Joining us tonight. Cnn prime time with abby philip. Starts right now. These days it seems like the epicenter of american secrets isnt the cia, the pentagon or even the white house. Its maralago, where donald trump apparently likes to keep and tell those secrets. Good evening, i am abby philip, and tonight, abc and the New York Times both reporting that, after lady leaving the white house, trump told a club member at maralago Sensitive Information about u. S. Nuclear submarines. That number is not only a for national, but hes also an australian billionaire who allegedly spread that information to more than a dozen foreign officials. Among the allegations that trump shared the number of nuclear warheads, those submarines carried. And how close they can get to russian submarines without being detected. Now, trump is, of course, already under investigation for his handling of government secrets, and for keeping classified documents at maralago. And they certainly fits into that pattern. But in the early stages of his presidency, trump reportedly did other things, including using an unsecured phone, in 2017 at maralago. The terrorists became a situation room, as you can see there. For trump and the japanese javanese i lie about ices. He also told the philippine president about two Nuclear Submarines off the korean peninsula, and a couple of years later he tweeted a classified picture of an iranian launchpad. And his former aide suggests it was common for trump to ever share this kind of information. The short answer is yes. I watched him show documents the people at maralago on the dining room patio. So, he has no respect for classified information and never did. And its not just witness testimony. Here is trump himself in his own words. All sorts of stuff, pages long. Wait a minute. Lets see here. [laughter] i just found isnt it amazing . This totally my case, you know . Except it is highly confidential, secret. I was just saying, because we were talking about it. And he said, he wanted to attack iran and the military, given to me. And i think we can probably its a declassify. Since president , i cant declassify. I cant. But this is isnt that interesting . Its cool. Where would i even when you probably almost didnt believe me, but now you believe. Me no, i believe you. Its incredible, right . That, of course, from trump at one of his other properties up administer, new jersey, and the stedman reporting, but they did slam leaks and said trump did nothing wrong. I want to now bring in Cnn National Security analyst james clapper, hes also former director of national intelligence. Director clapper, what was your first reaction to hearing these reactions . Shock, Stunning Development but unfortunately not surprising. Im having trouble coming up with new adjectives to describe how serious and how dangerous that this is. And you just presented a very succinct litany of things that the former president has done, and reflects his complete disregard for protection of National Security, Sensitive Information. And for that matter, the very National Security of the country. In this latest episode, one aspect of this that i think is worth mentioning ease when this kind of thing happens, and the essential bit of information is spread out as ubiquitously and pervasively as it was and an adversary gets a hold of it to russia or china they can use that to confirm or refute their own intelligence holdings. So, there is no end to the potential consequences here, where the endangerment to sources and methods. The endangerment of the crews that man these multibillion dollar submarines. So, from all perspectives, this is really egregious. Assuming, of course, the reportings accurate. Thats right. At the moment cnn has not confirmed all the details here. But according to abc, the australian businessman, mr. Pratte, he went on to share this information with a lot of people, just within a few minutes. Dozens of people would have heard some version of what trump told him. When you think about the number of people who could be involved here, what do you think are the consequences of that . Potentially, quite serious, because how many people did those people tell so, there is no knowing, at least, at this point, how many people this information was conveyed to, whether accurate or not. And, again, if it falls into the wrong hands, which it potentially could do, since both the chinese and the russians, certainly look now to the former president , a valuable source of intelligence for them. So, they would go to any lengths to gain information, particularly about the holiest of police for us, which is, our nuclear deterrent. That is the very essence of protecting this country, and the recklessness that has apparently been displayed here, i think, is really reprehensible. So its potentially quite serious. So, i should point out, joe hockey, who is a former australian ambassador to the u. S. , he says that australians of mariners have been on u. S. Subs for years and he is downplaying the significance of at least some of the information being shared with australia nationals. Does he have a point . Not really. And i have Great Respect for the former ambassador hockey. But the fact is that this had been exposed to people who have absolutely no obligation to protect it. There is no inhibition, legally for them legally not to share, not to tell what they heard, what they learned, with many others. So, i suppose it is reassuring that it was not a chinese billionaire. But that is faint reassurance. All right, director clapper. Its always good to have. You think through for joining us tonight. Thanks, abby. Tonight, in a brandnew interview, some former Secretary Of StateHillary Clintons telling Cnns Christiane Amanpour that donald trump will likely be the republican nominee, and shes also issuing a stark warning about a potential 2024 rematch with President Biden. Listen. So, for those outside this country who may not know, it is not so much a fight between two different parties. Its an internecine warfare within one party, the gop. Yeah. So, when you look at how to go forward for the country, as you say, is there any area of Coalition Building that could happen . There are pragmatic republicans, as you say. Could there be a whole new way of trying to get legislation going and cross Party Governance going by democrats and certain republicans forming coalition . You saw the number of republicans who voted along with democrats to keep the government open. So, theres clearly a common sense sane part of the Republican Caucus in the house. But i think they are intimidated. They oftentimes say and do things which they know better than to say or do. And it will require us defeating those most extreme measures, and the people who promote them in order to try to get to some Common Ground where people can, again, work together. Thats the way it used to be. We had very strong partisans in both parties in the past and we had a very bitter battles over all kinds of things. Gun control and Climate Change in the economy and taxes. But there wasnt this little tale of extremism waving, wagging the dog of the Republican Party as it is today. And sadly, so many of those extremists, those mogollon rim us, take their Marching Orders from donald trump, who has no credibility left by any measure. He is only in it for himself and hes now defending himself in civil actions, and criminal actions. And when do they break with him . Because at some point, maybe there needs to be a formal deprogramming of the cult members. But something needs to happen. How do you do that . Because you say we have to do that by defeating their leader. Their leader is donald trump. Even you have said you expect him to be the republican nominee. How does this change at all . At this point i think, sadly, he was still rightfully be the nominee and we have to defeat him. We have to defeat those who are the Election Deniers as we did in 2020 and 2022. And we have to just be smarter about how we are trying to empower the right people inside the Republican Party. Nancy pelosi had a majority of five votes when she was speaker. Kevin mccarthy had a majority of five votes. Nancy pelosi passed consequential legislation. And she clearly had members of her caucus who ranged across a spectrum of political beliefs and ideology. And she kept everybody together. And she kept everybody focused on the future. He could not do that. And so he pay the price. But, more importantly, the country pay the price. And so, when you see another matchup between, potentially, trump and President Biden, what goes through your mind . And particularly, how do you process that this person who defeated you back in 2016 is still at it, given all that you have . That 91 indictments. Civil fraud. Sexual transgressions, according to the courts. How is this still happening . Its a classic tale of an authoritarian populist who really has a grip on the emotion will, psychological needs and desires of a portion of the population. And the base of the Republican Party, for whatever combination of reasons and it is emotional and psychological seeds in him someone who speaks for them. And they are determined that they will continue to vote for him, attend rallies, we are his merchandise. Because, for whatever reason, he and his very negative, nasty form of politics resonates with them. Maybe you dont like migrants. Maybe they dont like people or black people, or the woman who got the promotion at work they didnt get. Whatever the reason. Make America Great again was a bid for nostalgia to return to a place where people could be in charge of their lives, feel empowered, say what they want and insult whoever came in their way. And that was really attractive to a significant portion of the republican base. So, it is like a cult. And somebody has to break the break that momentum. And that is why i believe joe biden will defeat him, and hopefully then that will be the end, and the fever will break, and republicans can try to get back to fighting about issues among themselves and electing people who are at least responsible and accountable. And you can see more of Christiane AmanpourNews Interview with Hillary Clinton and im Christiane Amanpours monday show. We also have some Breaking News involving the speakers race in washington. Donald trump has floated himself for the position, but now apparently that is no longer the case. Here who he is backing when we return. Plus, his lawyers are now raising a variation of the nixon defense and one of his cases. We have to watergate figures join me live next to discuss. Breaking news tonight, donald trump is no longer coming to capitol hill next week for the speakers election, and he is no longer floating himself as an option for speaker of the house. Instead, sources tell cnn he is able to endorse congressman jim jordan. Jordan has been making that runs rounds and calling around to colleagues, and speaking of jordan, listen to what liz cheney, the former congresswoman, said about the prospect of a speaker jim jordan. Jim jordan knew more about what donald trump had planned for january 6th than any other member of the house of representatives. Now, somebody needs to ask jim jordan, why didnt you report to the Capitol Police what you knew donald trump had planned. If they were to decide that, there would no longer the any possible way to argue that a group of elected republicans could be counted on to defend the constitution. Ed rollins is a republican political consultant and former chief political adviser to president reagan. Also with us, anna navarro, shes a cnn political commentator. Ed, let me ask you about this news that we have tonight that trump, after saying he would go to the capitol and maybe put his name in contention to be speaker isnt doing that and hes going to endorse jim jordan instead. What impact do you think that would have . Its beneficial, but hes not going to. It and its going to be enough of a circus at the end of the day and pick a leader that can lead and i think at a certain form president would be a distraction. The thing i worry about it is i like jim jordan, i like and i know most of these members and im not sure that they have for thought this thing through. Jordan is going to be their candidate unless you get every single republican to vote for your Caucus Conference you are not going to a couple of democrats and unfortunately jim jordan behavior republican perspective certainly is not going to nicely affect democrats and certainly trump is not going to help with it is a good point, and a navarro. Jim jordan is a very polarizing figure. And as liz cheney was pointing out, he does have ties to the stop the steal movement and there are videos and pictures of him outside of the capital with stop the steal signs. All of that ties into it. For moderates, do you think it will matter . Will he be able to get to 218 . I dont think it matters. But listen. Kevin mccarthy, who after 15 rounds to become speaker, he also had some ties. Lets remember, just a few days after january 6th, where was . He hit was in maralago, kissing Donald Trumps ring, among other body parts. And that wasnt enough. So the problem with jim jordan, i think, is for republicans like districts where i live, florida 26, which is represented by representative salazar, a republican, who understands it is a swing district. In swing districts, the polarizing nature and nature of jim jordan is gonna be very hurtful to Republican Congress people. It will be a question of whether the moderates say enough to potentially stop that. And we have to remember that Steve Scalise is super popular and hes running as well. Ed rollins, i want to talk to you, though, about some 2024 politics and earlier today we heard from ron desantis some pretty strong criticisms of former President Trump. Take a listen. Nobody is entitled to be nominated. Nobody, especially anybody that couldnt even stop joe biden. You are not entitled to be nominated. Youve got to earn the nomination. Youve got to show how youre going to be able to get the job done. The reason this is, what im interested in what you have to say, you used to work for the Desantis Super pac. Do you think that is enough to really signal to voters that desantis is going up against trump here . No, no one knows florida better than ana. Shes one of the pros. Shes a next generation. On the old generation. Desantis is not running a good campaign. He cant connect. Hes overspent his budget. Hes lost money. Hes got good operatives, but has chaos and his campaign. And it takes a lot to make this happen. In the meantime, trump and the primaries, beating him is gonna be tough. So my sense today, its gonna go on, but we have basically got to settle our nominee quickly, just as we have to settle on a speaker quickly. We have got a big task ahead of us. The whole house presidency. Back and ana . It has run so many campaigns and hes got experience on this. But i dont think the problem with desantis is he hasnt run a good campaign. I think the problem with desantis is ron desantis. He isnt a good candidate. He frankly a paper tiger. He looked strong on paper because he managed to win in florida, but he was running the second time around, by 20 points, who is running against charlie crist, who i said here on Election Night was like beating a corpse, and i apologize to corpses. So, yes, desantis looked very strong coming out of november, and that election. But he was not. He is a person that lacks charisma, that is not likable. Is very awkward. And he based his entire campaign on this notion of being woke and antiwoke and fighting with disney and fighting with drag queens. Guess what . Taking on the largest employer of florida, which is disney world, because they express an opinion on policy is not a conservative values. So i dont know how he thought that was going to make him that popular. That might be a question for ed at the end of the day. Ed, at some point we will need to discuss what happened there with desantis. But i want to raise this for you. The Trump Campaign says this about desantis. We took out ron, we took out ron, for this talented person than people originally believed. Crooked joe is down to us by 11 points and we have to focus on one of the most overrated people like no, this is trump, nikki. Hes talking about nikki haley. There is this really what the risk is right now . Is trump right that theyve already taken ron desantis out of the race and this is about him and nikki haley . I agree with totally with an evaro on lifetime. Ive never met the person in iowa woke was end was and i think to a certain extent, he didnt define himself. The critical thing is President Trump has got a lot of legal challenges ahead and he doesnt get to define his message of the way as hes done and the past. I think this is still what open. I would bet on him nominate the nomination, but politics is about addition. And thats the new generation, im the old generation. But listen to people is find more voters. We need more voters. Thats how you win races. Its a game of addition. I dont think either the house or the senate or National President ial politics is adding new voters. We need democrats, we need independents, to win in the general. And nikki haley, anna ana seems to be doing just that. Pivoting to the middle. She pivots all over the place. Nikki haley human wind sock. She could whate