thank you so much for joining us tonight. happy labor day weekend to everyone, and also more importantly, happy college football kickoff weekend to all of those who celebrate, and of course roll tide. cnn prime time with abby phillip starts right now. >> i have absolutely nothing to add to that conversation, but good luck to you and all who celebrate this weekend. thank you. >> thanks, abby, have a good weekend. >> good evening, i'm abby phillipment tonight are some of donald trump's codefendants already turning on one another? the move raising ey eyebrows, steven a. smith will join me on age limits for lawmakers, national competency tests and who he thinks democrats should look as an an alternative for biden: he's a proud boy who triggered the breach on the u.s. capitol on january 6th, the judge calls him the tip of the sphere of that insurrection. now, today, dominic pezzola received a decade behind bars, but inside that courtroom before learning his fate, he bedding the judge for mercy, vowing that he was done with politics, and yet, moments later, after the sentence, he yelled, trump won on his way out of the courtroom. it's quite the moment, considering that if trump is elected, he's already suggested that he will pardon some of these guys. it's also worth noting, pezzola's wife called him a quote, effing idiot, who got drunk, watched fox news all day before the attack. >> smoke in the capitol, boys. >> i want to bring in former january 6th investigative counsel marcus childress. thank you so much for joining us. it's so interesting. we saw several of these sentences carried out this week, and several of these defendants bedding for mercy. they wanted to see their kids again. they bedding for leniency, and yet for pezzola to then, once the judge didn't give him that, turn around and say, trump won, it almost seems like, is this a game, a ploy to try to get a reprieve from these jail sentences? >> when we were conducting depositions and interviews of these proud boys, one of the things we noticed, they had unwavering support for the president. that's why they came to d.c. on january 6th. i think it's important to talk about the indictment, how president trump exploited the violence. the proud boys were the foot soldiers of the violence. they were the tip of the sphere as the judge said today, and as we described them on the committee. look, it's hard to distinguish whether they actually feel remorse, but from our interactions with people who attended the capitol on january 6th, including the proud boys, they have unwavering support. >> what do you make of the sentences, though? i mean, some of the guidelines actually call for much longer sentences. the prosecutors in some cases ask for decades. they're getting 17 and 18 years, which are some of the longest sentences handed out in general. do you think it's appropriate? can you explain to us, programs, why these sentences are so lengthy for what they're accused of doing? >> well, they're so lengthy because but for the proud boys, i don't know if we see rioters at the foot of the steps, right after president trump is done speaking. the proud boys marched to the capitol while the rally was going, responsible for the breach at the fence at the peace circle. a lot of proud boys were breaking down the fencing so rioters could get on the steps, and we see proud boys on the east side of the capitol leading that breach as well. they're responsible for some o. most egregious violence on that day. they were the foot soldiers. that's why we're seeing the longest sentences for them. >> is it also because of the nature of the crime? the judge suggested that they were trying to undermine the foundation of our society and that alone carries some weight here. >> we showed the clip of dominic pezzola smoking a cigar at the capitol afterward. folks came here to stop the lawful transfer of power, and the proud boys were violent offenders and trying to make sure that president biden didn't assume office. >> i want to ask you about some of the developments in the georgia election interference case. the former trump attorney kenneth chesebro says that he wants to sever his early trial from the other codefendants sidney powell, another trump election lawyer, if you can call them that. what do you make of that move? some people have suggested he doesn't want to get tied up with sidney powell because believe it or not, sidney powell might be even more out there than he is. >> you nailed it on the head. the one thing that's clear from the legal filing is mr. chesebro wants nothing to do with ms. powell. he claims he doesn't want the evidence in, the key here to take a step back is unfair prejudice. if i'm a prosecutor presenting evidence against mr. chesebro, right, it's going to be prejudicial, because it's evidence against him. it's unfairness here. i don't know if his argument ra reaches the burden he needs to reach. the fake elector scheme was only valid in his mind because of the election fraud that ms. powell was going around the state of georgia talking about. under this criminal enterprise, under this conspiracy, i'm not sure how he can make the argument that he'll be unfairly prejudiced by the evidence put forth against ms. powell in his case, and i think he has an up hill battle before the court. >> that's tricky legal maneuvering going on with these defendants. it's one more reason why 19 of these folks, fit's going to be really difficult for them to disentangle themselves from each other. marcus childress thank you so much. new calls on republican minority leader mitch mcconnell to step down over his age. this time it's not just coming from democrats, but instead from within his own party. >> right now the senate is the most privileged nursing home in the country. i mean, you know, mitch mcconnell has done some great things, and he deserves credit, but you have to know when to leave. >> and just this week, mcconnell froze while he was answering reporters' questions in kentucky. and this is just the second time that we've seen this from the 81-year-old this summer. it is reigniting a debate over age limits in washington and in politics. espn's steven a. smith is the host of "first take" and the host of the "steven a. smith show" on you tube, and he joins me now. good to see you. thanks for coming up. i was listening to your latest podcast, and you talk about this. in addition to talking about this, but you also had on a young up and coming, you know, figure in the political world, david hogg. >> yes. >> but if you were to look at the state of washington, the candidates that we have, do you think that there should be a requirement for people to step down, and at what age should that be? >> i don't think age should have anything to do with it, but i do believe that when you're looking at somebody who's health is clearly debilitating, at least to some degree, we're living in a society where those folks are being insulted. we're supposed to be revering and honoring the elderly. that's when they are willing to step away if they know that they're not, dare i say, as sharp as they used to be. and what we're finding right now is people are pushing them front and center because we have younger representatives who can't seem to gain any traction, can't seem to ingratiate to the point they're tagged ased future. what i was speaking about when i spoke about my podcast, listen, some would argue that president joe biden is doing an outstanding job on the left. folks on the right would feel otherwise. i brought up mitch mcconnell when he froze not once but twice to point out, okay, if you're on the right, you were quick to bring up every little thing about president biden, but you're going to ignore what you're seeing here, you can't ignore it. and the case of the left, you're looking at joe biden, i'm saying to myself, listen, this guy has been around far very long time. he was a senator for decades. we get all of that. we know who joe biden is. the flip side to it is that by knowing who he is, we also know that he's not what he used to be, and if you call yourself a progressive, a liberal, and you are relying on an 82-year-old, how old he would be at the time, time to run for reelection, what does it say about your party that you're depending on him in order to win an election. that to me is problematic, and i thought it needed to be said. >> it's on both sides, both the voters who are voting older people into office and the party that's keeping them in those positions. we played a nikki haley, she has been going after president biden on the age thing, but she's also proposed this mental competency test for politicians over the age of 75. i mean, do you agree with that idea? >> yes, i really do, and the reason why, because there's nothing wrong. if you're just saying there is a standard that needs to be met, and it's applicable to all on either side of the aisle, i'm all for it, because we certainly want people that are cogent enough and alert enough and in a position to handle their business. you're talking about a job that requires you to run the country. commander in chief for crying out loud, and it's not just about when it comes to law enforcement, you're talking about tax oreform, education. >> but shouldn't there be a mental competency test for all of them? >> no, no, what i'm saying is -- i'm saying it's a standard, i'm speaking to the standard. no one should be ostracized and no one should be immune from having to be subjected to the same standards. if there is a job, any job that you point to out there, it's a requirement that comes with it. you can't just walk on the air and be abby phillip. i mean, excuse me, this is a young lady doing great work at cnn and before that, "the washington post," and politico, and the list goes on and on, and steven a. smith, new york daily news, fox sports, espn, you can't walk through the door and do those jobs. there's a requirement that you have to meet in order to do certain things, regardless of the profession. why should the presidency of the united states or any elected office be any different. i have no problem with that. >> speaking of tests and requirements and since we have you here, vivek ramaswamy, he's proposing a constitutional amendment that would require that young people, people who are 18 to 24 years old to have to pass a civics test or serve six months in the nmilitary to even vote. is that fair? >> no. excuse my language, hell no. this is america and the reality of the situation is last time i checked, you know, there isn't a draft taking place to compel you to serve your country. it would be nice if everybody wanted to do it. but in america you have the freedom to do otherwise, and as far as i'm concerned to have a constitutional amendment that requires you to serve in that capacity, a capacity that he deems fitting, is a bit self-serving at this particular moment in time. he's an individual running for the presidency of the united states, and that's going to ingrateuate him with folks on the right. i'm scheduled to interview him in a matter of days. i'm glad you brought that up. i certainly don't agree with that. but, i understand why he's doing it because there are folks, voters on the right that that's going to, you know, that's going to sway them to some degree, and right now, i think we're living in an age where we see politicians on the campaign trail. you're willing to say whatever will cover votes. i'm not saying he does or doesn't. i don't know him. itch never talked to him. the bottom line is i find it difficult to believe you would come out of your mouth and say something like that as a potential elected official in the year 2023, unless you believed it was going to work favorably for you to get votes. >> you have an alternative candidate for democrats, other than joe biden. plus, a bit of a split screen brewing tonight as governor ron desantis denies plans to meet with the president tomorrow in florida, despite president biden saying that they would. and we'll talk to the teen involved in a back and forth with desantis over posing this question on the campaign trail. >> do you believe that trump violated the peaceful transfer of power a key principle of american democracy that we must uphold? 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>> well, listen, i wouldn't be where i am today if it were not for skip bayliss giving me the opportunity to be on the show in 2012. he's a friend and a brother, and i'm eternally grateful to him for the opportunity that he gave me, but he's on the other side now. michael ervin is a friend of mine. key shawn johnson is a friend of mine. richard sherman, michael ervin and myself, and key shaun johnson and myself, we're brothers with one another. they know what time it is. they're on the other side. they do what they do at fs1, i do what i do at "first take," i arrived in 2012, we have been number one since. he was going from 2016 to 2023, we still, first take still remains number one, and as far as i'm concerned, as long as i'm on the show, we're going to stay number one. i don't play to lose. knock on wood, who knows what's going to happen. god has blessed me and molly and all the producers and honcho, is the espn, but abby phillip i don't play to lose. i play to win. i'm not rooting against skip or all of my brothers, but i am rooting for myself. i don't want them to fail. i just want them to be perpetually in second place to "first take" and i aim for it to be exactly that in anything i do. it's skrujust that simple to me >> and that's that on that. i hear you. catch steephen on espn and you tube. stephen a. smith, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you so much for having me. take care of yourself. good luck, and keep up the great work you have been doing. >> thank you. up next, president biden says that he is meeting with ron desantis tomorrow in florida, but desantis's team says no. we'll discuss what's going on there. plus, donald trump has some ironic advice for one of his rivals, vivek ramaswamy. >> he's starting to get out there a little bit. he's a little bit controversial. i got to t tell him, be a littl bit careful. 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usually this is a time to put politics aside, ayou know, it's had mixed results with chris christie having a particular kind of moment. generally you put politics aside when talking about a storm like this. desantis, this appears to be a political move. >> it appears that way. just a year ago, last october when hurricane ian struck florida, president biden went down there. governor desantis and his wife greeted him when he arrived, when president biden arrived, held a press conference alongside him, said that they don't agree all the time but they would put that aside and work to go. chris christie is another example, where he even pushed back republican criticism in 2012 and 2013 saying, no, president obama worked with me well, kept his promises and republicans are playing politics. >> the hurricane ian example, the image that came out of that, of biden kind of being chummy with the people on the ground and desantis kind of out there by himself. that was not a great image for desantis. it makes me wonder. there it is. it's a meme now. >> it's weird. >> it makes me wonder if they're trying to avoid a second run of that. >> i'm sure they are, but i think what it does is it focuses on how petty, and how juvenile i think this makes desantis look, especially because it is such a contrast with when he was doing it in the wake of hurricane ian, and i think that made both leaders look good. it made both leaders look exactly like they were doing their job, putting politics aside, making sure that the well being and the recovery of the state was first and foremost. this makes desantis look like he is failing, flailing, insecure, and nervous about what any kind of image of him next to president biden would do for his political campaign. that is not putting his constituents first. >> i want to switch gears a little bit. one of the -- there's ron desantis, and probably the only other candidate getting as much attention right now is vivek ramaswamy, but here's what donald trump, who is actually typically been super, you know, complementary of ramaswamy, here's what he said with glen beck earlier this week. >> he's starting to get out there a little bit. he's getting a little bit controversial. i would tell him, be a little bit careful. there's some things you have to hold in just a little bit, right? he's got a lot of good energy, i will tell you. he's been very nice to me. >> very nice. i mean, trump loves compliments. >> what shall we make of this? >> i don't think much of it. i have said this for a long time. if trump at some point views ramaswamy as a potential threat, i can guarantee you, donald trump will focus on ramaswamy. >> do you think that's happening? that was a bit of a dig. >> it was be careful, you're kind of getting into my lane. i will say this. i think that vivek is doing well in the debates in part because he's saying things that republican voters to to hear. but i think in terms of what lane he's going to get and whether or not he has enough support to win in iowa or new hampshire, i don't necessarily see that, and i think another question that hasn't come up yet. with evangelicals, we haven't spoken about vivek's faith. where does that lie with republican voters and when that question comes up, how will he respond? . >> it has come up. he's not christian. it has come up in other ways. >> after the debate, the polls have shown, including in iowa, that evangelicals in that state are squarely in trump's corner, and that the majority of iowa caucus voters, primary voters are in trump's corner. still, i don't think that ramaswamy has seen any type of substantial surge since that debate, despite the fact that he has been getting a lot of attention and incoming from the other candidates because he's only gone up by about 4 percentage points which still puts him double digits behind. >> the morning console poll showed the unfavorability rating dropped after the debate. he's not winning. >> he's not winning anyone. a lot of people like him because he's exciting and energetic and they ask, can this guy lead the country. will any of these ideas actually work? >> before you jump in, just to that point, there was a "new york times" op-ed by david french who's noted, not a noted liberal scholar, he wrote this, if you watched the first republican debate or listened to five minutes of ramaswamy's commentary, you will note he's exceptionally articulate, but also ignorant or feigning ignorance about public affairs. french is saying, he's loud but he's wrong. >> he was wrong on so many of the things that he talked about in that debate, and to me it was scarily wrong. first of all, he talked about how if he was mike pence he would have passed a law right then and there. does this guy even know how government works. the fact of the matter right after the debate you saw so many women saying this guy hates women. i mean, the things that he was talking about, the conspiracy theories, the extremist ideas, i think, are going to put him on a path to frankly, i think he was trying out for vice president because he was clearly talking about things that made him a complete mini trump. >> this is the same guy that said people should pass a civics test to vote, yet he's unaware of his constitutional duties as vice president. >> i don't think he would pass that civics test, and that's a problem. >> real quick, last word, is this a ploy? the climate agenda is fake, but he doesn't say climate change is fake? is he playing word games? >> he's winking and nodding. president trump has called it a hoax. h he really has no hope of winning them over in time for early primary contest sgls. >> he's loving this, all the knives are out for him. >> all the knives are out for him, which is a fascinating element of the campaign. thank you all very nuch. and up next for us, a 15-year-old student at the center of a back and forth with ron desantis after asking him a tough question at a town hall. that student will join me live next. blplus the decades old audi ta tapes that reveal what she thought about the drama. >> the whole thing is ridiculous. 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>> are you in high school? >> yeah. >> where do you go to school, around here? >> vermont, but i live in new hampshire. >> you come from vermont. thank you for the question. here's what i know. if this election is about biden's failures and our vision for the future, we are going to win. if it's about relitigating things that happened two, three years ago, we're going to lose. >> and since then, quinn says that he has had physical interactions with desantis's team, that he has been blocked from any further interaction with the governor. cnn has reached out to desantis's campaign and super pac and asked for comment. we have not heard back. however, quinn mitchell joins me now. quinn, thank you for being here. >> thank you so much, how are you doing? >> i'm great. i remember that moment pretty distinctly because it caught my attention. what caught my attention also is that desantis didn't really answer your question. what do you make of the fact that he seemed to struggle there with that question that you asked him? >> i mean, it's concerning because this is a question he should have, you know, saw coming from a mile away. it's just a very simple question about january 6th, and he needed to articulate an opinion. it's on a lot of voter's minds, and he should have been sitting with advisers wondering how are we going to answer this, dodge this, and there's an option c, you continue to dodge it and physically intimidate a teenager in order to not be asking questions. >> walk us through these interactions you have had with the governor's security. what happened? >> yeah, so after my first encounter with him, june 27th. i it won't a july 4th parade for him, and listen he got -- chris christie yelled at him on tv, i felt bad about it, maybe he didn't have time to answer it. i wanted to give him the platform to reanswer it. met with glares. the team glared at me. when i got close to him, i was pulled away and surrounded by security. i was told not to move for five minutes while that was going on. it was definitely physical intimidation, and my next event for him, met with hostile glares, they were sneaking pictures of me with the snapchat caption, got our kid. it's concerning to me, and a restriction of free speech. it's very concerning they're willing to go to that extent to shut down a very simple question about january 6th. >> did you reach out to ron desantis personally, and did you hear back from him? >> i don't exactly have the contacts to do that. i wish i did. after the parade, i expected somewhat of an apology because just because that sort of behavior in new hampshire doesn't play to voters. they want you to answer questions, and they're going to get mad if you don't answer questions. i'm not out here looking for an apology, but it's definitely concerning to me. >> one of the reports said that the governor's wife casey desantis talked to your family and suggested that you were lying about all of this. what's your message to mrs. desantis? >> i mean, i just think it's concerning. i mean, i didn't personally hear it, i just heard my mom say that's not okay, over and over and over again. i think desantis should have made note of it. he said come to the next event and we'll get to the bottom of it. ge again, it's concerning to me. i felt the story needed to be shared. >> you said you're not looking for an apology, if one was received, would you think that was appropriate? >> probably, yeah, i've never been one for personal attacks and i don't mean to this to evolve into a bad fwiight betwe me and desantis. yeah, i think i would accept a personal apology. yeah. >> you can continue, but what? >> yeah, i mean, i think i would be looking -- i'm not really looking for a personal apology, but it's definitely concerning to me that they did go to that extent, and i'm not looking for a food fight here. that's the last thing i want. i just really want to respect new hampshire vote skpers and ge opportunity to ask the questions. >> that's the new hampshire tradition. you are getting a head start on that. you're not even old enough to vote yet, and you're a self-described independent also a new hampshire tradition. you have heard from a lot of republicans in the field, who's catching your attention, who's standing out to you and your peers? >> obviously we see candidate likes chris christie and vivek ramaswamy doing well. they're going all around the state, taking questions, and meeting voters after events. stump speech only goes so much. people in new hampshire value their time with candidates and to be able to ask hard-hitting questions that are on their minds and when it a candidate doesn't allow that, it's not going to go well in new hampshire. i think chris christie will do well in new hampshire. i expect him to do well, and vivek ramaswamy is going all around the state and taking questions and encouraging healthy debates. nikki haley as well. new hampshire really values their retail politics, so those candidates will do well. >> i'm a big fan of tough questions, too, quinn, i think you're doing a great job so far. thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you so much. and 26 years since princess diana's deaths, new audio recordings that she taped in the 1990s were just released and what they reveal about prince harry's birth will surprise you. >> harry's christening, charles went up to mommy, and said you were so disappointed, you thought it would be a girl. and mommy snapped his head off. from one serving. to helelp keep me sharp. try new neuriva ultra. think bigger. my frequent heartburn had me taking antacid after antacid all day long but with prilosec otc just one pill a day blocks heartburn for a full 24 hours. for one and done heartburn relief, prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn. the first time you connected your godaddy website and your store was also the first time you realized... well, we can do anything. cheesecake cookies? 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(we did it) start today at godaddy.com >> the story surrounding the birth of rock and roll, have been dominated by elvis and the beatles. now little richard, i am everything are revealing the black queer origination of rock n roll. >> man, he was so hot! we play something like five nights a week. two or three a day. >> remember the 1950s there is legal segregation, black, kids are not able to listen to music in the same spaces as white kids. >> white and black musicians were not able to play together. >> they had one for white and the next night for african american. >> but the white kids would come to the black concert too. >> joining mere is david fear, the senior rock critic at rolling stone. david, it was hard to how did that happen that he could become such a major star? in the south? in the 1950s? >> i think this is a question that any fan of little richard, any amateur historian, how did this happen? i don't understand. i think a lot of ways because his persona challenged all these ideas of gender nonconformity, race and ethnicity, he was so flamboyant, he would get away with this stuff. he was harmless too. rock 'n' roll, he was also an artist and an incredibly influential one too. i think because of that flamboyance people tended to not take him so seriously, after that initial wave of popularity and later in his career. he was the origin necessitator of rock 'n' roll. set the standards for a modern rebel. >> early rock stars elvis and the beatles they were imitating him. they were singing his songs. and eventually they overshadowed him in some ways. what do you make of why that happened? and, you know, what impact that in and of itself had on little richard throughout his life? >> before we get to elvis and the beatles, there are two things you have to say, that is pat boone. what they tried to do, the pourings that be, they wanted to make money off the music he was making, this incredibly iraq you music that teenagers loved, but they gave the song tutti fruiti to pat boone. it outsold three to one. it's ridiculous, it couldn't be less rock 'n' roll yet he persevered, he had these great songs and he was massively influential. you are talking about elvis covering, they started covering his songs. but i think his real influence how this affected him was that it made him very angry later in life. he never felt like he got his due. but he also realized that his influence on all these artists from elvis and the beatles to madonna and on and on it kept going and going. eventually at the end of his career, when people were recognizing how influential he had been and sort of giving him more credit, he looked at his children, there is a great line in the documentary, i want them to spread my message, take that energy that i've given to them and bring it out to the world. >> david fear. great conversation. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> little richard, i am everything, it preemples out cnn. up next, princess diana, in her own words, in never before heard audio recordings from more than 30 years ago. >> we all knew how much we all hated you for what you've done. type 2 diabetes? 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