Permanent level of that seat left vacant by the late senator diane feinstein. Well see what happens next. Abby, always a pleasure. Thanks to everyone for watching, our coverage does continue. Right now, for viewers who might be joining us, were talking about a day unlike any In Washington since 1910, the last time that has members tried to throw out their speaker then. 113 years later, for the very first time, members tried to throw at their speaker but this time, this time, anderson and caitlin, they succeeded. Yeah, jake and edison, Kevin Mccarthy only serving for 269 days, his speakership undone by eight republicans led by congressman matt gaetz of florida, using that rule to force him out that mccarthy himself agreed to, of course, as a condition to get the job as House Speaker, now a vote in the election is expected next week, a week for now from tomorrow night. The jockeying at the position is already underway tonight. Cnns Melanie Zanona is covering it all at the capitol. Nani, what is the latest now that we heard from Kevin Mccarthy saying that he would not try to run for speaker. Again who is not going to try to enter the case . Kaitlan, that is the question of the moment right now. We have heard from a number of republicans who say there are a number of names floating around. That includes Steve Scalise. He is the number two republican, the House Majority leader. He is seen as the likely next in line, the era power apparent said he is getting a good amount of support already. So, just to give you a sense of how quickly things are moving here. But i will tell, you there are some other names in the mix as well. Until there are some other members who are encouraging jim jordan to run. He is a conservative. He is a cofounder of the freedom caucus. But he has also become a Kevin Mccarthy ally. He is chairman of the judiciary committee. He is someone who is also seen as a potential contender here. Now, its unclear if he would run. He was asked by our manu raju earlier if up to the conference. So, clearly, believing leaving it open. Its unclear whether he would challenge to Steve Scalise. We are hearing some other names as well. Kevin hern, chairman of the republican steady committee but at this point, kaitlan, it looks like Steve Scalise is making moves to become the next speaker. They have until next week. There is going to be a candidate for mom tuesday for any speaker candidates to try to make their pitch. Then they will move to try to elect a speaker on wednesday. So, again, things are moving quickly. But as of right now, the house is paralyzed, and they cannot conduct any other business until they lacked a new speaker. Right. They are moving quickly. But not necessarily that quickly, if they are going to wait over a week before they actually hold that election. Given there such a time crunch with time to actually find the government, when this temporary bill that they just passed this runs out, is there a sense of why they are waiting this period of time to pick a new speaker . Listen, they are in such a period of uncertainty. They didnt want to start ramming an election down the republicans outs again. They wanted to give them time, especially now that Kevin Mccarthy has stepped aside. It is a really a whole new ball game, unlike in january, where he was in the race for round after round. No one else who is willing to step up to the plate. But someone like Steve Scalise, for example, has long been waiting in the wings. He never wanted to challenge that mccarthy outright, but now that he is out of the picture, he is clearly making his moves. But i will tell, you back to your earlier point, about government funding, there was a concern raised by a lot of republican members today, about if they were to go forward, with the motion to vacate, and potentially hours Kevin Mccarthy as speaker, which they did, that it was going to delay their appropriations process, the same appropriations process, we should point out that matt gaetz had been fighting for. So, now all of that is delayed. They were supposed to be marking up bills this week and next week, trying to move towards that November 17th deadline. That is going to be a lot harder. I can tell you, whoever is going to be the next speaker is immediately going to have to deal with that next challenge. And the question becomes, what do they do . They have to pass a short term stopgap bill to keep the government open and avoid a shutdown . The very thing Kevin Mccarthy was punished. For so, theres a lot of questions tonight here in the capital, kaitlan. Yeah, not exactly an appealing job here melanie. Im joined now by congressman tim burchett, of tennessee, one of the eight republicans who voted against Speaker Mccarthy we spoke to last night. Congressman, i want to get your saying essentially that the eight of you who voted to oust him are not real conservatives. What is your response to that . I would say he is better, and i will take it at that. My concern all along has been that we took six weeks off, as you know, in august, in september. We take in a five trillion dollars a year. We spend seven trillion. We pass continue continued resolution after continuing resolution. The reason we require, really, by law to do a couple of things. Pass a budget. And the 12 appropriations bills. Yet, they do a continuation, continued resolution to hide a lot of things, in my opinion. They their bodies, their lobbyist buddies, in the powerful stay in power. They all say, oh, this is a terrible thing. Then they say, we are going to pass this continuing resolution so we wont have to pass another. So, when he says, you are not looking to be productive, you think he is wrong . Hes absolutely wrong. I want to budget. Jodey arrington out of texas is an excellent chairman of the budget committee. I was on the budget committee. I asked her never done any budgets and now Jody Arrington they gave him a little complimentary ascend him on his. Way but we are required to pass a budget. Every state in this great union passes a budget and i i would say you are a family pass a budget, mind as. Your church, your synagogue, your place of business. We have a budget. But this place back here does not have a budget. You had quite what it sounds like a testy phone call with the speaker after you and i spoke last night. You said you were praying about the decision. You say you basically was mocking you for saying you were being thoughtful about it. What i said. And i thought, i will listen to what he said and change my mind. And when those opening salvo i guess, was that, i said, i think the word going to be my answer. Honestly, because i dont mocking god to me, it crosses the line. I thought it showed his character. But that is over. He is out, and we are looking ahead to a new speaker. And of course, that election is now not going to happen for over another week. Are you happy that lawmakers are no thats another reason i was angry at the speaker before. Because we left town when we should have been working. We took a long weekend until tuesday. I realized there was a jewish holiday, which i think we ought to honor. And yet, we could have come back. We could have worked up to that point. And we chose not to. Again, we passed a continued resolution for 45 days. Here it is, day 42. And we have not addressed it up to this point. We come in late. We leave early. The rest of america is not. I can guarantee you, they are working. Thats going to be the challenge for the next House Speaker. We are Hearing Names like people like Steve Scalise, jim jordan, kevin hern. Do you like any of . Those have you heard from them . I have not, but i have been on the media trail pretty hot and heavy. I think Elise Stefanik could be one, you can figure, maybe. Maybe mark green out of tennessee. Theres a lot of people that we have a very deep i dont think thats going to be the problem. I think once we elect this person i think we can probably do it in the first round. I think, also, people will rally around them and we will see just like when you put in a new quarterback in and and the we have seen that in alabama a lot this season. And alabama tennessee boy yall play football in alabama . We will get back to that in a moment. But when it comes to what the rules for the next House Speaker actually look like, will you insist on keeping that one vote motion to vacate for whoever is actually the i have thought about that a lot. But i have that doubt in my mind. I dont know if its important. I think it served its purpose. And honestly i dont know if it serves the purpose it once did. But it was on the books for years, i think, since maybe the twenties, until Speaker Pelosi had taken it out. It sounds like you are okay with it staying. I wouldnt mind. I voted for those rules. I thought it was a wise decision. And i think it serves as well. I think it holds them accountable to the and i dont have a problem with accountability, which is something this town lacks a lot of. Congressman tim burchett, thank you for coming over here to join us tonight. Jake, of course, a lot of questions about what that is going to look like going forward. Ell, a fist bump there. Even though he is a tennessee guy, we dont very nice. Until the end of the month, so. Very nice to see. Its nice to see some cross Border Action there. Thanks caitlin, even though this is playing out as a fight among House Republicans, obviously the interest in having a functioning House Of Representatives is bipartisan, it is frankly nonpartisan. Obviously it does include everyone, and everyone in the cnns is at the white house kayla, what is the reaction at the white house this evening . There is not a speaker of the house . Well jake, the white house is trying to project an image of calm, and to strike a contrast with the chaos on capitol hill, and just this evening urging House Republicans to elect a speaker quickly, so that both sides of pennsylvania avenue, you get back to the business of governing. But aides say the president bidens going to aim to strike a term of business as usual, throughout the rest of the week tomorrow, he has a policy focused speech in student loans. And today in the messaging blasted the white house has put out for many weeks, in days. They announced a split screen on president biden, touting his negotiations for lower drug prices, contrast it with republicans, trying to repeal the legislation that authorizes the president to do that. Not highlighting the motion to vacate, or any of the drama that was happening on capitol hill. We are that is the white house trying to stay above the fray, jake. The Democratic National committee posting on social media platform acts, has reacted calling a gop posting movie memes. And in some of the same split screen images, taking their own liberties, and pointing out that chaos, for that motion to vacate. Well, it was chaotic. And for some reason, for some reason that eludes my understanding, republicans have decided to take a weeklong break, before picking their next leader. Although, they could be doing it right now, presumably, im not the only one asking this question. Is there, and i realize that if you know the answer to this, the democrats in the building behind you might not want the answer public. But is there a particular republican, in the House Of Representatives, that the white house might think would be the easiest to deal with, in terms of, lets think of two pressing issues, ukraine aid, and avoiding another government shutdown, which is coming down in just 43 days . Well certainly, having a week off is not going to help the effort to avoid a government shutdown, by any stretch of the imagination, and securing more aid for ukraine would be seen as the administratives first priority. Just today, the administration suggested, once again, that it was assured by house leadership, and the chairs of the Relevant National security committees in the house, that there would be support for that aid. But jake, when you look at their voting records, which is one of the things that the white house points too often, you sort of have a spectrum of support. And, a pretty wide range, if that, among the names that have been floated so far. Tom emmer, based on his voting record, in his Public Statement so far, it will be seen as the staunchest supporter for ukraine aid. And then you have Steve Scalise, the number two republican, who would be somewhat in the middle. He has made some neutral statements recently, and it is unclear whether it, when john kirby, the and what spokesman was saying that there was support among house leadership, whether he was referencing Steve Scalise is part of that bucket. And then of course, there are hardliners like kevin hern and jim jordan, who would be seen as anti ukraine, based on their voting records. But again, kirby has suggested that those are a very vocal few, and they are in the minority, and they still believe that there would eventually be support. All right kayla tausche, at the white house, thanks. Senate Minority Leader Mitch Mcconnell just weighed in, quoting from his statement which reads in part, quote, Speaker Mccarthy has my sincere thanks, for his service to our nation, in what is often a thankless role. The speakers tenure was bookended by historic fights, but asked he reminded his colleagues, when he took the gavel, our nation is worth fighting for. Minority leader mcconnell, from kentucky, tonight. Back with the panel, and dana bash, i wonder if there are viewers are voters out there that are thinking to themselves if i worked for an organization, that couldnt get its act together, i dont know that i would then immediately be taking a weeklong vacation. That doesnt seem, to me, to be the response that every other person in the rest of the world would immediately be doing, taking a week off. Good job everybody. You know, we just did the first ever motion to vacate, we no longer have a speaker of the house, lets all go to barbados. I dont think theyre going to barbados, although that does sound really nice right now. Well, they are taking a week off . They are taking a week to pick a new speaker. I dont know the answer. Do they not know each other . Do they need to get acquainted . We are in new territory, about whether or not committees are going to happen, and organize tomorrow. But they adjourned . No committees tomorrow. I think that. No one. The house adjourned. All right, so i dont know that it is a vacation, and i have been wondering, is why werent they ready for . This i mean, this is, everyones like oh my gosh, this is shocking. No, we knew, starting on sunday, when matt gaetz told you that he was going to make a motion to vacate, that it was a very likely, but this would happen, very likely. So, why wasnt there a backup . Why werent there are already discussions about who would be the person to go in there . I think the answer is because the people who might want to be speaker, didnt want to get out ahead of kevin cart, because that would look bad. And, it would probably sink them, with the very people that they need, that is sort of answer my own question. But, you are right, it doesnt necessarily take an entire week to do it. You saw, and youve mentioned the fervor, with which Patrick Mchenry hit that gavel down. And. I thought he was going to sprained his wrist. And to me, looking at it, he was trying to get everybody, he is trying to lower the temperature, get everyone to calm down. My experience, on capitol hill, is that. And, i dont know if you agree with me, and we cover the hill together as well. When you send people home, it stirs people up, rather than keeping people in town sometimes, it has the opposite effect. Well one, you are sending them back to their constituents, who are going to call offices, matt gaetz included. If it to, shock and awe, these people are shocked. As much as they shouldnt be, it was very clear that they thought they were calling some sort of bluff, and that did not happen. And they all looked like they couldnt believe it. And, that is just weird. It is just like one of those weird moments on the hill, that is unexpected. I think one thing id like to say is that, this is not Kevin Mccarthys problem. This is our problem, as a country, because in 40 something days, we will be discussing the budget all over again, the continuing resolution all over again. And whoever the speaker is, will have had to make some sort of concession to be leader, that would it directly affect that discussion, again. So its not like everyone can be like oh, Kevin Mccarthy is gone, i guess this thing is solved. No, they really have to figure how to reconstitute themselves. I mean, this is a big discussion, not only about oh, who is the person you would like to be the next speaker. They have to figure out how they change the rules, as mccarthy said, change the rules. Do they . While there is that one. Rule there is that one rule, about the motion to vacate. But it is a rule that he actually asked to. So, if you are i want to be speaker next time, do you want that rule . I dont think you do. And then the question is of course, on substance, what do you do about ukraine, which has been raised here. And, what do you do about the recalcitrant aid, what are they going to demand . And so, it is really, it is reconstituting the party, in the House Of Representatives, but it is also taking a look at the Republican Party, writ large, and well a president ial campaign. 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