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welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. the first guilty plea in the georgia election case for efforts to steal electoral votes. this guilty plea from a bail bondsman scott hall, one of 18 co-defendants carjack chad alongside donald trump. plus a fight over the home of glamorous actress marilyn monroe. should this home be protected as an historic site or should it be knock ed down to make room for new red hot real estate. and leading this hour, the odds of a government shutdown are now higher than willie nelson taking a tour of a.m. dam. one day until the government runs out of funding and there's no clear path to a solutions. a last-ditch measure failed in the house. 21 republicans crossed over to vote with democrats, eeb house republican leaders say they are in the dark about where to go from here. it's up to the speak er. it's not including active duty troops or any of their families. on average, federal workers earn between $55,000 and $65,000 a year. average pay for an army staff sergeant with 8 years experience, $48,500 a year. most of these folks cannot afford to miss a payday. perhaps this could be lost on the average member of congress, who makes $174,000 per year, and who will, by the way, continue to be paid during the shutdown. so this will not impact their wallets and their purses, even if they are not doing their jobs. and many of the others are expected to keep doing theirs. the longer this shutdown lasts, the more we're all going to feel the impacts. tsa agents, air traffic controllers might stop showing up to work. so perhaps you shouldn't get too attached to any flight plans you have. fda food safety inspections might be disrupted to enjoy those hot dogs while you can. manu raju is on capitol hill, where time to avoid a shutdown is running out. kevin mccarthy meeting with house republicans behind closed doors right behind you. what is he telling them? is there any sort of plan? this is, after all, his job. and in no small part, his fault. >>. >> reporter: he is telling his colleague, i'm told from people in the room, there are no good options left. he has not said what his preferred plan is. that's the big question. i'm told he laid out several ways it can go. they can move forward on a plan to keep the government open, the same plan that failed just this afternoon when 21 house republicans joined with democrats to sink from measure from concerns that the spend lg cutting were not enough. he said they can simply extend current funding with no provisions attached dare democrats to vote against it. that's something that a lot of republicans won't accept over here. he also accept ed that they can sepp the senate plan, which he said he opposes because of the inclusion in ukraine aid and noninclusion in border security money. this comes as the tension was palpable among some of the republicans in the aftermath of that failed vote. finger pointing among some of the more moderate members against hard liners who brought that down. >> they killed the most conservative position we could take. and then called themselves the real conservatives, which is like make that make sense. >> there's one person to blame for any potential government shutdown and that's matt gaetz. >> will not pass a resolution on terms that continue america's decline. >> so then the question is, what is next? the senate is still moving along bipartisan lines to try to get a bill through, but that may not be out of that chamber until potentially monday leaving it a couple days after the government shutdown deadline and the house speaker not embracing that plan. a lot of uncertainty and expectation that the government will shut down over divisions among republicans, not just in the house gop, but senate gop, as the shutdown, if it happens, it could extend for some time. the only question is how long? >> and neither kevin mccarthy nor matt gaetz, who are at odds, neither is proposing anything that could get through the senate and be signed by president biden. right? >> there's no question about it. the bill that would have went, if it were approved in the house, it would have been r rejected by the senate. so therein lies the problem for speaker mccarthy. if you were to move to cut a deal, that threat to push him out of the speakership continues to linger over him. something that he fully recognizes. all could play out. >> all of this was predictable. back in january, minnanu raju, thank you. with us now is james clyburn. good to see you. five days ago, and maybe you were just being kind, you said a government shutdown was not a fore gone conclusion. and you did not think we would get to the point of a shutdown. where are you today? >> thank you very much for having me. five days ago, it was not a fore gone conclusion. even at the moment, it does not have to be. the fact of the matter is, i think the senate is putting together a very good plan that if the speaker were to sit down with the democratic leader hakeem jeffries, and i'm sure he's got 150, 160 people in his conference, i think from the vote today, there was 98 or 9d 9 votes that wanted to keep this government open. and let's do a bipartisan piece of legislation. we can do that. all he has to do is put the country above his politics. his politics dictate that he's got to get jerked around by 15 to 20 people, and the country dictates that we need to keep people working, keep people safe, keep this country moving forward. >> but the problem is you know is that mccarthy agreed, as part of the condition of him becoming speaker, to one vote for a motion to vacate on the floor of the house, mean ing matt gaetz, and he's threatened this many times, can go to the floor and offer a motion to vacate and he needs 218 votes to keep his job as speaker. he might not have them. would democrat dots that? would you do that? >> there are circumstances in which i i could vote for him to maintain his speakership. a lot depends upon whether or not he's willing to put what the senate is doing on the floor. they have marked up to the agreement. we had an agreement back in the spring. he knows the agreement. he know it is. and the senate has been adhering to that agreement. the house is refusing. so put the senate bill on the floor. take care of ukraine. do what is necessary to protect people with these disasters that we need to face up to these wildfires, et cetera. and i do believe the senate is amenable to doing something about border security. but what we must do is keep people safe, keep travel going. we cannot close down our airports, and we cannot subject travelers to unsafe conditions. and we should keep federal employees happy. keep them in a positive way. so they can do their jobs and the country can continue to move forward. that's not a hard thing for him to do. but he needs to sut down with hakeem jeffreys and hmer out those agreements. >> politico is reporting that matt gaetz is reaching out to house democrats to solicit their help to oust mccarthy from the speakership. i guess he's reaching out to people in the progressive caucus. i assume you have not heard from him. but what would you say to your fellow democrats who are working with gaetz, to get rid of mccar thu. >> i'd like to know what it is he thinks we'll get ting out of getting rid of mccar thi. what do we get for that? i would much rather us look at what the country needs, let's lock at whether or not we can do a bipartisan continuing resolution. if not a bipartisan funded bill for the next congress. and let that be our north star. not whether or not we protect his politics. whether or not we protect the people of the country. so if you're going to do something in a bipartisan way, let it be doing what the people need rather than what the politics of matt gaetz dictate. he's being political. and no democrat, conservative or moderate or liberal or progressive, we're not going to play that game. i don't think you'll get anybody on our side to play with him. >> before we go, sir, as a trailblazer yourself, i'm wondering if you have thoughts on the passing of another trailblazer, senator dianne feinstein of california. >> yes, i do. i didn't know her personally. i have interacted with her on more than one occasion. i always found her to be a great person to work with. a perp of honor. i remember how she got into politic ticks. those days in california and the kind of things she worked on were things that were near and dear to me. that kind of stuff. she was just a great person for california and for the nation as well. >> democratic congressman james clyburn, thank you so much. coming up next, new information about the first guilty plea on the georgia election subversion case. we could see one of the co-defendants testify. plus a culture of abuse and corruption that may date back 150 years. the entire baton rouge police department in louisiana under fire after lawsuits reveal a strip search. but the allegations go much, much wider. some breaking news tops our law and justice lead. the first trump codefendant to plead guilty in the georgia election case has agreed to testify in any future proceedings and trials as part of this plea deal. his name is scott hall, and he pleaded to guilty to five count. he will avoid jail time. donald trump and 17 others are facing charges in this case related to efforts to try to overturn the results of the 2020 election in the state and steal georgia's electoral votes. joining us is katelyn polantz and jessica snider. walk us through the details of the plea deal. >> the first guilty plea in this georgia case -- >> and there will be more. >> this is the fist of many. he pleaded guilty to five misdemeanors all related to his interference with the voting systems in coffee county. that means he has to pay a fine. there will be five years of probation. he has to write a letter of apology, but crucially part of this plea deal is he agreed to testify truthfully in any proceedings related to this case, including trials. so that will inevitably make some of the other defendants think object what they need to do whether they need to plead guilty, agree to a plea deal with prosecutors, this is a turning point for sure pretty early on. >> and fulton county prosecutors suggestaled they could offer plea deals to sidney powell, who is -- donald trump said she was cr crazy. and kenneth chesebro of wisconsin, the alleged master mind behind the fake electors scheme. what is the likelihood they might take those plea deals? >> so far, their attorneys are signaling they won't. they are digging in their heels. they are mounting this defense. chesebro's attorney said these charges need to be dropped. that's the only way that we're not going to trial here indicating they will not take a plea deal. but the developments today in georgia with scott hall, it really does begin to put the pressure on and the more defendants that agree to the plea deals, the more pressure. we're a few week was from chesebro and powell and the start of the trial. there's not much time left. >> and former justice department official jeffrey clark, he was the one trump was thinking about appointing temporary acting attorney general and was going to tell states to overturn the results. he wanted to move his case. he was denied that. slar to what happened to mark med dose. >> he's part of a line of people that are trying to do that. they wanted to get the case in a place that might be a little more friendly, which can he thought was federal court. it's not going to. happen for him. mark meadows has an appeal on the table where the federal system is going to look at whether he can move his case, but what we're seeing happening here with mark meadows, before the trial judge asking for that and not getting that relief, with jeff clark and there's fake elector this is made a bid that's a long shot, with all of these people, we're seeing the pieces of the trial in fulton county, georgia, come into place. there's going to be a trial set with jury selection to begin at the end of october. that's the chesebro and powell trial. there are other defendants that have to make decisions, just like scott hall did today, because the cases aren't getting split up in a lot of different ways. they are not getting moved into different court systems. so the reason that clark wasn't able to move his case today when the judge looked at it, it was that he didn't have any evidence to be able to make the claim that what he was doing was part of his job at the justice department to try to look into an election in georgia. he didn't present ims evidence to that. even when his attorney tried to argue it's plausible that donald trump told him to do these things as the president overseeing a man in the justice department in the administration, there was no evidence to that effect. and that will likely come up at trial. >> the judge really shot that down. he said this was no part of your job. you're assistant attorney general and you should not have been doing this. >> it turns out regardless of what they think about the election that evidence actually matters. >> it does. imagine that. thank you so much. then there's donald trump himself, what is he telling supporters as his legal cases continue to stack up. plus only in los angeles would someone want to demolish the house that belonged to marilyn monroe because theyment the real estate. the fight to keep it standing, ahead. the power goes out and we still have wifi to do our homework. and that's a good thing? great in my book! who are you? no power? no problem. introducing storm-ready wifi. now you can stay reliably connected through power outages with unlimited cellular data and up to 4 hours of battery back-up to keep you online. only from xfinity. home of the xfinity 10g network. the 2024 lead, we have the muszic going. moments ago, trpresident trump took the stage in front of republicans to firm up sport for his 2024 bid. this is two days after he s skipped out of sharing the stage with seven of his rivals at the second republican debate. trump isn't the only presidential candidate there. tim scott, ron desantis and vivek ramaswamy will also a attend. er we are at the convention in anaheim, california, where president trump is still giving the keynote address. it sounds like the speech is being received well, yes? >> reporter: he is still speaking. he has been going about 30 minutes or so. no doubt about it, you heard it from the applause, he is popular in this room. but let's zoom out and give you a bit of perspective on what's happening here in the state. the republican party statewide here in california is desperately seeking relevance in the next election. so the blast time republicans were able to elect someone statewide here in california, it was in 2006. if you look the at the voting data in this state from the secretary of state, the latest i could find just under half of all registered voters are democrats. 24% are republican, 23% are independent. so this room can cheer. it can applaud donald trump because he is a popular figure, no doubt. but for the party leaders who are looking for relevance to win statewide, there is some concern that they have to have independent, they have to have democrats if they want to win statewide. >> the state party is debating a a rule change on the distribution of delegates during the primary. what does that change about how it might affect the winner? >> so this is something that the state party has decided. so what the rule change is that anyone who is 50 plus 1, the previous was a breakdown by percentage of win. but now it's going to be winner take all, if you are 50 plus 1. and that is 169 delegates. so certainly, moving up the calendar to super tuesday, having that high number of delegates available, it makes california very relevant,s especially this election for the republicans. >> thank you so much. let's bring in my panel. you're the californian here. david offered this it assessment the on wednesday night's debate in california. and the other seven republican candidates vying to be an alternative to trump. he siaid, republican primary voters don't care about policy. what they want is a proven record of violence, sexual assault and financial fraud. obviously, that is harsh and snarky, but it is hard to escape the fact that it looks very strongly as though donald trump will be the nominee. nobody has voted yet, but polls suggest strongly as of now, it looks like donald trump is still heavily favored. >> you cannot emphasize enough how that rule change is going to help him with that. if he reaches that 50% threshold, that's a lot of d delegates he's winning. there's a lot of enthusiasm for him right now. i spent a whole year and a half campaigning up and down the state of california. i got to see it firsthand. people really believe that he is the person who ought to carry the mantle forward. even people who have doubts about the personal issues, they see him as a strong standard barer. so i'm not surprised to see 1700 in that ballroom today. i want to say that's three or four times more than ron desantis has attracted later today. a lot measure when tim scott is there. so there's a lot of enthusiasm, a lot of interest, notwithstanding what was pointed out in the tweet. >> you worked for trump in 2016. polls indicate that nikki haley, the former ambassador and governor would beat joe biden decisively. and that every other candidate, it's basically a margin of error race. and yet the party seems very committed, as of now, anything could change, to it's a 1 in 10 chance trump does not get the nomination. i remember what you said. >> she's smart. she's the pollster. >> but why? when there's this alternative that is younger, a fresher face, and that according to data has a better chance of winning? >> people love donald trump. social media, you go to rallies, you talk to people, you pull in the gas station, you get in an uber, the guy occupies everybody's conscientious. i'm not sure why. >> he's a minority of americans. >> in the party. i'm not talking about america at large. >> he does up a a lot of time. >> we're going to get waxed in california. but winning these votes is important. and these are big numbers. we're getting a thousand people and we thought it was giant. used to get small people in diners and trump has changed the political dialic because he's fighting for people. he's fighting for average americans. >> he's been a celebrity for decades. >> dr. oz. is wildly popular celebrity and got crushed in the general election to a guy who wears shorts and a hoody to work. >> many pennsylvanians wear shorts and hoodies. but when you look at california in that room, when you look at that room, it's not just the numbers of potential voters. they are looking for money too, which is why the other candidates are there too. that's going to be their ongoing challenge. how can they sustain the money that it takes to run for office when your margins are so wide. is it really going to keep you going? how do you make up for that? knowing that there's a limited pool of voters that you have to appeal to. >> i read this story and immediately wanted to know what you thought. there's a conservative antitrump group called win it back. it's been $6 million in iowa to try to damage trump's standing with republican voters. ads such as this one. >> i would have to say that donald trump did a great job. i always supported him. i supported him in the 16 and in the '20 election, but i didn't like his response to covid. i thought he got led by the bureaucrats. >> that's one approach. and that's kind of like an approach that desantis has take. they have tried a whole bunch of different approaches to go after him, trying to appeal to reallies and conservatives. the "new york times" reports that this memo from this group says after more than 40 different antitrump tv ads, all attempts to undermine his conservative credentials on specific issues were ineffective. in fact, in at least one of them, his popularity went up. so $6 million is a lot of money. it's not working. >> attempts to persuade republican voters that donald trump is not conservative, and therefore, you shouldn't vote for him have been dead on arrival. the wasn't message that had a chance to work was right after the midterms saying just like in that ad, start up with a guy that says i like donald trump. i'm not hostile to trump voters. i am a trump voter. i'm worried he's not the guy to win in 2024. there was a window when that could have worked. but now there are enough polls showing them neck and neck. >> i think the message that could have worked is the loser you're a loser. you lost in '18. we got killed in the midterms. you lost in '22. you're going to lose in '24. you haven't won. that would have been sticky. >> here's where biden comes in. he jumps in in arizona at the mccain institute talking about his relationship with a republican, how they used to work democracy of old together. he's selling a message of he won, and america's democracy is under threat. every time somebody comes under indictment or decides to cut a plea deal,s that's something that appeals not only to democrats, but also to the vast majority of americans. 50% do not identify with a political party. >> you want to bring in the fact that robert f. kennedy jr., who is run ning against president biden in the primary, he is now considering running as an independent. what do you think? do you think that could have an effect? and would he hurt biden or trump? >> we're more likely to have a three or four-way race than a non-trump candidate as a republican nominee. if you look at whether it's robert kennedy, you have this no labels candidate potentially that could be another possibility, and that's a more likely scenario. we can debate who they take share from, but if you have robert f. kennedy and a candidate that was center right, then it becomes an interesting dialic. >> i looked at data. you would assume that rfk because he's doing poorly in polls, would maybe pull more republican voters. but the data i have seen suggests he pulls equally from both sides. his influence would be a little bit unclear. it doesn't benefit one side or another. there's a lot going on today. you have likely seen the alerts about tupac murderer arrest. i will speak with a detective, next. we're back. tell us how you really feel is the phrase that comes to mind. the joint chiefs of staff mark milley colt kalling out his former boss donald trump today. not particularly subtle. take a listen. >> we are unique among the world's armies. we are eunique among the world' militaries. we don't take an oath to a c country, we don't take an oath to a tribe, we don't take an oath to a religion. we don't take an oath to a king or queen or a tyrant or dictator, and we don't take an oath to a want to be dictator. >> we don't take an oath to a want to be tick tauter. this pointed remark after trump suggested that milley should be executed for treason. a remark trump made just a few days ago to the deafening silence of republicans in the house and senate. nearly 30 years ago after tupac was murdered in a drive-by shooting on the las vegas strip, police have finally arrested someone in connection to the crime. dew davis, is now in las vegas police custody after police searched his house as part of their ongoing investigation, where they found a memoir a authored by davis with a suspicious level of detail about the 25-year-old hip hop icon's untimely death. let's get right to greg kaiding a retired police detective, who spent years investigating the murder and wrote a book about it. thank you for joining us. so davis has been on law enforcement's radar for years. he was outspoken about having been at the scene of the crime. why do you think it was so hard to finally pin him down? >> we knew about davis all the way back from his initial confession to law enforcement. we sat him down back in 2009, and he confessed to his role in the murder along with other cocons coconspirators. he had a proffer agreement, so we couldn't utilize that information that he was providing against him. but then he began to go out publicly boast about husband involvement in the murder, and that led to law enforcement in las vegas taking another look at his claims, and ultimately, he's talked himself right into skbral jail. so we have known about his confession since 2009. we knew about his involvement. now it's come to fruition because of all the public statements he's made. >> are those statements enough? does there need to be more evidence beyond those statements? could they not be just explained away in a trial as false brag doesh doeshs? >> we substantiated during our original interview with him. we substantiated nearly every single thing he said during that interview. we knew it was a bonn fied confession. so he's essentially hung himself with this one. it's great to finally see this case come to a point where somebody is being held accountable for the murder. >> this afternoon police said the investigation was, quote, far from over. what is left to look into? what remain? >> we have to take him to trial, if he chooses to go to trial. so it's going to be really interesting how they work this out legally. when you have the primary witness against the defendant, is the defendant himself. this is going to be very unique in the legal realm. how do you prosecute this? so i'm really looking forward to it. it's going to be intriguing. but essentially, we know that davis is the last man standing for those that were responsible for tupac's murder. and it's great to see the case finally get closed. it's no longer a mystery from the public's perception. we have known it for years, but it's always been a matter of it's not what you know, it's what you can prove. >> thank you so much. appreciate you joining us. >> my pleasure. thank you. coming up next, an unbelievable story developing in louisiana. the entire baton rouge police department under fire over an alleged horror in a brave cave. stay with us. the power goes out and we still have wifi to do our homework. and that's a good thing? 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>> thee accused of violating policy, jake. apparently somebody was arrested, they were brought to a police building, and inside this police building, they decided to do a search of him. when the search happened, officers used a taser to try to get the man to comply. at some point, something dropped from the man's body. what they didn't realize at the time is the taser actually activated body cameras that the officers were wearing. at some point, according to the chief of police, someone watched and saw they maybe violated policy. that body camera apparently was destroyed. in trying to destroy it, it wasn't connected to a server, so that's why four officers were arrested this morning in connection with this. when you think about this, you add the brave cave to this, people are astounded about what may have been going on in baton rouge. there's been talk about nine separate administrative investigations, the fbi is looking into this, and there's a federal lawsuit. there was a grandmother who says she was -- had a cavity search and strip-searched after she had prescription drugs after being pulled over. take a listen. >> to put it in terms you can relate to, this is not a time for just an annual checkup. this is time for a full body mri to diagnosis and reveal any dysfunctions or wrongdoings. >> reporter: jake, i talked to community members disparately hoping the federal government steps in to do a review of this police department. they believe there's more to get to the bottom of. ryan young, thank you so much. an i.r.s. contractor is accused of stealing the tax returns of donald trump. details are coming in. we're going to squeeze in a quick break. we'll be back, next. now the breaking news i told you about. an i.r.s. contractor has been charged, accused of stealing donald trump's tax returns and giving them to members of the press. what do we know about these allegations and charges, evan? >> his name is charles littlejohn. he worked for the i.r.s. from 2018 to 2020. according to prosecutors, he's being charged with disseminating the tax information of donald trump. additionally, stealing the tax information of thousands of americans, including the richest americans, and providing that to a news organization. in both cases, the stealing of donald trump's information as well as the wealthy individuals in this country, both were passed to two different news organizations which published articles about it. now, right now the justice department says this is a charge that can carry up to five years in prison, if convicted. jake? >> evan, thank you very much. i know you'll have more on that story in "the situation room" coming up. the pop culture lead now, in los angeles, a clash by night and day over a house in which actress marilyn monroe lived. she died as well in that house. cnn's nick watt explains. >> marilyn monroe made the brevinwood bungalow her home. >> reporter: and she supported the hair and makeup for her fight. >> it was the only home she ever home and the home she tragically died 61 years ago last months. >> marilyn monroe was found dead in bed under circumstances that were in tragic contrast to her glamorous career. >> reporter: an overdose, the coroner said it was probably suicide. more than a year after the release of her final film, "the misfits." >> what makes you so sad? >> i'm usually told how happy i am. >> reporter: the house sold in august for over $8 million. the new owners, who apparently also owned the house next door, applied for a permit, a demolition permit. here in l.a., people love to knock stuff down. >> it is part of the story in l.a. it's also reinventing itself. if you could see sometimes, touch the place, visit the place, the history, the story, the people connected to it are just less real. >> reporter: for now the permit is paused, while city officials debate giving this howls historic status. >> why shouldn't they be allow to do with what they want? >> you could add on, still living, breathing, changing, but still be there to help tell the story. >> monroe fans, conservationists and the council woman are confident they can save this suburban slice of hollywood history. >> to her and to us, this residence is more than just a brick-and-mortar structure. it is a symbol of her journey. >> reporter: now, the new owners of this property, they've been keeping a very low profile. i did manage to track them down, got a text message out of them which reads -- we are optimistic we will be able to work with the city to reach an agreement that recognizes marilyn monroe's legacy, but also respects our neighbors and reflects or hopes and concerns. so, we'll see what happens. jake? >> nick, tell us what kind of neighborhood that is, quickly, if you could. >> reporter: very nice neighborhood. lovely country club that way, a lot of rich and famous live an here and the economics of it, it sold for over $8 million. only about $1-point something is the house. the rest of is a land. that's why in this area, people love to knock stuff down. >> thank you, nick. country is the day one of the latest government shutdown. i'll speak live with republican congressman matt gaetz of

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welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. the first guilty plea in the georgia election case for efforts to steal electoral votes. this guilty plea from a bail bondsman scott hall, one of 18 co-defendants carjack chad alongside donald trump. plus a fight over the home of glamorous actress marilyn monroe. should this home be protected as an historic site or should it be knock ed down to make room for new red hot real estate. and leading this hour, the odds of a government shutdown are now higher than willie nelson taking a tour of a.m. dam. one day until the government runs out of funding and there's no clear path to a solutions. a last-ditch measure failed in the house. 21 republicans crossed over to vote with democrats, eeb house republican leaders say they are in the dark about where to go from here. it's up to the speak er. it's not including active duty troops or any of their families. on average, federal workers earn between $55,000 and $65,000 a year. average pay for an army staff sergeant with 8 years experience, $48,500 a year. most of these folks cannot afford to miss a payday. perhaps this could be lost on the average member of congress, who makes $174,000 per year, and who will, by the way, continue to be paid during the shutdown. so this will not impact their wallets and their purses, even if they are not doing their jobs. and many of the others are expected to keep doing theirs. the longer this shutdown lasts, the more we're all going to feel the impacts. tsa agents, air traffic controllers might stop showing up to work. so perhaps you shouldn't get too attached to any flight plans you have. fda food safety inspections might be disrupted to enjoy those hot dogs while you can. manu raju is on capitol hill, where time to avoid a shutdown is running out. kevin mccarthy meeting with house republicans behind closed doors right behind you. what is he telling them? is there any sort of plan? this is, after all, his job. and in no small part, his fault. >>. >> reporter: he is telling his colleague, i'm told from people in the room, there are no good options left. he has not said what his preferred plan is. that's the big question. i'm told he laid out several ways it can go. they can move forward on a plan to keep the government open, the same plan that failed just this afternoon when 21 house republicans joined with democrats to sink from measure from concerns that the spend lg cutting were not enough. he said they can simply extend current funding with no provisions attached dare democrats to vote against it. that's something that a lot of republicans won't accept over here. he also accept ed that they can sepp the senate plan, which he said he opposes because of the inclusion in ukraine aid and noninclusion in border security money. this comes as the tension was palpable among some of the republicans in the aftermath of that failed vote. finger pointing among some of the more moderate members against hard liners who brought that down. >> they killed the most conservative position we could take. and then called themselves the real conservatives, which is like make that make sense. >> there's one person to blame for any potential government shutdown and that's matt gaetz. >> will not pass a resolution on terms that continue america's decline. >> so then the question is, what is next? the senate is still moving along bipartisan lines to try to get a bill through, but that may not be out of that chamber until potentially monday leaving it a couple days after the government shutdown deadline and the house speaker not embracing that plan. a lot of uncertainty and expectation that the government will shut down over divisions among republicans, not just in the house gop, but senate gop, as the shutdown, if it happens, it could extend for some time. the only question is how long? >> and neither kevin mccarthy nor matt gaetz, who are at odds, neither is proposing anything that could get through the senate and be signed by president biden. right? >> there's no question about it. the bill that would have went, if it were approved in the house, it would have been r rejected by the senate. so therein lies the problem for speaker mccarthy. if you were to move to cut a deal, that threat to push him out of the speakership continues to linger over him. something that he fully recognizes. all could play out. >> all of this was predictable. back in january, minnanu raju, thank you. with us now is james clyburn. good to see you. five days ago, and maybe you were just being kind, you said a government shutdown was not a fore gone conclusion. and you did not think we would get to the point of a shutdown. where are you today? >> thank you very much for having me. five days ago, it was not a fore gone conclusion. even at the moment, it does not have to be. the fact of the matter is, i think the senate is putting together a very good plan that if the speaker were to sit down with the democratic leader hakeem jeffries, and i'm sure he's got 150, 160 people in his conference, i think from the vote today, there was 98 or 9d 9 votes that wanted to keep this government open. and let's do a bipartisan piece of legislation. we can do that. all he has to do is put the country above his politics. his politics dictate that he's got to get jerked around by 15 to 20 people, and the country dictates that we need to keep people working, keep people safe, keep this country moving forward. >> but the problem is you know is that mccarthy agreed, as part of the condition of him becoming speaker, to one vote for a motion to vacate on the floor of the house, mean ing matt gaetz, and he's threatened this many times, can go to the floor and offer a motion to vacate and he needs 218 votes to keep his job as speaker. he might not have them. would democrat dots that? would you do that? >> there are circumstances in which i i could vote for him to maintain his speakership. a lot depends upon whether or not he's willing to put what the senate is doing on the floor. they have marked up to the agreement. we had an agreement back in the spring. he knows the agreement. he know it is. and the senate has been adhering to that agreement. the house is refusing. so put the senate bill on the floor. take care of ukraine. do what is necessary to protect people with these disasters that we need to face up to these wildfires, et cetera. and i do believe the senate is amenable to doing something about border security. but what we must do is keep people safe, keep travel going. we cannot close down our airports, and we cannot subject travelers to unsafe conditions. and we should keep federal employees happy. keep them in a positive way. so they can do their jobs and the country can continue to move forward. that's not a hard thing for him to do. but he needs to sut down with hakeem jeffreys and hmer out those agreements. >> politico is reporting that matt gaetz is reaching out to house democrats to solicit their help to oust mccarthy from the speakership. i guess he's reaching out to people in the progressive caucus. i assume you have not heard from him. but what would you say to your fellow democrats who are working with gaetz, to get rid of mccar thu. >> i'd like to know what it is he thinks we'll get ting out of getting rid of mccar thi. what do we get for that? i would much rather us look at what the country needs, let's lock at whether or not we can do a bipartisan continuing resolution. if not a bipartisan funded bill for the next congress. and let that be our north star. not whether or not we protect his politics. whether or not we protect the people of the country. so if you're going to do something in a bipartisan way, let it be doing what the people need rather than what the politics of matt gaetz dictate. he's being political. and no democrat, conservative or moderate or liberal or progressive, we're not going to play that game. i don't think you'll get anybody on our side to play with him. >> before we go, sir, as a trailblazer yourself, i'm wondering if you have thoughts on the passing of another trailblazer, senator dianne feinstein of california. >> yes, i do. i didn't know her personally. i have interacted with her on more than one occasion. i always found her to be a great person to work with. a perp of honor. i remember how she got into politic ticks. those days in california and the kind of things she worked on were things that were near and dear to me. that kind of stuff. she was just a great person for california and for the nation as well. >> democratic congressman james clyburn, thank you so much. coming up next, new information about the first guilty plea on the georgia election subversion case. we could see one of the co-defendants testify. plus a culture of abuse and corruption that may date back 150 years. the entire baton rouge police department in louisiana under fire after lawsuits reveal a strip search. but the allegations go much, much wider. some breaking news tops our law and justice lead. the first trump codefendant to plead guilty in the georgia election case has agreed to testify in any future proceedings and trials as part of this plea deal. his name is scott hall, and he pleaded to guilty to five count. he will avoid jail time. donald trump and 17 others are facing charges in this case related to efforts to try to overturn the results of the 2020 election in the state and steal georgia's electoral votes. joining us is katelyn polantz and jessica snider. walk us through the details of the plea deal. >> the first guilty plea in this georgia case -- >> and there will be more. >> this is the fist of many. he pleaded guilty to five misdemeanors all related to his interference with the voting systems in coffee county. that means he has to pay a fine. there will be five years of probation. he has to write a letter of apology, but crucially part of this plea deal is he agreed to testify truthfully in any proceedings related to this case, including trials. so that will inevitably make some of the other defendants think object what they need to do whether they need to plead guilty, agree to a plea deal with prosecutors, this is a turning point for sure pretty early on. >> and fulton county prosecutors suggestaled they could offer plea deals to sidney powell, who is -- donald trump said she was cr crazy. and kenneth chesebro of wisconsin, the alleged master mind behind the fake electors scheme. what is the likelihood they might take those plea deals? >> so far, their attorneys are signaling they won't. they are digging in their heels. they are mounting this defense. chesebro's attorney said these charges need to be dropped. that's the only way that we're not going to trial here indicating they will not take a plea deal. but the developments today in georgia with scott hall, it really does begin to put the pressure on and the more defendants that agree to the plea deals, the more pressure. we're a few week was from chesebro and powell and the start of the trial. there's not much time left. >> and former justice department official jeffrey clark, he was the one trump was thinking about appointing temporary acting attorney general and was going to tell states to overturn the results. he wanted to move his case. he was denied that. slar to what happened to mark med dose. >> he's part of a line of people that are trying to do that. they wanted to get the case in a place that might be a little more friendly, which can he thought was federal court. it's not going to. happen for him. mark meadows has an appeal on the table where the federal system is going to look at whether he can move his case, but what we're seeing happening here with mark meadows, before the trial judge asking for that and not getting that relief, with jeff clark and there's fake elector this is made a bid that's a long shot, with all of these people, we're seeing the pieces of the trial in fulton county, georgia, come into place. there's going to be a trial set with jury selection to begin at the end of october. that's the chesebro and powell trial. there are other defendants that have to make decisions, just like scott hall did today, because the cases aren't getting split up in a lot of different ways. they are not getting moved into different court systems. so the reason that clark wasn't able to move his case today when the judge looked at it, it was that he didn't have any evidence to be able to make the claim that what he was doing was part of his job at the justice department to try to look into an election in georgia. he didn't present ims evidence to that. even when his attorney tried to argue it's plausible that donald trump told him to do these things as the president overseeing a man in the justice department in the administration, there was no evidence to that effect. and that will likely come up at trial. >> the judge really shot that down. he said this was no part of your job. you're assistant attorney general and you should not have been doing this. >> it turns out regardless of what they think about the election that evidence actually matters. >> it does. imagine that. thank you so much. then there's donald trump himself, what is he telling supporters as his legal cases continue to stack up. plus only in los angeles would someone want to demolish the house that belonged to marilyn monroe because theyment the real estate. the fight to keep it standing, ahead. the power goes out and we still have wifi to do our homework. and that's a good thing? great in my book! who are you? no power? no problem. introducing storm-ready wifi. now you can stay reliably connected through power outages with unlimited cellular data and up to 4 hours of battery back-up to keep you online. only from xfinity. home of the xfinity 10g network. the 2024 lead, we have the muszic going. moments ago, trpresident trump took the stage in front of republicans to firm up sport for his 2024 bid. this is two days after he s skipped out of sharing the stage with seven of his rivals at the second republican debate. trump isn't the only presidential candidate there. tim scott, ron desantis and vivek ramaswamy will also a attend. er we are at the convention in anaheim, california, where president trump is still giving the keynote address. it sounds like the speech is being received well, yes? >> reporter: he is still speaking. he has been going about 30 minutes or so. no doubt about it, you heard it from the applause, he is popular in this room. but let's zoom out and give you a bit of perspective on what's happening here in the state. the republican party statewide here in california is desperately seeking relevance in the next election. so the blast time republicans were able to elect someone statewide here in california, it was in 2006. if you look the at the voting data in this state from the secretary of state, the latest i could find just under half of all registered voters are democrats. 24% are republican, 23% are independent. so this room can cheer. it can applaud donald trump because he is a popular figure, no doubt. but for the party leaders who are looking for relevance to win statewide, there is some concern that they have to have independent, they have to have democrats if they want to win statewide. >> the state party is debating a a rule change on the distribution of delegates during the primary. what does that change about how it might affect the winner? >> so this is something that the state party has decided. so what the rule change is that anyone who is 50 plus 1, the previous was a breakdown by percentage of win. but now it's going to be winner take all, if you are 50 plus 1. and that is 169 delegates. so certainly, moving up the calendar to super tuesday, having that high number of delegates available, it makes california very relevant,s especially this election for the republicans. >> thank you so much. let's bring in my panel. you're the californian here. david offered this it assessment the on wednesday night's debate in california. and the other seven republican candidates vying to be an alternative to trump. he siaid, republican primary voters don't care about policy. what they want is a proven record of violence, sexual assault and financial fraud. obviously, that is harsh and snarky, but it is hard to escape the fact that it looks very strongly as though donald trump will be the nominee. nobody has voted yet, but polls suggest strongly as of now, it looks like donald trump is still heavily favored. >> you cannot emphasize enough how that rule change is going to help him with that. if he reaches that 50% threshold, that's a lot of d delegates he's winning. there's a lot of enthusiasm for him right now. i spent a whole year and a half campaigning up and down the state of california. i got to see it firsthand. people really believe that he is the person who ought to carry the mantle forward. even people who have doubts about the personal issues, they see him as a strong standard barer. so i'm not surprised to see 1700 in that ballroom today. i want to say that's three or four times more than ron desantis has attracted later today. a lot measure when tim scott is there. so there's a lot of enthusiasm, a lot of interest, notwithstanding what was pointed out in the tweet. >> you worked for trump in 2016. polls indicate that nikki haley, the former ambassador and governor would beat joe biden decisively. and that every other candidate, it's basically a margin of error race. and yet the party seems very committed, as of now, anything could change, to it's a 1 in 10 chance trump does not get the nomination. i remember what you said. >> she's smart. she's the pollster. >> but why? when there's this alternative that is younger, a fresher face, and that according to data has a better chance of winning? >> people love donald trump. social media, you go to rallies, you talk to people, you pull in the gas station, you get in an uber, the guy occupies everybody's conscientious. i'm not sure why. >> he's a minority of americans. >> in the party. i'm not talking about america at large. >> he does up a a lot of time. >> we're going to get waxed in california. but winning these votes is important. and these are big numbers. we're getting a thousand people and we thought it was giant. used to get small people in diners and trump has changed the political dialic because he's fighting for people. he's fighting for average americans. >> he's been a celebrity for decades. >> dr. oz. is wildly popular celebrity and got crushed in the general election to a guy who wears shorts and a hoody to work. >> many pennsylvanians wear shorts and hoodies. but when you look at california in that room, when you look at that room, it's not just the numbers of potential voters. they are looking for money too, which is why the other candidates are there too. that's going to be their ongoing challenge. how can they sustain the money that it takes to run for office when your margins are so wide. is it really going to keep you going? how do you make up for that? knowing that there's a limited pool of voters that you have to appeal to. >> i read this story and immediately wanted to know what you thought. there's a conservative antitrump group called win it back. it's been $6 million in iowa to try to damage trump's standing with republican voters. ads such as this one. >> i would have to say that donald trump did a great job. i always supported him. i supported him in the 16 and in the '20 election, but i didn't like his response to covid. i thought he got led by the bureaucrats. >> that's one approach. and that's kind of like an approach that desantis has take. they have tried a whole bunch of different approaches to go after him, trying to appeal to reallies and conservatives. the "new york times" reports that this memo from this group says after more than 40 different antitrump tv ads, all attempts to undermine his conservative credentials on specific issues were ineffective. in fact, in at least one of them, his popularity went up. so $6 million is a lot of money. it's not working. >> attempts to persuade republican voters that donald trump is not conservative, and therefore, you shouldn't vote for him have been dead on arrival. the wasn't message that had a chance to work was right after the midterms saying just like in that ad, start up with a guy that says i like donald trump. i'm not hostile to trump voters. i am a trump voter. i'm worried he's not the guy to win in 2024. there was a window when that could have worked. but now there are enough polls showing them neck and neck. >> i think the message that could have worked is the loser you're a loser. you lost in '18. we got killed in the midterms. you lost in '22. you're going to lose in '24. you haven't won. that would have been sticky. >> here's where biden comes in. he jumps in in arizona at the mccain institute talking about his relationship with a republican, how they used to work democracy of old together. he's selling a message of he won, and america's democracy is under threat. every time somebody comes under indictment or decides to cut a plea deal,s that's something that appeals not only to democrats, but also to the vast majority of americans. 50% do not identify with a political party. >> you want to bring in the fact that robert f. kennedy jr., who is run ning against president biden in the primary, he is now considering running as an independent. what do you think? do you think that could have an effect? and would he hurt biden or trump? >> we're more likely to have a three or four-way race than a non-trump candidate as a republican nominee. if you look at whether it's robert kennedy, you have this no labels candidate potentially that could be another possibility, and that's a more likely scenario. we can debate who they take share from, but if you have robert f. kennedy and a candidate that was center right, then it becomes an interesting dialic. >> i looked at data. you would assume that rfk because he's doing poorly in polls, would maybe pull more republican voters. but the data i have seen suggests he pulls equally from both sides. his influence would be a little bit unclear. it doesn't benefit one side or another. there's a lot going on today. you have likely seen the alerts about tupac murderer arrest. i will speak with a detective, next. we're back. tell us how you really feel is the phrase that comes to mind. the joint chiefs of staff mark milley colt kalling out his former boss donald trump today. not particularly subtle. take a listen. >> we are unique among the world's armies. we are eunique among the world' militaries. we don't take an oath to a c country, we don't take an oath to a tribe, we don't take an oath to a religion. we don't take an oath to a king or queen or a tyrant or dictator, and we don't take an oath to a want to be dictator. >> we don't take an oath to a want to be tick tauter. this pointed remark after trump suggested that milley should be executed for treason. a remark trump made just a few days ago to the deafening silence of republicans in the house and senate. nearly 30 years ago after tupac was murdered in a drive-by shooting on the las vegas strip, police have finally arrested someone in connection to the crime. dew davis, is now in las vegas police custody after police searched his house as part of their ongoing investigation, where they found a memoir a authored by davis with a suspicious level of detail about the 25-year-old hip hop icon's untimely death. let's get right to greg kaiding a retired police detective, who spent years investigating the murder and wrote a book about it. thank you for joining us. so davis has been on law enforcement's radar for years. he was outspoken about having been at the scene of the crime. why do you think it was so hard to finally pin him down? >> we knew about davis all the way back from his initial confession to law enforcement. we sat him down back in 2009, and he confessed to his role in the murder along with other cocons coconspirators. he had a proffer agreement, so we couldn't utilize that information that he was providing against him. but then he began to go out publicly boast about husband involvement in the murder, and that led to law enforcement in las vegas taking another look at his claims, and ultimately, he's talked himself right into skbral jail. so we have known about his confession since 2009. we knew about his involvement. now it's come to fruition because of all the public statements he's made. >> are those statements enough? does there need to be more evidence beyond those statements? could they not be just explained away in a trial as false brag doesh doeshs? >> we substantiated during our original interview with him. we substantiated nearly every single thing he said during that interview. we knew it was a bonn fied confession. so he's essentially hung himself with this one. it's great to finally see this case come to a point where somebody is being held accountable for the murder. >> this afternoon police said the investigation was, quote, far from over. what is left to look into? what remain? >> we have to take him to trial, if he chooses to go to trial. so it's going to be really interesting how they work this out legally. when you have the primary witness against the defendant, is the defendant himself. this is going to be very unique in the legal realm. how do you prosecute this? so i'm really looking forward to it. it's going to be intriguing. but essentially, we know that davis is the last man standing for those that were responsible for tupac's murder. and it's great to see the case finally get closed. it's no longer a mystery from the public's perception. we have known it for years, but it's always been a matter of it's not what you know, it's what you can prove. >> thank you so much. appreciate you joining us. >> my pleasure. thank you. coming up next, an unbelievable story developing in louisiana. the entire baton rouge police department under fire over an alleged horror in a brave cave. stay with us. the power goes out and we still have wifi to do our homework. and that's a good thing? great in my book! who are you? no power? no problem. introducing storm-ready wifi. now you can stay reliably connected through power outages with unlimited cellular data and up to 4 hours of battery back-up to keep you online. only from xfinity. home of the xfinity 10g network. here s and all of our stuff where we want to go. but, our cars can't take us e with unpaid tolls. vehicles with overdue, unpaid tolls may not be able to renew their registration until outstanding balances are paid. payment assistance is available. visit bayareafastrak.org/ase so go pay your unpaid tolls y and keep your wheels on the ! the scrutiny of louisiana's baton rouge police just got more intention. last week we told you about the use of a warehouse -- never a good development. the so-called brave cave, that disbanded street crime unit allegedly tortured suspects. one was arrested last week, and now his fare deputy chief troy sr. have also been arrested. cnn's ryan young is tracking this all for us. what is they are officers accused of doing? >> thee accused of violating policy, jake. apparently somebody was arrested, they were brought to a police building, and inside this police building, they decided to do a search of him. when the search happened, officers used a taser to try to get the man to comply. at some point, something dropped from the man's body. what they didn't realize at the time is the taser actually activated body cameras that the officers were wearing. at some point, according to the chief of police, someone watched and saw they maybe violated policy. that body camera apparently was destroyed. in trying to destroy it, it wasn't connected to a server, so that's why four officers were arrested this morning in connection with this. when you think about this, you add the brave cave to this, people are astounded about what may have been going on in baton rouge. there's been talk about nine separate administrative investigations, the fbi is looking into this, and there's a federal lawsuit. there was a grandmother who says she was -- had a cavity search and strip-searched after she had prescription drugs after being pulled over. take a listen. >> to put it in terms you can relate to, this is not a time for just an annual checkup. this is time for a full body mri to diagnosis and reveal any dysfunctions or wrongdoings. >> reporter: jake, i talked to community members disparately hoping the federal government steps in to do a review of this police department. they believe there's more to get to the bottom of. ryan young, thank you so much. an i.r.s. contractor is accused of stealing the tax returns of donald trump. details are coming in. we're going to squeeze in a quick break. we'll be back, next. now the breaking news i told you about. an i.r.s. contractor has been charged, accused of stealing donald trump's tax returns and giving them to members of the press. what do we know about these allegations and charges, evan? >> his name is charles littlejohn. he worked for the i.r.s. from 2018 to 2020. according to prosecutors, he's being charged with disseminating the tax information of donald trump. additionally, stealing the tax information of thousands of americans, including the richest americans, and providing that to a news organization. in both cases, the stealing of donald trump's information as well as the wealthy individuals in this country, both were passed to two different news organizations which published articles about it. now, right now the justice department says this is a charge that can carry up to five years in prison, if convicted. jake? >> evan, thank you very much. i know you'll have more on that story in "the situation room" coming up. the pop culture lead now, in los angeles, a clash by night and day over a house in which actress marilyn monroe lived. she died as well in that house. cnn's nick watt explains. >> marilyn monroe made the brevinwood bungalow her home. >> reporter: and she supported the hair and makeup for her fight. >> it was the only home she ever home and the home she tragically died 61 years ago last months. >> marilyn monroe was found dead in bed under circumstances that were in tragic contrast to her glamorous career. >> reporter: an overdose, the coroner said it was probably suicide. more than a year after the release of her final film, "the misfits." >> what makes you so sad? >> i'm usually told how happy i am. >> reporter: the house sold in august for over $8 million. the new owners, who apparently also owned the house next door, applied for a permit, a demolition permit. here in l.a., people love to knock stuff down. >> it is part of the story in l.a. it's also reinventing itself. if you could see sometimes, touch the place, visit the place, the history, the story, the people connected to it are just less real. >> reporter: for now the permit is paused, while city officials debate giving this howls historic status. >> why shouldn't they be allow to do with what they want? >> you could add on, still living, breathing, changing, but still be there to help tell the story. >> monroe fans, conservationists and the council woman are confident they can save this suburban slice of hollywood history. >> to her and to us, this residence is more than just a brick-and-mortar structure. it is a symbol of her journey. >> reporter: now, the new owners of this property, they've been keeping a very low profile. i did manage to track them down, got a text message out of them which reads -- we are optimistic we will be able to work with the city to reach an agreement that recognizes marilyn monroe's legacy, but also respects our neighbors and reflects or hopes and concerns. so, we'll see what happens. jake? >> nick, tell us what kind of neighborhood that is, quickly, if you could. >> reporter: very nice neighborhood. lovely country club that way, a lot of rich and famous live an here and the economics of it, it sold for over $8 million. only about $1-point something is the house. the rest of is a land. that's why in this area, people love to knock stuff down. >> thank you, nick. country is the day one of the latest government shutdown. i'll speak live with republican congressman matt gaetz of

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