- we are going to make our country great again. - giuliani sees one thing, opportunity. - trump is clearly the best choice. - he thought, this will put me back in the spotlight. - what i did for new york, donald trump will do for america! [cheers and applause] - oh, my god. i moved on her, actually. you know, she was down in palm beach. i moved on her, and i failed. i'll admit it. - whoa. - i did try and [bleep] her. she was married. - that's huge news there. - some breaking news right now. david fahrenthold of the washington post got his hands on a tape. - hello. how are you? hi. - hi, mr. trump. how are you? - nice seeing you. terrific. - pleasure to meet you. - when the access hollywood tape dropped, i was on air. donald trump and billy bush had something of a raunchy conversation. - and when you're a star, they let you do it. you can do anything. - whatever you want. - grab 'em by the [bleep]. - he's bragging about committing sexual assault. so i was just stunned, absolutely stunned. - there is a political storm that has erupted. - already a parade of republicans has either condemned trump's comments, withdrawn their support completely, or called on him to step down. - any truth that he's dropping out? - no. - kellyanne conway, reince priebus, others, were scheduled to be on the sunday shows. all of them canceled their appearances. and the one person who went on to defend him in wake of that was rudy giuliani. - joining me now is former new york city mayor and donald trump supporter, rudy giuliani. - rudy giuliani, top advisor to donald trump. - thank you. thanks for having me back. - that was a moment for rudy giuliani to really step up and show that was willing to be donald trump's number one defender, number one attack dog. - men at times, talk like that. - i don't know how much he was exaggerating. i don't know how much is true. he's a different man now than he was then. men say stupid things in locker rooms. we should move on. - rudy giuliani bet on trump when very few people were doing so. he stuck with trump after the access hollywood tape. shameful, but like, you know, you do this because you're expecting a reward. - i guess there are a few perfect people. but in my view, there's only been one. and that was jesus christ. ♪ ♪ - cnn can report that hillary clinton has called donald trump to concede the race. - i'm enormously excited for the country. i believe donald trump will be a truly great president. [dramatic music] this is probably one of the greatest victories for the people of america since andrew jackson. - the election of donald trump to the white house shocks the country from coast to coast. [all cheering] - i'm so proud to call him the president of the united states. - even people who are pulling for donald trump are amazed that he won. - whoo! - it felt like this incredible period of uncertainty. - who that is that? is that the mayor that showed up? rudy? - morning after the 2016 presidential election, if you're rudy giuliani, and donald trump had just been elected president of united states, you're feeling that there's tons of opportunity ahead. - what's your role expected to be? - i have no expectation. all i do is give my advice. donald's been my friend for 28 years. all of my work on behalf of him has been out of great loyalty and friendship to him. - whatever rudy wants, rudy gets, because he was the guy who stood by trump. - whatever he said, bill clinton did much worse. - his top pick is secretary of state. - so is this true? you want to be secretary of state? - [laughs] whatever i want to be, i'll discuss with the president-elect. - rudy has developed a network of contacts in countries across the world in the wake of 9/11 and his geopolitical rock star status where he's treated almost like an ex-president as he travels around the world. - i think he thought being secretary of state would be a good way to stay in the game. - you're not president. you're not vice president. secretary of state is the most prestigious job in the cabinet. and i think that he saw that as-- as an alternate to the presidential ambitions that were never going to be fulfilled. - john would be a very good choice. - is there anybody better? - maybe me. i don't know. - he gets a little too far out ahead of himself on this. and what was really happening behind the scenes was that there was actually some concerns about rudy and-- and whether he was up for the challenge here. - trump confidante, rudy giuliani, former new york mayor, may not actually now be a lock for the position of secretary of state. - there's one moment in trump tower where jason miller, one of the top communication advisors for trump, comes out of the bullpen of his team and says, we need someone to go in there and just lob questions at rudy to see what he says. everybody scatters. the aide who does get picked goes in behind closed doors and is horrified by what he hears, a question about when is the last time you've traveled to the middle east. that question comes with enough stammering that they have a follow-up meeting. the aide asks giuliani, you told me yesterday that you hadn't been to the middle east for a year. are you sure about that? are there any other trips you can remember? giuliani's face goes blank. turns out, his secretary had said rudy had just been in the middle east a month ago. - if you talk to people who were talking to trump at the time, they say he was never seriously considered for it, which is probably more revealing in and of itself of the dynamic of the relationship between the two of them. - the relationship between trump and rudy is really a fraught one. it's one where trump really values giuliani's defense of him. - he was the best mayor in the history of the city of new york. he's a great person who loves our country. - but shows his appreciation, shows his love for rudy with backhand and criticisms. - in donald trump eye's, there's part of giuliani's record. like, he ran for the presidency, and it totally went up in flames. so to donald trump, he's a loser. - there was a moment after trump had been elected, steve mnuchin his new treasury secretary is getting married in washington, and giuliani is very excitedly talking. and trump stops him. says, rudy, you're spitting all over. go stand over there. and rudy does. - rudy thought trump was going to appoint him secretary of state. and that didn't work. so he keeps around the margins in any way he can, trying to get back to the center of the action. - one has to really appreciate to understand the arc of rudy giuliani, how intoxicating fame and power are. for a politician to lose relevance is gutting. what happens to political and media figures when they fear irrelevance and go off the deep end to become relevant again. - i don't think he really got over losing the race for president. he misses the action. he wants to be a player. [dramatic music] - we've got some major news that we're still absorbing as we speak right now that broke overnight. a bombshell report from the new york times, claiming that the fbi launched an investigation into president trump to see if he was working for russia and against the united states. - most of trump's first two years in office are overshadowed by allegations of colluding with russia to try to tilt the 2016 election. and those eventually land in the lap of the special counsel robert mueller. - i said, you know, this russia thing with trump and russia is a made-up story. - president needs a fighter. he needs somebody who he thinks will push back against this investigation, against the press obsession with the investigation, with the same zeal that he would. and that is why he calls up his old friend rudy giuliani and says, i need you to fight for me here. 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and in this world, loyalty is 100% obedience, is 100%. and he just decided, well, this is the world i'm going to be in, and i'm just going to do this. - almost immediately, as giuliani joins the team in a formal way, he's doing a lot of press. - when you tell me that you know, he should testify because hehe's going to tell the truth and he shouldn't worry, well, that's so silly because it's somebody's version of the truth, not the truth. he didn't have a conversation about-- - the truth is truth. i don't mean to go, like, i-- - no! it isn't truth. truth isn't truth. the president of the united states says, i didn't. - truth isn't truth. mr. mayor, do you realize what, i mean. - there's a moment inside the white house where trump aides start criticizing what giuliani has said on air, and trump barks at them all and says, at least rudy's out there defending me. - when you do find out? - i'll tell you what. rudy knows it's a witch hunt. he started yesterday. he'll get his facts straight. he's a great guy. - in 2018, joe biden is clearly gearing up for a presidential run and is widely perceived as the front-runner. remember, in 2007, when joe biden was making his second run for the presidency and rudy giuliani was making his first, joe biden famously in a democratic debate just dismissed giuliani. - there's only three things he mentions in a sentence, a noun, and a verb, and 9/11. i mean, there's nothing else. there's nothing else. - giuliani never has gotten over that, ever. - rudy giuliani called former vice president joe biden a moron and mentally deficient idiot. - i believe that he always needs to define himself through anatomy. right? so, catholic school he was good and there were other kids who were bad. and then he's a prosecutor and he's gonna lock up the bad guys. and then he's mayor and he's gonna lock up the squeegee guys and jaywalkers, and now it's biden. - rudy starts kind of from what i can best say, fancying himself as like the new roger stone. opposition research is as old as the game of politics, but it's the lengths he went to. this is the former mayor of new york, this rah-rah pro-america kind of guy who was looking for dirty tricks to try to harm an american political opponent of his friend, donald trump. - giuliani's been doing business all around the world. and one of the places on the map where he started developing relationships is ukraine. and who was the obama administration point person for dealing with ukraine? it was joe biden. just think about how rich an opportunity that is for rudy giuliani, who wants to prove himself for donald trump. - giuliani had one aim and one aim only. and that was how to [bleep] up joe biden. - you can't make this stuff up. joe biden's son, hunter biden, was making money off of a company owned by a ukrainian oligarch. if giuliani could somehow find a connection between joe biden taking official action to help his son enrich himself in ukraine, he thinks that's going to be a golden moment for donald trump. - over the beginning of 2019, i start getting texts from rudy about ukraine, texts about how hunter biden was corrupt and ukraine, and people need to look into this. - at this point, giuliani has really left truth and facts to the side. he has fully joined the conspiratorial mentality of president trump and his administration, totally signed on to that. - rudy wants to build a case. so he goes to get evidence. now one of the problems is, is he falls into this murky world of russia and ukraine and all sorts of competing agendas. and he demonstrates very little discernment as to who is a reliable source and who isn't. the problem is, this wasn't some backroom deal in queens. this was about democracy in ukraine surviving. - as rudy is ramping up this campaign in ukraine to try and get these investigations, he starts feeling like he's running into this roadblock. and that is the us ambassador to ukraine, marie yovanovitch. - i heard very, very bad things about her for a long period of time. not good. - yovanovitch was recalled by president trump because rudy giuliani accused her of hampering efforts to dig up dirt on joe biden. - rudy giuliani was saying that she was the corrupt one, even though she was there pushing back on corrupt figures in ukraine. the taking down, the smearing and the attempt to destroy the career of a career foreign service official for this obscure political personal errand, it was the early warning signal, it was the shocking moment of clarity that should have been, but wasn't. - the idea that rudy is this powerful international wheeler dealer and that he was going to go over to ukraine and he was going to pull the strings of power, this whole thing was shambolic, it was crapulous, it was just, it was going to be exactly the [bleep] show it turned into from the beginning. it's ihop's 65th anniversary and kids eat free from 4-10pm. with the whole famil e only for a limited time at ihop. 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"we're not meddling in an election, we're meddling in an investigation." - there's nothing illegal about it. - what giuliani and trump want to happen here is an investigation into hunter biden. both of them view an investigation as politically advantageous. it doesn't really matter what the outcome is, as long as they can use that as a as a political cudgel against the son of joe biden, who at this point, is clearly the biggest threat to a second term for president trump. - he's running around representing himself as sort of an arm of the state department, a representative of the president. - giuliani and the people who are trying to help him started building relationships with the people they thought would be in power. - in the meantime, ukraine elects a new president. - volodymyr zelenskyy, an actor best known for playing the president of ukraine, was elected to lead that country. - i think at this time, president zelenskyy was a relatively unknown player on the world stage. he had won this election in ukraine, but he had this background as a popular comedian. - [non-english speech] - zelensky parlayed this role, in which a kind of naive, but well-intentioned schoolteacher, becomes the president of ukraine, into becoming the president of ukraine. this throws a wrench into the interests of rudy giuliani. - that election creates a whole new dynamic that giuliani then tries to navigate and game out. - this is in fragile new government. obviously, recent events show that there is an external danger to ukraine that they cannot ignore. the dangle from rudy is, we could offer you a public show of support to get a meaningful investigation of hunter biden. - rudolph giuliani was not a diplomat. rudolph giuliani was not an ambassador. rudolph giuliani was not the secretary of state. rudolph giuliani was a hired political gun working to advance donald trump's partisan electoral interests. - this scandal is a scandal of major proportions. now, was i-- - are you done now? - no, i'm not done now? - because you haven't said anything. - no. - you can't just talk the whole time. - mueller, that july, testifies in a very clearly lackluster performance to congress. - the finding indicates that the president was not, uh. - trump not only felt this sense of exoneration, he also had this sense of vengeance. - i think robert mueller did a horrible job both today and with respect to the investigation. - he did nothing wrong and he wasn't involved in collusion, and he wasn't involved in obstruction. - and it's in this mindset, where that morning, trump picks up the phone for a call with president zelensky. - the president says, "there's a lot of talk about biden's son, so if you can look into it, it sounds horrible to me." - trump spends the call asking zelensky very specifically to help him investigate hunter biden. - white house notes of that call show that when zelensky asked for a shipment of anti-tank missiles, trump countered with these words, "i would like you to do us a favor though." - what zelensky doesn't realize is, that inside the white house, trump has put a hold on several million dollars of aid to ukraine in anticipation of zelensky agreeing to these investigations. - many of those who are close to donald trump think that none of this would have happened without rudy giuliani. ukraine was giuliani's deal. these were his connections, these were his sources, this was his rogue foreign policy. - i don't know that i think the average american at that time understood why it was so important that we give the security assistance to the ukrainians. i think now in 2022 when russia is invading ukraine and slaughtering innocent ukrainian civilians, our longstanding ally, we understand why we had a role and an obligation to do that. - zelenskyy held firm. and it was a weird preview that this young guy who they thought was a trifle, they thought, oh, he's a punk, he's nobody, he's a comedian, you know, he just an accidental president, he's turned out to be a greater leader in a time of terrible, terrible crisis than either trump or rudy. - [non-english speech] - the curtain was lifted today on an anonymous whistleblower's explosive complaint against president trump, detailing his ask for political help from ukraine's president. - giuliani is mentioned in the whistleblower complaint more than 30 times. - pointing to that july phone call between president trump and ukraine's president. - that was a perfect call. an absolutely perfect call. you know it, they all know it. - i'm announcing the house of representatives moving forward with an official impeachment inquiry. - and everybody's attention started turning to one man, and that was rudy giuliani. - rudy's influence led to trump's impeachment over these ukraine issues. - again, this moment of everybody working to sort of contain the rudy influence and keep him away from the president and yet, the president keeps seeking him out. - rudy giuliani is not a guy who backs down. rudy is a guy who doubles down. - whenever giuliani was on the defensive when he was mayor, his response was to attack. - i don't remember him ever apologizing, saying, i shouldn't have said that or i overreacted. - and you see that throughout the impeachment process. - what you just said is totally wrong! it's not what-- - 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about 10 days before the 2020 election, this clip gets released of the borat movie. - you can give me your phone number and your address. - put down your phone! she's 15, she too old for you. - it's sort of another blow to rudy and to his credibility. - i had to take off the electronic equipment. and when the electronic equipment came off and i tucked my shirt in, i assure you that's all i was doing. i realize now that this is a setup. and then all of a sudden, crazy sacha baron cohen runs in with a cape on and he's yelling and screaming all kinds of stupid stuff. - i do recall thinking at some point as things went along, that this was not the person i knew. many of the things that he was doing were just baffling. - it's election night in america and a nation in crisis is at a crossroads. - rudy giuliani was one of donald trump's most trusted advisors on election night 2020. to get there, you had to be somebody that told donald trump what he wanted to hear, not telling him the truth. - the first exit polls just coming in tonight, president trump at the white house this evening. - rudy giuliani understood something on election night 2020, which many of donald trump's other advisors did not, which is that donald trump meant it when he said he wasn't going to accept the results of the election. - trump's second election night goes much differently than his first one. this one, for starters, is inside the white house. it's a who's who of trump world, and that guest list, of course, includes rudy giuliani. - for the early portion of the evening, some fairly prominent reporters were texting me saying, wow, it looks like he might do it again. - i can't wait to get the results in. - and if he doesn't win? - that's not even an option. - i think he's going to win by a lot. that's my interpretation. all: four more years! four more years! - i was in the east wing when the arizona call came. - fox news called arizona, and that angered all the people around the president. - and the mood changed fundamentally. - giuliani is furiously scrambling to figure out how to help the president. all of the people yelling suggestions, trump not knowing what to do until one moment when rudy giuliani pipes up and says, just say you won. - giuliani once said a pretty remarkable thing. he said, you could throw a fake. and what he means is, in politics, you can embellish, exaggerate, maybe just throw something out there that you don't have any real basis to believe is true. and that's what he did. - we were getting ready to win this election. frankly, we did win this election. [all cheering] we did win this election. - make no mistake about it, donald trump himself is delusional. rudolph giuliani helped to contribute to those delusions of grandeur that exists within donald trump's head about the election being stolen from him. - i think that he felt like the 1989 election was stolen from him, that the voting system was rigged. - a few of my advisors and other people that actually came to see us to urge me to contest the election. and they presented us with they regarded as evidence of voter tampering, voter fraud. - we see an early premonition of what we're going to see years later. - we're living through i believe, the worst voter fraud scandal in the history of our country. they steal elections in detroit. - representative, representative, you'll have an opportunity-- - and they steal elections in new york. - president trump has put his personal lawyer, rudy giuliani, in charge of his campaign's election lawsuits. - giuliani becomes a real central figure for trump as trump is beginning to devise any strategy to hold on to power. - giuliani, who's been on the road in four states, leading the president's election challenge. - his team has already filed lawsuits in michigan, georgia, and pennsylvania. - we are going to continue the lawsuit here. we're going to bring a second one, and then we're going to bring a federal lawsuit. - i don't think he believed that trump won the election. i don't think he believes that trump was a great president or a lousy one. i think this is immaterial to him. what's material, is that he's standing up there talking about donald trump before thousands of people. - giuliani, he's on television constantly, he's holding bizarre press conferences, like the never to be forgotten four seasons landscaping press conference. - trump tweets that there's going to be a press conference by his attorneys at the four seasons. - two minutes after that, he deleted the first tweet and started over, quote, "big press conference today in philadelphia at four seasons total landscaping." oh, that four seasons, of course. he means four seasons total landscaping, located just down the block from fantasy island adult books and video store, and across the street from the delaware valley cremation center. - it's so embarrassing, you couldn't even write it. - 700,000 votes that disappeared. - giuliani is insisting that they will continue to fight when a reporter interrupts him and tells him that the election had been called. - who was it called by? - all of them. - all of them! oh, my goodness! all the networks! wow! all the networks! - of course, it would end up like this, with rudy giuliani making an ass of himself while donald trump officially loses the presidency and is on the golf course. - this legal team, a.k.a. the clown car of incompetence, has now lost close to 50 cases in a month. - most of them, i mean, basically laughed out of court. - inside courtrooms, nearly every single attempt from trump, the trump campaign and his allies are rebuked by judges, who want to see some measure of proof that simply doesn't exist. - dismissals in michigan, georgia, nevada, arizona, and i'll tell you, it's rare to see courts throw out cases this quickly. - we're going to stick with this, we're going to win this election. we've actually won it. - and i believe biden and his crew tried to steal the votes. i believe it is totally fraud. - i'm just not believing that biden won in any way, shape or form. - everybody knows they stole it. - recount, recount, recount! - there's this drumbeat coming from trump, coming from rudy, coming from a lot of their supporters, of this election is fake, we need to stand up for voters and for the integrity of our elections and we need to stop this from happening. - stop the steal, stop the steal. 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[cheering] - they were so loud, that trump could hear them in the oval office that evening. [all cheering] trump opened the doors on this chilly january evening and started calling aides into his office. can you hear them outside, he'd ask. can you hear how excited they are? [cheering] - i woke up that morning and you know, there was a sense of real menace in washington, and there had been for a couple days. [all cheering] - there is a new republican party on the rise. we're coming for you, and we're going to have a good time doing it. - this is the greatest group of patriots ever put together. - what does giuliani do on january 6? - please welcome america's mayor, rudy. giuliani. - he takes the stage at the stop the steal rally on the ellipse. just south of the white house, you can see the white house in the distance, and he fires up this crowd. - this has been a year in which they have invaded our freedom of speech, our freedom of religion, our freedom to move, our freedom to live. i'll be darned if they're going to take away our free and fair vote! and we're going to fight to the very end to make sure that doesn't happen. over the next 10 days, we get to see the machines that are crooked, the ballots that are fraudulent, and if we're wrong, we will be made fools of. but if we're right, a lot of them will go to jail. [cheering] so let's have trial by combat! - rudy giuliani arguing that he wasn't literally advocating for insurrection when he spoke at a pro-trump rally in washington just before rioters stormed the capitol. - when i heard him say, trial by combat, that was decisive for me. he absolutely enabled an attack on our democracy and tried to overturn an election. and that's just a civic sin that's completely unforgivable. all: rudy, rudy, rudy. - when you see him being one of the speakers leading into january 6, look at the footage of the police riot when dave dinkins was mayor. that's who rudy was. he's just not able to finesse it like he used to. but that's rudy. - we're going to walk down to the capitol. [all shouting] (christina) with verizon business unlimited, i get 5g, truly unlimited data, and unlimited hotspot data. so, no matter what, i'm running this kitchen. (vo) make the switch. it's your business. it's your verizon. 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[all shouting] - trump and giuliani showed, as the whole trump presidency showed, that a small, smaller than you think minority, could wreak absolute havoc with the american system. [all shouting] - they're protecting her. - not if he wants in! all: we want trump, we want trump, we want trump, we want trump, we want trump. - for somebody who once championed the rule of law and tried his cases in court, for him to be the instrument of--of essentially undermining the system of law and having people lose faith in our democracy is a horrible way to end your career. because of the damage that you have already done to our system and even greater danger that may lie ahead. [all shouting] - hey, giuliani, [bleep] you! yeah, [bleep] you. - he's just fallen so far, and he keeps falling. so the only thing that kind of ties it all together is that people are still talking about him. whether he's going up or he's going down, he's in the conversation. and maybe that's what it's all about for him. now he once told a reporter, you know, whatever, whatever they say about me, i'll be dead one day, i don't care. and that may be true. but he's still alive and he still has to think about it. - my father would say to me, when you make a decision, the most important thing you've got to think about is, can you shave the next morning and look at yourself in the mirror and feel good about yourself. - i do not think that rudy giuliani understands that there has been a tremendous erosion of his reputation that he has caused at all. he looks in the mirror and he sees the hero of 9/11. - and those of us who are here have to defend freedom by going about our lives unafraid. - i saw him walking down the street about two weeks after they raided his house. i looked out the side of the car and i said, here's giuliani. i didn't even roll the window down. it would have been beyond even me to be able to predict he'd end up the way he's ended up. here's a man now who got there with divisiveness and polarizing, and by some luck, was able to resurrect himself to being the nation's mayor. got a second chance, and then he erodes it all. it is almost unthinkable. at the end of the day, rudy giuliani was not brought down by those of us that opposed him. he was not brought down by his critics. rudy giuliani was brought down by rudy giuliani. [somber piano music] ♪ ♪ - if rudy had left public life either after 9/11 or after 2008, when he dies in a few years, they would name high schools after him. they would rename laguardia airport after him. he would go down as a complex, weird, funny, strange, highly accomplished guy, who at two key inflection points in history, stood up and offered powerful leadership. that man's gone, unfortunately. it's tragic. [rousing musical sting] - we are at a historic conundrum the likes of which i never thought i would see... [crowd shouting] in my lifetime. - we still do not know the outcome of yesterday's vote. - sometimes it seems we share a continent