that trump is expected to surrender on thursday or friday. he and 18 codefendants are charged with plotting to subvert the 2020 election results in georgia. local officials have said they will treat the former president like any other defendant. sources tell cnn that trump's team has been in contact with the district attorney's office about the conditions and logistics for his surrender. cnn's ryan young has our report. >> reporter: we continue to try and get a sense of what's next as we continue to watch developments. that's after trump and 18 others were indicted on monday. from a security standpoint, we know there's been heightened watch and security outside the courthouse and the jail. in fact, you can no longer just drive up to the jail where the former president is expected to turn himself in. two deputies sit at the end of the driveway, limiting access. we've also learned the secret service has visited the fulton county jail to work with sheriff's department officials to get an valuation of the current security situation and determine what needs to be done to protect the former president. jail insiders believe the process for donald trump will clearly be shorter than what a normal person would go through in the process. as of right now, checking the jail website, none of the names of the people indicted have been included. obviously next week will be very busy. there's a belief from some law enforcement officials that the end of the week is when we could see former president trump show up at the jail to be booked in. >> ryan young, thank you so much. joining me to talk more about trump's surrender and indictment is brian kelley, a former federal prosecutor who tried james whitey bulger. let's talk first about this news that trump is expected to surrender thursday or friday in fulton county. the sheriff says he will be treated like any other defendant. he's the foreman pmer president to secret service detail. how do you think his booking will set a tone for the trial? >> well, thanks for having me. i don't think his booking will have any affect on the trial. the jury who decides this is not going to be shown or exposed to anything from the booking process. >> if we can reflect on what you've been accustomed to while prosecuting the case against mo mobster whitey bulger, you said he was trying to manipulate the system so he was never brought to trial for his role in the 19 murders and he was trying to slow down the trial. do you see there might be any similarities in this trump case or the approach his attorneys might have while facing these charges? >> i think in every case it's to the defendant's advantage to slow things down, because typically the evidence does not get better for the prosecution as time goes by. sometimes witnesses' memories lapse or sometimes witnesses are no longer interested in participating and have to be forced to participate. the more time the defense has, the more time they can find the weaknesses in the state or federal government's case. i think in any criminal case, the defense is probably going to be playing for a little bit more time than the government wants. >> at the time, bulger's attorney said the volume of evidence from prosecutors was so enormous and they needed more time to go through it. well, that sounds very familiar. is theis a common defense that gets any serious consideration from the judge? >> i think most fair-minded judges will listen to that, especially here. unlike the bulger trial, which was just one defendant, there's now 19 defendants in this case, which is frankly an extraordinary number. i don't see how the d.a. is going to get all 19 in the courtroom. it seems physically impossible. they'll have to split the case up. they'll have to what they call sever different groups into different trials. just logistically 19 people in one courtroom with one juror with all these different defense lawyers is impossible. so the state is going to have to at some point soon figure out how they want to proceed, who goes first and i'm sure everyone is going to be fighting to go last. if you don't go first, you can see the state's case, you can see how the witnesses perform, you can get to know the weaknesses of the other side. >> given that it would be a challenge to have all of the defendants in the courtroom at once, is it your feeling that the d.a.'s office is hoping some of those codefendants are going to want to plead so there would never be a case for all of them? >> yes, i think that's always the prosecutor's hope that the case gets simplified when numerous defendants plead guilty or reach a plea agreement with the state or federal government. that simplifies it. you'll notice that in the federal charges out of d.c., there's only four charges. here there's multiple charges, including a massive rico conspiracy charge, which is pretty complicated. i don't think they want 19 people. they'll probably all have at least two lawyers. they don't need all these lawyers throwing rocks at their case. it's a major headache. >> let's talk about what's at the core of this case, of the indictment. trump is facing 13 charges on this georgia indictment. perhaps the biggest threat he faces is the racketeering or rico charges. this was a law originally intended to fight organized crime and mobsters. you prosecute d several rico cases. tell us why it is being used in this case and why donald trump's legal team should be concerned. >> the federal rico statute was passed in 1970. about 30 states across the country have their own state rico charges. in georgia, the rico statute is a little bit broader. it permits more crimes to be considered as part of the racketeering activity. so it's concerning for any defendant, because it permits the state or the prosecution to introduce a lot of evidence that otherwise they would not be able to present, because the rico statute is so broad. it requires the state to prove there was a racketeering enterprise and all these people were trying to overturn the state election. they're going to have to prove there's a pattern of racketeering. it can't be unrelated crimes. it can't be a tax evasion and like -- >> the goal has to be the same. >> -- and smuggling or something. it has to be a pattern that's for a common goal. since they've charged a conspiracy, it makes it easier for the state to prove it, because all you have to show is that these people were agreed to this crime and they knew that somebody would commit two or more. they themselves do not have to commit two predicate crimes, but somebody in the conspiracy did. they have to knowingly agree this was the purpose. so the conspiracy charge is very broad. frankly, it's a little complicated the way they've drafted it. they've included what's called overt acts in addition to racketeering acts. the racketeering acts are of the alleged crimes. overt acts can be anything. they went and gave a speed, they went and had a meeting. so it has the risk of backfiring against the state, because if they made it so complicated and so many different overt acts, i think 160 have been thrown into the indictment, which to me seems unnecessary. they should have simplified it if they didn't want to risk the 12 jurors listening to all this evidence trying to decide who knew what when, who agreed to what, what does this overt act mean, is it racketeering, is it not. it can get very confusing. >> do you see this case staying in georgia or going the way of federal court, which is what mark meadows and his attorneys want? >> honestly, i haven't studied that issue very much. i think they're going to be hard pressed to get it out of the state court system. i'm not sure what would give them the right to transfer it to federal court. these are state crimes charged by a state grand jury by a state prosecutor regarding the state federal election. that's probably the hook they'll try to say. but we'll have to see what the courts say to that. >> brian kelley thank you so much. >> nice to see you as well. now to an urgent storm warning. the southwest bracing for what's being called catastrophic and life-threatening flooding as hurricane hilary barrels toward the region, right now churning in the specific as a category 3 storm with wind speeds of 125 miles an hour. it's expected to weaken as it moves north. forecasters warn it could dump a year's worth of rain across parts of california, nevada and arizona in a very short amount of time. allison chinchar joining us. the storm is so severe it triggered a first-ever tropical storm warning for california. >> that's right. f it's really all in anticipation of this storm continuing north-northwest at 16 miles an hour and pushing that moisture into the desert southwest. we're starting to see north american bands begin to fill back in with convection. you're starting to see more and more thunderstorms develop and even some of them spreading into the u.s. already. you have thunderstorms across portions of southern california, western arizona and beginning to spread into extreme southern nevada. more of this is going to fill in as we go through the afternoon and the evening and overnight hours tonight, because that storm is going to continue to push north into colder water. we anticipate it to push into california as a tropical storm. don't let you make that think we won't get as much rain. the rain forecast remains the same. the bulk of the heavy rain really sets in overnight tonight, continues all the way into the day sunday. most of it finally wraps up by the latter half of the day monday. you're talking a full 48-hour time period where we are looking at moderate to heavy rainfall. that includes death valley, palm desert, las vegas, los angeles and san diego, all part of that moderate risk. again, you're talking a year's worth of rain in less than a day for some of these areas, widespread totals of 2-4 inches. it's more than they get in an entire year, in some cases multiple years worth of rain in a 24-hour time period. there will be some spots that could pick up 6, 8, even 10 inches of rain in just a 48-hour time period with the bulk of that falling tonight going into the day on monday. another thing to continue too, there is a second system that is just behind hilary expected to push on a similar track. then we also have four other systems in the atlantic. it's getting to that time of year. we'll have more updates in the next hour. >> too much all at once, that's for sure. thanks so much. southern california faces an exceptionally rare threat with residents preparing now by filling sandbags ahead of that storm. officials are also warning of the risk of debris flow in burn areas of the san bernardino mountains. major sports teams are making some changes. the mlb has moved its sunday games hosted by the dodgers and angels and padres to be split double headers today. major league soccer rescheduled tomorrow's matches to later dates. natasha chen is live in los angeles. how are people preparing? >> reporter: this is a really unusual event for southern californians. they're asking a lot of questions of how actually should they prepare. some of their preparation that they're used to for winter storms, for earthquakes, for wildfires, how to evacuate, some of that does translate to this situation, but there is a lot that's unknown for them. this is the first ever tropical storm warning. you talk about these events changed and cancelled. we see death valley, joshua tree and mohave national parks closed trying to discourage people from going into those heavier rain zones. if you don't need to go out, officials say, please stay home. people need to be prepared, especially if their area is prone to flooding, if they've had mudslide and landslide problems in the past. officials are also concerned about catalina island off the coast that's likely to get hit. they have additional personnel and extra boats positioned there. the sheriff in l.a. county says this is about striking the right balance of preparedness. >> i don't want people to panic. we got to find that sweet spot between overreacting and being prepared. as has been stated over and over, look at that forecast, the trajectory of the storm can go one way or another. >> reporter: this storm seems to be heading this way to l.a. a little bit sooner. so people are definitely learning to track that radar here. it's not something they typically do in the middle of summer in los angeles. >> i waonder if there a contingency plan or a point in which evacuations would occur? 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the account had 130,000 followers. the top tweet viewed 27 million times. twitter took down the account a few weeks ago. it was a fake, but the photos were not. now cnn exclusively shares the real face that's on the notorious account. are you erica marsh. >> no. >> reporter: why are you talking to us? >> i want to tell the world that's not me. my name is not erica marsh. i am courtney. >> reporter: she lives in a rural part of the tampa bay area. she showed cnn her original photos nearly a decade old, she says stolen from her facebook page by whoever or whatever is behind this account named erica marsh. the photos on the account are from when courtney was still a teenager. she's since gotten married and had children. let me have you read erica marsh's most popular tweet that got over 27 million views and then tell me what you think. >> today's supreme court decision is a direct attack on black people. no black person will be able to succeed in a merit-based system. >> reporter: what do you think? 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