships with the senate or, you know, on the full breadth of issues that you have to deal with in leadership. things like ukraine, which jim jordan has already said he won't consider, something that senate republicans are very strongly in support of. and somebody who usually has said it's my way or the highway. someone who has never -- you know, if ever -- supported a budget. somebody who hasn't worked collaboratively with colleagues. i mean, i think that would be a big problem and i think when you look at the election denialism that jim jordan engaged in it sends a very dangerous message that the party is going to be full on maga and not have, you know, any place for anybody who is not an election denier and that pretty much would -- you know, i mean, for people who, you know, i think if you are a democrat who would like to see the demise of the republicans for next year this would probably send a pretty strong message that the party is going far right -- >> the big question is -- and we've heard that from republicans even in the house right now, which is the hangover and fallout from kevin mccarthy being ousted, what does that mean for the republican majority and how much does it put it at risk come next year? it's good to see you, thank you so much, barbara comstock. >> it will be very dangerous. >> john? new reporting this morning that donald trump disclosed sensitive information about nuclear submarines to a member of his mar-a-lago resort. a russian drone attack hits apartment buildings in ukraine overnight, one of the deadliest 24-hour stretches in months as more and more republicans are now refuse to go provide more aid to ukraine. and a wisconsin man arrested after showing up at the state capitol with a handgun demanding to see the governor and then coming back the same day with an assault rifle. a new round of deadly russian attacks in ukraine. the latest killing a 10-year-old child and his grandmother. dozens more people were wounded. the missile attack hit residential buildings in kharkiv early this morning. just look at that. it also follows a massive drone attack overnight on the port of odesa. ukraine says several trucks caught fire when a grain storage facility was hit there. we've also learned more about the massive death toll that is rising once again in one of the deadliest attacks against civilians since the invasion began. more than 50 people were killed in the missile attack. that's one of every six residents living there. dozens were at a café to mourn a local soldier, actually, when the building was attacked and you can see t i mean, just absolutely destroyed. the anguish can be seen everywhere there. you can see it even in this man's face. and we're told that he's mourning over his wife's body near the side of the road. cnn's fred pleitgen is live there for us and joins us now. fred, what are you seeing there? the pictures are just so saddening, but what are you hearing and learning about this attack and what comes now? >> reporter: it's absolutely tragic, kate. we were here yesterday shortly after this attack happened and it was a scene of absolute carnage, there was debris everywhere, bodies still strewn everywhere and obviously the first responders were trying to come to terms with the situation. i can show you now as we are sort of a day after this attack took place, you can see that this building has pretty much been reduced to just the supporting walls, there isn't much left of t we can also see that the first responders who we saw here yesterday, the search and rescue crews, they quickly realized that there was just no hope of finding anybody alive under all of this. so this very quickly turned from a search and rescue to a recovery operation, then obviously as you can see clearing operation as well. if you look over there that's pretty much what's left of what used to be this café and supermarket. i would say it was less a café, more sort of a little events venue because they did have that funeral wake for that soldier that was going on. if you look on top there you can see what seems to have been a refrigerator for ice cream. so pretty clear that this wasn't any sort of military facility. that's what the folks here talking to us are telling us as well. they say at that funeral wake it was for a soldier but that soldier had been killed more than a year ago and his body was being repatriated to mere so the local folks were coming to take part in that funeral wake and that's when this happened. i've been spiking to people who lived here and they say pretty much everyone in this village have lost someone in the attack that happened last night. people were breaking down and trying because they lost so many of their friends. there is a list going around with people who have been killed and pretty much everybody who lives here have found someone killed in here. you can see also on the other side over there there is still a car that was badly damaged, there is a makeshift memorial back there that's been set up. this entire village completely devastated. obviously the ukrainian government also extremely angry about all of this. the president of this country, volodymyr zelenskyy, he was in spain yesterday and of course the ukrainians right now are dealing with some of that uncertainty coming from the united states about the future of weapons deliveries or whether or not there could be delays and one of the things that zelenskyy says is that, look, look at this and he says one thing that the ukrainians need more of and can't have enough of is air defense systems. let's listen n. >> translator: i believe that today it is impossible to protect people, especially during the winter, except by air defense. to protect people who died absolutely tragically because of this inhuman terrorist attack. 50 civilians were killed during the funeral. russia does this every day in the kharkiv region and only air defense can help. and so europe has a lot of its own issues, different challenges, but from ukraine's point of view, the key topic was air defense. >> reporter: so there you have volodymyr zelenskyy the president of ukraine talking specifically about how important air defense was. of course, he said that something like this happens every day and we are in that same region, we had this attack that happened on thursday and then obviously overnight that attack that happened there in kharkiv, so certainly the ukrainians very concerned about their air defense capabilities, kate. >> fred, thank you so much for the reporting, as always. john? with us now cnn military analyst retired air force colonel cedric leighton. colonel, we appreciate you being with us. i want to talk about the timing of this attack on hroza. dozens and dozens of civilians killed, an attack on a grocery store. the timing of this at the very moment when republicans in the u.s. are talking about blocking new aid to ukraine. what does that tell you about how much vladimir putin fears or frankly does not fear now international outrage over his actions? >> yeah, i think, john, good morning, i think he's looking at this basically as if he's really in control of the stage right now. he is thinking that he can act with impunity, he thinks that he can make any decision, a tactical or strategic, without fear of any consequences from the west. and right now he's gambling that the dysfunction in the u.s. congress is going to carry over into our ability to provide aid to ukraine and if we don't provide the air defenses that volodymyr zelenskyy has been asking for, that's going to create a real problem for the people of ukraine, especially during the wintertime. >> it is interesting to think about that basically the impact here at hroza what we're seeing here might be the impact of what's happening in washington right now, some of the dysfunction in congress. i want to ask about another development that hasn't received quite as much attention over the last few days which is that the russians have pulled most, if not all of their black sea fleet from sevastopol right here all the way back here across the black sea there. we have satellite imagery, you can see this is the newport -- not the newport, but this is where they are now, all of these ships lined up in port here and the effect of this is basically this whole side of the black sea, which includes the straits in turkey right now, ceding it in a way to ukraine, allowing ukraine to have free passage there. has ukraine won this stage of the battle for the black sea? >> temporarily, yes, and it's really interesting. you're reporting out exactly correctly, john, that this allows for a de facto corridor for ukraine to export its grain to the rest of the world, should those third world countries or sub-saharan countries that require a lot of ukrainian food stuffs, and this is a major deal because what's going to happen here is that it's going to be far more difficult for the russians to interdict, to interrupt those kinds of shipments. it's also going to be more difficult for the russian toss mount attacks. it's still possible for them to do that as demonstrated last night, but they will find it more difficult to mount attacks against places like odesa and other southern port cities on the ukrainian coast. >> it is interesting and you can look at the map here again what this allows the ukrainians to do and what they have been doing is they've been using these shipping lanes all the way here hugging the coast and going down through the straits there, and now easier for them with the russian fleet all the way on that side. i want to bring up one other development that we've seen reportedly over the last few weeks. this is the southern front, the so-called southern front in ukraine and it's being discussed that the russians are employing what's called an elastic defense. they have all these lines of trenches around here. what is an elastic defense, cedric? >> so basically it's flexible defense. what it allows the russians to do is to pull back force toss a predetermined line, then they can use that line to mount even greater defensive operations than they had before. it also allows them to give ground tactically in the hopes that they will regain that ground or be able to potentially even encircle the advancing ukrainian forces. so it allows the russian toss do several different things, among them in essence conserve some of their artillery forces and some of their manpower and personnel. now, on the other hand, they don't seem to be very good at executing that last part of t but it does give them the opportunity to in essence fight the ukrainians in a greater attrition than they have so far. >> colonel cedric leighton, always great to have you on. thank you for your help this morning. kate? coming up for us, did donald trump share nuclear submarine secrets with a foreign cardboard tycoon and why the special counsel's office now has that tycoon on its potential witness list. and a major move from president biden on the migrant crisis, now restarting deportations of venezuelans who cross into the united states illegally. more on this new cnn reporting just ahead. we will be back. is it possible my network could take my business to the next level? it is with comcast business. powering all your devices with gig-speed wifi. and you get fast downloads and uploads. pick it up! pick it up! oh we got this! because it's powered by the next generation 10g network. more speed for your business? it's not just possible. it's happening. get started for $59.99 a month for 12 months. plus, ask how to get an $800 prepaid card with a qualifying internet bundle. comcast business, powering possibilities. this morning new reporting on donald trump nuclear secrets and a cardboard tycoon who is a mar-a-lago club member. according to abc news months after leaving the white house, trump allegedly discussed potentially sensitive information about u.s. nuclear submarines with a member of his mar-a-lago club, this australian billionaire who then allegedly shared the information with scores of others. the australian billionaire is anthony pratt who runs one of the world's biggest packaging companies, a lot of cardboard. cnn has confirmed he was interviewed by federal prosecutors and on their potential witness list. sources tell abc news according to pratt's account in 2021 he told trump that australia should start buying their subs from the united states. that's when trump allegedly leaned and discretely told pratt the supposed exact number of nuclear warheads u.s. subs routinely carry and exactly how close they can get to a russian sub without being detected. in emails and conversations after pratt relayed the information to six journalists, 11 employees, 10 australian officials and 3 former australian prime ministers. so by this account that information it got out there. in response to abc trump's team maintains, quote, they did nothing wrong. kate? >> joining us now is juliette kayyem cnn's senior national security analyst. if what is laid out and john sums it up perfectly, what do you think of this, first and foremost? >> so, i mean, it's obviously in the outrage zone but it actually is also very dangerous. so, you know, we have a tendency now to sort of think trump just does things like this. i want to put it in perspective or at least chronological perspective for viewers. so we think of australia most people don't know it's one of our major intelligence partners in the partnership called five eyes, it also is part of a deal just sealed by the biden administration of the selling of nuclear submarines to australia to count our -- our nuclear submarines to counter the china threat so it's a key player in geopo geopolitics. this billionaire is well-known in australia, he has lots of contacts as we've seen, journalists, prime ministers and others, is not -- you know, joins mar-a-lago and everyone -- if you are a member of mar-a-lago now, you know what you're going to get out of it. you're not there for the golf, you are there for the closeness to donald trump who is more than willing to abide with two pieces of information that are not public for a reason, how many nuclear weapons are on each of these submarines, in other words, what's their capacity, and second how close they can get to enemy territory whether it's russia or china without being detected. those numbers are -- if an adversary knows them, they will be able to calculate what counterstrategy they would want against us. this was not just him being careless, this is purposeful. >> is one set of facts more troubling or, as you said, dangerous than the other? sharing the exact number of warheads that u.s. subs typically carry or how close they can get to a russian sub without being detected? >> i think it's the detection issue more. i mean, obviously no one wants sort of these weapons to be utilized. it's going to be the proximity issue because -- so think about -- think about an adversary aligning its strategy around what they know now, excuse me, which is can we get our submarines out without being detected by the u.s. submarines. i'm not thinking about russian anymore, i'm thinking about china. so that is the kind of information that you would want as an adversary because then you can plan your tactics as many of our military analysts have said. i think the second issue is regardless of the specific number, right, our allies including australia but also the uk, other members of five eyes, nato, now know that that number is out there. they also know that trump, unless something happens, is likely to be the nominee. so if you are aligning your intelligence sharing apparatus now in anticipation of what the united states could look like a year from now, you are paying attention about how much information about your own systems you would want the united states to know now, with the possibility that donald trump could be president again. so this is not about 2001 and what trump did -- >> that's what i was going to ask you because a lot of the documents -- >> that was a long time ago. >> a lot of -- if you want to talk about the documents investigation is looking in the past, right? documents that he should have obviously turned in, that he kept and that's where that investigation is, but something that you pointed out here to our producers which i thought was interesting is that you don't think this is a story about the past, this is actually -- this element of this story is about the future. >> it's about right now. i mean, honestly if you see this story and you wake up and you are an intelligence agency that is sharing information with us, maybe you trust this team or you trust the career civil servants because you know that the political -- the white house won't share it, isn't known to share it, but now you're calculating about, you know, they look way ahead, right? you're calculating what could happen to the united states if donald trump gets the nomination and, remember, if he gets the nomination he begins to get intelligence briefings at that moment. it doesn't wait until he's president because if he wins you want him to be ready on day one. so access to information is going to be available to donald trump, secret service are going to be assigned to him as they -- not just as a former president but a future one, access to the intelligence apparatus will be afforded him in some measure. when and if he gets the nomination. so you're looking at a couple months, you know, less than a year where our allies are now going to assess how much do you want to share? so everyone has to think of this as a future story, not just the past story. >> juliette kayyem, thanks as always for coming in. >> australia part of the five eyes. the cardboard guy, not so much. >> shocking. the biden administration is expanding the border wall, but the president says he's not happy about it. why he says he was forced into this decision. this morning president biden and his team are insisting that construction on a new section of border wall along the u.s. mexico boarder is not a change in policy, they say. the biden administration announced that it waived 26 federal laws to build 20 miles of border barriers in the rio grande valley. the funding comes from a trump era 2019 appropriate appreciations bill. now president biden says his hands are tied and he is required to use this money, despite his stance that border walls do not work. >> the money was appropriated for the border wall. i tried to get them to reappropriate -- to redirect that money. they didn't. they wouldn't. in the meantime there's nothing under the law other than they have to use the money for what it was appropriated. i can't stop that. >> cnn's priscilla alvarez joins us now. he's doing it but he doesn't want to, priscilla. >> that's right, john. that's really the resounding message from the administration over the course of yesterday and going into today, that these were funds that were appropriated in 2019, that they were going to -- they were face ago deadline and they had to use these funds that were only for the purpose of border barriers. so they had to do it. and the president that you are hearing there saying that he doesn't agree. we also got a pretty forceful statement from homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas yesterday who similarly said he doesn't agree with this, either. he doesn't think that the border wall is the answer, but the reality, john, is that you have a president who campaigned on not building an extra mile of wall when because of these funds they say they're going to have to do exactly that and up to 20 miles of it. >> and it comes during this same 24-hour period where there appears to be a shift in posture towards venezuelan migrants. explain what's going on here, priscilla. >> this is a major breakthrough. for years the u.s. hasn't been able to carry out regular deportation flights to venezuela and now starting this week they're going to do exactly that. here is why that's important. most of the border crossers that are crossing today are venezuelan. that is because there is a historic wave of venezuelaness across the western hemisphere, in fact, more than 7 million venezuelans have left that country. to give you some context, john, that is more people than have fled ukraine which is where there is an active war and it's economic and political turmoil that has pushed people to leave that country and many move north. that has been a unique challenge for this administration. just in the month of august they had more than 30,000 venezuelans at the u.s./mexico border, that number went up in september and is expected to continue to go up. this is a way for the administration to say we are going to levee consequences against this population and we are now going to deport them. and it sort of suggests a bit of a thawing of that frost lee relation with venezuela which up until that point had not accepted their nationals. we are trying to get answers as to what was the big breakthrough that had venezuela change their position on that. nonetheless the hope by senior administration officials is that by deporting them directly back to venezuela it shows consequence and, therefore, tries to drive down those border crossings. >> 7 million venezuelans have led that country. that is an enormous number. priscilla alvarez, always learn something from you, thank you very much. kate? >> and shows how consequential this shift could be in this -- as the crisis continues to unfold. much more ahead for you, coming up, a potentially huge meeting is now in the works. new reporting, planning is under way for a sit-down meeting between president biden and chinese president xi jinping, considering everything that has transpired since they last met last november this face-to-face could mean a lot. and a wisconsin man arrested not once but twice the same day with a gun at the state capital building there in wisconsin. why he was demanding to see the governor and what happens with him now. this morning, a wisconsin man is in custody and here's why. the police say that he showed up armed to the state capitol two times in the same day. this happened on wednesday and both times he had a gun and was demanding to see the governor. so, what happened after that he was arrested after the first time? cnn's whitney wile is following this. what happened here? >> well, as you said, this all happened in the course of seven hours, and the first time he showed up to the capitol, it was 2:00 in the afternoon and as you pointed out, he had a handgun and no shirt on and a dog on a leash, and he walked right up to the capitol and said that he wanted to talk to the governor and made other concerning comments, and the police officers said that you cannot have a firearm in the state capitol and he refused to leave, and so they took him into custody and he posted bail and left. so then seven hours later he went back to the capitol and this times he had a loaded ak-47-style rifle. obviously, extremely concerning to the police, and they were able to talk to him, and in some of the video that we obtained, he is seen laying on the ground holding that rifle, and the police having a conversation with him, and he consented to the search of the backpack and they found a police-style baton. and that is considered a concealed weapon, and he was taken back into police custody, and there was a recommendation for him to undergo a psychiatric evaluation. currently, he is in protective custody and that the last information that we have for people in the madison, wisconsin, but certainly, kate, this could have been a much more frightening and violent situation given that he had firearms twice. here's what the governor tony e v vevers said. >> yeah, i am okay, and the capitol police took care of it, and it is over, but it is something that is, obviously, something that you don't want to see happen. >> certainly a frightening situation, kate. many more questions to answer as this kate is moving forward. >> many questions left unanswered here. thank you so much, whitney. john? so if you are a republican moderate in a district won by joe biden, how does a donald trump endorsement impact your vote for speaker? this morning we are beginning to find out.

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