developing this morning, threats to judge and jurors. new questions about the safety of the people working on the cases against donald trump. the scope of destruction in hawaii heartbreaking. the death toll from the wildfires still climbing and more than 1,000 people are still unaccounted for. there are new questions as to how the fire started. we're live on the ground in maui. searching for front line fighters on facebook. wagner turning to social media to recruit new soldiers for the war in ukraine. i'm kate bolduan with sara sidner and john berman this is cnn "news centralcentral." developing right now. new chilling threats against a judge and jurors involved in cases against donald trump. this is what we know. police say a trump supporter in texas is in custody after she allegedly threatened to kill the judge presiding over the 2020 federal election case if trump does not get elected in 2024. in georgia, new concern for the grand jurors who just issued an indictment against trump. photographs, social media profiles even some of their purported home addresses published on sites, including forums linked to violent extremist attacks. experts tell us some you users are calling for violence against these grand jurors. i comes as trump and his accused co-conspirators have eight days to surrender at a jail in atlanta, which is where we find nick valencia right now. the threats are of serious concern? >> safety and security continues to be an issue for those connected to the legal process with trump's name attached to it. a texas woman is in custody after threatening to kill a judge overseaing trump's federal election case. the judge who is black received a call on august 5th with the call allegedly saying you are in our sights we want to kill i. the call also allegedly included some racist comments. it was august 8th when the department of homeland security caught up with the woman. she's in pretrial detention currently. in georgia, some far right are calling for violence against some of the grand jurors. photos, home addresses of some of the grand jurors reportedly connected found their way online. cnn cannot independently verify the posts and we're not naming the websites they appeared. none of the grand jurors have spoken publicly. as part of georgia law their names were made public as part of the indictment. meanwhile we're still waiting for the 19 defendants to show up. >> names were made public not their photos, not their addresses. and that is what could be circulating right now. nick valencia at the jail keep us posted. with us is the former deputy director of the fbi andrew mccabe. you distinguish between the threats to the federal judge in this case the texas woman threatening to kill her and the threats to the grand jurors in georgia, why? >> that's right, john. as awful as this and any threat may be, the sad fact is that federal judges and people in law enforcement are used to receiving aggressive, threatening communications from people. again, that doesn't make it right. but it is part of the important job that they do. they're also -- they also have access to the absolute best resources to protect them from this sort of activity. so federal judges receive protection routinely and certainly in instances they're receiving threats they have deep and consistent relationships with law enforcement. the folks i'm really worried about are those grand jurors, everyday, ordinary citizens who stepped up to you meet their civic duty by sitting on a grand jury, which is important to thing to do and they should not be subjected to this threatening activity. i understand it's the law in georgia their names are released but this is a different environment we're talking about now that they've been involved in a criminal prosecution targeting the former president. >> what does this portend for the next year when there could be four trials against donald trump and the jurors who will sit in those trials. >> you know, john, it's easy to see how this elevation of activity, legal activity, criminal prosecutions involving the former president will increase and kind of turn up the pressure on the former president's most extreme supporters. we're not talking about everyone who voted for trump in the last election but we also know there's a -- a vital and persistent strain of extremists who support the former president and who listen to his messages, listen to his direction, take it as some sort of signal to take action. we have seen this before, cesar sayoc put 16 ieds in the mail in support of president trump. we saw rickey shiffrin attack an fbi office with a nail gun. as the trials progress, more media coverage of them, the president's fate gets closer to being determined in any one of these cases you can understand how the most extreme supporters will see this, could see this as a moment to take action in his support. that's when we could see acts of violence. >> what do the people who you call the most extreme supporters some of the people associated with these websites, what do they see and hear when donald trump posts on his social media platform, things about the judge or says things outloud to that effect? >> so it's a great question, john, because it puts attention on these menacing but vague comments that the former president has a habit of putting out on his social media or saying in public. this is not theoretical we know from the testimony from many of the january 6th defendants, we know from the things that people who have been arrested in from the engaging in this activity have said, they hear statements like that and think of them as a signal to them to start taking action. this is similar to the comment in the presidential debate to the extremists, the president said stand back and stand by. we know from watching social media traffic many of his extreme supporters saw that as a message that he was calling their attention, telling them to stand by to take action. we know that the infamous tweet about the -- in advance of the january 6th riots was the thing that motivated so many of those january 6th defendants to come to d.c., come to d.c., it'll be wild, the president stated words to that effect. so they have listened closely to his comments and take it as a message or signal to take action. and that's when we see folks, you know, taking violence into their own hands. >> if you come after me, i will come after you, just one of the posts he made recently. andrew mccabe, great to see you. >> it should not be dangerous to do your civic duty, bottom line. we are less than a week away from the first 2024 republican presidential debate just as the front runner, donald trump may or may not appear on the debate stage but he's caught up in a myriad of issues as you know. donald trump is now facing 91 charges across four separate criminal cases along with two civil trials all of it making for a jam packed calendar of events. on the 2nd, the fraud case against trump and the trump organization is set to go to trial. january 2nd, they're looking to try the subversion case. and then on january 15th, a judge wants to start the trial in the second defamation case brought by e. jean carroll. march 25th is the scheduled start of the criminal trial here in new york. it's over trump's 2016 hush money scheme, according to prosecutors. and in may, either 20th or 27th. trump's federal criminal trial over the mar-a-lago documents is set to begin. all of these dates could, and will likely, change, case. kate? joining us right now the norm eisen, house counsel for the democrats in donald trump's first impeachment trial. sara lays out what the calendar could look like today or does look like today in this moment. if a calendar is stacking up like that with court dates like that, what does it mean? >> well, kate, thanks for having me back. it means that we're not going to get all of these proceedings in that very tight window. i do think there is time to try two, at least, of the major cases. of those, the first of the criminal ones is jack smith's, which is requested for january. my view is that the judge in d.c. because of the importance and the federal statute, the speedy trial act said the public interest must be taken into account. that case will be set. alvin brag has already said that in the interest of justice, he's willing to flex his calendar. that might mean he would make room for the jack smith case, might make room for the fawnny willis case. we have to be realistic about that case. it's good to have a case as large as the alleged conspiracy itself but with 19 defendants will we be able to get that to trial by march? we'll see. >> that's what i want to ask you about. also just being told in my ear that cnn has learned that donald trump is expected to surrender in the georgia case next week. the deadline is the end of next week to surrender but that gives some window into he's likely not surrendering to authorities today or tomorrow but on the georgia indictment, it has been dri described as a tight time line talking about 19 defendants and a racketeering case. what is your view on that? do you think the georgia trial there's a possibility it could start on the march 4th date as requested? >> there is a possibility. the realistic assessment, though, is you have three prior cases that have been stacked up on the criminal side alone, put aside the two major civil cases, the fraud case in in new york set for this year and the second defamation trial of e. jean carroll set for next year. you have three important cases, the mar-a-lago case, the alvin bragg, 2016 election interference case where the allegation is the former president falsified documents for hush money payments to avoid a 2016 scandal and, of course, the jack smith federal case. so my guess is it's good for the da to be aggressive. if it were the only case it probably could go in march. but i guess we'll see slippage there. the place we won't see slippage is the federal january 6th case, it's lean and mean, it names trump only, smith defined it to go fast and i think that's going to go. fawny willis probably wants it to go fast. >> trump has also promised a press conference and the way he's promised it, he's promising to layout evidence exonerating him of the claims brought against him, to show fraud occurred in georgia and an election. how much of a problem could trump create for himself with this press conference? >> a substantial problem. he's already been charged in the case for post january 6th 2021 activity. including letters where he pressed georgia officials later in 2021 with these false -- based on these false election claims. it could get him in trouble with additional charges, a super ceding indictment, it could violate conditions of his release of other protective orders that could be put in and these claims of fraud have been definitively rejected by court after court and most recently gop governor brian kemp said there's nothing to them. so trump is skating on thin ice but that is often where he finds himself. ahead, desperation in maui. more than 100 people confirmed dead and the death toll is still rising and more than 1,000 people are still missing. also, rudy giuliani, down at mar-a-lago and personally pleading with donald trump for help paying his massive legal bills because he seems to have run out of money. wait until you hear what went down. and an appeals court rules the abortion pill remain available for now but with some limits. the ruling setting the stage for another possible supreme court show down. ♪ ♪ ♪ voltaren. the joy of movement. ♪ at typical insurance, you're just another senior. that's the third health insurance commercial with seniors at a farmers market. right? 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"the washington journal" reporting that hawaii's main electric company waited to act despite knowing the threat the island faced because of wildfires. in 2019, hawaiian electric said it would conduct drone surveys to identify areas most vulnerable, and according to the journal it wasn't until 2022 that it sought state approval to raise rates but that has not yet been approved. the power utility is now facing a lawsuit saying the power lines were in part to blame for the spread of the fires. we need to make clear so far there is no official cause of these fires. ashley from our affiliate hawaiian news has more on the story. >> power line just went down. >> reporter: on lahaina luna road tuesday, shane documented what could have been the downed lines that sparked the fatal lahaina fire. >> oh, look at that. >> reporter: a little bit later, eddie garcia watched the impact of 80 mile an hour winds on wooden poles. >> i was on the phone on redial, redial, redial, to the electric company trying to get them to turn the electricity off. >> the videos will be important evidence in multiple lawsuits. >> it seems as the days goes on it looks more and more it looks like it was started by downed transformers or power lines. >> reporter: despite studies after previous fires that said a system should have been set up to be able to depower threats in lines, they did not. saying cutting off power could impact water systems in a fire and inconvenience customers who need power for necessities such as medical devices. >> the common sense approach would have been deenergize the lines, inform people as a precaution. if it starts it's a fire storm. >> reporter: kiko has not commented on the impact of the lawsuit but since filed monday, the stock in hawaiian electric industries fell nearly 60%. in california, a similar financial cascade under similar facts led that electric company into bankruptcy reorganization. >> they did a chapter 11 bankruptcy proceeding. there were other moneys involved in other state and federal involvement also. so i could foresee something like that. we have a cnn exclusive. a phone call between secretary of state antony blinken and paul whalen, the man wrongfully detained in russia. details about what they y said. there's a storyy in every piece of land. run with us onon a john deere gator™ xuv and start telling yours. 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an abrupt reversal in a case that has outraged defenders of the free press. the top prosecutor in marion county has withdrawn a search warrant on a newspaper after the police raid, computers, phones, and other items were taken from the marion county records office but will now be returned. the publisher of the paper has said he feels this is something that only happens in an authoritarian type of regime, not the united states. whitney wild is here with the details. what is the publisher saying now that this has all been reversed by a da? >> reporter: he's saying that he feels vindicated right now the status quo is law enforcement has returned the items seized last friday. the county attorney saying upon further information supplied for the search warrant does not appear a nexus between an alleged crime and the places searched. eric meyer said this all started when he got into a confrontation with a local restaurant owner. later he was looking into a story about that local restaurant owner. that story was never published until later when the restaurant owner, according to eric meyer, said publically that the newspaper had done something improper when they received information about that local restaurant owner. basically this all centers on a specific document that the restaurant owner believes had private information that was improperly obtained by the newspaper. here's what eric meyer, the publisher of that paper, had to say about the search warrant and specifically about how law enforcement approached the document at the center of all of this. >> the document that supposedly was stolen by us that actually was supplied by a source, was sitting on my desk, 6 feet from my computer, and they didn't take it in the -- in the raid. they left it sitting there. there's a lot of very strange things. they search a reporter's computer had r who had been sick all that week and hadn't been involved in it. they also took her cell phone, she wasn't in the office at that time. so a lot of strange things that hint of possible intimidation and attempted bullying. >> reporter: the marion county police department is the agency that sought the search warrant and executed the search warrant. the kansas bureau of investigation is taking over and here's what they said, we will work with the marion county record and their representative for the prompt return of their items. sara, it's important to note here, moving forward, that the proper process here would have been for law enforcement to serve a subpoena on the newspaper, work with their attorney to figure out what the parameters would be for supplying information. that is the proper process here and bernie rhodes, the newspaper's attorney said that's what he expects will happen moving forward. they do not believe at this point these items have been accessed by law enforcement. bernie rhodes added they have not been told they are totally cleared here. they have not been told they're no longer the subject of the investigation. the investigation continues and there are many more questions we'll seek to answer. >> the way this went down is antithesis to the first amendment. interesting to see how it pans out in the end. thank you so much. john? 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