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CNNW CNN July 3, 2024

From north korea and why ukraine should be paying close attention. Sara sidner is off. Im kate bolduan with john berman, and this is cnn news central. This morning, the manhunt expanding for a escaped killer. The area is expanding. The police were previously searching a twomile area where Da Knee Low Kcavakavl Danilo Cavalcante has been on the run. What have we been learning . This is where the new manhunt area has been. Now, new information is that the manhunt area is expanding. The Police Believed emphatically that he was in a twomile radius two miles south of the prison, but this morning we have learned that it is expanding further south. We are now five miles south of the prison. What is particularly important is that they are searching this area near Longwood Gardens and it is a popular tourist destination, and the reason they are searching this area is because last night at 9 00 and 8 30, they captured dane will, O Cavalcante On The Trail Cameras on the trail cameras. He is not wearing a shirt on one camera, and still carrying a duffle bag and still wearing the prisonissued pant, and in one, he has a hood ed shirt of some kind, and he has been in a car of some sort or building, and just to why Police Believe that, this is what one person in the neighborhood said of Encountering Cavalcante a couple of days ago. I looked at my wife, and i said, hey, there might be somebody downstairs. Get on the phone. What i decided to do is to switch the light on and off three or four or five times and pause and then he flipped light switch from downstairs three or four times which was the moment of like, oh, my god, this guy is down there. I mean, just hard to imagine, that he was convicted of firstdegree murder and sentenced without the possibility of parole, and then seeing him in your home. One thing that the police have said is that he is winging it at this point. Like examplesf those, he is trying to get into the homes to try to get food and supplies, and there are not caches of supplies that he has left for himself. But again, this manhunt is intensifying and expanding on day six. Wild. All of the details coming in, and especially hearing from that man is terrifying. Thank you, danny. John . Joining me is Bounty Hunter zeke unger, and thank you for being with us. We have seen the new photos, new video images captured of this man on the loose. A backpack in one, and duffle bag in others, and the authorities beliefs that indicates that maybe he is breaking into a house or car to get things, and where do you see things headed . Well, the first thing that is positive is that they were able to ascertain and develop that it is him. Now that they have a new location as we know, the perimeter is expanding which is normal fugitive business. The Marshall Service is fluid and they move quickly. The one good thing about the Marshall Service they have a great rapport with the local police, and working in conjunction. You have Patrol Officers being diligent and sending the information back and forth. We have hypervigilance in the community. I believe that this is going to end relatively soon. Now, you see the boots on the ground. You will be seeing a tighter perimeter and start to see canines, and you know, breakbres and Home Invasions is how they gain clothing and sometimes transportation. There is Mental Illness here, and of course, he is a murder here, and i believe it is some form of Mental Illness, and so he is making bad decision, and he is still on foot and wearing the same clothing. You call it bad decision, and what is it that he is able to slip through the original perimeter. Slip through. Well, sometimes it is a timing issue, and maybe he slipped through the perimeter prior to them being able to set the perimeter up. Now they have got another perimeter set up with a direct sighting in a certain area, so now what they will do is to bring out the canines and start focusing in. The canines are very effective and they have helicopters they have local police and one thing that makes the local Marshall Service so effective over the years is the Communication Skills with local Law Enforcement and federal agencies, and they like to keep it close to the breast, but the United States Marshall Service has a history of working with the local Law Enforcement which makes them so effective, because the officers know their area. Zeke, they closed the local schools a few of them in the areas, and how concerned should people be around there for their safety . Well, i mean, listen, you have a murderer on the loose. Of course when it is coming to children and facilitfacilities, Everybody Needs to be diligent. I agree. It is going to take a small amount of time, and they have him in a great perimeter and Law Enforcement will be apprehending him soon. And zeke unger, dont go far, because we could be in the final hours of this, we hope. Thank you for your help. Interesting. Also new for us this morning, cnn has new information about the special counsels investigation of Donald Trumps efforts to overturn the 2020 investigation. He has been indicted in this case, but multiple sources are revealing that jack smith has also been following fundraising money and has been focusing new witness questioning on trumps former lawyer and codefendant in georgia Sidney Powell. Paula reid is joining us and has more on this. What is smith looking find here . We have been learning that smiths investigators are hard at work, and specifically focused on efforts to raise money off of these baseless claims of voter fraud and how that money was used to breach Voting Systems in states that biden won. Now, my colleague zach cohen and i have learned that since the special counsel handed down the january 6th indictment which only charges former President Trump, they have continued to speak with witnesses asking questions about Sidney Powell if she was aebl to give any evidence of the voter fraud that she has put forward and the witnesses have said to investigators that, no, they never saw evidence. Now they are also interested in her nonprofit called Defending The Republic. According to the invoice obtained by cnn Defending The Republic used some of the funds that it raised off of the claims of voter fraud to hire Forensic Experts who then breached Voting Systems in four states. That is unclear, kate, if foufpowell or anyone else is going to be charged, because we thought that the federal indictment was going to be narrow and go after a narrow group of people, but now it seems that is not the case. Great reporting, paula. John . And with us is james rossi, former attorney for the eastern district, and now the fact that jack smiths team is still investigating and putting witnesses before a grand jury, what impact could that have in the case against donald trump for which there is also a trial date set . All right. Here is my prediction, john. You are going to be seeing an indictment of Sidney Powell and several others in the next three months. They wont do a Superseding Indictment of donald trump, but my prediction is that they are focusing like a laser beam on Sidney Powells charity, nonprofit, and her activities, and you will see a multidefendant indictment that looks at the following. Money laundering, wire fraud, mail fraud, tax charges possibly, but it will be separate from donald trump, because the special counsel, if they are smart, and they are, they want to keep that Trump Indictment clean, narrow and focused. But Sidney Powell et al. , i predict that is facing harms way. That is what i am getting that separation that you mentioned. That is important, because if they were to add any direct link to donald trump, what might that do to his trial date . Well, it wont affect his trial date. If you keep the indictment involving Sidney Powell separate, shell have, allegedly, her own trial date and possibly others. It will not affect Donald Trumps trial date one bit, and that why i predict if there is an indictment, it is only going to be against Sidney Powell, et al. , and think wont touch trump, because they want to stay with him, mano a mano, and focus on him, and his activities january 6th before and after, and that is a brilliant strategy if they take that approach. You were talking about Sidney Powell, and what are the actions that could put her in jeopardy . Why is there focus on the money . You raise money based on a fraud. You lie to people to get money. That is a crime. Money, wire fraud, mail fraud, money laundering. And you take that money, you then further this schemes that are laid out in Donald Trumps indictment. So there is a connection between her alleged fundraising kerfuffle if you will, and the scheme and goals of Donald Trumps conspiracy. Because there are several goals of the conspiracy that was charged against him, and then you could also go down to atlanta, and that is seven schemes. So you raise money based on the lie. You get it. Then you spend it on things that are illegal. The last time i looked at the law books, that is a crime. Counselor, you brought up atlanta, and talk about georgia, Fulton County here, and far more many defendants there and some of whom will be charged together, and politico had a great story here and others have noted it, too, that some of the defendants are starting to if not turn on each other, at least reference each other in Court Filings in ways that are not necessarily advantageous to all. When you have that many defendants what are the risk to start seeing them turn . Well, think of lobsters in a barrel. They are all trying to climb out, and they are all pulling each other down. I just finished a sixweek trial february and march, oathkeeper, and he got probation with a great judge, but we had one key coop ray or the, and in every case of this magnitude hinges on one or two cooperators and the proud boys hinged on one main coop ray or the and so what is going to happen among the 19 is that you will face the prisoners dilemma. Do i take a bullet for the team, or do i think about me . Do i think about me, me alone and what my future holds . And so you are going to be seeing two or three people cooperating before that trial starts, and they are going to be very important witness. They could decide the case for or against donald trump, giuliani and the others. Prisoners dilemma, do i cooperate before another perhaps cooperates against me. 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The nsc is not saying anything regarding timing and the New York Times is saying that it could be in vladivostock as soon as this month, and we know that kim jongun has gone there in the past, and he has taken a train there, and it is close to north korea and russia. Officials have been warning in the course of recent weeks that these conversations between north korea and russia on the potential new Arms Agreement between the two countries have been actively advancing. We have been seeing the steps that could indicate that they are headed towards a Leader Level Discussion on the matter. It is back in july when the Russian Defense minister traveled to north korea and according to the nsc to have arms sold to russia. And there was also a Delegation Officials from russia that went to north korea after that, and since then, kim jongun and putin have exchanged letters. And john kirby said this is showing an act of desperation on the part of putin. This what he shared. Weakness why else would mr. Putin have to be reaching out to rogue regimes. He is going to iran, and going to north korea to try to get Artillery Shells and the basic materiels to shore up the industrial base. There is no other way to look at that than desperation and weakness, quite frankly. Now, john kirby also said that the u. S. Expects this deal that is potentially the come the fruition would include a significant amount of ammunition of north korea to russia to be used in russian Weapons Systems and the Raw Materials from north korea to russia that they could be using in the Defense Industrial complex. The concern also is what russia would be giving to north korea with u. S. Officials telling me that the expectation is that north korea is looking for advanced technology that could be used in areas where they have not quite advanced as far as they want to. So the concern is really on both sides here. A lot of possible reasons for concern. Kylie atwood, please keep us posted. Kate . And we will talk about this more with cnn retired analyst general wesley clark. General, thank you for coming in. What do you think of the new reporting . What can north korea provide to russia, and how much of a difference would it make . North korea can provide russia with ammunition, artillery, technology of all sorts of types, and low technology for weapons and plus the Raw Materials. So they would be at least in the near term a major factor in enabling russia to do more against the northeast offensive against ukraine. Now, there has been discussions for months that the talks are on going. And some belief that weapons or ammunition has already been provided and the latest reports that we are getting from the battlefield, a period of time where it seemed that the Russian Forces didnt have the artillery they wanted and now it seems that they are getting the Artillery Ammunition to reestabli

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