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"the lead" starts right now. the rioter who smashed in that capital window, and another who helped organize the violent attack new quite lengthy prison sentences for the so-called proud boys and we begin to see the u.s. justice system come down on those who played lead leadership roles in trying to over turn the 2020 election. plus -- >> two years has gone by and where are we? to be frank, we're knee deep in bullshit. >> a demand for answers from grieving parents. 13 u.s. service members were killed in that chaotic withdraw from afghanistan. gold star families this week were asking their leaders pointed questions today, where we're going to try to begin to start to get some answers. but first, the judge's decision expected at any moment that could change the trajectory of the fulton county case, including donald trump. welcome to "the lead," i'm jake tapper. and we begin with our law and justice lead. at any moment, a u.s. district judge could decide if former trump white house chief of staff mark meadows will face trial in georgia, or in federal court. meadows argues that his case belongs in federal court because, as trump's right-hand man at the white house, he said his actions were thus part of official government duties. meadows faces charges for participating in trump's infamous phone call to brad raffensperger where he was asked to, quote, find enough votes for him to flip the state from biden to trump. a fulton county judge yesterday ruled that cameras will be allowed in his courtroom in this sprawling election sub version case. so if meadow zz end up in federal court, he'll avoid the television cameras and avoid playing a starring role alongside mr. trump which is likely to become the most watched trial of all time. as for some of trump's other co-defendants, four more of them pleaded not guilty today and that brings the total to 10 out of 19. some are struggling to pull together funds for these mounting legal bills. at least four have turned to crowd funding, one has a political action committee and another has an ally in congress but they do not have any sign that donald trump intends to help any of them. he told news max, he doesn't even know a lot of them. here with me, jessica schneider and tom dupree, attorney general in the george w. bush administration. thank you for being with us. jessica, when do we expect this u.s. district judge to decide where mark meadows will have to face trial? >> it could come at any time but we're expecting it owill likely come from wednesday. that is the day for the a arraignment. but the judge just got this extra briefing amounting to about 35 pages and the issue here that the judge really seems to be focusing on is whether maybe one of these acts, in the multiple acts that were listed in the indictment, if even one of those acts touched on mark meadow's role as a federal office, does that men mean it should be removed? mark meadows team is saying, yes, absolutely, even if one of those acts even remotely touched on his duties, it should be moved to federal court. fani willis's team is pushing back in their briefs saying, no, this indictment was about the broad conspiracy, not just one single act. so, it needs to be, you know, multiple acts here that would require the removal. so we'll see what this judge could rule in the coming days, likely i would think by wednesday. >> tom, if meadows case is moved to federal court, how would that impact this sprawling case being brought by district attorney fani willis against 19 defendants? >> i think it would have the likely effect of breaking things up. from my perspective, i think it is unlikely that even if meadows is allowed to defend himself in federal court, that all 19 cases will move like a mag met to a federal court with him. i think the likely scenario is the federal court might take jurisdiction over several of the defendants maybe even president trump, but moving into federal court and the other thing is you have timing issues. some of the defendants in state court are eager for a fast trial. the district attorney seems eager to accommodate that so that could be another faker. we could see cases moving ahead quickly, if they are federal court cases they would move on a slower timetable. >> and bring us up to speed on ken cheesebro. he is asking and able to get a speedy trial. so that is going to start in october. so what is next for him? >> we've actually seen this flurry of filings from his team. so first of all, he's asking for the prosecutors to speed up their production of discovery here. basically prosecutors have told his team that they won't be getting all of the documents to them by september 15th even though the team has handed him a hard drive for the documents. he said why are we waiting two more weeks when this trial is starting on september. you can't ask for this speedy trial and then not give us the documents. and secondly, just a few hours ago, he also filed a motion to not have -- to have his case tried solo. he does not want to go to trial alongside sidney powell, who has also asked for a speedy trial. his team is saying that he had no communication ever with sidney powell, they're not accused of the same thing. so they really want to separate themselves in particular from sidney powell here. >> and tom, mr. trump yesterday formally asked a judge to receiver his case and he argued le not have sufficient time to prepare his defense by october 23rd, two short months away pretty much. it is reasonable to think a judge might agree with that, right? >> i do. i think that is reasonable. i mean, even if you weren't the former president preparing for a trial of this complexity and in two months i think would be a difficult task. so i think the former president would be unfairly strong ground asking that whatever his trial date is set, maybe next year rather than in october with the other folks. >> jessica and tom, thank you. and here to discuss, mark short. he deserved as chief of staff to mike pence. so, first, good to see you. >> thanks. >> so this is first time i've talked to you since trump turned himself in fulton county jail. you worked for pence, but previously you were trump's director of legislative affairs and i want to get your response as a human being, when you look at the mug shot of donald trump, the former president, you've seen it now, i'm pointing it to you but you don't need to see it, i guess. what is it like to see your former boss, a guy you worked for and a guy whose legislation and polies you tried to enact, you had to have believed in him. >> oh, sure. >> what is it like to see that photo? >> i think it is sad and i think it is tragic, jake. i'm proud of the four years of record and think i the president was great to me and great to my family. so, i don't think there is any celebration. i do think that the events of january 6 were tragic and certainly avoidable. and i think that the president got a lot of bad counsel, counsel he sought out that led him astray and i think that ultimately asking the vice president to put aside the constitution is a violation to the american people, to protect and defense the constitution. >> i know this town gets caught up in politics a lot, understandably so. it is important and policies are important too. but we all are humans. when you talk to other people who worked in the trump white house, not those who were charged with crimes, but people like you, people who tried to do the right thing like the vice president, et cetera, what do are you hearing from them about this, the mug shot and everything? >> i think that in some cases, it is probably a little bit surreal for a lot of people. you into he had to have a little bit of distance from it. but i think there is obviously a lot of us who felt that the events that day were tragic and that what the president was asking the vice president to do was an thet cal to his oath. i think there are others who feel that they still want to defend the president and move forward with his candidacy in 2024. i think they want this to go away. >> fulton county judge ruled that all proceedings in the courtroom will be on camera. now we don't know if ultimately donald trump will be in federal court or the georgia court. but assuming he's in georgia, and his -- and the case is televised, he's a former reality tv star, do you think him being in a televised trial helps him or hurts him. >> i don't know. i think there is a lot that is counter intuitive. i think you've seen with each indictment, republican voters raly around the president. it is hard to know. but it is a difference. i think when you're in that environment, you can't control the narrative or the setting as much. so i can't imagine that it is a positive or that it would be beneficial politically to him. >> yeah, another person with a mug shot now, former white house chief of staff mark meadows. he is arguing and we were just covering, the idea that like his actions involved in trying to overturn the election in georgia specifically, were related to his job as white house chief of staff. and therefore it should be a federal case, not a georgia case. what do you make of just that claim? that this was him doing his job as a federal employee? >> again, i'm very sympathetic, i think he was acting at the president's behest and i think you could make the argument as part of his role as chief of staff. but as i said. i think what undercuts that argument, if you're in that federal role how come none of the white house counsel is there with you. it is clear that white house counsel was giving very different advice to mark went outside and found independent counsel to try to overturn the results in georgia and i think that that obviously argues against this is part of your federal role. ba you clearly w w w relying on the people giving counsel in the white house. you went outside of the white house to get independent counsel to try to advocate in some way that something could come out different in georgia. >> the white house counsel and other advisers were very clearly opposed to all of this. >> correct. that is right. what do you think will happen to the case if judge kicks the case to federal court? >> i'm not a lawyer. it is hard for me to know that. >> but you're a smart guy. >> look, i think it is interesting that in the federal indictments, that considering mark's central role in that, he was not included. so i think there is reason to believe that he's been cooperating with the prosecution in that case. >> on the federal level. >> yes. so it is interesting to see if it gets month of-- gets moved i venue. >> why do you think that would be? because you have noted that mark was the ringleader, that is your word, a lot of the attempts to subvert the election and over turn the election in various states, not just georgia and his fame does not appear in the federal indictment, not as a co-conspirators or a co-defendant, his name is not there. >> right. >> so you believe that he must be cooperating to a droegree whh is a reasonable suspicion. why would he cooperate with that one and not the georgia case. i can't understand that. >> well, again, maybe the perception is that if you get it moved into federal court, then you could get cooperation to help remove the state charges. so, that would be my best guess, jake. >> let's discuss special counsel jack smith's federal investigation that we were just talking about. begin that smith said he could con duck this trial in four to six weeks, do you think others have struck deals before this goes to trial. >> i could imagine that is the case. certainly. >> have you heard -- >> no, i have not. but it would seem to me it is a pretty monumental case. so, perhaps the prosecution could go with that speed and trying the former president of the united states. >> and who do you make of the fact that donald trump and his pacs, his political action committee are not helping the georgia defendants even though they are helping some of the others that have been charged on a federal level? >> well i think there has been a lot of fundraising that has gone to pledge for people to give money that there is this legal defense fund that is helping a broad number of people who haven't gotten assistance. i think there is even questions to the extent to which they've been fundraising off of this, has it been legitimate fundraising cause or has the money been diverted for other purposes? >> mark short, good to have you here. i hope you have a nice relaxing labor day weekend. >> same to you. and coming up next, the conversations among senate republicans facing questions about the health of mitch mcconnell. what is his future going forward? and labor day weekend, one of the busiest holiday travel steps of the year, trouble spots expecting congestion, a.k.a. delays for you. but first the urgent manhattan just outside of philadelphia for that extremely dangerous killer. what authorities said just moments ago about the inmate on the run. we. that's why dove body wash now has 24 hour renewing micro moisture for continuous care. dove body wash. change is beautifuful. we, the first generation of moms to lose our kids to social media, are sick of waiting. for 25 years, there's been no new laws protecting kids online. while our children are dying. we can pass the kids online safety act. join us. join us. join us. join us. ♪ let's lead the way. ♪ ("drumroll" by lónis, little league ) ♪ ( ♪ ♪ ) ♪ this just in ♪ ♪ got the keys to what you want and what you need ♪ ♪ something new something sweet ♪ ♪ moving to a different beat ♪ ♪ okay now (what?) ♪ ♪ can i get a (get a) drumroll? 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>> right. of course. publicly most republicans and even some democrats are not worried about mitch mcconnell's ability to continue leading his conference. but privately, there is a lot of frustration and concern about the lack of transparency with his health and what is really going on here. and and i could tell you, there are growing doubts about whether mitch mcconnell will continue to serve as gop leader beyond 2024. that is when his current term as republican leader is set to expire. so, all of this likely to come to the spotlight next week when the senate returns from their recess. mitch mcconnell presumably will have a press conference next week in front of reporters. we've seen him freeze up in two incidents in the last month in front of press conferences. so that is something to watch. and then he's also going to face his members in their weekly conference meeting and we're also hearing there is some chatter among rank and file members about forcing a special conference meeting to specifically discuss his leadership. it will only take five republicans to call for such a meeting. but there is not a mechanism to easily force him or force him out of his position. so more than likely to be a frustration and veptnting sessi, but something we're keeping an eye on. >> and there are three senate republicans, the three johns, would could potentially replace mcconnell. >> yeah. so there is long speculation about who would succeed mcconnell when he does step aside and they all happened to be named john. john berasso of wyoming and john cornyn of texas and john thune of south dakota, all around leadership and close to mcconnell and all have differing approaches to donald trump which could come into play if a race for leader. this is a dog fight. and mitch mcconnell has been in that role since 2007. the longest serving party leader in senate history. so it is a seismic shift inside of the gop whenever he does decide to step aside, jake. >> berasso, the trumpist of the three. >> yes. >> thank you so much. and coming up next, the new principle sentences rolling in for members of the so-called proud boys after their violent attack on police officers. and others at the u.s. capitol. plus the origins of the far right group and the ownthers on the radar of the fbi. ♪ ♪ wherever you go. wherever you stay. all you need is one key. earn and use rewards across expedia, hotels.com, and vrbo. my a1c was up here; now, it's down with rybelsus®. his a1c? 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>> reporter: that is right, jake. that is part of the new information that we learned in the past few hours from a press conference from local law enforcement officials. first is that police believe there is no evidence at this point to suggest that anyone is helping this escaped inmate at this time. the second thing that we also learned from this press conference is the district attorney believes that escapee is still in this general area. the d.a. saying we believe he's hiding. somewhere locally and is still alone. and the third thing we learned, jake, is that there is reason to believe that this suspect is heading south. and the stem of that belief really comes back to why he was in this principleson behind me. he was convicted of brutally murdering her girlfriend and just sentenced last week. well prosecutors said after that murder, in 2021, he tried to flee down to brazil. his home country. but he didn't get that far. law enforcement officers picked him up in virginia and that is why law enforcement officials today believe he may be trying to head south again. but the u.s. marshals, they are not deterred. take a listen to what one representative had to say at this press conference. >> they have no reason to believe mr. cavalcante has left the area, however if he does, u.s. marshal has a long arm to touch anyone this this country and we'll stop at nothing until we bring him back to custody to our state and local partners. >> reporter: jake, law enforcement officials urging people in chester county to be extra vigilant during this holiday weekend saying to check your sheds and surrounding areas. abou but if you do come into contact, call 911, don't try to communicate with him. >> jake. i wouldn't check my shed if i lived in chester county. describe the area around the prison. how easy would it be for splun to hide there? >> reporter: well, two that point, jake, it really is a diverse terrain in the area around the prison. i'm looking this way behind the camera. you could see basically a lot of almost forest-like area here. but if you go a few minutes down this road, to my left here, there are a lot of corn fields. so it is a diverse area out here in chester county. clearly part of the challenge that law enforcement are facing as they search for this escaped inmate. >> danny freeman, thank you so much. and now in our law and justice lead. remember this guy. the one who smashed a window to the capitol building from a riot shield he grabbed. he was sentenced to 10 years in prison. dominic pezzola is a member of the proud boys and he'll join fellow proud boy ethan nordean who may be sentenced, he was considered the leader of the poyd boys but did not actually enter the capitol. evan perez is with us now. so far sentences have been significantly lower than what justice department prosecutors had asked for. but still pretty high. >> they're pretty harsh sentences, jake. look, the justice department asked for 20 years for pezzola who was sentenced today. he got 10. this was, you know, listen to some of the sentences has been really instructive in what a tragedy january 6 was for everyone, including some of the people who are accused of entering the building, helping carry out some of the crimes. you've seen obviously the pictures of pezzola breaking the window there. leading what the judge said, he was the tip of the spear for people who went into that building. but the other thing that you hear, certainly right now as we're listening, as we're watching nordean being sentenced as we speak in the federal court in washington here, you hear from their families. you hear from them apologizing, tearfully, because they realize what is about to happen to them. the prosecutors have been asking for very hefty sentences and in some cases for leaders of proud boys, joseph biggs, and for zackory rehl, in the case of biggs they got 17 and others got 15 years. these are hefty sentences. they're going to have their daughters grow up without their fathers being there. but the judge, one of the things that he just mentioned in court, was that what happened on january 6 and the violence that happened that day was more than just that. there was something that was lost for all americans. which was the tradition, at long held tradition of a peaceful transfer of power. which we've lost. and we will have to build the next time there is an election and next time there is a transfer of power. so one of the things we're watching for now is nordean. he took over the leadership of the proud boys after enrique tarrio was arrested and he's facing his own sentencing next week. so he's -- they're going to be the 5th of the proud boys that are -- that are facing sentencing in this federal court again by judge timothy kelly. >> and enrique tarrio, the chairman of the so-called proud boys, that sentence is next week. what are we expecting at that hearing? >> we're expecting, again, for the justice department to emphasize what happened on january 6 and what these men did. enrique tarrio was banned from being inside of washington on that day. so he wasn't there. >> but he had stolen a black lives matter -- >> they were watching him and is he certainly knew that he had some weaponry on him and so they news what he was up to and what they were -- they were trying to p prevent what happened on january 6 and thought about arresting him it could send a message. in the end nordean took over and egged on the crowd and told them what they should do that day. carry out that day, the violence that happened. of course, that was one of the things that the prosecutors are going to emphasize at the enrique tarrio sentencing was that for months these men were at the forefront of political violence around the country. a lot of it at the egging of the former president. and so obviously this is also the courthouse where donald trump himself is going to perhaps face some consequences for what he inspired on january 6. he's going to go on trial there in the coming months, jake. >> evan perez, thank you so much. let's bring in chief law enforcement analyst john miller. let's revisit the four proud boys who have been sentenced. we don't know the sentence for nordean but these four will add up to around 50 years. 15 for zackory rehl and nordean and pezzola got 10. three of the four were convicted and then sentenced on a very difficult to prove seditious conspiracy charge. we talked about this when they were charged. there were people speculated that they would not get convictions on those because those are tough to prove. what do you make of it all? >> well, i think it is a very hard charge to prove. it is why prosecutors use it so seldom. but it is also an effective idea that regular american citizens are only rarely in the habit of trying to do something you could equate from trying to overthrow the government. the last time they used this seditious conspiracy charge successfully was in 1995 against the so-called blind shake, omar ab dell rackman who was charged in a conspiracy to blow up u.s. government buildings and landmarks on behalf of the bin laden and al qaeda. so it is a big step to use against americans. but when you have a case that you're charging there is a conspiracy to invade the capitol and interrupt the process of democracy to wit the counting of electoral votes for the president, that is about as close as you're going to get to a seditious conspiracy and in a modern age. >> two years before the deadly insurrection, trump's justice department identified white supremacists and far right extremists as the most significant domestic tahreat facing the u.s. at the time. is this far right still considered the biggest, the far right activists and militia groups an the right, the violent folks, are they still considered the biggest threat to the u.s. right now? >> i would say that my last year or two even depending on where you set your watch with the new york city police department, assessing terrorist threats against the united states, and specifically the city, would validate that theory. because, yes, it is important to note, and we cannot for a moment look away, understanding that isis and al qaeda and hezbollah are still groups that have aspirations to strike on u.s. soil. we can't look away from that. on the other hand, if you compare the body count, if you look at the buffalo supermarket shooting, if you look at allen, texas, mall shooting, woun by a white supremacist and next by a neo-nazi or the el paso shooting targeting migrants, you're seeing more people are being killed by people who are following this extreme right wing ideology than by al qaeda or isis combines, at least on u.s. soil. >> food for thought. thank you. and serious question. what is up with the new covid cases that your probably hearing about? why this latest wave might be worse than some people think. stay with us. ♪ the biggest ideas inspire new ones. 30 years ago, state street created an etf that inspired the world to invest differently. it still does. what can you do with spy? 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