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he's now proposing his own date that just happens to be three years away. plus the fbi involved the in a new investigation. the grand jurors who indicted the former president in georgia are being threatened and having their personal information exposed. and new warnings tonight for hawaii for victims of the wildfires, beware of scams. as if they weren't dealing with enough, this new warning after so many have lost everything already. i'm kaitlan collins and this is "the source." tonight. donald trump's delay tactics seem to have gone into overdrive. his new ask, for an extraordinary delay. they now want the judge to set a trial date for the special counsel's election interference case nearly three years from when he was indicted just a few weeks ago. they are looking for april 2026. that is nearly a year and a half after the 2024 election. it is obviously long past january 2024, which is when jack smith's team wants that trial to start. and papers that were filed just a few moments ago, trump's legal team is arguing that the government wants, in their view, deny the former president and his counsel a fair ability to prepare for the trial. the proposed timeline would conflict with the other civil and criminal cases he is fighting. while they note that his obligation to prepare for the case is not nullified because of the other legal issues he is facing, they believe the court should consider the effects the other prosecutions is going to have on this one. they're also noting there is a mountain of evidence for them to sort through, totaling 11.5 million pages. trump, of course, does have a mountain of indictments piling up. that is something that is apparently bewildering, even to him. >> look, i mean, this is not even possible. four over the last couple of months. you talk about an election, they want to put you in jail. also tonight, donald trump has just officially called off that news conference where he was going to really finally provide the proof, he says, that the 2020 election was stolen. i have been hearing from sources all day that that news conference he had announced after he was indicted in georgia earlier this week was in serious doubt because trump's attorneys warned him that talking about baseless frames of election fraud could hurt his case in upcoming trials. trump just confirmed and opposed on his social media site. but his attorneys would prefer to put it in legal filings to fight the indictment in georgia. so, therefore, that news conference won't be necessary. i'm joined by former federal prosecutor, elie honig. obviously april 2026 is a date that kind of surprised everyone, i think. they knew they were going to push for a delay. how do you think the judge is going to respond to that? >> kaitlan, when i first saw this date, 2026, i thought it was a typo. i said, they can't between 2026. i don't think the judge is going to take this seriously at all. i think the judge is going see the it as a wild overreach. that said, donald trump does, in his brief, make a compelling argument that doj's request we start four months from now in january, is also wildly unrealistic. trump points out there's 11 million documents here. he almost physically can't go through that in enough time. he also makes an interesting point that the average conspiracy case, run of the mill, takes about two years to get to trial. and in fact, some of the people that stormed the capitol, were given two or so years up until trial. so, he argues i'm being rushed, and i think the judge is going to have to find some workable middle ground here. >> jack smith has pushed for january 2024 and trump is asking for one april 2026. do they have a point when they're talking about the evidence here? because they're saying that that date is too soon. and one of the arguments is about all of the discovery evidence. as they break it down, they would need to read 99,762 pages of documents a day in order to finish with the prosecution's proposed date for jury selection, which is in mid-december. that's basically like reading "war and peace" 78 times per day until then. >> yeah. that's a good colorful example. this is a fair point. on the one hand -- there's a tension here. on the one hand, there's a need to try donald trump quickly. i think there's a public interest. and on the other hand, we can't forget he does have the sixth amendment right to fully prepare his defense. he doesn't need to read those 100,000 documents a day. he has to analyze them. he has the right to investigate and mount his own defense. i don't see any way he can get that done by january 2024, and i also don't see why we need to push this out until three years from now. >> we'll see what the judge decides, of course, maybe somewhere in the middle. thank you. >> thanks, kaitlan. all right. also tonight, one of the biggest mysteries that was embedded in that georgia indictment we saw earlier this week against not just donald trump but also 18 others is who are the other unnamed members of what prosecutors are calling, quote, the enterprise? in the words of the indictment, we are talking about unindicted coconspirators. we can now say for sure who many of those people are and how they connect to the former president. this comes at the same time that we are learning a special prosecutor is going to be named to investigate one of those unindicted coconspirators because a judge initially said they were off limits to the district attorney. the list of coconspirators reaches to the inner depths of donald trump's team. boris epstein is a key adviser to this day. he is coconspirator number two. he was so close to trump he was sitting just a few seats away from the former president when he was arraigned in manhattan. if you dig through this list, it runs the gamut from bernie kerik, rudy giuliani's lead investigators, a former surfer from hawaii. there are a number of republican officials on this list as well. the highest ranking one that you can see here is current lieutenant governor of georgia, burt jones. that is who a judge ruled that fani willis couldn't indict because she had held a fund-raiser for his political opponent. i'm joined now by two people who know the situation well. michael moore and geoff duncan, lieutenant governor before burt jones, and a key witness in this case. what do you make when you look at that board? this is your home state. you know a lot of those faces. >> it's not surprising really at all. and i think, you know, they're using this idea of unindicted coconspirators to tell a story and put some context on it. but it also lets a prosecutor reach a little deeper into the whole of the enterprise and pull the noose a little bit tighter around the group. and it's a valuable tool. it also helps keep cooperators and witnesses in line because they can recognize that if they do try to do something against the story, against what they've told maybe under oath at some point, that they could end up on the opposite side of -- with trump. so, it's a good tool, and i'm not surprised to see these folks in it. >> you think it could be potentially used to help flip other people? >> sure. >> we'll see what that looks like for these 30 other people. burt jones, he's the current lieutenant governor of the state of georgia. the only reason he couldn't be indicted here -- we don't know for sure he would have. the only reason he couldn't be was because fani willis held a fund-raiser for his opponent. what do you make of he's unindicted coconspirator number eight? >> not really surprising. his team filed the grievance to get him off the initial list. he was a state senator at the time and i was the lieutenant governor. it was an odd motion for him. he built this little coalition of a handful of senators. and sure enough, they were the mouth piece for donald trump inside the senate. and they were really the ring ed looers of trying to set up the meetings at the capitol and whatnot. and it certainly ended up being a fake elector. you know, it's just interesting. these guys just get infatuated, in my opinion, to be in the cool kids club. it was the draw of attention of president trump's eye. >> he was one of those who wanted you to call a special session of the legislature. >> there was a big effort for a special session. there was a big effort for meetings in official capacities. it was easy to spot but painful to watch them have to go through this process. i'm sure it's going to be an expensive one. >> it's not just for jones, though. there are other top republicans from georgia in this. shawn still is a sitting state senator. >> he's my senator that represents my house. >> how do you feel about that? he's one of the people charged here. brian kemp's office, the governor, has confirmed he did get that. and the question is whether or not he's going to be suspended because of this. >> it draws into question. i think he's got a whole stack of questions against him. i believe he was associated with the state party. a few years ago, this list of people who were coconspirators and indicted would be a who's who of republicans in georgia. there's 19 individuals, and 30 coconspirators. 40 other people other than donald trump are going to be fighting for their freedom. i can't imagine they're going to have respect for donald trump or worried about his future. >> what are republicans in georgia saying about that? >> you know, i think there are some that are trying to distance themselves. you've got some that are circling the wagons at the same time. geoff, you may feel different about that. but it strikes me you get people who are remaining close to the trump team and to the campaign. and then you've got others who may be running for a little bit of cover. >> what do you make of the fact that -- we're just talking about how trump is saying he's cancelling this major news conference. for those of us who covered trump for a long time, we never really thought this was going to be real news coverage. it shocked the people that worked for him basically. it has caused him saying it was going to be irrefutable proof of election fraud in georgia. brian kemp came out and said that's not the case, brad raffensperger, mike pence is coming out saying it. we're almost three years past the 2020 election. >> there's probably a more technical term for this, but the dumpster fire has started again. watch all this gyration going on, all this nonsense. i do think georgia republicans are ahead of the game. we've seen this play out in 3-d. we watched brian kemp go through it. he beat the brakes off brian purdue, beat stacy abrams. i think nationally speaking, there's something happening this week that feels different than the other cases. there's some sort of motion -- the seriousness of this, the weight of this -- every day that ends in y for the next two years, donald trump is going to have things to do in a courtroom. whether he's going to be flying around, campaigning. he's not going to win this election campaigning from a courthouse. it feels like republicans are starting to wake up to that. >> i do think this idea of relitigating is going to be a problem for the lawyers. at the same time, there's some merit to the thought that you do raise doubts during your case if you're defending trump about the election. and that's because this entire indictment is about somebody trying to basically commit election fraud or get somebody else to commit election fraud if they knew they had in fact lost. he just needs to get one juror to bite off that maybe there was something real here. maybe there was something he should look at. doesn't mean they've got to buy into the whole thing. i think you're going to hear about this as part of a natural defense. otherwise, what's his defense going to be? i mean, he could argue that he was the president. he could argue presidential immunity. he could argue all these things. but at some point they're going to have to come in and put this kind of argument out there to say, i wasn't totally off base. there may have been something -- well, i mean they'll just point to something somebody said. or maybe it's not illegal for him to listen to his lawyers. it's not illegal for him to have a strategy session with rudy giuliani or sidney powell. we can go down the list of people. being creative and sort of talking about things is not illegal. now, this may have gone far to the field, right? i mean -- yeah, to the crazy side. but he's got to be able to come in and say, i was listening to people who had information and i was listening to people who had talked about the voting machines. i was listening to people who told me what was happening in some of the rural counties in georgia with the votes. you're going to hear this relitigation as part of his defense. that's just the reality. >> i think it's interesting to watch this divide. some of these indicted are talking about that they believe it was still rigged and some are saying, well, i was listening to advice. and the other part is that, you know, everyone doesn't disagre that they did this stuff. it's on twitter, it's on the news, it's on video. they're just saying it wasn't illegal. >> that's right because they thought they were moving forward with something. >> we'll see what the jury decides. if and when that happens, it could be a long time from now. up next, the fbi has now gotten involved in the state of georgia after the grand jurors who voted to indict donald trump there earlier this week are now facing threats of violence. the people threatening them know their names and where to find them. plus the private debate strategy for ron desantis from some of his top supporters has gone public. and we've got the fallout and polls from it. we never j just see the numbers, we see the people. my dad started trek in a red barn in waterloo, wisconsin. and now it spans the globe. you wanna take what was given to you and you wanna buildt. and you wanna pass it along. if i can do that, i would have done well. that's why we're here... to help make it happen. i'm saving with liberty mutual, mom. they customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. you could save $700 dollars just by switching. ooooh, let me put a reminder on my phone. on the top of the pile! oh. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ struggling with the highs and lows of bipolar 1? 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>> well, i'm afraid it's the price we're going to have to get used to. this is something we must take extremely seriously, kaitlan, for two reasons. first, our surveys at the university of chicago for two years have been tracking support for political violence in the american public. and what we're seeing is -- with the indictments, what we're seeing is a surge of violent support for donald trump, up 50%. today, there are 18 million people who agree that the use of force is justified to restore donald trump to the presidency. there is a second reason, though, to be concerned. there have been multiple attacks and multiple armed threats against the, call them, enemies of trump just over the last year. literally a year ago this month, there was an assailant who attacked the fbi office in cincinnati out of retaliation for the fbi raid at mar-a-lago. and just before he died in the shootout, he posted on truth social that he wanted everybody to know that he's doing this for trump. the pelosi attacker last october, your audience knows about that. just six weeks ago, though, there was an assailant who came to obama's house in washington, d.c. armed. and fortunately that threat was diffused. and of course last week, there was another assailant who was making violent threats to president biden, threats he had been making in march. the police came, they talked to him, told him to stop it. he started again. the day biden was coming to utah. and he brandished a gun. and rather than stop making those threats. we need to see that the combination of the rising sentiments, violent sentiments, for trump that these indictments are triggering and the existing pattern we already have of lethal violence against the enemy of trump, this really means we must take the threats to the jurors very seriously in georgi geo georgia and be prepared that this won't be over for the jurors when the trial is over. >> clearly the fbi has been brought in. you referenced there was a woman in texas who was arrested and charged yesterday because she threatened to kill a judge over sitting on one of trump's cases. some people will say, what about the man -- justice brett kavanaugh's home. you referenced trump supporters and those who were driven and say the violence justifies the means. this is something trump said today about the charges against him. >> they want to silence you, and they mean silence. they are -- i think they're sick people. i think they are people that have no idea how the world works, and they have no idea the anger they cause. >> what impact do comments like that have on his supporters? >> this is inflammatory rhetoric. and this is exactly the kind of rhetoric that those actors i just mentioned were steeped in before their attacks. but just important to note, kaitlan, if violent rhetoric can encourage violence, calming rhetoric can discourage it. we have an opportunity next week for political leaders to set an example. on august 23rd, next wednesday, the republican primary debate is going to be covered nationally. every person on that stage should be asked to stand up and stand together against violent threats, whether they come from the right or the left, and specifically the threats we're now seeing surging against the jurors in georgia. and if they won't make that pledge to stand up to political violence, if it really is okay for trump supporters to essentially threaten to assassinate those jurors, they should be called into account. why is that okay? >> we'll see if they are indeed asked that and what they have to say about it. obviously it's not an issue that's going away. thank you for joining us with your expertise tonight. >> thank you. with that, let's focus on the law enforcement aspect of this. these are threats we have seen. danelle harvin is here. luckily he is the former washington, d.c. chief of homeland security and intelligence. when you look at this, what we've learned tonight, the fulton county sheriff investigating these threats against the grand jurors. how does law enforcement determine how serious those threats are, they go from being statements to something people may actually take action on? >> well, professor pape was spot on. and what we're seeing now is the normalization of violence in the political space. i'll tell you the use of violence is at the heart of the definition of domestic terrorism. and when you have nobody, be it trump or be it any elected officials, pulling these individuals back from the brink of extremism and violence, that's when you're going to have, i think, the long-term effects of what the radicalization and the inflammatory language. there's no one out there condemning this. there was no one out there on the republican side or any officials on the right saying that that individual who drove up from north carolina looking for obama after president trump put out former president obama's address, was wrong. so, law enforcement have to weigh all these threats, and they have to do so very carefully. because there's a first amendment. the first amendment allows people to be radicalized. i hate to say this. radicalization is not illegal in our country. but making threats of violence is. so, there are limits to the first amendment. there's going to be a lot of things you'll see on these websites. some of these things are a lot let me be direct... you're watching football wrong! what do you call a guy in face paint that can't get the game? 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>> i don't explain it. people continue to count president biden and vice president harris out and over and over again, president biden shows that he has the stamina, he has the where with all, the courage to fight through. we look forward to a biden-harris-trump rematch. i think that the american people will choose biden's record of delivering over the chaos, the bullying and all the thing during the trump years. >> one thing that we know will be brought up, it is brought up pretty regularly by 2024 republicans is his son. hunter biden. his legal troubles are far from over. we talked about those in detail with hunter biden's attorney last week on the show. when you looked at it in a political perspective, work for the campaign. have you all discussed how to handle that? how to rebut the attacks? >> we stand by the president and the first lady. they love their son dearly. they support him and his challenges he's faced. he's manned up to. and we won't comment on ongoing investigations but this campaign is not about president biden's family. this campaign is about the families that are watching us on tv right now, trying to keep a roof over their head. ed if on the table, clothes on their back. and that's why bidenommics is so important. we'll never made the campaign and the president has never made the campaign about him. ealways made it about the people and i think that's what separates him from president trump. president trump is all about himself. president biden is about delivering for people and trying to imimprove their lives which is why you don't see him focusing on taking away freedoms like republicans and what you're going to hear in milwaukee. he's about building up americans. and i think that is the biggest contrast. >> i understand that is what he wants to focus on. that's a top issue for a lot of americans. this is something republicans are inevitably going to bring up. what is the white house's plan? what is the campaign's plan to respond to the attacks when some voters say, well, hunter biden is being treated this way by the justice system. president trump is being treated this way by the justice system. do you have a plan to rebut that? or do you think the plan is to kind of ignore those attacks? >> well, we won't ignore anything. what we will point out though is that president biden on a campaign trail said that he wanted to restore the independence of the justice department, and since he's been president, he's done just that. in fact, he left the prosecutor there that was investigating hunter biden because that was, in his mind, the right thing to do. to restore the independent justice department. and then to remind people while republicans are talking about hunter biden, we're talking about the fact that your grandmother and mother will not have to pay more than $35 every month for insulin. you won't choose between medicine and rent. you won't choose between your house note and medicine. so they can focus wherever they want but we'll focus on the american people. >> thank you for your time tonight. we'll see what happens in milwaukee next week. we'll see what your response is. >> thank you for having me. speaking of that debate, there is a memo from a desantis super pac that may reveal his debate strategy, which is to defend donald trump and attack other candidates. was it part of the grand plan? 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and you're including the one on chris christie saying, trump isn't hear. just leave him alone. he's too weak to defend himself. i don't think we want to join forces with someone on the stage had a is auditioning for a show on msnbc. that's what they are telling him to say on chris christie. can he still use that next week? >> a sad no on that point. the sad thing is at left a from what i've read, virtually everything in the memo is stuff that everybody in the country that is a political person would suggest desantis do. highlighting your policies, two to three policies, that's basic debate prep 101. i think desantis now is having to configure the fact that his super pac is amateurish and they're making rookie mistakes in a time when you can't make the mistakes. hide this stuff on someplace that nobody else can find. certainly don't put together 700 pages of a memo and expect 5 days before a debate that a candidate will have a chance to digest it. it is amateurish and unfortunate, quite frankly. >> when you looked at the documents, there was not one focused on attacking donald trump. instead, it had what he should do when chris christie attacks donald trump. trump is basically making clear onlane that he is not going to show up to that debate. he's posting on truth social about it. what do you make of the tactic that desantis is saying he will take when it comes to trump? >> first off, it is the dumbest thing i've seen in a long time and i've seen a lot of dumb things. if governor desantis wants to defend donald trump, that is donald trump's job. he has plenty of defenders. i think he's put himself, his people have put him in a terrible, terrible box. everything he says in the debate, we're all going to say that was scripted. that was false. governor christie and vivek ramaswamy were mentioned in that memo. they need to send the desantis group a fruit basket. anything he says, they'll say that is fake. there's a great line groucho marx used to say the secret to life is authenticity. once you can fake that, everything else is easy. that's what they're telling him. fake like you're a normal person. he's just artificial and not very intelligence. >> i should note, that desantis campaign has put out a statement from his spokesperson andrew romeo saying, this is not from them. this wasn't sanctioned by them. this is an outside political group. part of the memo refers to what roger ales deemed the orchestra pit moment. someone who falls or does something kind of embarrassing or show-stopping will be more remembered than someone who articulates this comprehensive foreign policy vision. is that what they're worried about happening wednesday night? >> i think as paul can remember, who am i and what i am a doing here moment, i don't think we'll see something like that. the reality is that desantis is the only one that has high expectations. everybody else, there are no expectations that any of them will have to meet. unfortunately, desantis will have to meat those expectations and probably exceed them. and i know to your point, you just mentioned about what andrew that, yeah, the campaign is upset. this is a distraction that they did not need. and at some point, the other six candidates that are on the stage, or the six candidates that will be up on that stage, he can say why they're running for president instead of sitting there and defending trump or not attacking trump because otherwise, it's just six people up there talking about trump and how much trump, how great he was. >> and now he has to come up with a new nickname for vivek the fake. everyone will know it's from this. we have to leave it there. thank you both. >> thanks. we also have major news coming hear in this hour. a major resignation has just happened in maui. the official who decided not to sound the sirens as those flames were taking over lahaina. they are now stepping down. they say it is for health reasons. we've got more reasons after ththis. their team of independent tax attorneys will work with your cpa to determine if your company is eligible. 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>> i do not. the sirens as i mentioned earlier are used primarily for tsunamis. had we sounded the siren that night, we were afraid people would have gone mocha. if that was the case, they would have gone into the fire. >> the mayor of maui said he is going to be appointing someone else in that role as quickly as possible given how crucial it is at this time. meanwhile, as hawaiians are dealing with the unimaginable loss of what they are dealing with, the fbi is on high alert against criminals exploiting these disaster victims with scams. joining me tonight is maui resident ella. thank you for being here. knew haerg that the administrator is stepping down. his defense of not sounding the sirens. what do you make of that? >> i don't have words but i know that it should have been sounded. it could have saved lives. when everyone is aware that there was fire going on at that time. however, i do feel like, i do feel like the plr should have a big decision to make in regards to sounding the alarms and stthe sirens as well. it feels like a lot of people's hands were tied. they didn't know what to do with the situation. and i don't know what to safety i feel like that siren should have been sounded. according to maui sirens.com, part of that is wildfires. and of course, everyone will know that there's an emergency happening if that siren was sounded. >> you've been faaffected by th firsthand. it is quiet but you have 32 total people in your house right now. can you just, what is your day to day even like at the moment? >> right now, it still feels like, it still feels surreal that i can't imagine that this has happened. my house is full and my heart is full. the community is coming together, helping each other out and i'm just happy that we have each other. we're safe, unharmed and reunited. one of my cousins, after we finally see her in person, and she was, today we reunited with her. we've been getting a lot of help from the community and the community has been a big part of my family's survival. without them, we wouldn't be we wouldn't be where we are now in regard to sanity, as well as our survival mode. >> you mentioned the community. are you getting enough help from the government tonight? >> my parents received a check for $700, which was a slap in the face. $700 was given by the government, and i feel like it's not enough. living in hawaii, you spend groceries, you know, everything is so expensive. groceries can be as much as $700 just for one grocery run. and it's not enough. and right now, the maui community is helping the maui community. and i really, it's really affecting me because where's the president? he decides to come here this week to come here next week. i mean, where, aren't we americans, too? we're part of the united states. why are we getting put in the back pocket? why are we being ignored? i feel like deep down, they're being turned away because the applications haven't been approved or pending. and the only way they'll be able to get aid or help is if they sign up to fema. a lot of these families are elderly. they are computer illiterate. they don't know what to do. >> what do you think is important for the president -- what do you think is important for the president to see when he comes next week on monday? >> tell him to come to the memorial and see the people there laying out in cots, and see how he feels. the injured people laying out in cots at war memorial stadium. i'm so sorry. i didn't know that it would go this way. i was happy to talk about my family. everything that has been in my heart. i needed to say it because i've been struggling mentally when it comes to providing help. i want to be there for every single person that i see. >> no one can even fathom what you and your family have been through so you don't have to apologize. thank you for coming on tonight. i know you have a lot of people in your household. and we know the president will be there next week. thank you very much. abby picks up our coverage riright after this break. my heart failure diagnosis changed my priorities. i want time for the people i love. my heart doesn't pump enough blood... so mdoctor gave me farxiga. my heart doesn't pum ♪ farxiga ♪od... it helps my heart do its job better. farxiga helps keep me living life... and out of the hospital for heart failure. farxiga can cause serious side effects including dehydration, urinary tract or genital yeast infections in women and men and low blood sugar. ketoacidosis is a serious side effect that may lead to death. a rare life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur. stop taking farxiga and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of this bacterial infection, an allergic reaction, or ketoacidosis. more time with her? 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he's now proposing his own date that just happens to be three years away. plus the fbi involved the in a new investigation. the grand jurors who indicted the former president in georgia are being threatened and having their personal information exposed. and new warnings tonight for hawaii for victims of the wildfires, beware of scams. as if they weren't dealing with enough, this new warning after so many have lost everything already. i'm kaitlan collins and this is "the source." tonight. donald trump's delay tactics seem to have gone into overdrive. his new ask, for an extraordinary delay. they now want the judge to set a trial date for the special counsel's election interference case nearly three years from when he was indicted just a few weeks ago. they are looking for april 2026. that is nearly a year and a half after the 2024 election. it is obviously long past january 2024, which is when jack smith's team wants that trial to start. and papers that were filed just a few moments ago, trump's legal team is arguing that the government wants, in their view, deny the former president and his counsel a fair ability to prepare for the trial. the proposed timeline would conflict with the other civil and criminal cases he is fighting. while they note that his obligation to prepare for the case is not nullified because of the other legal issues he is facing, they believe the court should consider the effects the other prosecutions is going to have on this one. they're also noting there is a mountain of evidence for them to sort through, totaling 11.5 million pages. trump, of course, does have a mountain of indictments piling up. that is something that is apparently bewildering, even to him. >> look, i mean, this is not even possible. four over the last couple of months. you talk about an election, they want to put you in jail. also tonight, donald trump has just officially called off that news conference where he was going to really finally provide the proof, he says, that the 2020 election was stolen. i have been hearing from sources all day that that news conference he had announced after he was indicted in georgia earlier this week was in serious doubt because trump's attorneys warned him that talking about baseless frames of election fraud could hurt his case in upcoming trials. trump just confirmed and opposed on his social media site. but his attorneys would prefer to put it in legal filings to fight the indictment in georgia. so, therefore, that news conference won't be necessary. i'm joined by former federal prosecutor, elie honig. obviously april 2026 is a date that kind of surprised everyone, i think. they knew they were going to push for a delay. how do you think the judge is going to respond to that? >> kaitlan, when i first saw this date, 2026, i thought it was a typo. i said, they can't between 2026. i don't think the judge is going to take this seriously at all. i think the judge is going see the it as a wild overreach. that said, donald trump does, in his brief, make a compelling argument that doj's request we start four months from now in january, is also wildly unrealistic. trump points out there's 11 million documents here. he almost physically can't go through that in enough time. he also makes an interesting point that the average conspiracy case, run of the mill, takes about two years to get to trial. and in fact, some of the people that stormed the capitol, were given two or so years up until trial. so, he argues i'm being rushed, and i think the judge is going to have to find some workable middle ground here. >> jack smith has pushed for january 2024 and trump is asking for one april 2026. do they have a point when they're talking about the evidence here? because they're saying that that date is too soon. and one of the arguments is about all of the discovery evidence. as they break it down, they would need to read 99,762 pages of documents a day in order to finish with the prosecution's proposed date for jury selection, which is in mid-december. that's basically like reading "war and peace" 78 times per day until then. >> yeah. that's a good colorful example. this is a fair point. on the one hand -- there's a tension here. on the one hand, there's a need to try donald trump quickly. i think there's a public interest. and on the other hand, we can't forget he does have the sixth amendment right to fully prepare his defense. he doesn't need to read those 100,000 documents a day. he has to analyze them. he has the right to investigate and mount his own defense. i don't see any way he can get that done by january 2024, and i also don't see why we need to push this out until three years from now. >> we'll see what the judge decides, of course, maybe somewhere in the middle. thank you. >> thanks, kaitlan. all right. also tonight, one of the biggest mysteries that was embedded in that georgia indictment we saw earlier this week against not just donald trump but also 18 others is who are the other unnamed members of what prosecutors are calling, quote, the enterprise? in the words of the indictment, we are talking about unindicted coconspirators. we can now say for sure who many of those people are and how they connect to the former president. this comes at the same time that we are learning a special prosecutor is going to be named to investigate one of those unindicted coconspirators because a judge initially said they were off limits to the district attorney. the list of coconspirators reaches to the inner depths of donald trump's team. boris epstein is a key adviser to this day. he is coconspirator number two. he was so close to trump he was sitting just a few seats away from the former president when he was arraigned in manhattan. if you dig through this list, it runs the gamut from bernie kerik, rudy giuliani's lead investigators, a former surfer from hawaii. there are a number of republican officials on this list as well. the highest ranking one that you can see here is current lieutenant governor of georgia, burt jones. that is who a judge ruled that fani willis couldn't indict because she had held a fund-raiser for his political opponent. i'm joined now by two people who know the situation well. michael moore and geoff duncan, lieutenant governor before burt jones, and a key witness in this case. what do you make when you look at that board? this is your home state. you know a lot of those faces. >> it's not surprising really at all. and i think, you know, they're using this idea of unindicted coconspirators to tell a story and put some context on it. but it also lets a prosecutor reach a little deeper into the whole of the enterprise and pull the noose a little bit tighter around the group. and it's a valuable tool. it also helps keep cooperators and witnesses in line because they can recognize that if they do try to do something against the story, against what they've told maybe under oath at some point, that they could end up on the opposite side of -- with trump. so, it's a good tool, and i'm not surprised to see these folks in it. >> you think it could be potentially used to help flip other people? >> sure. >> we'll see what that looks like for these 30 other people. burt jones, he's the current lieutenant governor of the state of georgia. the only reason he couldn't be indicted here -- we don't know for sure he would have. the only reason he couldn't be was because fani willis held a fund-raiser for his opponent. what do you make of he's unindicted coconspirator number eight? >> not really surprising. his team filed the grievance to get him off the initial list. he was a state senator at the time and i was the lieutenant governor. it was an odd motion for him. he built this little coalition of a handful of senators. and sure enough, they were the mouth piece for donald trump inside the senate. and they were really the ring ed looers of trying to set up the meetings at the capitol and whatnot. and it certainly ended up being a fake elector. you know, it's just interesting. these guys just get infatuated, in my opinion, to be in the cool kids club. it was the draw of attention of president trump's eye. >> he was one of those who wanted you to call a special session of the legislature. >> there was a big effort for a special session. there was a big effort for meetings in official capacities. it was easy to spot but painful to watch them have to go through this process. i'm sure it's going to be an expensive one. >> it's not just for jones, though. there are other top republicans from georgia in this. shawn still is a sitting state senator. >> he's my senator that represents my house. >> how do you feel about that? he's one of the people charged here. brian kemp's office, the governor, has confirmed he did get that. and the question is whether or not he's going to be suspended because of this. >> it draws into question. i think he's got a whole stack of questions against him. i believe he was associated with the state party. a few years ago, this list of people who were coconspirators and indicted would be a who's who of republicans in georgia. there's 19 individuals, and 30 coconspirators. 40 other people other than donald trump are going to be fighting for their freedom. i can't imagine they're going to have respect for donald trump or worried about his future. >> what are republicans in georgia saying about that? >> you know, i think there are some that are trying to distance themselves. you've got some that are circling the wagons at the same time. geoff, you may feel different about that. but it strikes me you get people who are remaining close to the trump team and to the campaign. and then you've got others who may be running for a little bit of cover. >> what do you make of the fact that -- we're just talking about how trump is saying he's cancelling this major news conference. for those of us who covered trump for a long time, we never really thought this was going to be real news coverage. it shocked the people that worked for him basically. it has caused him saying it was going to be irrefutable proof of election fraud in georgia. brian kemp came out and said that's not the case, brad raffensperger, mike pence is coming out saying it. we're almost three years past the 2020 election. >> there's probably a more technical term for this, but the dumpster fire has started again. watch all this gyration going on, all this nonsense. i do think georgia republicans are ahead of the game. we've seen this play out in 3-d. we watched brian kemp go through it. he beat the brakes off brian purdue, beat stacy abrams. i think nationally speaking, there's something happening this week that feels different than the other cases. there's some sort of motion -- the seriousness of this, the weight of this -- every day that ends in y for the next two years, donald trump is going to have things to do in a courtroom. whether he's going to be flying around, campaigning. he's not going to win this election campaigning from a courthouse. it feels like republicans are starting to wake up to that. >> i do think this idea of relitigating is going to be a problem for the lawyers. at the same time, there's some merit to the thought that you do raise doubts during your case if you're defending trump about the election. and that's because this entire indictment is about somebody trying to basically commit election fraud or get somebody else to commit election fraud if they knew they had in fact lost. he just needs to get one juror to bite off that maybe there was something real here. maybe there was something he should look at. doesn't mean they've got to buy into the whole thing. i think you're going to hear about this as part of a natural defense. otherwise, what's his defense going to be? i mean, he could argue that he was the president. he could argue presidential immunity. he could argue all these things. but at some point they're going to have to come in and put this kind of argument out there to say, i wasn't totally off base. there may have been something -- well, i mean they'll just point to something somebody said. or maybe it's not illegal for him to listen to his lawyers. it's not illegal for him to have a strategy session with rudy giuliani or sidney powell. we can go down the list of people. being creative and sort of talking about things is not illegal. now, this may have gone far to the field, right? i mean -- yeah, to the crazy side. but he's got to be able to come in and say, i was listening to people who had information and i was listening to people who had talked about the voting machines. i was listening to people who told me what was happening in some of the rural counties in georgia with the votes. you're going to hear this relitigation as part of his defense. that's just the reality. >> i think it's interesting to watch this divide. some of these indicted are talking about that they believe it was still rigged and some are saying, well, i was listening to advice. and the other part is that, you know, everyone doesn't disagre that they did this stuff. it's on twitter, it's on the news, it's on video. they're just saying it wasn't illegal. >> that's right because they thought they were moving forward with something. >> we'll see what the jury decides. if and when that happens, it could be a long time from now. up next, the fbi has now gotten involved in the state of georgia after the grand jurors who voted to indict donald trump there earlier this week are now facing threats of violence. the people threatening them know their names and where to find them. plus the private debate strategy for ron desantis from some of his top supporters has gone public. and we've got the fallout and polls from it. we never j just see the numbers, we see the people. my dad started trek in a red barn in waterloo, wisconsin. and now it spans the globe. you wanna take what was given to you and you wanna buildt. and you wanna pass it along. if i can do that, i would have done well. that's why we're here... to help make it happen. i'm saving with liberty mutual, mom. they customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. you could save $700 dollars just by switching. ooooh, let me put a reminder on my phone. on the top of the pile! oh. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ struggling with the highs and lows of bipolar 1? 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>> well, i'm afraid it's the price we're going to have to get used to. this is something we must take extremely seriously, kaitlan, for two reasons. first, our surveys at the university of chicago for two years have been tracking support for political violence in the american public. and what we're seeing is -- with the indictments, what we're seeing is a surge of violent support for donald trump, up 50%. today, there are 18 million people who agree that the use of force is justified to restore donald trump to the presidency. there is a second reason, though, to be concerned. there have been multiple attacks and multiple armed threats against the, call them, enemies of trump just over the last year. literally a year ago this month, there was an assailant who attacked the fbi office in cincinnati out of retaliation for the fbi raid at mar-a-lago. and just before he died in the shootout, he posted on truth social that he wanted everybody to know that he's doing this for trump. the pelosi attacker last october, your audience knows about that. just six weeks ago, though, there was an assailant who came to obama's house in washington, d.c. armed. and fortunately that threat was diffused. and of course last week, there was another assailant who was making violent threats to president biden, threats he had been making in march. the police came, they talked to him, told him to stop it. he started again. the day biden was coming to utah. and he brandished a gun. and rather than stop making those threats. we need to see that the combination of the rising sentiments, violent sentiments, for trump that these indictments are triggering and the existing pattern we already have of lethal violence against the enemy of trump, this really means we must take the threats to the jurors very seriously in georgi geo georgia and be prepared that this won't be over for the jurors when the trial is over. >> clearly the fbi has been brought in. you referenced there was a woman in texas who was arrested and charged yesterday because she threatened to kill a judge over sitting on one of trump's cases. some people will say, what about the man -- justice brett kavanaugh's home. you referenced trump supporters and those who were driven and say the violence justifies the means. this is something trump said today about the charges against him. >> they want to silence you, and they mean silence. they are -- i think they're sick people. i think they are people that have no idea how the world works, and they have no idea the anger they cause. >> what impact do comments like that have on his supporters? >> this is inflammatory rhetoric. and this is exactly the kind of rhetoric that those actors i just mentioned were steeped in before their attacks. but just important to note, kaitlan, if violent rhetoric can encourage violence, calming rhetoric can discourage it. we have an opportunity next week for political leaders to set an example. on august 23rd, next wednesday, the republican primary debate is going to be covered nationally. every person on that stage should be asked to stand up and stand together against violent threats, whether they come from the right or the left, and specifically the threats we're now seeing surging against the jurors in georgia. and if they won't make that pledge to stand up to political violence, if it really is okay for trump supporters to essentially threaten to assassinate those jurors, they should be called into account. why is that okay? >> we'll see if they are indeed asked that and what they have to say about it. obviously it's not an issue that's going away. thank you for joining us with your expertise tonight. >> thank you. with that, let's focus on the law enforcement aspect of this. these are threats we have seen. danelle harvin is here. luckily he is the former washington, d.c. chief of homeland security and intelligence. when you look at this, what we've learned tonight, the fulton county sheriff investigating these threats against the grand jurors. how does law enforcement determine how serious those threats are, they go from being statements to something people may actually take action on? >> well, professor pape was spot on. and what we're seeing now is the normalization of violence in the political space. i'll tell you the use of violence is at the heart of the definition of domestic terrorism. and when you have nobody, be it trump or be it any elected officials, pulling these individuals back from the brink of extremism and violence, that's when you're going to have, i think, the long-term effects of what the radicalization and the inflammatory language. there's no one out there condemning this. there was no one out there on the republican side or any officials on the right saying that that individual who drove up from north carolina looking for obama after president trump put out former president obama's address, was wrong. so, law enforcement have to weigh all these threats, and they have to do so very carefully. because there's a first amendment. the first amendment allows people to be radicalized. i hate to say this. radicalization is not illegal in our country. but making threats of violence is. so, there are limits to the first amendment. there's going to be a lot of things you'll see on these websites. some of these things are a lot let me be direct... you're watching football wrong! what do you call a guy in face paint that can't get the game? 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>> i don't explain it. people continue to count president biden and vice president harris out and over and over again, president biden shows that he has the stamina, he has the where with all, the courage to fight through. we look forward to a biden-harris-trump rematch. i think that the american people will choose biden's record of delivering over the chaos, the bullying and all the thing during the trump years. >> one thing that we know will be brought up, it is brought up pretty regularly by 2024 republicans is his son. hunter biden. his legal troubles are far from over. we talked about those in detail with hunter biden's attorney last week on the show. when you looked at it in a political perspective, work for the campaign. have you all discussed how to handle that? how to rebut the attacks? >> we stand by the president and the first lady. they love their son dearly. they support him and his challenges he's faced. he's manned up to. and we won't comment on ongoing investigations but this campaign is not about president biden's family. this campaign is about the families that are watching us on tv right now, trying to keep a roof over their head. ed if on the table, clothes on their back. and that's why bidenommics is so important. we'll never made the campaign and the president has never made the campaign about him. ealways made it about the people and i think that's what separates him from president trump. president trump is all about himself. president biden is about delivering for people and trying to imimprove their lives which is why you don't see him focusing on taking away freedoms like republicans and what you're going to hear in milwaukee. he's about building up americans. and i think that is the biggest contrast. >> i understand that is what he wants to focus on. that's a top issue for a lot of americans. this is something republicans are inevitably going to bring up. what is the white house's plan? what is the campaign's plan to respond to the attacks when some voters say, well, hunter biden is being treated this way by the justice system. president trump is being treated this way by the justice system. do you have a plan to rebut that? or do you think the plan is to kind of ignore those attacks? >> well, we won't ignore anything. what we will point out though is that president biden on a campaign trail said that he wanted to restore the independence of the justice department, and since he's been president, he's done just that. in fact, he left the prosecutor there that was investigating hunter biden because that was, in his mind, the right thing to do. to restore the independent justice department. and then to remind people while republicans are talking about hunter biden, we're talking about the fact that your grandmother and mother will not have to pay more than $35 every month for insulin. you won't choose between medicine and rent. you won't choose between your house note and medicine. so they can focus wherever they want but we'll focus on the american people. >> thank you for your time tonight. we'll see what happens in milwaukee next week. we'll see what your response is. >> thank you for having me. speaking of that debate, there is a memo from a desantis super pac that may reveal his debate strategy, which is to defend donald trump and attack other candidates. was it part of the grand plan? 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and you're including the one on chris christie saying, trump isn't hear. just leave him alone. he's too weak to defend himself. i don't think we want to join forces with someone on the stage had a is auditioning for a show on msnbc. that's what they are telling him to say on chris christie. can he still use that next week? >> a sad no on that point. the sad thing is at left a from what i've read, virtually everything in the memo is stuff that everybody in the country that is a political person would suggest desantis do. highlighting your policies, two to three policies, that's basic debate prep 101. i think desantis now is having to configure the fact that his super pac is amateurish and they're making rookie mistakes in a time when you can't make the mistakes. hide this stuff on someplace that nobody else can find. certainly don't put together 700 pages of a memo and expect 5 days before a debate that a candidate will have a chance to digest it. it is amateurish and unfortunate, quite frankly. >> when you looked at the documents, there was not one focused on attacking donald trump. instead, it had what he should do when chris christie attacks donald trump. trump is basically making clear onlane that he is not going to show up to that debate. he's posting on truth social about it. what do you make of the tactic that desantis is saying he will take when it comes to trump? >> first off, it is the dumbest thing i've seen in a long time and i've seen a lot of dumb things. if governor desantis wants to defend donald trump, that is donald trump's job. he has plenty of defenders. i think he's put himself, his people have put him in a terrible, terrible box. everything he says in the debate, we're all going to say that was scripted. that was false. governor christie and vivek ramaswamy were mentioned in that memo. they need to send the desantis group a fruit basket. anything he says, they'll say that is fake. there's a great line groucho marx used to say the secret to life is authenticity. once you can fake that, everything else is easy. that's what they're telling him. fake like you're a normal person. he's just artificial and not very intelligence. >> i should note, that desantis campaign has put out a statement from his spokesperson andrew romeo saying, this is not from them. this wasn't sanctioned by them. this is an outside political group. part of the memo refers to what roger ales deemed the orchestra pit moment. someone who falls or does something kind of embarrassing or show-stopping will be more remembered than someone who articulates this comprehensive foreign policy vision. is that what they're worried about happening wednesday night? >> i think as paul can remember, who am i and what i am a doing here moment, i don't think we'll see something like that. the reality is that desantis is the only one that has high expectations. everybody else, there are no expectations that any of them will have to meet. unfortunately, desantis will have to meat those expectations and probably exceed them. and i know to your point, you just mentioned about what andrew that, yeah, the campaign is upset. this is a distraction that they did not need. and at some point, the other six candidates that are on the stage, or the six candidates that will be up on that stage, he can say why they're running for president instead of sitting there and defending trump or not attacking trump because otherwise, it's just six people up there talking about trump and how much trump, how great he was. >> and now he has to come up with a new nickname for vivek the fake. everyone will know it's from this. we have to leave it there. thank you both. >> thanks. we also have major news coming hear in this hour. a major resignation has just happened in maui. the official who decided not to sound the sirens as those flames were taking over lahaina. they are now stepping down. they say it is for health reasons. we've got more reasons after ththis. their team of independent tax attorneys will work with your cpa to determine if your company is eligible. 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>> i do not. the sirens as i mentioned earlier are used primarily for tsunamis. had we sounded the siren that night, we were afraid people would have gone mocha. if that was the case, they would have gone into the fire. >> the mayor of maui said he is going to be appointing someone else in that role as quickly as possible given how crucial it is at this time. meanwhile, as hawaiians are dealing with the unimaginable loss of what they are dealing with, the fbi is on high alert against criminals exploiting these disaster victims with scams. joining me tonight is maui resident ella. thank you for being here. knew haerg that the administrator is stepping down. his defense of not sounding the sirens. what do you make of that? >> i don't have words but i know that it should have been sounded. it could have saved lives. when everyone is aware that there was fire going on at that time. however, i do feel like, i do feel like the plr should have a big decision to make in regards to sounding the alarms and stthe sirens as well. it feels like a lot of people's hands were tied. they didn't know what to do with the situation. and i don't know what to safety i feel like that siren should have been sounded. according to maui sirens.com, part of that is wildfires. and of course, everyone will know that there's an emergency happening if that siren was sounded. >> you've been faaffected by th firsthand. it is quiet but you have 32 total people in your house right now. can you just, what is your day to day even like at the moment? >> right now, it still feels like, it still feels surreal that i can't imagine that this has happened. my house is full and my heart is full. the community is coming together, helping each other out and i'm just happy that we have each other. we're safe, unharmed and reunited. one of my cousins, after we finally see her in person, and she was, today we reunited with her. we've been getting a lot of help from the community and the community has been a big part of my family's survival. without them, we wouldn't be we wouldn't be where we are now in regard to sanity, as well as our survival mode. >> you mentioned the community. are you getting enough help from the government tonight? >> my parents received a check for $700, which was a slap in the face. $700 was given by the government, and i feel like it's not enough. living in hawaii, you spend groceries, you know, everything is so expensive. groceries can be as much as $700 just for one grocery run. and it's not enough. and right now, the maui community is helping the maui community. and i really, it's really affecting me because where's the president? 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