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U. S. Society. It is unclear where, when or how king would be expelled. Joining us now from seoul, paula hancocks. And also former analyst white house official Sue Mi Terry In W york. What is the latest, what do we actually know here . Reporter well, phil, everything we know so far has come from north korea itself, from state run media. We havent heard at all from travis king since he crossed the Military Demarcation Line back in midjuly while on a private tour of the dmz, a civilian tour. So we do have to wait and see whether or not the confession they speak of is in fact accurate. But as you say, they say that he confessed to illegally entering north korea. They say that they carried out an investigation over the past couple of months. And that investigation is now over. And they have decided to expel him. And they said really what they said last month when they had the first acknowledgement that travis king had even gone into their country saying that he was wanting to get away from an unequal u. S. Society. Back in august, they had said that he was looking at the opportunity to either stay in north korea or potentially look for a third country. At the time that was seen as a positive note, the fact that they were even entertaining the thought there may be a third country suggesting that they may not have wanted to keep hold of him for too long. Now, very few assumed that he would not have been heavily debriefed. He is after all a u. S. Soldier. Maybe not privy to an awful lot of secrets but certainly any information north korea may find useful, they would have debriefed him. So this all happened back in july, midjuly. He had spent 50 days in a facility in south korea, he had faced assault charges. So he had been in a south korean facility. He was supposed to be thflown bk to the United States but at the airport he managed to get out of the airport, go on the tour and then run across the border. Sumi, how does it play out . Paula mentioned last hour that perhaps china, do we know where he would go and also is an expulsion different from a release . So this is very concerning to me because first he is expelled so he wont be staying in north korea. The fact that north korea says he could go to third country, didnt say he is returning home, and if it is china, that is one thing. But what about russia . Kim jungun just met with putin in vladivostok. And there is all kinds of i illicit deals going on with north korea and russia with ammunition and Artillery Shells that putin needs for his war he wases in ukraine. And russia supply north korea with Sensitive Technology that north korea needs to advance its Missile Nuclear program. So im wondering if this is also part of a discussion between kim jungun and putin. So unless travis king comes home to the United States, this is not necessarily a better development. I need to find out where he is going first so this is a little bit concerning to me. And to that point, it is full circle here. When he first crossed, we were on talking about this and you had a sober analysis that said exactly what happened. And you mentioned the new geopolitical issue here depending on where he would be expelled to. But why would the north koreans want to expel hilm, why wouldn they hold him for their own leverage . Well, he was debriefed so im sure they found out whatever they wanted to find out. And then it is a matter of it does cost them to keep somebody for lifetime, right . And so there is a financial cost, a logistically you need somebody always staying with him, there is the language barrier. So after finding out maybe that travis was not they got everything that they needed out of him, so maybe now this is part of the Better Bargain with putin than the Biden Administration because north korea and u. S. Were at complete impasse. They dont want some sort of they have made it clear that they dont want to sit down with washington anytime soon to talk about denuclearization or anything else. So maybe there is a Better Bargain to be had with putin. There is a new kind of geopolitical environment. So im very concerned until we find out exactly where he is going, it might not be a better place. And how much weight should we put to the statement north korea attributes to him . Zero. Zero. He is reading exactly what north koreans have written down for him. Thank you very much for your expertise, both of you. And happening today former President Trump heading to michigan where instead of debating his republican rivals, he will be looking to up stage them with his own primetime speech. He will be speaking at a nonunion plant outside of the detroit with an audience of around 500 former or Current Union members. In a new ruling, a new york judge said trump and his adult sons are liable for fraud and they bear responsibility for inflating the value of trumps assets for years. The judge setting multiple instances in which trumps companies claim their properties were worth far more than assessed values, sometime to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars, adding the defendants claims none of that mattered came from a, quote, fantasy world. As a result the judge canceled the trump org business certificates. And that could end control of some of his Key Properties like trump tower. Donald trumps ruling says the family will appeal. But this is a big win for the new York Attorney general Civil Case Against Trump which alleges that trump inflated net worth by as much as 2. 2 billion in a single year. With us now is one of the first to see trumps tax returns and author of the big chief, how donald trump Fleeced America and enriched himself and his family. The book title is very apropos to what were looking at. Can you explain why this actually matters, that if he did these things, why does that give him an uneven Playing Field with basically Everyone Else . By claiming his assets were two, four, ten more times than their actual value, trump received benefits in the form of Bank Loan Terms and other matters. And the judge in a very carefully written 35 page opinion walks through this, shows that trump asserted that nobody pays any attention to my financial statements, Everybody Knows that they are nonsense. And said sorry, the world doesnt work that way in the real world. And trump then argued, well, i dont have to make any restitution and the judge said this is not about restitution. What ill be teaching my law students in the spring is this an analog, analogy, you take 100 from the till, you go to the racetrack, you win 1,000, you put the 100 back. Not only did you commit a crime, but you have to disgorge that 900 gain from your winning bet. And that is what is happening here. And trjudge giving the Trump Companies a Death Penalty. Donald trump is no longer a businessman in new york. And just to zero in on some of the specific examples, one in particular, the trump filing 30,000 square feet for the Trump Tower Penthouse Value and the actual size is 10,996 square feet. And that is not small money. Just one example. I guess when you listen to the trumps lawyers or their defense here, this is how things operate. I didnt believe this is any different than how anybody else at my level was operating. How egregious is Something Like that in terms of the word that he was rld would he was operating in . Trump is not the only person to inflate his assets. The judge points out were not talking about minor discrepancies, an extra 10 or something. Were talking about massive discrepancies. And trump has been doing this the whole 35 years that ive been covering him. He just makes it up and that is why the judge not only held that all of trumps Business Licenses are canceled, but he fined five of the trump lawyers, 7500 each, to making up false arguments, for stating the law said things that it said the opposite and other misconduct on donalds behalf. And this is a ruling against donald trump and his sons not ivanka. Can you explain why . Ivanka got herself removed from the case. So it is donald, his two older sons, Allen Weisselberg and two other employees of the trump organization. And in new york, you cannot operate a business except as a Sole Proprietor like my Book Writing Business unless you have a license from the state. And the judge has canceled all of those licenses all of which fall under the umbrella of the trump organization. This is a corporate Death Penalty. Youve written so much not just about the in the weeds Financial Dynamics but also the man himself. What do you think this means, the Death Penalty that you are laying out here, what would it mean to somebody like trump . Well, donald potentially could end up with nothing but his president ial and Television Show pensions. Eventually after he appeals, which he will, and of course for his whole life he will insist he did nothing wrong because donald has said in his whole life hes never done a single thing that requires seeking forgiveness. Those assets will be seized, they will be sold and clearly they will not bring the highest prices. Creditors, fines due to the state and taxes will be paid first and if there is anything left, donald will get that money. But since he inflated assets, it is not likely to be much if anything. David cay johnson, thank you for your expertise. Cnn has teams on the ground in mexico and new york to tell you the stories of the people making the dangerous journey to the border. And also new overnight, disturbing footage out of philadelphia shows hundreds Looting Stores across the city. Well bring you those details and how police are responding, ahead. It is a story only cnn could tell. We have two teams covering two of the flash points of the border crisis. In mexico capturing the dire conditions as they try to reach the border. And here in new york city, what the backlog of migrants looks like once they reach the city. David culver is in tapachula, mexico and Shimon Prokupecz is at the Roosevelt Hotel in new york city. David, what are you seeing on the ground . Reporter phil, you get a sense of this being a constant flow, just an influx of migrants that is 24 7. It is always after 5 00 in the morning here and this is just one of the gathering points here and you notice hint mebehind me you have dozens it not thousands because it stretches out block, they are here waiting to be processed for either Transit Documents or Asylum Claims but not to say here, but rather to continue on to the u. S. As You Touchdown in southern mexico, be ready to share the road with migrants. We spot group after group marching north. Many of those who just illegally crossed into mexico here, This Outdoor Park turned migration processing center. In it folks camping out for days weeks, waiting to Climbing Asylum in mexico or to get Transit Documents to pass through legally. Or to sign up for some arent quite sure what they are signing up for, but they do it anyway. Rafael from outside havana, at 26, he sold his house, left behind his 6yearold son and traveling north with his dad. He wants to go legally into the u. S. , so he wants to go through it process here, get his documentation and get to the northern border and eventually cross. Reporter he wants to pave the way for the rest of his family to follow. Oopd day and days earlier they crossed the Darien Gap Connecting Colombia and panama. They are describing it as they said several people had already passed away, a lot of kids. They saw the remains. And he says children were abandoned. Those images haunt suzannsuzann. Describing the journey she made with her four young kids. But admits her tearfilled pain little ones lighten the load. A little shampoo left. His 12yearold sister helping clean it out. And then they turn the questions on me. [ speaking in a nonenglish language ] she says im older than her dad. Curiosity brings their siblings and cousins. And they tell me why they left venezuela. [ speaking in a nonenglish language ] venezuela economy is bad. And as they share, disturbing memories surface. [ speaking in a nonenglish language ] talking about, these are children mind you, having gone you through the darien gap and bodies they is describing. Sophias pain as she remembers saying goodbye to loved ones. The friendships that shes lost. Hearing it from kids, poppy an phil, it is krishing. And they have been through so much already and they have a lot more to go. Another thousand plus miles to get to what is the destination for the vast majority and that is of course the u. S. Told in a way only you can, david culver, that was remarkable. Thank you for being on the story. Shimon prokupecz, youve been at the center of all of this covering what happens as the migrants move north. You are joining us from new york. And i understand a bus of migrants just pulled up behind you . Reporter yeah, poppy, thats right. Just the last few minutes, a bus pulled up. But in the last 30 minutes or so since weve been here, sweweve seen three buses pull up. Most getting off the buses were families with multiple kids, little, the kids coming here from texas. The weeks that they traveled through the border to get to texas, they then spent two days on buses getting here. And we saw over 100 of them this morning going inside here behind me in what is the citys Intake Center. And we spent a couple days here in the last few weeks sort of documenting what some of the families have been going through and why they came here. We can offer you food and water. A lot meal can go a long way. Reporter dr. Ted long is proud of the operation the city has established here. Everything that weve developed in new york city is to meet the needs that were not met for people coming to us from texas so far. So here whether it is screening for communicable disease, if you are a pregnant woman giving you Prenatal Care or screening you for the very important Mental Health condition, we do it all here because it is not done before here. Reporter it really catches your eye to see so many kids running through the halls of the Roosevelt Hotel. Almost like a playground. So many kids. The city says 20,000 Migrant Children have come through new york so far. Why did you come to america . This woman is 23 and escaping violence in ecuador. She says that she came here for her daughter, mia, who was born with a physical disability. How are you feeling . She shenaays shes happy shes and shes scared to go back to ecuador. Im afraid that my daughter will die there if she doesnt get medical attention. I need a place to stay. I think that they will help me. Good luck, okay . Good news, they are being moved out of the Intake Center to a shelter. As this group leaves, another is already shuffling in behind them. 116,000 have come to new york city since the spring of 2022 City Officials say. And it is a reminder that the flow of migrants doesnt stop. The burden on new york city is too much. Quite honestly. Were past the breaking point. Among those just arriving, luis flores, we met him outside. And his wife. They now have seats inside. It is a dream come true, he says. Took 2 1 2 months to come to this country through the border. And now hes just hoping to give his family a better life. They have been sitting here now for several days waiting for the next steps and the next process. And this is your wife. Yes . Years you have been married. How are you doing . [ speaking in a nonenglish language ] reporter she says it was their dream to come to the United States. And she doesnt want to lose her husband. Now that they have finally made it. As we leave, luis speaks directly into our camera. I just want to work, he says. These are the hands of a worker. So that is the big thing here. Families wanting work. Fathers, mothers who have all their kids here. I mean, there are some 20,000 kids that have been through the system. And you can look behind me, you are seeing all these kids. They are going to school. I mean, this is their temporary home here at the Roosevelt Hotel, some have been here for several weeks. What the city has done, most of the kids here, they have tried to enroll them in schools. They want to give them some semblance of a normal life. And the hope is for many of them that eventually for many of the parents here, that they can get jobs. But that is a big problem here right now. To that point, it is temporary, and you show the striking moment there about the individual who wants to work. What does happen next long term for these people . Reporter so what happens basically is they need to file for asylum. Many dont even realize that that is something that they need to do. And that will take time. Normally it should take somewhere around 180 days or so. But what the city is seeing, that it is taking much longer. Without those asylum paperwork, without some of the other sort of bureaucracy that these families need to go through, they cant get jobs. They cant le

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