Good evening, everyone, i am abby phillip, and welcome to cnn primetime. There are doxxing threats against the grand jurors in georgia, and a death threat against a federal judge in the wake of Donald Trumps for four criminal indictments. Meanwhile, hes now proposed a date for one of the multiple trials that he faces. This one, jack smiths federal election subversion case. And that is april 2026. Yes, that is more than two and a half years away. And it comes as he is negotiating his surrender over in georgia on charges that he and 18 codefendants orchestrated a Criminal Enterprise to overturn joe bidens election victory. I will talk to one republican who says the rico charge in georgia is, quote, a nuclear bomb where a bullet would have been appropriate. And we have got much more on all of this to come and plus, imagine you are on a flight to cancun, and just 27 minutes into your trip, you see this outside of your window. Smoke and flames shooting out of the right engine and tonight, i will talk to two of the passengers who were on that flight. And a shocking mistrial in the case of a father and his son charged with the Attempted Murder and Chasing Of A Black Fedex driver, who is Making Deliveries in a mississippi neighborhood. I was in the Middle Of The Road holding a gun and my vehicle to stop, which i did not do. They essentially just chased me out of the city. And i filed a Police Report after that. Shots were fired into my van as well i feel its my responsibility to speak up because survivor speak up for for me and him as well. But i want to begin now with the threats to Fulton County officials and to grandeur in the wake of former President Trumps fourth indictment. Joining me now is former Trump White House lawyer jim schultz, and also cnn chief Law Enforcement analyst john miller. So, john, i want to start with you about this doxxing incident with the Fulton County grand jurors. Its not just on its own. It is part of what seems to be a pattern here. Its that there is also a texas woman shes being charged with threatening the federal judge in washington d. C. Handling that election interference case. And now we are also learning that the Fulton County officials that are working with the fbi on some of the threats that have been aimed at some of those grand jurors how dangerous, from a Law Enforcement perspective, is this climate that we are in right now . What you are seeing is people doxxed the grandeurs names and then put their addresses and pictures from social media there. You see people making threats on other chat rooms and message boards, generally. And i have a little experience in the Threat Assessment world from the nypd where, we investigated a lot of these. The dark sir doxxers what Fulton County and officials in the fbi are really on the alert for is not one of the people out front who is going to go do something. On the other hand, the prosecution of the woman from texas who threatened the judge she is being held without bail, going after the people who are pulling putting these threats out to grand jurorss allimportant, because youve got to set those examples that you cannot instill fear and panic and concern in peoples homes and family lives and not be accountable is there any way, jim schultz, that this does not start to affect these criminal cases . The four of them and all these different jurisdictions and the judges are potentially under threat. Perhaps the jurors are as well. How does this what impact does this all have . We hope that the Justice System just continues to roll along, right . And that the cases move along and that these things do not impact the cases from moving forward. Law enforcement is doing its job. The judges are doing their jobs, right . They are making sure that they are holding back some of the incendiary comments that the trump camp might be making as against prosecutors and witnesses and other folks. Its going to be incumbent upon the judge to really well, this is what i wonder. Do they have some responsibility here trump himself is criticizing and attacking judges and all of these things. Is there some responsibility there for them to tone their Rhetoric Down . Sure. I think it is important that you tone the Rhetoric Down, whenever you have people receiving threats or violence against their family. Any time you are trying to witnesses might be a little intimidated by that. Its incumbent upon the judge that they make sure that they hold the defendants in these cases accountable. Its interesting that the judge in washington, who is the subject of the threat, warned the former president about inflammatory language in one of the early hearings earlier hearings. We saw the same from the new york judge. I dont think that the former president has really responded to those clearly not. I want to ask you, though, john, about the surrender that we could be seeing next week. Sure. This is the environment we are in. If you are Law Enforcement, how are you responding . Firstly, theres layers of it. The Secret Service has to secure the former president. But they have now done that a few times. They have been through this drill in miami, in new york, and washington. That, they have got down. For georgia and Fulton County, it is going to be a little bit new, because they have not arraigned a former president they are before yet. So, that courthouse, you see that the barriers are placed around it. They have mutual aid packages with the atlanta pd and the other departments around to assist the Sheriffs Office in bringing whatever resources are going to be needed. But we dont know when that is going to take, because the sheriffs instruction is the former president of the United States is supposed to report to the jail for a booking process. And we dont even know when, really. Right. Jim, we talked in the intro about this filing from the court, the trump team, saying they want this trial in georgia to happen in april of 2026. How likely do you think that is . There is no way this georgia case is going to get done this year or, probably, next year. She filed against 18 defendants, 19 defendants. She filed a case that, i would say, in comparison to the jack smith cases, that is like a porsche. Built for speed, very streamlined, very concise. Its like an old 1957 chevy. Theres a lot of defendants in the case. There is a lot of legal issues that are going to come out of it. This law in georgia has not been tested in terms of the rico statutes. And in this context, i think you have already seen former Chief Of Staff and congressman mark meadows filing to removal to Federal Court. Well all the defendants be moved to Federal Court if the Court Approves that . Will some of them or some of these defendants want to be severed in the case . I think they probably are. These are all issues that are going to just continue to dog the prosecution. And it gives a lot of opportunity for the defense to delay the case. By the way, abby, the last time i saw a 22 defendant trial in a rico case was the Pizza Connection Narcotics Conspiracy in the Southern District of new york in the Federal Courthouse. The trial started in 1985. It ended in 1987. Wow. Yeah. Look, we are already seeing jeffrey clark, one of the defendants in this case, also asking for a different date, just to show you every single one of these defendants will have their own motions that they will be making petitions to the court for different things. Jim schultz and john miller, thank you both very much. Thanks, abby. Thank you. I want to bring in colorado republican Congressman Ken Buck into the conversation. Congressman buck, thank you for joining us tonight. As we were just discussing the Trump Legal Team they are pushing for that april 2026 start date for the federal subversion case. And trump clearly wants to push this well past the 2024 election where he is running. But do you think that that is warranted, given what he is being accused of . Do voters deserve an answer to the outcome of that case before the election . Oh, i think voters deserve that. But this prosecution could have been brought earlier also. I think that it is very unlikely that you are going to see these 18 defendants sitting in one courtroom all at the same time. So, you are going to have multiple trial dates. My guess is that some of these Removal Actions that, for example, mark meadows filed, are going to be granted. So, you are not even going to see all of the defendants in a state court. Some of them may remain in state court. But you are going to see multiple jurisdictions, and multiple trial dates. It is a mess. And frankly, using a rico statute and indicting 18 people, some of whom their crimes are really acts in furtherance of a crime, giving the President A Phone Number to call, or setting up a conversations that, the scope of this prosecution, i can see why they are asking for a date that thats i dont think it should start in april 2026. But it certainly we are going to see multiple actions in multiple jurisdictions. I wonder. And we are obviously into the 2024 cycle. And trump still has this massive 37 lead over his nearest competitor, ron desantis, in that latest fox poll. That is a tremendous hold over your party. At this point, do you think that there is anything that could break that hold that trump has . I think it is too early to make any kind of prediction. Obviously, President Trump starts with a huge advantage because he has been the president before. He has run in two National Campaigns before. Just based on Name Recognition and other advantages he has, he is going to be ahead. I think that, really, if we are talking about this in february of next year, then we have got a real discussion about, how does the Republican Party deal with a president who is facing four indictments . Or a former president who is facing four indictments, a candidate . And how does the party move forward from there . I think that the dynamics will change between now and then. When you think about what this georgia indictment in particular is alleging just a whole lot of Election Falsehoods trump himself even saying that he was going to hold a Press Conference on monday to further those lies now he is saying he wont do that. But do you wonder, or do you think, that, when you just think about that, do you ever wonder about just the Mental Fitness of a person who believes those lies even though he is told that they are not true . And whether that person should be the one who is, potentially, in the white house next . I will tell you, first of all, the discussion that you had earlier about this threats that are being made in other actions towards grand jurors, and people who are just doing their civic duty, and showing up and doing their job as americans, is despicable. And if you are innocent, start acting like it. I cant think of anything worse than trying to attack the criminal Justice System because you are a criminal defendant. And i think that is just terrible. Of any defendant to go through that process i think the Republican Party will survive this. I think that we have a strong message when it comes to running against joe bidens record. And i think that other candidates are going to be able to step up and, really, assume that mantle and have strong candidates. Vice president pence did the right thing on january 6th. He has shown himself to be a man of integrity. Governor desantis has done the right thing when he was helping florida get through this covid pandemic and crisis. I think there are a lot of candidates who have very strong backgrounds. And i think the American Public will see that. And Republican Voters will see that. Congressman, i hear you saying that you hope that other candidates will step up. I wonder, though, what do you think they have to do to actually make that happen . Because, as we pointed out, there is a 37 gap between trump and the next person on that list of candidates. That is a huge, huge void they are in the Republican Party. Absolutely, abby. And i think one of the things that is really a problem is that donald trump is getting all of the press as a result of these indictments and other actions out there. And so, its hard for anyones message to break through, and to have voters understand that what their qualifications are, what their positions are, and why they are a candidate who could lead the Republican Party in this election are they doing a good enough job of trying . I think everyone is trying. I think everyone is trying. And i think the media is doing their job, frankly. If you have an indictment of a former president , obviously, thats going to get the headlines. Someone saying that this is my position on taxation or whatever is going to be far, maybe, on page 16 of the local paper. But i think people are trying. And i think the dynamic will change. All right, Congressman Ken Buck, we appreciate you joining us tonight. Thank you. 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What would a debate without the frontrunner be like . Lets discuss all of this with cnns senior political commentator David Axelrod and cnn political commentator david urban. The davids are here. David urban, i will start with you. If you were advising trump, as you once have, would you tell him to come to that debate and show up . Or there is rumors that they are considering some counter programming. Which is the option that you would advise him on . Yeah, abby, i would advise him and i am sure David Axelrod would advise option b. When you are 39 points ahead, as he is in this most recent Quinnipiac Poll of Governor Desantis being the next closest person in the field, i think it would be foolish for him to show up at this point. And i think you will see some counter programming. Theres rumors that he is going to do some sort of event with Tucker Carlson on twitter, which would be quite a return, right . 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