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CNNW Erin July 3, 2024

Captions by vitac www. Vitac. Com and, good evening, im erin burnett along with wolf blitzer tonight. And welcome to a Special Edition of outfront because we are following the breaking news, and a Major Development at this hour because we are just learning that Kevin Mccarthy will not run for Speaker Of The House again will not run. A major decision coming after he made history. The first speaker in American History to lose his job. His firing has plunged the house into complete chaos, all work grinding to a halt. The party bewildered and uncertain what to do. No clear successor is in sight at this hour. But we do know that House Republicans, as wolf and i are sitting here, are Behind Closed Doors in a pivotal meeting, one that is sure to be heated, wolf, if what weve heard about recent meetings before all of this is any indication of where we are right now. We are standing by for details. Mccarthys removal puts an end to his term, which was just 269 days as Speaker Of The House. That makes his term the third shortest in u. S. History. We have a lot to cover over the next hour. And i want to start with cnns manu raju. Hes outfront live here in washington. Manu, first of all, tell us more about What Mccarthy is now saying to his fellow republicans. Reporter yeah, hes stunned, saying that he will not run for the speakership again. I just talked to congressman ralph norman about this. He said that the members did not expect that, and the meeting abruptly ended. He did not endorse a successor, but indicating that he will not run for the speakership again. Really, a fall for the speaker because Kevin Mccarthy had planned to fight this out. He had indicated that if he were to be ousted from the speakership, as he was today, that he would fight this or potentially go to the floor, be ready to grind it out. He had suggested that. But in recent days, he has not said explicitly. And coming to the realization that there is virtually no path for him to win, as long as those holdouts within his conference decide to vote against him. Democrats are expected to vote for Hakeem Jeffries to be the next speaker. Republicans can only afford to lose four republicans in order to be reelected speaker. Eight republicans today voted against him. That simply was not there for Kevin Mccarthy. We will hear more about his thinking in just a matter of minutes. He will speak to reporters. But this meeting that members were trying to figure out what was next was a very brief one, as the speaker came in, said he is not running. Mccarthy came in and said he is not running to become speaker again. And now republicans have to figure out whats next. They have to get behind a speaker. Otherwise, the house will remain in a state of paralysis. No legislation, the committees cant move forward on their investigations, nothing can happen until this badly divided republican conference can come behind a Consensus Candidate. Well see how quickly that emerges here, wolf. But a momentous decision during a historic day of Kevin Mccarthy being the firstever speaker pushed out of office by the house, and now saying he will no longer be a candidate for speaker as this party tries to figure out where to go from here, wolf. And, manu, were now expecting that mccarthy will emerge from this republican Conference Meeting where you are, and he will meet with reporters and answer their questions, a formal News Conference coming up in the next few minutes . Reporter thats right. We expect that around 7 30 eastern time that he will talk to reporters, answer questions, and perhaps provide some thinking about what happened here, what happened on the floor. And i can tell you, wolf, in talking to some of the mccarthy allies, they will be distraught about this decision. Of course, he had the support of virtually all of the conference. Just a handful of members, more than four could disrupt his speakership at any time. He tried to align with those hardright members from the beginning of this congress. And after he was elected from 15 ballots, he had to make a whole number of concessions. But perhaps the one that sealed his fate was the big concession, allowing one Single Member to call for a vote seeking his ouster. And thats exactly what congressman matt gaetz did that forces the ouster today. Now, as a result, Kevin Mccarthy is out as speaker, no longer will run, and republicans have to figure out whats next. Well, of course, have live coverage of Kevin Mccarthys News Conference coming up this hour. So everybody stand by for that. Manu, thank you very, very much. And you see manu getting ready to speak with congressman garcia. Were going to be bringing the former Speaker Mccarthys News Conference to you live when that begins any moment. Former congressman, you knew him. All right, this is Congressman Gaetz. Lets listen to gaetz now. On our Appropriations Bills in electing a new speaker. I was very disappointed that mr. Mchenry said that we wont be engaging in the peoples work until next week, until tuesday of next week. I think thats burning a lot of time. So he said that the house is leaving town until next tuesday . Yeah, it was very disappointing. I think we should stay, we should work. I think we should have a Speaker Election this week. I think we could easily come together as a conference to do that. And, so, i just hate when we pause the clock. I hate when we stop our work and dont do the peoples business. Reporter who are you going to get behind as a candidate . I dont know who the candidates are. All right. When manu manu cant hear me right now. I do want to get some more clarification as soon as we can on that. Because okay, manu, can you hear me now . Reporter yeah. What did Congressman Gaetz just tell you, that Patrick Mchenry told him that there isnt going to be a vote on this till tuesday . Reporter were live on cnn right now. Mr. Gaetz just told us that mchenry just said that the house will not be in session until next tuesday. At that point is that when we expect the speakers house . What mr. Mchenry said was that candidates would have the time, opportunity to make their intentions run for speaker known, and to socialize that and to meet with folks, and we would come together tuesday evening to have a Candidate Forum for those who are interested and that we would hope to vote on a speaker on wednesday. Reporter so the speakers race on the floor will be wednesday. He said we would have a meeting tuesday night to have a Candidate Forum and allow those candidates to make their case. And then we would hopefully, use that term, hopefully vote on a speaker on wednesday. And i dont know if that would mean within Conference Wednesday or within conference tuesday night or on the floor. So, the certainty was tuesday night for a Conference Meeting to have a Candidate Forum. Reporter what is your reaction being one of the eight members who pushed Speaker Mccarthy out, his decision here to not be a candidate again for speaker . I thanked Speaker Mccarthy for his service. My position on the situation was welldocumented. Reporter but do you feel like youre going to be marginalized within this conference . You were one of a very small minority who set this into i believe it was best for the country. I will say there has been a blow dealt to the status quo, and if americans are concerned that things dont seem to change in washington with 33 trillion national debt, a 2 trillion deficit, a federal government they believe is weaponized against them, oppressing them, not working for them, and that things, again, just seem to stay the same, i think this is a step in the right direction. Thank you. Reporter i dont know if youre still with me here, erin. Oh, im with you. Reporter just to break down all of this developing news as we hear it. So, according to both Congressman Good and Congressman Gaetz, two of the people who pushed Kevin Mccarthy out of the speakership, the house is going to be out of session, essentially, until next week as candidates will emerge to become the next Speaker Of The House. It sounded like republicans will meet again on tuesday and then come wednesday is when they would expect there to be a vote. Its unclear based on what good just said about whether or not there will actually be a full vote in the full house for a speakers race or simply if the gop conference would nominate their candidate for speaker. But typically what happens in leadership elections, first there is a Nomination Process among the conference. In order to get nominated speaker, youd have a majority of votes within your conference, and in this case that would be a majority of the 223 members in the house gop conference. But the trick is you need to have a majority of the house to become elected speaker. That is what Kevin Mccarthy ran into. 218 members of the full house, as democrats will vote for Hakeem Jeffries, and 218 members of the 223 House Republicans vote for the next speaker candidate. That is an openended question. As you can see here, there is no Consensus Candidate at the moment. There will be candidates that will emerge that will try to get support from their own conference. But that is something that will begin to play out now that Kevin Mccarthy has made that very significant decision of not running again for Speaker Of The House after being ousted on this rightwing revolt led by congressman matt gaetz as a result now republicans are trying to figure out whats next as they head into critical votes next week. Yes, critical votes, theres nothing else being voted on. Manu, very much. To make the point clear here, there is no speaker, there is no business, there is no nothing. And they have just admitted, congressman walsh, that they have no plan and nobody ready and to the extent that they are going to go away for a whole week and have no congress because they cant get their business together. And it sounded like a Candidate Forum, it sounded like they were having a bake sale next tuesday night. Erin, the entire conference is in shock, all sides. And i think the only thing that makes sense to me in doing this, in waiting a few days, because the house is closed now, is there cant be a fight for speaker. Theres got to be one vote, one ballot, and it sounds like they want that all tied up by next week. What theyre admitting, though, alyssa, is that they know theyre nowhere close. The stunning lack of urgency, i think, is going to just send shock waves through the American Public, lets take a week to sleep on this, to socialize. Heaven forbid Something Like a Natural Disaster happens that requires an Emergency Declaration by congress or some sort of business that needs to be taken care of. Listen, i think we can kind of expect what were going to see. I would keep my eyes on elise stefanik. Shes got the Conference Chair Title so shes got a big staff behind her. Shes a big fundraiser. Donald trump likes her. Keep your eyes on Steve Scalise. The person who would make the most sense is someone like a Patrick Mchenry, hes an institutionalist, he knows how to count votes, lets just keep the ship running. I dont think thats what its going to be. And donald trump has remained silent on all this, or largely silent. I think at some point hes going to have to put his finger on the scale of who its going to be there, and theyre going to spend the next week rather than doing the peoples business, jockeying for that endorsement. Weve all said it a million times, the house is shut down. Theyre not going to do anything. No Impeachment Inquiry continues. You cant have declarations of war. These are big things. It is interesting, and i want to mention here that we are waiting any moment the former Speaker Of The House, Kevin Mccarthy to speak to reporters. The way manu described it, he walked into this room, stunned his colleagues, said not running, not endorsing a successor, abruptly ended the meeting. Why would he do anything more . Hes probably looking at everybody and saying, my god, look at what you did to me. But he did it to himself. We saw this coming. Everyone that watched it saw this coming that theres no way that he could be able to hold onto this position which he was seemingly flayed 15 times to be able to actually assume that position. And i have to say this, what did democrats do today . What democrats did today was open the door for a black woman to be sworn in as senator, laphonza butler. Thats governance, that is a peaceful transition of power. And that is democrats saying, you know what, we know how to govern, we are the party of good governance. They made History Today in a way that republicans and she was, of course, sworn in to replace Dianne Feinstein from california. Republicans made history in a very different way today and they have put the American People in jeopardy because no business is getting done in the meantime. One crucial thing that keeps coming up is the reality that the reason Kevin Mccarthy was in this position was that he gave up one crucial thing. He said that one person alone would be able to bring up a vote on whether to oust him as speaker. Usually in a negotiation once you give something up, its really hard to get it back. How do you ever take that away . How does the next person who wants this job say, well, im not willing to give that up . When thats already been given up. Well, theres the old saying that we can never blame our enemies for doing what they will expectedly due. When you give up that type of power to effectively light fire to the peoples house, then you can expect this result. I do think that if youre looking at what happened today, two things happened. I think, number one, mccarthy, in his own way, demonstrated how he was able to become Speaker Of The House in the first place by suffering 15 times, to be able to hold that community together. Then, once again, putting the American People first. Because if you look at it through that perspective, if democrats decided in closed conference to effectively let it burn, the it that is burning is not just republicans. Republicans are parcel and part of america. It is america that is burning. And in many ways and in that sense youre seeing that on capitol hill right now and the anger and frustration among democrats and republicans, many of whom manu raju is speaking to. Manu, we saw you speak to Congressman Good, Congressman Gaetz. You got a chance to speak to congressman jordan. What are you hearing from others as they come out of that room . Reporter i tell you, this is actually an interesting interaction that i just had with congressman jim jordan. I asked him will you be a candidate for Speaker Of The House. He said that is a decision for the conference. Now, why is that significant . Because before when Kevin Mccarthy was running for speaker, he flatly ruled it out. He said i only want to be the house judiciary chairman. Clearly not ruling out the possibility of running for speaker. Congressman jim jordan, someone who has a sizeable amount of support with this, particularly among some of those hardright members, the same members who pushed Kevin Mccarthy out and has the support of a lot of mccarthy allies. Jordan himself was a staunch mccarthy advocate. He just told me that he thought what happened to mccarthy was very, very unfair, but, notably, not ruling out the possibility of running for speaker. There will be candidates who emerge. Well see if Steve Scalise who is the number two, was the number two before Kevin Mccarthy, was pushed out, he is seen as a possibility. Tom emmer, the current republican whip, what will he do . Elise stefanik, another member of the Republican Leadership team. Well see if mr. Roy, are you considering running for speaker at al

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