plus, one of donald trump's codefendants in georgia has just pleaded guilty, striking a plea deal with prosecutors. the question is, could more deals be on the horizon? what it all means for the former president. also, the joint chiefs chairman did not mince words in his retirement speech today, calling trump a wannabe dictator without naming him. former vice president mike pence is here to respond to that in moments. i'm kaitlan collins, and this is "the source." the u.s. is on the brink of a government shutdown tonight, with really no plan in sight. with all the infighting, all the f bombs, all the votes that have been happening and also not happening on capitol hill, right now there is still no deal to keep the government open after tomorrow at midnight. house speaker kevin mccarthy's own conference sank his last ditch plan earlier today, and tonight he emerged with this mes message for the senate. >> i think if we had a clean one without ukraine on it, we could probably be able to move that through. i think if the senate puts ukraine on there and focuses ukraine over america, i think that could cause real problems. >> of course the keyword there is "probably." so far the far right of mccarthy's party has not relented. they've been blocking him at every turn. and on the prospect of a shutdown and what it means for regular americans, some of whom, unlike members of congress, may miss their paycheck after tomorrow night, congresswoman marjorie taylor greene said this. >> i promise you, most americans aren't too worried about the government shutting down, which is a serious problem. but this is because democrats shut down the country. >> of course there is a real life impact. millions of federal employees won't get paid, on top of a million active duty troops. those who rely on food assistance may not have access to it. there could also be serious disruptions to air travel with flights delayed, completely cancelled. the ramifications can be spread far and wide. and let's get straight to "the source" tonight with the former vice president and current 2024 presidential candidate, mike pence. mr. vice president, thank you for being here. we appear to be just 24 hours away from a government shutdown. do you believe that it's worth shutting the government down for these demands from the lawmakers on the far right? will the party be any better off after a shutdown happens? >> well, first, let me say, you know, we have a debt in this country now for the first time since world war ii. and i welcome efforts by republicans in the house and the senate to take a stand for fiscal responsibility. but, you know, i have been through one of these government shutdowns during our administration. i've been through a few back when i was a member of congress. kaitlan, i'm confident that they'll sort through it. what's disappointing to me and, i think, millions of americans is that all the arguments that will lead to this shutdown and may lead -- may have the government shut down in terms of non-essential workers and programs for some days or even weeks as we saw in the past, at the end of the day we're still not talking about the primary causes of the national debt. and i truly do believe that the time has come for us to elect leadership to the white house that will square with the american people and bring common sense reforms to the entitlement programs that are 70% of the federal budget. essentially what we're driving toward a government shutdown over only touches 10% of the federal budget. and i think the time has come to put our nation back on a path of fiscal solvency. joe biden's policy is insolvency. he won't even talk about entitlement reform. in fairness, former president trump's policy is identical to joe bidens. i'm willing to take it on if i'm president of the united states. we'll bring those reforms for younger americans and put social security and medicare on a solid foundation as well. >> i know that's something you've criticized both of those leaders for before. when it comes to these negotiations, we just heard from speaker mccarthy a few moments ago saying the senate needs to drop the ukraine funding from its plan in order to pass the house. you've heard from senator mcconnell who says, he believes there's no excuse for congress not to support more aid to ukraine. do you believe that speaker mccarthy is wrong here? >> well, i think, you know, kaitlan, i was and have been one of the strongest voices in the republican field for continuing to provide the ukrainian military with the support they need to defeat and repel the russian invasion. i think, frankly, i think any faltering support among republicans is more a reflection of the fact that joe biden has done a terrible job explaining what our national interest is. we hear these speeches about democracy and the world, when i believe that giving the ukrainian military what they need to defeat that russian invasion is in our national interest because i have no doubt if vladimir putin overruns ukraine, it's not going to be long before he crosses a border of a nato country that our soldiers will be required to go and fight. so, i believe in that old reagan doctrine that, if you're willing to fight the communists in your country, we'll give you the means to fight them there so we don't have to fight them. so, i stand strongly for the principle. it's important, with accountability, not a blank check. but it's important that the united states continue to provide the ukrainian military what they need. and i am hopeful, as they move forward, resolving this budget impasse, that some level of funding will be able to continue to support ukraine's effort against the russian invasion. >> i heard that comment about a blank check also on the debate stage on wednesday night from people like governor ron desantis. i don't know anyone who's advocating for a blank check for ukraine. but also you didn't hear a ton of specifics from your fellow 2024 republican candidates on what -- the one who is don't advocate for more funding for ukraine, as far as how to resolve this on wednesday night. what did you make of that? >> yeah, i mean, i heard ron desantis say he's going to end the war and never said how he's going to end the war. donald trump says he'll end the war in a day. the only way you could end the ukraine war in a day is if you gave vladimir putin everything he wants. and that actually is what vivek ramaswamy is proposing. let him keep what he has grabbed through this brutal and unconscionable invasion and promise him that ukraine will never be in nato. look, there is no substitute for american leadership on the world stage. this is wione of those moments that i believe america needs to continue to exercise our role as leader of the free world, marshal our allies in the west to do even more than they've done before. because as i said, in that same debate that got a little sporty and got a little loud, i still wanted to make the point that, boy, if vladimir putin rolls over ukraine, that'll -- and we allow it to happen -- that will give a green light to xi and comm communist china to roll into taiwan. i think the best way forward for peace on the world stage is to continue to provide american support and american leadership, as ukraine fights for their territory and sovereignty. >> sporty is one word for it. speaking of the military, today in washington, general mark milley swore in the next chairman of the joint chiefs of staff. he made this comment in his parting remarks from his role. >> we don't take an oath to a country. we don't take an oath to a tribe. we don't take an oath to a religion. we don't take an oath to a king or a queen or a tyrant or a dictator. and we don't take an oath to a wannabe dictator. we take an oath to the constitution, and we take an oath to the idea that, as america, and we're willing to die to protect it. >> it was quite clear who he was talking about there. what was your reaction to that moment? >> well, look, i haven't agreed with every decision that the chairman of the joint chiefs has made in the last two years with a lot of the woke politics that have made their way into the pentagon. but i expect all of that's coming out of the biden white house. and i'm grateful for general milley's long career of service in the uniform of the united states. kaitlan, i don't know who he was referring to there, but i must tell you that donald trump's recent comments regarding general milley were inexcusable. when you think of general milley's incredible year of service in the uniform of the united states, to make the kind of statements the former president made are just unacceptable. it's one of the reasons why i -- everywhere i go across the country -- and i think it might be a reflection of the way i've tried to carry myself over my career. people come up to me and they thank me for commitment to civility. they -- i think the american people long for us to restore a threshold of civility and move past this season of personal invective that, frankly, has -- it's infected our politics for a whole lot longer than during the year of our administration. it's been around for a while, and i think the american people want to see better. >> but we saw it really at the forefront. it is very clear that he was talking about former president trump. i mean, do you agree that donald trump is a wannabe dictator? >> well, what i agree with is what general milley said about the oath men and women in uniform take. my son's a captain in the marine corp. my son-in-law is a lieutenant in the united states navy. and kaitlan, as i recounted in my book, in the days leading up to january 6th, two and a half years ago, my son, the marine, looked at me at one point and said, dad, you took the same oath i took, and that is to support and defend the constitution of the united states. i know by god's grace i did my duty that day. i can't affirm or comment on what or who general milley was referring to. but i can affirm his eloquent reference to the men and women who served in the uniform in the united states today and throughout the history of this country. >> i'll just say clearly -- vice president, clearly trump thought he was referring to him because he responded to that after, calling general milley a moron. he added that the man he picked to be defense secretary, mark esper, called him a, quote, woke fool. obviously this is after what you referenced there. trump implied that general milley should be executed for treason. are those comments beyond the pale in your view? >> as i said, his earlier comments regarding general milley were inexcusable. and really have no place in the public debate. but i think it's one of the reasons why, despite what some of the national polls may show, i think republican primary voters know that we need new leadership, not just in the white house, but in the republican party. and that's why i'll be back in iowa first thing in the morning, and we're going to continue to take our case of a commitment of that broad-based conservative agenda that's defined our movement for years. but also, you know, i was inspire bid ronald reagan to become a republican and it was his conservative agenda. it was his optimism, and it was his civility, i think, that made it possible for him to lead an administration that revived the country. >> you talk about civility -- >> changed the world. >> you talk about civility at length and you said, you think republican voters know. do they? right now trump is running away with the race. lately he has called for the parent company of a news network to be investigated for treason. he's vowing retribution if he wins. he's saying he will go after and target his political opponents. with comments like that, do you believe that he is a threat if he returns to the oval office? >> look, i -- you know, i spent four years trying to explain donald trump's words, and i'm out of that business now, kaitlan. what i can tell you is -- >> but you know him better than anyone else who was on that stage. >> everywhere i go, republican voters believe that joe biden has weakened this country at home and abroad. i mean, we're struggling in this economy. we have the worst border crisis in american history. that disastrous withdrawal from afghanistan. >> with all due respect, this isn't about president biden. it's about the republican front runner, mr. vice president. >> i hear you and i know you love to focus on national polls. i'll tell you what's happening on the ground is a lot more dynamic than it looks in the day in and day out polling you might see. i'm convinced that well more than half republican primary voters know that we need a change. and i'm going to continue to work my heart out to earn the right to be our standard bearer and to carry us to victory. one of the polls i really liked recently, kaitlan, had me beating joe biden 52-46 by the widest margin by any others in the field. we'll continue to carry that message. i have great confidence in republican primary voters and caucus voters in iowa. >> i've heard you say that before. but it's not just one cherry picked poll or something like that. the polls roundly show that trump is ahead, and he's making comments like that, accusing the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, implying that he has committed treason. today he was making light of an attack on a prominent political figure's spouse in california. obviously former speaker pelosi's husband. with those comments and saying that news networks should be investigated for treason, is that someone who you believe is unfit to be back in the oval office? is it a threat to the united states if he's back there? >> well, i'm running for president of the united states because i believe our party and our country need new leadership. and i've been very clear about that. >> but no republican will really directly criticize him. i think that's what stands out to people when they watch a debate stage like they did on wednesday night. there are these thinly veiled, kind of, criticisms of donald trump. no one is sounding the alarm about the comments he's been making. >> well, i think if you rewind the tape, you're not the first person i've spoken to about general milley. i've been very forthright about that. i've been very critical of donald trump's plan to pass a 10% tax on all imports into the united states of america. and of course i said from the time that i announced for president going forward, i think no one who puts himself above the constitution should ever be president of the united states. and i'm going to continue to speak plainly about that. but i have to tell you, republican primary voters are less focused on the field of republican candidates and the former president as they are on the disastrous policies of the biden administration, kaitlan. but, as this fall continues to go forward, as the caucus happens on january 15th, new hampshire after that, i think people are going to continue to focus, to dial in. and i'm more convinced than ever that republican primary voters know that donald trump had his time, but joe biden doesn't even know what time it is. and we need leadership in the white house that can bring our country back. >> -- the comment specifically that i'm asking you about your former boss, someone that you know very well. >> say again. you -- it -- what was your question? >> i just think it's -- i understand that your focus is on president biden. he's the current occupant of the white house. but to actually run against president biden, donald trump is far and away the front runner. and i just think it's notable you're not specifically addressing these comments, the ones on paul pelosi, the ones on going after news networks for investigating them for treason, going after his political opponents. >> kaitlan, kaitlan, if i addressed everything donald trump said every day, i'd talk about nothing else. as i said, i have already addressed in previous interviews my concern about the comments about general milley. but also, i went up to new hampshire a couple of weeks ago, and i said, we've come to a republican time for choosing. i joined the republican party because i was drawn to the party by ronald reagan and by an agenda of american leadership and the world, strong defense, limited government, less taxes, traditional moral values. but i see donald trump and some of his imitators in this race literally walking away from that agenda and embracing a pop ewe lims unmoored to conservative principles. think about it for a second. where we stood with our allies and stood up to our enemies, donald trump and others in the field are embracing this policy of appeasement and isolationism that's growing in our country. where we cut taxes, donald trump is advocating what could be one of the largest tax increases in history. and he won't even talk about dealing with the national debt. on the right to life, we had a pro-life administration, appointed the judges that gave america a new beginning for life, returned the question of abortion to the states and the american people. now donald trump has taken to blaming overturning roe versus wade on election losses a couple of years ago and saying that a pro life bill that protects unborn babies when a heart beat is detected -- he described that as a terrible mistake. those are real departures from the agenda that we governed under and the agenda that really has defined the pubrepublican py for decades. if i'm president of the united states, i'm going to lead our security back to security and prosperity on that broad-based conservative agenda. >> former vice president, i think it's notable you'll talk about his positions but not his comments. thank you for your time tonight, former vice president mike pence. >> thank you, kaitlan. we also have some breaking news just in regarding special counsel jack smith's investigation and prosecutors request for a limited gag order for former president donald trump. one of donald trump's codefendants has just pleaded guilty in the election interference case. breaking news tonight, with a brand-new filing just in from the team of special counsel jack smith, in a fight that is playing out right now in these court filings over a partial gag order request for donald trump in the election interference case. all of this has to do with trump's own words. and this is what's in the filing tonight. jack smith quoting trump's post that we were just talking about with former vice president there about general milley, saying, essentially that he had committed treason, baselessly, obviously saying that, that he deserved to be executed. of course remember milley could be a witness in one or both of trump's federal cases. we know he's spoken to investigators at least once. and in this filing, smith notes that milley is a known witness. as we reported back in may, he spoke with those investigators. that had to do with the classified documents. but also trump's actions at large. also tonight in another development, this time in the georgia case, we have the first guilty plea in any of trump's four criminal cases. this is for scott hall. he's the bail bondsman that's accused of plotting with sidney powell to breach election equipment in the state of georgia. but he has now agreed to flip, to testify for the prosecution in that case. for more on all of these developments that are coming in tonight, even the last-minute ones, we have elie honig and kelly cordero with us. i want to start with you. this was moments before we came on air that we got this filing from jack smith in this fight that's playing out in the gag order. he's using trump's own words against him telling judge chutkan that these attacks and the attacks on people in smith's own office are making it more urgent and they need this gag order. do you think it makes it more likely? >> for sure, kaitlan. i think donald trump's statements about mark milley are and should be the prosecution's exhibit a in the request for this gag order. if you look at doj's original gag order from earlier this week, they asked for a gag order from donald trump saying anything, quote, disparaging about essentially any parties in the case. he's allowed to say disparaging things. you can say disparaging things about a judge or prosecutor. they have to thick skin. but here is where the line is. you can't make a statement that crosses over from disparaging into a threat against a known witness. and i think the statement he made about mark milley satisfied both of those latter criteria as a perfect sample of why the judge should issue at least a limited gag order. >> and he's attacking milley more tonight, calling him a moron since that filing happened. carrie, i want to ask you about the other development because this could be just as significant when it comes to what's happening in georgia. scott hall was one of the first people to turn himself in. he's accused of being in cahoots with sidney powell in voting machines. how being a victory is this for the district attorney office in this case? >> i think it's a step forward. obviously the district attorney is going to be pleased any time that they are able to resolve any of the defendants with a guilty plea. it keeps them from having to go to trial in that particular case. it's a win. now, notably, this individual, it looks like the plea is for misdemeanors. he doesn't look like he'll serve any jail time. and he will testify against some of the other witnesses. but it does, i think, also highlight that each of these defendants, because the d.a. charged so many people in this case, each of these defendants is really differently situated. so, the case against the former president and some of those closest to him is different than individuals like mr. hall, who can plead out to misdemeanors. >> ellie, what's your question when you see this? he is taking that plea deal, getting probation for misdemeanors. do you expect that he's just the first of many to potentially take this route here? >> i do, kaitlan. this is how prosecutors build cases. you flip one person. you hope to flip that person up the chain to the next person and so on. there's really two of the defendants here i think should be particularly worried about scott hall's cooperation. as you said in the intro, sidney powell, because she's charged along with scott hall in that scheme to hack into or access without permission the voting systems down in coffee county. but also jeffrey clark, the doj official, who by the way lost his removal motion today. he's having a very bad day. scott hall had a one-hour-long conversation with jeffrey clark on january 2nd of 2021. and now prosecutors are going to know all about what was said during that call. so, this is a very big step forward for prosecutors. >> that's a really good point and something to watch closely. thank you for joining me on this friday night. >> thanks, kaitlan. also tonight, as we look at this, a fixture of the senate is gone. democrat diane feinstein casting her final vote just yesterday before passing away at the age of 90. when we return, someone who helped that trailblazer with some of her most defining work in the senate, as we look back at her legacy. tonight from washington to california, people are mourning the loss of a political giant. senator dianne feinstein, the longest serving woman in senate history, died at her d.c. home at the age of 90. she cast her last vote just yesterday. word of her death prompted a moment of silence and a motion from the senate majority leader chuck schumer. >> so, today, we grieve. we look at that desk, and we know what we have lost. >> there was one description of the late senator that you heard repeatedly today, trailblazer. feinstein broke her first barrier when she became the first woman mayor of san francisco, a bittersweet milestone. it was bourn out of tragedy. the assassination of the supervisor harvey milk, who was the first openly gay elected official in the state of california. >> i walked down the line of supervisors' offices and found harvey milk, put my finger in a bullet hole trying to get a pulse. it was the first person i'd ever seen shot to death. and that began a saga. i became mayor as a product of assassination, of the mayor being killed and the first openly gay public official being killed by a friend and colleague of mine. >> that tragedy went on to define her battle for gun control and the passing of the assault weapons ban in 1994, which of course has since expired. but she never stopped fighting for it. she never let glass ceilings stop her either. she became california's first woman elected to the u.s. senate in 1992. her run was sparked by her anger while watching the confirmation hearings of justice clarence thomas. >> what did i see but an all male senate judiciary committee grilling anita hill. and it was not nice. and it was not what one would like to see. and that was my incentive to run in 1992. >> tonight, her colleagues are recalling her passion for service, her grit, her grace, her integrity. as the first chairwoman of the senate intelligence committee, she released a report on the cia torture program after 9/11 in defiance of national security officials and then president obama. >> history will judge us by our commitment to a just society governed by law and the willingness to face an ugly truth and say, never again. there may never be the right time to release this report, but this report the too important to shelve indefinitely. >> that report on how the cia detained and interrogated suspected terrorists is a big part of her legacy. and the lead investigator for that report, daniel jones, is with me now. daniel, i'm so grateful you're here to talk about that massive part of her legacy. first, just given the work you did for her, i want to get your reaction to her passing tonight. >> well, thank you so much for having me. i mean, it's an honor to speak about senator feinstein's legacy. she was a trailblazer. she was a leader. that report, which was so important to our country to make sure we don't engage in those activities again, simply wouldn't have happened without senator feinstein. >> it is such a defining aspect of that. and you're talking about how it wouldn't have happened without her. it pitted her against two different presidents from two different parties. how significant, in your view, is the role that she played in a public accounting of the cia's conduct? >> well, as people know, senator feinstein was one of the biggest supporters of the intelligence community, of the department of defense. she's often known as one of the big defenders of controversial programs. she was uniquely positioned to take on the oversight program that look at the cia's interrogation techniques. she demanded we look at these facts as we uncover them and document in a way that is extremely bipartisan, approach it in a cold and calculated position where every fact we had, we had to have footnotes. that report was 6,800 pages. it has 38,000 footnotes. and it found basically three things. one is that the cia's torture was ineffective. two, the cia lied -- the bush administration, the obama administration, the department of justice, and the american people. and three, it was massively mismanaged. she went up against the bush and obama administrations to get that report released, or at least an executive summary of about 500 pages of it released. >> she felt the redactions in it were worth getting what was able to get out there. she faced so many objections about this. at the time, the fbi, dhs, they were warning law enforcement agencies about being on heightened alert in light of that report. and she was talking to my colleague, wolf blitzer, at the time about it and defended it, telling him this. >> was it worth it to release this report today if in fact american lives were the diplomats, military personnel, civilians are going to be in danger? >> look, there is no perfect time to release this report. this began 12 years ago. there have been attacks without this report coming out. this doesn't mean that we shouldn't clean our house. and i think john mccain said it very well of what america is all about. we admit our mistakes. we commit ourselves to never let these mistakes happen again. >> obviously mccain's support was so critical at that time. if she had not gotten this release, daniel, where do you think the u.s. would be? >> well, i mean, i don't think we would have the -- on the table as we have them. dianne feinstein did not think our country was perfect, but she thought what made it great was our ability to shine a flashlight on our problems and correct them and make sure they don't ever happen again. and again, that report would not exist without her steadfast leadership. >> your work on that as well, daniel jones. thank you for joining us on such a big part of her legacy tonight. >> thank you. my pleasure. and we are live tonight also on capitol hill, as president biden is laying out the stakes of what is going to happen if the clock strikes midnight tomorrow with still no funding deal in sight. we just have a little over 24 hours before the government is set to shut down, as tonight speaker mccarthy is now pushing things off to the senate after he failed earlier today to get republicans in the house to pass anything that could potentially keep the government open. cnn's melanie zanona is live for us on capitol hill tonight. melanie, what's happening? is there any deal being formed? are we any closer than we were 24 hours ago to getting any kind of funding deal? >> no. house republicans are scrambling to come up with a plan to avoid a government shutdown, even after they huddled for nearly two hours tonight in the capitol to talk about their limited options. there is still no consensus on what, if anything, they are going to bring to the house floor tomorrow. speaker mccarthy signalled he could be open to a more simple stopgap spending bill, as long as it doesn't include money for ukraine. that is a bit of a different posture for kevin mccarthy who up until this point has said any bill to fund the government needs include border security. that failure to rally around a gop plan has created some tension in the ranks. let's take a listen. >> we're the governing majority. this is what we're supposed to do as a governing majority. we're supposed to lead. and it's kind of hard to lead when you've got a significant number of people that are on the wrong snap count when you call the play. so, that's where we are. >> they killed the most conservative position we could take and then called themselves the real conservatives which is like make that make sense. >> in january we promised 12 appropriations bills. we should have stayed here in august. i didn't set the calendar. someone else did. >> the senate will take a procedural vote tomorrow on a bipartisan plan to fund the government, which does include ukraine money. but they cannot vote on final passage until potentially as monday. the bottom line here kaitlan is there is still no clear plan to avoid a government shutdown which is now just 24 hours away. >> melanie, it seems like republicans are confused about what republicans are doing here. if mccarthy is saying, i'll take this but not that, that doesn't seem that's going to answer the requests from the hardliners who say they don't want any short-term bill to happen. >> the reason why there's so much confusion is because kevin mccarthy himself has floated a number of different things. they are trying to do a whip count tonight to try to really talk a temperature check to see where republicans are. but that's the bottom line here. there's a lot of confusion and tomorrow is the last day before they have a government funding deadline. >> seems pretty clear that's going to happen tomorrow. melanie zanona, thank you. for a quarter of a century, the family of the murdered hip hop icon tupac shakur has been waiting for justice. today a suspect now in custody. the story next. dwayne keith davis has been charged with the murder of tupac shakur. what happened that night in 1996 on the crowded las vegas strip was a violent chapter in a really transcendent life. p. frank williams covered this skoir for the l.a. times and as a former editor of "the source," the magazine, not to be confused with the show he's appearing on, is also one of the filmmakers behind "who killed tupac." and he joins me now. i'm so grateful you're here. because after 27 years it is notable that it's duane keith davis's own words that led to this moment tonight. >> yeah, i mean, it's a cultural juggernaut moment for hip-hop culture. i think this is a long-awaited verdict. i mean, not verdict but arrest. he was telling himself the whole time. it's not like the vegas cops didn't know. they sat him in a room days after this. i think sometimes you put it out in the zeitgeist and i think the vegas cops probably were a little embarrassed that this guy's talking everywhere and they can't arrest him. i think it's a long time coming. for the shakur family i think it's a fantastic day. >> i think that's the biggest question that people had when they saw is why now. why did it take so long? >> as a person who wrote this stuff about tupac in the '90s and who killed tupac with ben crump and those things, you guys at cnn do a great job. african american men are not thought of as people they want to get justice for. i don't think that the vegas pd was very pressed. but i think it came to a moment where keefy d. who had already been bragging about this in orlando said he did it multiple times. he had a documentary, he had a book. at some point you can't let a guy who said he was in a car and i passed someone else the gun not be rested. cops had been in bed with this guy and he turned down another case against him and made a case back in the day. >> when you look at this moment, it has been so many years -- >> 27 years. >> 27 years. which is just kind of -- it's kind of hard to even fathom but also in this moment it's still something people talk about all the time. it is a point of cultural fascination. what does it mean for the community overall that this is now something that is being brought to the light again? >> well, you know, the thing is it's ironic. how many people that you can talk about 27 years after their death and they were only 25 and you still talk about them at this level. this guy made a -- he was a cultural revolutionary. he was the malcolm x, martin luther king of hip-hop. and i think the thing to think about tupac that still resonates is that he touched your soul. he wrote "dear mama," "keep your head up." these aren't songs about let me be a gangster, these are songs about his mother as a human being. my kids who are 18-year-old twins, for them tupac represents the emotional freedom, the willingness to do something and break outside of the bounds. so you know, today i got my black panther pin on. tupac like myself is a child of the black panther party. he was a revolutionary. and i think today it's finally a justice. so shout out to his brother mo preem, his sister set. and i wish afini was here. she deserves this day. >> i'm so glad you brought up his family. what does a moment like this mean for them after those 27 years? >> well, like you said, i've been covering the case since the day i was at the hospital after he got shot. imagine if your family member was killed and you knew some of the guys were out there and still free. so i think for me it's a moment of closure. you just want somebody arrested. the other three gentlemen who were in the car that night, they're all deceased. so this is the last chance i think for las vegas pd to really kind of make up for lost time. so for them hopefully it's some closure. there's no way that you're going to make up for what -- imagine what tupac shakur would have been at 30 or 35 years old. he predicted barack obama, by the way, my president's black. shout out to pac. i wish you were here instead of me on this show. but i'm glad you got some justice my brother. >> that's heartbreaking to think of what could have come next for him. i'm just so grateful you're joining on this given how closely you followed it. were you surprised by this today? did you ever think that this day would come? >> no, i didn't, actually, to be honest. i thought that -- to be completely transparent i never thought that the vegas pd wanted to solve the murder of a young black man who was talking about f the police and was a young black panther. i don't think it was on their list of to-do. but i think the pressure from the puck, the media, the new documentary i just had on fx, whatever i've done on a&e or fox or source it was time. every american deserves justice. don't you want your kids to have justice? if they got murdered in broad daylight, or not broad daylight, one of the public places in the whole world. so i'm glad justice is finally here. and again, i keep coming back to afinney. i wish she would have saw this day as a mother to see justice for her son. rest in peace tupac. and i hope keffe gets what's deserved to him. it's time. >> we'll continue to follow these charges closely. p. frank williams, thank you for joining us on it tonight. >> have a great night. >> very grateful for you. meanwhile, here in new york there was record-setting rain. it overwhelmed the city today. it sent life-threatening flood waters into basements, subways, buses. it turned roadways into rivers. the washout that took millions and some city officials by surprise. tonight, millions of people in new york city and other parts of the northeast are dealing with a flash flood emergency. when the storm finally passes tomorrow, several months, yes, months' worth of rain will have fallen in just 24 hours. streets turned into rivers. this is what it looked like in brooklyn today. at laguardia airport some travelers were forced to wrap plastic bags around their feet just to get through the standing water that had filled the airport. elsewhere they had to bring in heavy machinery for water rescues. in new jersey this police officer carried a man on his shoulders after he was