Possum. Briefly. I didnt succeed in saving my possum. But i did. All right, tom, thank you very much. And thanks to all of you for being with us. Anderson starts now. Tonight on 360, new reporting that donald trump allegedly disclosed potentially Sensitive Information about American Nuclear subs at maralago to a fellow billionaire who reportedly told dozens more. Also tonight with congressman jim jordan lobbying to be house speaker, he would take the job too. And later, one of the deadliest civilian attacks in the ukraine we have seen. More than 50 People Killed at a wake for a fallen soldier. Good evening. We begin with breaking news. The reporting comes from abc news, and its about the former president on how allegedly reckless he has been. Reckless, again, allegedly beyond keeping highly classified documents at his Florida Club In Plain View for all to see. Here is the Lead Paragraph of the story from abc newss website. Months after leaving the white house, former President Donald Trump allegedly discussed potentially Sensitive Information about u. S. Nuclear submarines with a member of his maralago club, an australian billionaire who then allegedly shared the information with scores of others, including more than a dozen foreign officials, several of his own employees, and a handful of journalists, according to sources familiar. The abc story identifies the billionaire as Anthony Pratt and says the fbi and federal prosecutors have interviewed him at least twice this year. In those interview, again, according to abc news sources, pratt told sources he struck up with a conversation with the former president during a meeting at maralago in twill 2021. Reporting from the report, pratt told trump he believed australia should start buying its submarines from the united states, to which an excited trump, leaning toward pratt as if to be discreet, told pratt two pieces of information about u. S. Submarines. The exact number of warheads they routinely carry and how close they can get to a Russian Submarine without being detected, end quote. Abc further reports that in subsequent emails and conversations, pratt described what he heard to at least 45 others, including six journalists, 11 of his companys employees, ten australian officials, and three former awes australian prime ministers. Sources tell abc that a maralago employee told investigators that pratt began telling people within minutes of his conversation with the 45th president. The same sources saying this employee told investigators he was, quote, bothered and shocked, unquote, to hear that the former president had provided such seemingly Sensitive Information to a nonu. S. Citizen. Just before air time, a Trump Spokesperson Put out a statement which reads these illegal leaks are coming from sources which totally lack proper context and relevant information. The Department Of Justice should investigate the criminal leaking instead of perpetrating their baseless witch hunts on knowing that President Trump did nothing wrong, has always insisted on truth and tran patiencesy and acted in a manner proper to the law. The New York Times as well, Maggie Haberman on the byline. Our political analyst and author of Confidence Man the Making Of Donald Trump and the breaking of america. Also joining us william cohen, cnn military analyst and retired general Mark Hertling and elie honig. Maggie, what more have you learned from your reporting . We confirmed what abc reported, anderson, which is that trump had this conversation with mr. Pratt, who is a member of maralago not long after leaving office. This was a conversation in which trump supposedly revealed a couple of pieces of Sensitive Information. Now its not clear exactly what trump said. We know that according to abc, it was specifics about capabilities and about distance that the submarines can go and how close they can get in certain cases. This is not it doesnt appear that he showed a document to this gentleman. But i dont know for prosecutors that that matters because our understanding is he is among the Trial Witnesses who prosecutors have listed as possible people they will call. And what they would likely use him for is to establish a pattern of trump being loose with Sensitive Information and the governments secrets. So he might actually be called . He is among dozens of people who might be called. And this list stretches back through the white house years. Because, anderson, as you know, as weve reported, as cnn is reported, trump has a history of allegedly talking about Classified Information or putting out Classified Information. There was an infamous Oval Office Meeting with two russian officials where he is said to have spilled some Sensitive Information that upset israeli officials. He tweeted out a classified picture of an iranian launch site, i think it was in 2019. This is something he has done for a while. This is the kind of behavior that added to why President Biden cut off trumps briefings that expresident s get to Sensitive Information and classified briefings, because according to the current president , what could happen other than the trump would slip up and Say Something . Secretary cohen, whats your reaction to this report . Its not surprising. I know it hasnt been validated completely. Lets look at his history. His history is he has very little concern about National Security interests, especially as it affects our military and our civilian population. He has given away secrets in the past, will do so in the future. In this case here, he is being given the benefit of the doubt. How much more evidence do we need of his misbehavior in terms of attacking our institution, the military those who give life and limb for by service to the country as losers and suckers. He has thrown the Intelligence Community under the bus in helsinki. Everything he has done is to undermine respect for this country of ours. So were watching the slow or id say even rapid dissolution of democracy under his hands. He is doing it day after day, and this is just one more example of why we should never allow, never vote to allow him to get his hands on Classified Information in the future. He shouldnt be anywhere near the oval office ever. General, the capabilities of Americas Nuclear subs, close proximity they can get to an adversary subs, how valuable would information like that be to a foreign adversary or to people in the Defense Industry . Yeah, what id say, anderson, is all Classified Information is provide only to those with a need to know. And every president needs to know a lot of stuff to help them in decision making. But that need to know also comes with a requirement not to disclose. If he was truly talking about capabilities as maggie said about the nuclear, seabased part of our nuclear triad, i would suspect, and i dont know this for sure, that theyre at the higher levels of security clearances, either top secret or code word when youre talking about the nuclear force. That puts the country and as the secretary said, it puts Service Members in harms way when hes giving up capabilities. And one other thing id add to that, if this alleged incident did occur, and it seems that it did, this is just one incident thats being reported. How many other times at maralago that one of his golf courses did he lean into somebody and put other secrets in our citizens in danger because he has given up other secrets . Thats the thing that concerns me the most. The abc report says this billionaire, the australian billionaire went and talked to other people very quickly, and that fbi federal investigators have talked to him. The alleged incident is not part of the Special Counsels or not the charges that he brought, but he is on the witness list. I think this could be golden evidence for prosecutors, youre right. The indictment does not specifically mention this incident, and it does mention other incidents where donald trump does show people classified documents. The infamous incident at bedminster. That said, prosecutors often do not, and do not have to list all of their evidence in an indictment. You can introduce evidence that goes beyond whats in the indictment, but it has to be relevant. And the relevance here is to intent. It goes to Donald Trumps stooimd. It goes to a pattern. It goes to answer the question what was he doing with all of this information any way . And if he is out there disseminating it to people, i think its really going to resonate with the jury. Maggie, there any reason to believe that access to president at maralago is any freewheeling than it has been over the past few years . No, i think its exactly the same. What is different is he doesnt have those documents at maralago anymore, as far as we know have all been either retrieved or turned over under subpoena or an fbi search. But he continues to entertain his members. Again, it is worth noting that this gentleman who he was talking to, this australian businessman is a member of maralago. He is somebody who joined maralago after trump became president. He is somebody who became protrump after not being protrump prior to the election, and he is somebody who the New York Times, my colleagues and i reported a couple of years back toward the end of the presidency was part of this broader effort of trump or a habit of trumps of melding the presidency and his business and his own persona into one. And so this gentleman, mr. Pratt was invited to a state dinner 2019. He the president went to one of his factories in ohio. And so there is this atmosphere where there is a sort of seamless rolling of things related to the white house and things related to Government Secrets into aspects of trumps business. Secretary cohen, abc news also reports that this billionaire, this australian guy went to tell more than a dozen other people. How difficult is it to stop this game of telephone once Sensitive Information is out there . I cant remember if it was world war i or world war ii where there are posters the u. S. Government put out loose lips sink ships. I mean, this is a prime example. Exactly right, anderson. I was thinking back in greek mythology, or roman mythology, they had the bird rumor. And under rumors feathers were eyes and ears. So thats how information spreads. So when you think im just giving this information to a friend, number one, its a violation of law. But number two, that friend is going to spread it just like everybody else will. And they have a rumor theyve heard. They have inside information. Look how close i am to former president. I have this information and it just spreads like wildfire. Youre not just giving it to a friend. Youre potentially giving to it enemies as well. This is why its so important. General hertling, you mentioned the submarines in particular. Out of the triad, the submarine is the one that is most secure for us because its not targetable. A preemptive target cant go after subs. They can go after airplanes. They can go after landbased missiles, but not the subs. So theyre special. And he is giving away special information on what is protecting us around the world. And general, to secretary cohens point, it is just to bolster ones ego. Thats why people in this case, it could seem unless there was some business quid pro quo here, its just to make himself feel more important and look like you would think having the title of president would be enough. What kind of steps can the military actually take to limit damage when they know Sensitive Information is out there . Once its out, its out. If they know exactly the kind of information, thats been given to others, they can certainly take steps to fence the information, fence the capabilities, sense the type of secrets that have within given away. Thats happened multiple times, anderson. We look at spice that have gwynn information to foreign governments, and there is that reaction of the Intelligence Community or the military or the State Department to try and mitigate the risks that can occur with this. But you never expect it out of a president. I mean, he is giving secrets to people, and carrying secrets into his home where, you know, everyone that is read in to classified documents signs a piece of paper that says i will not divulge this because each of these secrets have something to do with National Security and divulging it could cause either grave or serious harm to the united states. And it appears that there have been incidents with President Trump just willynilly giving that, because he wants to appear big. There have been times on cnn where you all have asked me questions that ive known the answer to because of my background and because of secret information i had, but im not going to give it up to you. I mean, maggie will try to get it from Anonymous Sources and others will, but theyll never give up the details of this secret information because people that take the oath know that these kinds of things harm the country, number one, and number two, if theyre found out giving it, they can be held accountable with a lot of jail time, as elie will probably talk about. So elie, he is an australian billionaire. I dont know what his i assume if he has any u. S. Citizenship. Can a Foreign National be thats a photo of him with the former president. Can a Foreign National be compelled to testify . Absolutely, yes. There is a probably called multilateral assistance treaty. Its a treaty we have certain countries, including australia to compel someone to comply with a subpoena. He might also testify voluntarily. And to general hertlings point, it is a freestanding crime to disseminate, to spread this type of Classified Information. Not charged at this point, but jack smith may be chewing on that now. Elie honig, thanks. Maggie haberman, general hertling. Next, jim jordan Lobbying Moderates and the former president says he is ready to do the job too. Later, ukraine. Not even a Memorial Service in a rural area is safe from russian attack. One of the deadliest attacks from russians in the war so far. Its classic tale of an authoritarian populist who really has a grip on the emotional, psychological needs and desires of a portion of the population. And the base of the Republican Party, for whatever combination of reasons, and it is emotional and psychological, sees in him someone who speaks for them. And they are determined that they will continue to vote for him, attend his rallies, wear his merchandise because for whatever reason, he and his very negative, nasty form of politics resonates with them. Maybe they dont like migrants. Maybe they dont like gay people or black people or the woman who got the promotion at work they didnt get. So it is like a cult. And somebody has to break that momentum. Secretary clinton was also asked about congressman jim jordan who is now trying to win over moderate republicans in his bid for the speakership. It said that the main contenders for his position are jim jordan, who you knew very well from benghazi. Well, i dont know him well. I watched him. And stared at him for 11 hours while he made stuff up about me. So i dont know him, but ive seen him in action. So what will it mean if he gets the speakership . He is one of the principle ringleaders of the circus that has been created in the Republican Party for the last several years. When you look at the extremists in the house, they certainly dont represent a majority of the country. And, you know, somebody has to stand up and say enough. Melanie zanona joins us with more on the speakers race, and if anyone is even close to a candidate. Can his history with maga elements complicate his bid for speaker . Anderson, i think that could be one of his biggest vulnerabilities in this speakers race. Of course his flamethrowing brand of politics, as well as the fact he is the face of the biden Impeachment Inquiry is going to be a top sell among vulnerable districts, particularly in the districts won by joe biden. And one Jump Shot Lawmaker who is a moderate told cnn he is not anxious to support jordan, and that challenge is he built the monster. Thats part of the problem. Remember, jordan was a coFounding Member of the Freedom Caucus, which was home to many of the members that ultimately voted to oust Kevin Mccarthy. But jim jordan knows he has his work cut out for him. He hansen been making