office just ahead of trump's surrender at the fulton county jail on thursday. are law enforcement officials there prepared? trump's republican rivals are little over 24 hours away from their first debate on the eve of the former president's arrest. gop candidate asa hutchinson joins us live this hour to discuss his debate strategy and trump's decision to snub the event. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." we're keeping a close eye on fulton county jail and the courthouse where multiple trump codefendants were arrested or involved in new legal maneuvers today. we're also following breaking news on two of the famous trump allies indicted with the former president in georgia. cnn's paula reid is outside the courthouse in atlanta. she's got details. paula, you have new reporting on mark meadows' bid to get the georgia election subversion case tossed, what are you learning? >> reporter: that's right, mark meadows is hoping to move the state case in fulton county to federal court where he believes he would be successful in getting it dismissed. we're just learning the district attorney here in fulton county, fani willis, has subpoenaed two people to serve as witnesses in that dispute. both of these individuals listened in on that infamous call between former president trump and the georgia secretary of state where trump was pressing the secretary of state to find him the votes needed to flip the state. now, it's unclear if these witnesses will testify at a hearing on monday, but we know both mark meadows and former justice department official jeffrey clark are both trying to get their state cases moved to federal court and they're also now trying to get a federal judge to intervene so that they don't have to surrender by that friday deadline that the district attorney has imposed. >> you also have exclusive reporting, paula, on rudy giuliani's legal struggles in georgia, what are you learning there? >> reporter: that's right. he has legal struggles across the country right now, wolf. he is facing seven-figure legal debt, which has made it difficult for him to retain counsel, to get an attorney. and right now we have learned that former new york police commissioner bernie kerik, who is also an unindicted coconspirator in this case, is working closely with his longtime friend and ally, rudy giuliani, to help him through this process. bernie kerik in his role as a new york police commissioner has a lot of experience with this process. he also held a leadership role in the corrections system in new york. so he knows what this process is like, and he's trying to help giuliani find a georgia lawyer, which is what he needs for someone to sign his bond agreement. but it's unclear when giuliani will come to georgia to surrender. at this point, it does not appear he has an attorney, but he does aper to have the support of one of his unindicted coconspoor tors. >> we're joined by more legal and political experts. evan, how do these subpoenas fit into meadows' effort to try to fight the d.a.'s case? >> meadows is saying that he shouldn't even have to turn himself in. he's trying to force this federal judge essentially to move more quickly, to remove him, his case, from the state court. and so i think -- obviously it's not a bad argument for him to make. the problem with meadows' argument is obviously that he -- you know what he's charged with is doing things that go outside of the role of being a chief of staff. and so that's part of the issue for him and what he's going to confront. as you can tell from what paula just said, the fulton county d.a. appears to be meeting him halfway here by saying, okay, let's talk about that infamous phone call to brad raffensperger, and the pressure. because meadows spoke on that call, not only the former president. and the pressure they put on state officials to try to find those 11,780 votes. that is part of -- clearly part of what they're going to rebut, what meadows is making his argument on. >> laura, how likely is it, do you think, that meadows will succeed in getting this case moved to a federal court? >> this is not a slam dunk by any stretch of the imagination for mark meadows. certain criteria. one, you had to actually show there was something about what you were doing under the quote, unquote color of the office, meaning this was in your job description to do. remember, states are in charge of elections, not the federal government, not the chief of staff or president of the united states. another issue is that you have to have some kind of federal viable defense. what would the defense be in terms of not part of your job description to do so, why would they make sense? but there is benefit for him that he hopes for nonetheless, i'm sure he's hoping to get a jury in a different area other than fulton county. demographics might be more in his favor, he might believe. maybe the voting patterns in his favor. what does not change is it would still be state charges against him. it would be handled in a federal courtroom, yes. but it would still have state charges. if convicted, a state conviction would stand. and so it would be unpardonable as well. the benefit is the gamble of the jury pool. if you remove, you go from somebody appointed by brian kemp in this current judge to now somebody appointed by president barack obama, more seasoned as well on the bench. so if you buy into the philosophy that who appoints you might determine your fate, maybe he thinks russian roulette is appropriate. >> jamie gangella, we know rudy giuliani doesn't have a laureate in georgia. what happens if he doesn't show up by friday noon? that he's supposed to show up for this arrest? >> he'll get arrested. that potentially is -- >> bernie can help him with that, because bernie has experience -- >> bernie kerik. >> yes, he was in prison. >> it's interesting that we have this reporting now about bernie kerik helping him, as paula reported. let's just remind people about their relationship. it's actually not a surprise that bernie is helping him. he's a loyal friend. when rudy was running for mayor, he was his driver, he was his bodyguard. rudy made him police commissioner. that said, bernie kerik also was convicted on eight felonies. then rudy helped convince trump to pardon him. i mean, these two are very, very close. so it's not a surprise that bernie wants to hip him. what is a problem is bernie doesn't have the money to help rudy. bernie is not a lawyer. so he's helping him as a loyal friend. how this translates into finding rudy a real lawyer to defend him is still the question. >> giuliani apparently doesn't have any money to pay for a real lawyer right now. >> right. >> we'll see what happens on that front. >> one thing, money is one thing. this is not the ideal defense client, as well. everyone deserves to have the presumption of innocence, of course, and i hold that very dear. but this is somebody with so many cases against him, somebody who doesn't appear to be, through our reporter, to have the viable defense of, say, another person, somebody who is well-versed in rico, well-versed in the ideas of what the conversations had, his own discussions in georgia with the two women who are mother and daughter for the election officials as well. this is somebody who comes with a lot of baggage, and raps for many lawyers the juice is not worth the squeeze. >> good point too. paula, you're also doing a lot of reporting on this. how unusual is all of this that rudy giuliani's relying on bernie kerik for this kind of help? >> it's incredibly unusual. a former u.s. attorney, former new york mayor, who made a career prosecuting rico, now facing reek i don't charges in fulton county, georgia. he can't find a lawyer because he's in seven-figure legal debt. because he has so many legal problems. it appears the only person willing to stand by him right now is the former new york police commissioner, who is also an unindicted coconspirator in this case. bernie kerik has his own conviction, pardoned as jamie noted by former trump, who is also a defendant in this case. the other big question that makes this even more unusual is among the bond requirements, there are limits on the extent to which you can talk to defendants. it's unclear if rudy giuliani could be restricted from talking to unindicted coconspirators, which would mean he couldn't talk to bernie. >> that's a good point. laura, trump's bond agreement orders him to not to try to intimidate witnesses or obstruct the administration of justice directly or indirectly. hours after this agreement, he slammed the fulton county d.a. on social media. he's really pushing the boundaries, i suspect, of this order? >> i mean, this was probably totally predictable, which is why maybe it was included in this particular order. but at the same time, if it was predictable, he would have known what could happen if he actually were to violate it. it's the very first time in the now four indictments he's actually had this warning beforehand, before he's done something on truth social. remember in the judge chutkan matter when jack smith came out to say, ah-ha, let's get this in that order. one of the issues is because of the volume of cases, a statement he makes on truth social or otherwise, to which case will it be ascribed? how general must it be? how specific must it be to say, it's about this person in this moment, enough to actually incur the wrath of the judge? even in that, judge chutkan in the kind of reverse psychology said, the more this happens, the closer this trial dates becomes. he's in for quite a reality check. >> certainly are right as you always are. laura, thank you very much. thanks to everyone. be sure to watch laura coates anchoring "cnn primetime" tomorrow night, 11:00 p.m. just ahead, republican candidates are fine-tuning their strategies for a trump-freida bait. i'll talk to one of the contenders who will be on the stage, former arkansas governor asa hutchinson. inside the scramble to respond to threats against officials of georgia just ahead of donald trump's arrest. stay with us, you're in "the situation room." 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it's so critical for these candidates not named trump to seize this moment, this first big introduction to republican primary voters to put forth their own agenda, their own policy perspectives, and try to start coalescing the wing of the party interested in a nontrump candidate, wolf. >> how critical is wisconsin, david, where this debate will be held to winning the white house in 2024? >> reporter: as you know, it is one of five states that donald trump won in 2016 but that joe biden flipped blue in 2020. this state was decided by less than 1%, wolf. this is a true battleground of battlegrounds, and it will help determine who is the ultimate winner in this race. the republicans are hosting their first debate here because one year from now, this is where their nominating convention is going to be. this is where the republican nominee will be crowned in a sort of kickoff to the fall general election campaign. and part of choosing this as the home for the republican convention and one year away, the first debate, is to have a footprint here in a major battleground state. it's also why we saw president biden visit here last week ahead of the republicans. both sides are going to contest this state all the way through, wolf. >> david, stay with us. i want to bring in democratic strategic jamal simmons and cnn political commentator jeff duncan into this conversation. geoff is the former republican lieutenant governor of georgia. what do you think is the winning strategy for these eight republican candidates tomorrow night? >> i think donald trump not being there is a gift to these eight. some are going to squander it and try to pander to the 35% die-hard supporters of donald trump. but there's going to be a number of them that really play out to the 65%, when you're keeping score at home, over 50 million republicans still that identify as persuadable. i think if they put a plan in place that makes sense about how they can have conservative solutions to joe biden's problems, and if they can have a strategy as to how to win, if they can call honest balls and strikes on donald trump for quite honestly lying to the republican party, taking us in the wrong direction, and putting us in this position to start with. if they do that, i think they can come out of this with head and shoulders above the field. >> interesting. jamal, as jeff said, trump will still be what they say, the elephant in the room over at the debate. other than the already vocal trump critics, do you think the rest of the field will be willing to actually directly criticize him? >> it doesn't seem like they're willing to directly criticize him, wolf. look respect there's an alternate universe that exists inside the republican party. iowa caucusgoers, skier% say they'll probably vote for donald trump in the caucus. an ap north pole said 65% of americans say they will definitely or probably not vote for donald trump in a general election. if they're trying to get nominated in the republican party, it's all maga all the time. you've got to appeal to these maga caucusgoers and primary voters in order to win. here's the danger for donald trump in not going to the debate. this is like a talent show. i know donald trump thinks he's the biggest star, but it's always possible somebody's going to have a breakout moment and sing a good song, and they will be the one everyone's talking about. donald trump won't ob stage to steal that limelight back. he's going to have to wait and try to do it through a social media post or some other factor. he won't be there to squash that fire while it's happening. i think that is the one danger for him for not showing up. >> david, as noted, desantis and ramaswamy will be both at center stage tomorrow night. what is the lineup on the stage revealing about a strategy about strategy tomorrow? >> as you know, the desantis campaign has made clear in terms of expectations, they are prepared for all the arrows coming their way. so if indeed that plays out, desantis will be there at the center taking a lot of the heat. he is the second-place candidate right now, although he's far behind donald trump. he is the closest contender. ramaswamy, for his part, has seen himself as somebody who is sort of the next generation of the trump movement. sort of trump 2.0 in many ways. and sees it as part of his mission to sort of stop desantis in his tracks here. so having them center stage, seeing where, since both are not interested in sort of taking the chris christie approach and actually going directly at donald trump, taking him on over all of these indictments and the like, the two of them will largely, i assume, try to avoid that and actually try to engage each other on some of their policy prescriptions to differentiate themselves in front of all these republican primary voters who will be watching. >> jeff, you were the former georgia lieutenant governor. you testified in the fulton county case. what's your reaction to trump's strategy to turn himself in in georgia the day after the debate? >> well, he's always tried to campaign in the media, right? that's kind of his m.o., and so be it. he's going to turn himself in. i'm one of those americans that's dumb enough to believe that a president with 91 indictments in multiple state and federal jurisdictions shouldn't be the president of the united states, or even be considered in the conversation. i think an interesting point to make is every single person, i'm betting, on that stage tomorrow does not believe the election was rigged, does not believe brian kemp, geoff duncan, brian raffensperger or any of us did anything wrong. they'reth are, with a few exceptions, too chicken to say it. i think ultimately the weight of 91 indictments, the weight of multiple jurisdictions chasing donald trump every minute of every day, is going to be more than he can bear. i don't believe he's going to be the nominee and this is the chance for somebody to step up and be the adult in the room, which i think is what america is waiting for. >> jamal, what's your reaction to that? 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>> if he were to violate that, then he could theoretically see himself behind bars. >> reporter: but there are threats targeting trump as well. court filings say a woman in illinois has been threatening to kill trump and his youngest son, barron, to shoot them, quote, straight in the face. jal 41, esther solis, whose son was shot and killed in the door of their home in 2020, worries about the overall climate of fear. >> i'm also concerned about the language that is being used by our leaders, both on the right and left. when we question the justice system, when we start to perpetuate false narratives about judges being in cahoots with conspiracies. >> reporter: former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe says what he's worried about most with these trials coming up is not the large, hostile crowd around courthouses but the individual lone wolf inspired by violent rhetoric who could target a court or city official connected to these cases. those people, mccabe says, are the hardest to find and of course the hardest to stop. >> so disturbing. brian todd, thank you very much. joining us to discuss is the former homeland security secretary, jay johnson. mr. secretary, thanks for joining us. how concerned are you by these threats to fulton county employees? how are officials working behind the scenes to try to ensure everyone's safety? >> first, wolf, i have a lot of confidence in law enforcement in the state of georgia, in fulton county. they've had a lot of time, many months, in anticipation of this indictment to plan for this moment. what is most disturbing to me are the threats directed against law enforcement personnel of a very personal nature. and i believe it's time that those who command a public voice, those who have a microphone, who have a loud voice, should be deemed to intend the consequences of their words. there is no excuse for extremist, irresponsible rhetoric. i've said many times on this network and elsewhere, those who engage in extremist, hateful, irresponsible rhetoric make unacceptable behavior acceptable. and for the violent few among us, violence inevitable. in terms of the planning for the arraignment, for the appearance in a couple of days, wolf, i'm sure there's been a lengthy, extensive dialogue between the secret service, between the d.a.'s office, between georgia law enforcement down to the minute, planning for mr. trump's appearance in atlanta. >> and he will be, of course, accompanied by secret service agents. the fulton county district attorney, as you know, mr. secretary, had to beef up her security. and just last week, a texas woman was arrested for threatening to kill the judge overseeing trump's federal election meddling case. how much does trump's rhetoric, do you believe, contribute to the current threat environment? >> i think the overall rhetoric in today's political environment contributes to much of what we see today. much of what we hear in terms of threats. i believe that, for example, january 6th was just the tip of the iceberg. but we should have seen it coming, given the rhetoric, given the accusations of a rigged election. it is most alarming to me today, wolf, that a sizable percentage of the republican party believes that the 2020 election was stolen, contrary to all evidence, contrary to every court ruling out there. and in this circumstance, when you have an elected official, when you have a public figure, when you have a host of a cable news show engaging in irresponsible rhetoric, they should be deemed to intend the consequences of their actions. >> you heard trump's racially coded attacks against fani willis. trump has also used similar tropes against two african american prosecutors in his other cases, the manhattan district attorney, alvin bragg, and the new york attorney general, letitia james. what's your reaction to that? >> my reaction to that is, first of all, if any sort of gag order is imposed on former president trump, the judge who imposes that order has to be prepared to enforce it. and think through imposing a gag order on someone who's a candidate for elective office in the midst of a campaign. but you know, equality -- equality in law means everyone who comes before the court has to abide by the same set of rules. and donald trump now is in a new phase where he is a criminal defendant in four different cases, in multiple jurisdictions. as a criminal defendant, he has to be expected to abide by the rules. >> certainly does. jay johnson, thanks so much for joining us, really appreciate it. just ahead, my one-on-one interview with a republican presidential candidate preparing for tomorrow's big debate. the former arkansas governor, asa hutchinson, standing by to join us live. and the harrowing rescue of schoolchildren trapped in a stranded cable car dangling hundreds of feet off the ground. i can't! i'm m just telling everyone!...hey! buy one pair, get one free for back to school. visionworks. see the difference. businesses need 5g solutions today. that's why they choose t-mobile for business. mlb partners with t-mobile to not only enhance the fan experience, but to advance how the game is played. aaa relies on t-mobile's network to stay connected nationwide, so they can help get their members back on the road. and we're helping pano ai innovate, to stop the spread of wildfires. now's the time to see what america's largest 5g network can do for your business. being middle class right now, it's tough making ends meet for sure. republicans in congress say if we just cut taxes even more for the biggest corporations the money will eventually someday trickle trickle down to you. right. joe biden would rather just stop those corporations from charging so damn much. capping the cost of drugs like insulin. cracking down on surprise medical bills and all those crazy junk fees. there's more work to do. tell the president to keep lowering costs for middle class families. 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"ada," that's what he called you, "ada hutchinson is too boring, he's at less than 1% and heading south, zero chance." governor, what's your strategy to stand out during tomorrow's debate and have a breakthrough moment? >> first of all, i think donald trump's getting a little bit weak on his nicknames. that doesn't mean a lot. but in terms of this debate, the fact that i'm here is a breakout moment for the campaign in and of itself. this is really my first opportunity on a broad scale to introduce myself to america, talk about my record, my vision for this country. and so that's the opportunity i have. very excited about being on that stage. >> you've said, governor, you intend to prosecute trump from the debate stage. what can you actually say to change the minds of trump supporters? >> whenever i use that phrase in a political sense, i want to make sure we describe the challenge to win in 2024 with donald trump. that's the case that has to be made, that we have to have a different direction for our party and for our country if we're going to win. and so that's going to be part of the discussion and the debate. and it's a case that has to be made in addition to what i want to do, my vision for this country, and the contrast with the other candidates, which is part of it as well. >> you've signed that pledge to support whoever the republican nominee is because you say you don't expect trump to be the nominee. but in our cnn poll of polls, trump is, look at this, up 40 points over his nearest rival. so what exactly are you expecting to happen to change that? >> well, i just came back from iowa, the iowa state fair. and what you see on the ground is not reflective in those polls. and the polls are accurate, but i think the voters in iowa and other places are saying, we've got to look at a different option. those numbers will move in the late fall and early winter. this is going to be a late deciding race, and part of it is they don't know where they're going to go. so that's why this debate is so important, to contrast the different candidates. as you see voters making decisions, you'll see those numbers change on donald trump. >> trump is scheduled as you know to surrender himself at the fulton county jail in georgia one day after the debate. are you concerned, governor that this will ultimately overshadow the debate and prevent anyone from really achieving a post-debate bump? >> every appearance he has in court, every hearing, every filing overshadows everything else. and so sure, and that's the reason that it's not fair to the voters to have four criminal cases pending against you and you can't even attend a debate, and you can't go to functions. how's the voters going to be able to make a fair decision? but also, how can you effectively lead whenever you have those distractions? and so it's not good for our country, but that's where we are. and we've got to make our case on this debate platform, and people will be listening. >> as part of trump's $200,000 bond, he's been ordered not to use social media to intimidate potential witnesses or codefendants. do you think trump is really capable of following that order, and what should happen if he breaks that rule? >> well, if it happened to anyone else, i know what would happen. i've been in court. i've seen judges hold defendants accountable. and i would expect that to happen in this case. and so there's a lot of leverage a judge has over those matters. and we'll see whether mr. trump decides to follow the instructions of the court, just like every other participant in the court system has to do. >> governor asa hutchinson, thanks so much for joining us. >> great to be with you, wolf, thank you. stay with cnn for analysis of the first republican presidential debate of the 2024 race. it all begins tomorrow at 11:00 p.m. eastern. coming up, imagine dangling 900 feet in the air for 14 hours. that nightmare was a reality for eight people including six children in pakistan today. we're going to bring you details of their harrowing rescue. that's coming up next. two weeks after flames ripped through maui, hawaii's governor says 87% of the burn zone has now been searched. we're going to talk to the fema administrator. that's coming up next. ...a c clown! sorry, what app was it again? no, no. just give me a second... amateueurs. ohhh! sorry everybodody. directv sports central gives you access to every game... ...so you never have to compromise on gameday. ...was that necessary? i was just illustrating a point. oh. get in the redzone with sports pack. call 1-800-directv hon? woo-hoo. you've gotta see this. the weathertech's here. 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(farmers mnemonic) two weeks after the deadliest american wildfire in a century, hawaii's governor now says 87% of the burn zone on maui has been searched with hundreds of people still missing. let's get an update right now from the fema administrator deanne criswell. thanks for all you're doing. how long do you think it'll take to complete this search? >> thank you, wolf. i had an opportunity to get a full brief from our urban search and rescue teams that are on the ground in maui. while we're 87% complete, where we find ourselves today is in an area that now requires some heavy equipment to go through the last bit of structures that have been burned to go in there and make sure that we are doing a thorough job and accounting for everybody that may have been perished in this fire. we still expect several more days for these teams to continue to go through this area. but, again, we're doing it very deliberately to make sure that we cover every square inch. as we continue to work with the community and with the local officials, we already have everybody out of noncongregate sheltering. they're in a hotel or in an airbnb or staying with family and friends. and we have a joint task force that's made up of the state and supported by the american red cross to talk through what these long-term solutions are going to be as people start to make decisions about what their next steps will be. >> it is so, so important what you and fema are doing. i want to get your thoughts on the president's trip to maui. you were there with him yesterday. you've defended the president's handling of this crisis. but should he have been out front speaking publicly from the very start? this is the deadliest fire the u.s. has faced, what, in a hundred years. >> this is definitely the dea deadliest fire we have faced. we get in these communities to better understand and assess the situation so i can provide the president with the most accurate information about what the impacts are. and that's exactly what we were able to do. i was here just a few days after the fire happened. i talked with the governor. i met with officials. i saw firsthand truly the devastation that this community happened to make sure that i had the right information for the president and then he made sure that he's directing the entire federal government to continue to bring all of our resources in to help this community during this phase, but more importantly, during the long-term recovery phase. very engaged in this -- >> i'm sorry for interrupting but i want to get your thoughts. you told our kasie hunt that fema's disaster relief fund could actually run out by mid-september. what actions are you taking, administrator, to ensure you have the funding you need for maui in the long term? >> yeah. we have been monitoring, wolf, our disaster relief fund very carefully. as we do our analysis and we make our reports to congress monthly, we take into account situations just like this so we can make sure that we always have enough funding to support life-saving activities. and that's exactly what we did, and we know that we have enough money to continue to support the ongoing life-saving efforts. what we may have to do is delay some of our recovery projects into the middle -- from the middle of september into next fiscal year. so we know we can always have enough money to continue these life-saving efforts that are still ongoing in maui, and any other potential ones that might come as we're starting to see a very active atlantic hurricane season. >> yes, so important. fema administrator deanne criswell, thank you so much for all you're doing. for more information about how you can help hawaii wildfire victims, go to cnn.com/impact, or text "hawaii" to 707070 to donate. we'll be right back. wiwith family and friends. and checking voicemail... as my activities permimit. i'll connect with you... after reconnecting with me. ♪ get 1.9% apr for 36 months plus $1,500 purchase allowance on a 2024 xt5 and xt6 when you finance through cadillac financial. ♪ when you find your reason to go on, let it pull you past the doubt. past the pain, and past your limits. no matter what, we go on. biofreeze the cost of homeownership has been a struggle. 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