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we learn charges against alec baldwin could be refiled based on a new forensic report of the deadly movie set shooting. following these major developing stories, all coming in to cnn news central. the clock is ticking, talks are happening behind the scenes. behind the donald trump surrender, by next friday as until august 25th, until then to turn himself in on racketeering and conspiracy charges. his lawyers are -- the district attorney team, the sprawling case as it's known accuses trump and 18 others of criminally plotting to alter george's 2020 electric result -- election results to overturn them, no defendants have yet been booked at the jail, cnn's nick valencia is outside of the courthouse where the grand jury voted this week, the turning and will not happen there. it will happen around the corner i suppose, tell us what we are learning about the details and how they are being worked out. score mac -- former president trump will be treated as everyone else, indicted which means being processed through the infamous fulton county jail where the former president along with his 18 co-defendants will be fingerprinted and given a mug shot and processed, you mentioned there are two sources familiar with those negotiations that they trump and his team are negotiating with fulton county district attorney office, early indications are that the number president will turn himself in sometime next week, here's what the jail is having to say about the defendants showing -- turning themselves in, all defendants will be booked at the fulton county jail. you can turn yourselves in at any time, the jail is open. they tell me that no one has turned themselves in yet, really quickly here, we know that trump's team is negotiating with fulton county d.a., they have to negotiate with secret service. >> former president turning himself in at the county jail, remarkable. join now by cnn's paul reed, a new strategy here, we have seen a lot of them through all the various trials underway, and court motions. this one to move, mark meadows, one of his co-defendants attempting to move this to federal court, why, and how would that go about? >> the strategy we saw coming, we very much expected that former president trump and some of his closest advisers would try to move criminal charges to the federal level, mark meadows argued this should be moved to federal court then they want to dismiss it, they are arguing that everything he was doing was done in his capacity as a white house chief of staff, there is a federal statute that seeks to protect federal officials from state prosecutions. it is unclear if you will be successful. or dismissed, he's not the only one that will try. he too is going to try to get his case removed to federal court, we expect former president trump will try this as well. it is possible, they could get their cases removed to federal court but not dismissed. that would mean this becomes a quasi-federal case because on the one hand, it would be federal court but the prosecutors, it could be sworn in as u.s. attorneys, still dealing with state law, one of the biggest advantages for the former president and his associates is they can get this moved to federal court, would be the jury pool, because fulton county is a heavily democratic jury pool. it includes a more diverse array of jurors, the big downside i would argue is that there are no cameras. the american people will not be able to see this process play out. >> that might drag the presses out as well, paula reid. thanks so much. trumps co-defendant said he will surrender next week, we are learning new information about the armor new york mayors financial problems. we have been covering the story, giuliani's attorneys say that he is facing hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal bills, outrageous sums of money. >> he has to fight this criminal case, he says he is anxious to fight the criminal case from the fulton county, prosecutors but that is essentially a side and apart from the major legal battle he's fighting right now. which is just keeping his head above water to respond to what he needs to respond to in these lawsuits around the 2020 election, he's being accused by multiple different parties as well as two georgia election workers that he defamed them when he made false statements about the election, about election fraud. those places are suing him, they will ultimately seek damages if they were to win which can be huge and enormous, the bills that can bankrupt a person very easily. just to respond to those lawsuits because those lawsuits are moving forward, he has bills to get access to his records so he can turn them over into subpoenas or to these plaintiffs, he's also getting court orders for sanctions because he is not able to pay those amounts. amounts of $50,000. in the case from ruby freeman, totally separate cases recently lost were a judge looked at his phone bill and said tens of thousands of dollars. 50,000, $57,000 has to pay a phone bill, he just got a court order last months. it's time to pay your phone bill. it just is mind boggling how expensive being opposite a court case like this let alone three major defamation cages -- cases can be, he has to figure that out, sell his co-op in new york. >> we have one judge expressing doubt as to how serious these are, we also have an update on the special counsel jack smith. in his efforts, his collective could be a vital piece of evidence. >> we now know that twitter has told a judge in open court that donald trump twitter account that everyone watch so closely for his public tweet, there are private messages and that account is well. dm's, direct messages. he was shut down after the january 6th attack, the justice department went to court to get a warrant to get access to all the data, he wanted a lot of things. some of the things they prioritize were messages between government officials and twitter itself, in the course of a series of sealed proceedings in federal court, as twitter was fighting with the special counsel's office over whether they could tell trump about this war and turning over his data, that's when this came up and twitter said yes, this would be direct messages, confidential communications, we don't know what that means or the special counsel investigation, what they found when they got the data from twitter, that is quite possible that we see the public tweet as part of the allegations against donald trump in federal court. what messages are being sent privately in writing, perhaps the former president himself on january 6th or after, we could see that in a trial. we just don't know what they found. >> deleted tweets. caitlin, thank you so much. >> breaking news right now. >> paula? >> just in, in a court filing, the fulton county district attorney has asked for a march 4th trial date, not only key dates in the 2024 presidential election, also falls very close to another schedule, falsified records trial that is already on the former presidents counsel, this is a rico prosecution with 19 defendants, taking a long time, the district attorneys as they want to try on 19 defendants together. it will now be a process for others to weigh in with their request for a possible trial date, just in, the district attorney, she's seeking to take the former president in 18 of his allies to trial on march 4th . it is unlikely that this date will be granted, this is a negotiation, that's a pretty aggressive timeline and also as we reported extensively, the calendar is crowded for president trump last year not only with obligation to the candidate of presidency, but also with all of these trials and court dates. >> a significant development, aiming for march 4th as the start date for the prosecution of not only former president trump but a number of other co- defendants, she is apparently still aiming on having all those co-defendants in the former president on trial at the same time right? >> our ceremony asked her about this, at her press conference. there is a world in which that is possible, it is almost impossible to comprehend having defense attorneys. she would hope these charges, i would encourage some people to cooperate. that was what you told us at our practice conference a few days ago, she said she wanted to seek a trial date in about six months which is what you are asking for here. >> we are talking about an array of motions to dismiss, and the potential for some of them to perhaps this is a rico investigation, the strength of a case is that for folks that are prominent, it's a lot of pressure, it could incentivize them cooperating. >> absolutely, the statute, the racketeering was designed to dismantle organized crime, of course for any crime, you do hope that at least one of those defendants will cooperate, strike some sort of deal, it is unusual -- unclear if that will happen, we expect many challenges. we were just talking about how mark meadows is trying to get this removed to federal court, we will try similar challenges. it is unclear, that seems an aggressive timeline for the case of this size or complexity. >> please standby, we have caitlin pull answer. thank you for standing by, breaking news happening as you were standing here. march 4th, that is a very aggressive timeline as paula described it. >> it is the timelines we are going to look at, we're looking at all of the timelines here. that would fall in the middle of the two other criminal trials on the calendar right now. the hush money case in the new york and the case related to the documents in florida. all of this said, there is also this other case. we have not heard with this trump team has to say about that, they will be telling the court, the january 6th -- sometimes, there are some things that overlap. that case, that one might be the one to watch on on how all of this is going to shake out in the calendar year of 2024. that's because donald trump is the sole defendant, he's before a judge who indicated she wants things to move aggressively. she's before a justice department that is arguing that one of the reasons to have things settled so quick. they should have a result of this, a case about an election before the next election. what happens with fani willis, there's a lot of different possibilities then -- not all 19 defendants will go to trial. with this, we need to watch to see what the federal case does related to january 6th and see how the rest of those cases falls in line if they hold the dates they are having. without a doubt it's a very busy year whether he's responding to these cases as a candidate. he's going to be on the campaign trail and we should deposit for a moment because paula reid, we want to get back to you. what's the latest? >> among the things that that is -- district attorney is having the arraignments for various defendants take place the week of september 5th. we know after she filed charges, she set a deadline of next friday. at the state level, that surrender will happen through the fulton county sheriff's office, mug shot, fingerprints, then a judge schedules a date for an additional appearance, here she is seeking to have those scheduled for the week of september, this is a request. this is what she is asking for from the judge as a timeline that she set out to be ready for trial in early march, it is unclear -- the defendants will have a chance to weigh in, that's what she's asking for right now because a lot of people have been asking, when might we see former president trump going to court to be arraigned or further initial appearance. it's going to take a while, the process at the state level is not exactly at the federal level with the past two indictments were he did his processing, his initial appearance and arraignment. all in one fell swoop, it's just a different process in georgia. she's asking the judge to keep -- september 5th. >> and arraignment on september 5th, backing up she wants him to surrender correct the week of. it's a very busy calendar not only because of all the legal chases that president trump is handling but what caitlin mentioned, he's campaigning for president and his legal team, most of their strategies rely on the idea, delay, trying to push this back, what counterargument are you anticipating about a march 4th start date? >> that's been the tension, not only in fulton county but also the special counsel's investigation. the special counsel, one of the things he said publicly is that he wants a speedy trial, he believes it's in the public interest as caitlin was noting, for these cases to be resolved, the 2024 presidential election, it is unclear if it's going to be possible to conduct two federal trials before the election. many arguments, the first one is that they believe if he is a candidate for the presidency, that he should not be put on trial, he should not face trial before the presidential election, they argue that would be unfair. in the mar-a-lago documents case, they have tried to delay, little delays here and there, that adds up. some of these are not just delay tactics, it's just due process in that case, they argued it takes time to go through the classified information, a lot of legal cases they are working on, they are given a reasonable amount of time to serve their client, we see those same arguments in fulton county. to these cases, they are going to also argue that they have a lot of cases right now. in the mar-a-lago documents case, they told her, look at all of those cases that we are working on, look at how small our team is, we cannot do this on a tight timeline. their strategy and goals to delay, they have a legitimate argument that that might be a really tight timeline. also, all of the other cases that are floating out there. one of the presidents going for the white house, his status as a candidate is a consideration, the judge, tonya made it clear. his status as a candidate does not impact that case for her and it will not impact any of her decisions. i think we can expect to see a lot of similar arguments. any of these times that she is requesting, as they come in the coming days. >> is a bit of the understatement for trump's legal team, paula reid with breaking news, aiming for and arraignment the week of september 5th, a trial start date of march 4th, 2024, thank you both so much. chips -- this just in, a major court ruling on the accessibility of the abortion pill, mifepristone. on the story, joan. as we watch this case, when we the first ruling came through, a number of weeks ago, you and i spoke about it in texas, that ruling considered an outlier, now you have an appeals court upholding part of that decision xe >> this is the most important case hitting the federal court since the supreme court back in june of 2022 struck down abortion rights by rolling back roe v wade. what was at issue here was as you said, a texas judge, matthew kaczmarek had suspended the food and drug approval of the abortion pill, mifepristone used by millions of american women since it was first approved by the fda in 2000, just now, the u.s. court of appeals for the fifth circuit reviewing judge kaczmarek's order has reversed a significant part of it. it reversed his suspension that dates all the way back to 2000, it did say that the judge was right in saying that some guidelines that i gone into effect in 2016 that had made the drug more accessible to women, those would have to be rolled back, the one thing i wanted to caution viewers about right now is that nothing changes because the u.s. supreme court itself had an earlier chapter of this new litigation over mifepristone had put on hold the lower coats ruling fully as the initiative -- ruling plays out. nothing would change, the important thing is that we now have an appellate court judge ruling that as you said, in some ways in hinges women's availability to the drug. now it will go to the supreme court. this has just come in, i do not have a chance to talk to them, a group of antiabortion physicians and medical groups, they brought the challenge. i anticipate that they would have tried to go all the way to the supreme court again, one of the things -- the importance of this case. ever since the supreme court reversed roe v wade, they have taken many steps to make it harder to get abortions, surgical abortions and many more women are using abortion medication, it had become a major way to end a pregnancy. >> it's a lot for folks, let's slow it down. as you say, nothing changes today. this will likely be an appeal to the supreme court which by the way just a year ago reversed roe v wade -- as i understand it in this case, this gets to some degree the fda's ability to approve and the extent of its ability. do i have it right, this ruling accepts that the fda can -- is that right, not just doctors but also other medical nationals. >> you're exactly right, it gets to the fda's authority to de mey drugs safe and affect the and also setting various regulations for access to that drug, whether telehealth can be used, when it can be prescribed, with the lower court said is that the original 2000 approval is not changing that, it is reversing, what judge kaczmarek, the lower court had said. the 2016 rules that had taken effect -- who can describe -- prescribe it. those according to this ruling right now today by the circuit, based in new orleans. those would be thrown into doubt. again, this is not the last word on this litigation. >> there's a bigger issue, it's not about agencies, more broadly which is a lightning rod of issues with the conservative groups, that relate to that as well. they have such a great powers on a host of decisions. >> we're not just talking about abortion medication, obviously that is so compelling at this moment, it's the va power to regulate a whole range of drunk this is drugs over diabetes. i would fall under fda authority. whether a federal judge. is able to 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let's bring cnn's senior data reporter, harry and 10 into here. this is a political landscape given everything that happened after the 2020 election for donald trump is different. >> i just want to give you an understanding of what's going on in the state of georgia, this is assuming the democrats from 2000 42,020 look at georgia, look at that swing towards democrats. the 17 point swing compare that what we see nationwide, just a seven points meeting. georgia is becoming far more democratic. these are the trump endorsed candidates won this often in 2022 primaries, it was 67% in georgia, compare that to nationwide where it was 95%. not only is georgia moving to the left, it is also far more trump skeptical through 2022 then the rest of the gop election for us. are we to believe these republicans are moving away from trump in a significant enough margin that it could affect them when it comes to primaries for example? >> what i'm very interested in is the trump voters, the republican voters who think trump has reported federal crimes. among college graduates, it is 27%. why is this an important split? i want you to get an understanding that the trump voters with the college degree. look at this, 35% of the trump voters in georgia had a college degree. that is a significant higher step than other states, if there's one place where they have an impact among the swing states, >> some fascinating data, harry, a pleasure as always my friend. >> we're joined by a new hampshire governor, chris sununu. thanks for taking the time this afternoon. >> you bet. a lot to run by you, just -- if you moments ago. the proposed large form trial date. in georgia, in alton county georgia, that is assumed by some measures, it's well into the political calendar when the lead candidate to come close to locking up the nomination by then, john bolton told me this last hour that he thinks conviction would be a deciding issue for republican voters than an indictment if the convention were to happen. are these trials moving too slowly? >> great, for the average american right now, they have these four indictments against a former president that is very serious. what the heck is going on? is a serious enough to move a little more aggressively, to have this, the first of these trials potentially in the primary. that will put gasoline on the flames of the drama of donald trump. that's what we need to do as republicans, we talk about the future of the party. every conversation we have is going to be that guy, that makes it very difficult for him to get some oxygen, to get some -- even now. only talking about trump, any time these kids go on tv, they are only asked about tron. it has to be incredibly frustrating for republicans who just want to win, it's really hard to see the path where all the media and detection is revolving around that. it does not look like it's going any other way anytime soon. >> you think there are too many candidates, republican candidates in the race right now. it affects splitting the non- trump voting among republican primary voters. is there any movement or discussion after the first debate, or maybe as you get closer to the primaries, candidates that are not making it get together and say we are out? is there genuine discussion of that. >> not amongst the candidates themselves, yes. i think there will be three or four candidates that don't make the first debate, they are gone. there will be voices that say as we get into it won't be then figuring out themselves, it will be republican voices across the country, we have to narrow it down to five or six candidates by three or four, that's where trump loses, there's a lot of pressure, not the powers that be but maybe some of the voices, the donor base, some influential folks that say hey, we have to narrow this down because republicans want to move america forward, they want to provide solutions, donald trump wants to protect donald trump, that is not a republic in value. most candidates get that, they give it their best shot for the next six months, the hard decision to sing we gave it our best shot, the responsible thing is to get out of the race. >> it's been 2 1/2 years since january 6th, the election that donald trump lost and he's been repeating the same lies. republicans like yourself who oppose trump as the nominee have said hopefully the party will move on or has to move on and focus on the future, we have to find a better candidate, a winning candidate. we have to find a candidate who is not facing four criminal trials, i wonder given that long timeline and that experience and all the evidence, the contrary. has it become wishful thinking that anyone but donald trump is the nominee for gop? >> no, it really hasn't. we have not even had a debate yet, a lot of these candidates and moving quite aggressively, tim scott, doug heard him -- doug burgum, tim scott -- introducing themselves to america. if they get on the debate stage, you will have that opportunity and show just not where they are in policy the where they are an inspiration and leadership, charisma, things people get excited about when they vote for somebody for president. we still have six months, a long six months to go and it will be a roller coaster. cute opportunity but again to your point. if we are saying donald trump's name 500 times and not getting any airtime or not taking advantage of potential airtime. that could be on them, when every story revolves around donald trump. don't be surprised he's leading in the polls, by such a huge amount because he's getting all the press and attention. he loves it, he knows it. that is his path in terms of not getting his navigation, getting into a position where he's pardoning himself, he mitigates his legal trouble. joe biden is not knocking out of the park the last time i checked, whether it's a health issue, hunter biden stuff, i think there is still a variety of different opportunities for the democrats to either move them along or he moves himself along by next year. long way to go and i'm still betting neither of these guys are ultimately on the ballot in 24. >> to your point, there has not been a primary it, we will watch and see how they turn out, governor sununu, always good to have you on. >> thank you. >> next on cnn news central. responding to allegations, a heartwarming story of adoption, the very one that inspired the film the blindside was just a huge lie. why new forensics report could prompt prosecutors to refile charges against alec baldwin for his role in the deadly "rust" movie set shooting. we will be right back. li (jack) we're standing up for our right to be lazy. 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we learn charges against alec baldwin could be refiled based on a new forensic report of the deadly movie set shooting. following these major developing stories, all coming in to cnn news central. the clock is ticking, talks are happening behind the scenes. behind the donald trump surrender, by next friday as until august 25th, until then to turn himself in on racketeering and conspiracy charges. his lawyers are -- the district attorney team, the sprawling case as it's known accuses trump and 18 others of criminally plotting to alter george's 2020 electric result -- election results to overturn them, no defendants have yet been booked at the jail, cnn's nick valencia is outside of the courthouse where the grand jury voted this week, the turning and will not happen there. it will happen around the corner i suppose, tell us what we are learning about the details and how they are being worked out. score mac -- former president trump will be treated as everyone else, indicted which means being processed through the infamous fulton county jail where the former president along with his 18 co-defendants will be fingerprinted and given a mug shot and processed, you mentioned there are two sources familiar with those negotiations that they trump and his team are negotiating with fulton county district attorney office, early indications are that the number president will turn himself in sometime next week, here's what the jail is having to say about the defendants showing -- turning themselves in, all defendants will be booked at the fulton county jail. you can turn yourselves in at any time, the jail is open. they tell me that no one has turned themselves in yet, really quickly here, we know that trump's team is negotiating with fulton county d.a., they have to negotiate with secret service. >> former president turning himself in at the county jail, remarkable. join now by cnn's paul reed, a new strategy here, we have seen a lot of them through all the various trials underway, and court motions. this one to move, mark meadows, one of his co-defendants attempting to move this to federal court, why, and how would that go about? >> the strategy we saw coming, we very much expected that former president trump and some of his closest advisers would try to move criminal charges to the federal level, mark meadows argued this should be moved to federal court then they want to dismiss it, they are arguing that everything he was doing was done in his capacity as a white house chief of staff, there is a federal statute that seeks to protect federal officials from state prosecutions. it is unclear if you will be successful. or dismissed, he's not the only one that will try. he too is going to try to get his case removed to federal court, we expect former president trump will try this as well. it is possible, they could get their cases removed to federal court but not dismissed. that would mean this becomes a quasi-federal case because on the one hand, it would be federal court but the prosecutors, it could be sworn in as u.s. attorneys, still dealing with state law, one of the biggest advantages for the former president and his associates is they can get this moved to federal court, would be the jury pool, because fulton county is a heavily democratic jury pool. it includes a more diverse array of jurors, the big downside i would argue is that there are no cameras. the american people will not be able to see this process play out. >> that might drag the presses out as well, paula reid. thanks so much. trumps co-defendant said he will surrender next week, we are learning new information about the armor new york mayors financial problems. we have been covering the story, giuliani's attorneys say that he is facing hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal bills, outrageous sums of money. >> he has to fight this criminal case, he says he is anxious to fight the criminal case from the fulton county, prosecutors but that is essentially a side and apart from the major legal battle he's fighting right now. which is just keeping his head above water to respond to what he needs to respond to in these lawsuits around the 2020 election, he's being accused by multiple different parties as well as two georgia election workers that he defamed them when he made false statements about the election, about election fraud. those places are suing him, they will ultimately seek damages if they were to win which can be huge and enormous, the bills that can bankrupt a person very easily. just to respond to those lawsuits because those lawsuits are moving forward, he has bills to get access to his records so he can turn them over into subpoenas or to these plaintiffs, he's also getting court orders for sanctions because he is not able to pay those amounts. amounts of $50,000. in the case from ruby freeman, totally separate cases recently lost were a judge looked at his phone bill and said tens of thousands of dollars. 50,000, $57,000 has to pay a phone bill, he just got a court order last months. it's time to pay your phone bill. it just is mind boggling how expensive being opposite a court case like this let alone three major defamation cages -- cases can be, he has to figure that out, sell his co-op in new york. >> we have one judge expressing doubt as to how serious these are, we also have an update on the special counsel jack smith. in his efforts, his collective could be a vital piece of evidence. >> we now know that twitter has told a judge in open court that donald trump twitter account that everyone watch so closely for his public tweet, there are private messages and that account is well. dm's, direct messages. he was shut down after the january 6th attack, the justice department went to court to get a warrant to get access to all the data, he wanted a lot of things. some of the things they prioritize were messages between government officials and twitter itself, in the course of a series of sealed proceedings in federal court, as twitter was fighting with the special counsel's office over whether they could tell trump about this war and turning over his data, that's when this came up and twitter said yes, this would be direct messages, confidential communications, we don't know what that means or the special counsel investigation, what they found when they got the data from twitter, that is quite possible that we see the public tweet as part of the allegations against donald trump in federal court. what messages are being sent privately in writing, perhaps the former president himself on january 6th or after, we could see that in a trial. we just don't know what they found. >> deleted tweets. caitlin, thank you so much. >> breaking news right now. >> paula? >> just in, in a court filing, the fulton county district attorney has asked for a march 4th trial date, not only key dates in the 2024 presidential election, also falls very close to another schedule, falsified records trial that is already on the former presidents counsel, this is a rico prosecution with 19 defendants, taking a long time, the district attorneys as they want to try on 19 defendants together. it will now be a process for others to weigh in with their request for a possible trial date, just in, the district attorney, she's seeking to take the former president in 18 of his allies to trial on march 4th . it is unlikely that this date will be granted, this is a negotiation, that's a pretty aggressive timeline and also as we reported extensively, the calendar is crowded for president trump last year not only with obligation to the candidate of presidency, but also with all of these trials and court dates. >> a significant development, aiming for march 4th as the start date for the prosecution of not only former president trump but a number of other co- defendants, she is apparently still aiming on having all those co-defendants in the former president on trial at the same time right? >> our ceremony asked her about this, at her press conference. there is a world in which that is possible, it is almost impossible to comprehend having defense attorneys. she would hope these charges, i would encourage some people to cooperate. that was what you told us at our practice conference a few days ago, she said she wanted to seek a trial date in about six months which is what you are asking for here. >> we are talking about an array of motions to dismiss, and the potential for some of them to perhaps this is a rico investigation, the strength of a case is that for folks that are prominent, it's a lot of pressure, it could incentivize them cooperating. >> absolutely, the statute, the racketeering was designed to dismantle organized crime, of course for any crime, you do hope that at least one of those defendants will cooperate, strike some sort of deal, it is unusual -- unclear if that will happen, we expect many challenges. we were just talking about how mark meadows is trying to get this removed to federal court, we will try similar challenges. it is unclear, that seems an aggressive timeline for the case of this size or complexity. >> please standby, we have caitlin pull answer. thank you for standing by, breaking news happening as you were standing here. march 4th, that is a very aggressive timeline as paula described it. >> it is the timelines we are going to look at, we're looking at all of the timelines here. that would fall in the middle of the two other criminal trials on the calendar right now. the hush money case in the new york and the case related to the documents in florida. all of this said, there is also this other case. we have not heard with this trump team has to say about that, they will be telling the court, the january 6th -- sometimes, there are some things that overlap. that case, that one might be the one to watch on on how all of this is going to shake out in the calendar year of 2024. that's because donald trump is the sole defendant, he's before a judge who indicated she wants things to move aggressively. she's before a justice department that is arguing that one of the reasons to have things settled so quick. they should have a result of this, a case about an election before the next election. what happens with fani willis, there's a lot of different possibilities then -- not all 19 defendants will go to trial. with this, we need to watch to see what the federal case does related to january 6th and see how the rest of those cases falls in line if they hold the dates they are having. without a doubt it's a very busy year whether he's responding to these cases as a candidate. he's going to be on the campaign trail and we should deposit for a moment because paula reid, we want to get back to you. what's the latest? >> among the things that that is -- district attorney is having the arraignments for various defendants take place the week of september 5th. we know after she filed charges, she set a deadline of next friday. at the state level, that surrender will happen through the fulton county sheriff's office, mug shot, fingerprints, then a judge schedules a date for an additional appearance, here she is seeking to have those scheduled for the week of september, this is a request. this is what she is asking for from the judge as a timeline that she set out to be ready for trial in early march, it is unclear -- the defendants will have a chance to weigh in, that's what she's asking for right now because a lot of people have been asking, when might we see former president trump going to court to be arraigned or further initial appearance. it's going to take a while, the process at the state level is not exactly at the federal level with the past two indictments were he did his processing, his initial appearance and arraignment. all in one fell swoop, it's just a different process in georgia. she's asking the judge to keep -- september 5th. >> and arraignment on september 5th, backing up she wants him to surrender correct the week of. it's a very busy calendar not only because of all the legal chases that president trump is handling but what caitlin mentioned, he's campaigning for president and his legal team, most of their strategies rely on the idea, delay, trying to push this back, what counterargument are you anticipating about a march 4th start date? >> that's been the tension, not only in fulton county but also the special counsel's investigation. the special counsel, one of the things he said publicly is that he wants a speedy trial, he believes it's in the public interest as caitlin was noting, for these cases to be resolved, the 2024 presidential election, it is unclear if it's going to be possible to conduct two federal trials before the election. many arguments, the first one is that they believe if he is a candidate for the presidency, that he should not be put on trial, he should not face trial before the presidential election, they argue that would be unfair. in the mar-a-lago documents case, they have tried to delay, little delays here and there, that adds up. some of these are not just delay tactics, it's just due process in that case, they argued it takes time to go through the classified information, a lot of legal cases they are working on, they are given a reasonable amount of time to serve their client, we see those same arguments in fulton county. to these cases, they are going to also argue that they have a lot of cases right now. in the mar-a-lago documents case, they told her, look at all of those cases that we are working on, look at how small our team is, we cannot do this on a tight timeline. their strategy and goals to delay, they have a legitimate argument that that might be a really tight timeline. also, all of the other cases that are floating out there. one of the presidents going for the white house, his status as a candidate is a consideration, the judge, tonya made it clear. his status as a candidate does not impact that case for her and it will not impact any of her decisions. i think we can expect to see a lot of similar arguments. any of these times that she is requesting, as they come in the coming days. >> is a bit of the understatement for trump's legal team, paula reid with breaking news, aiming for and arraignment the week of september 5th, a trial start date of march 4th, 2024, thank you both so much. chips -- this just in, a major court ruling on the accessibility of the abortion pill, mifepristone. on the story, joan. as we watch this case, when we the first ruling came through, a number of weeks ago, you and i spoke about it in texas, that ruling considered an outlier, now you have an appeals court upholding part of that decision xe >> this is the most important case hitting the federal court since the supreme court back in june of 2022 struck down abortion rights by rolling back roe v wade. what was at issue here was as you said, a texas judge, matthew kaczmarek had suspended the food and drug approval of the abortion pill, mifepristone used by millions of american women since it was first approved by the fda in 2000, just now, the u.s. court of appeals for the fifth circuit reviewing judge kaczmarek's order has reversed a significant part of it. it reversed his suspension that dates all the way back to 2000, it did say that the judge was right in saying that some guidelines that i gone into effect in 2016 that had made the drug more accessible to women, those would have to be rolled back, the one thing i wanted to caution viewers about right now is that nothing changes because the u.s. supreme court itself had an earlier chapter of this new litigation over mifepristone had put on hold the lower coats ruling fully as the initiative -- ruling plays out. nothing would change, the important thing is that we now have an appellate court judge ruling that as you said, in some ways in hinges women's availability to the drug. now it will go to the supreme court. this has just come in, i do not have a chance to talk to them, a group of antiabortion physicians and medical groups, they brought the challenge. i anticipate that they would have tried to go all the way to the supreme court again, one of the things -- the importance of this case. ever since the supreme court reversed roe v wade, they have taken many steps to make it harder to get abortions, surgical abortions and many more women are using abortion medication, it had become a major way to end a pregnancy. >> it's a lot for folks, let's slow it down. as you say, nothing changes today. this will likely be an appeal to the supreme court which by the way just a year ago reversed roe v wade -- as i understand it in this case, this gets to some degree the fda's ability to approve and the extent of its ability. do i have it right, this ruling accepts that the fda can -- is that right, not just doctors but also other medical nationals. >> you're exactly right, it gets to the fda's authority to de mey drugs safe and affect the and also setting various regulations for access to that drug, whether telehealth can be used, when it can be prescribed, with the lower court said is that the original 2000 approval is not changing that, it is reversing, what judge kaczmarek, the lower court had said. the 2016 rules that had taken effect -- who can describe -- prescribe it. those according to this ruling right now today by the circuit, based in new orleans. those would be thrown into doubt. again, this is not the last word on this litigation. >> there's a bigger issue, it's not about agencies, more broadly which is a lightning rod of issues with the conservative groups, that relate to that as well. they have such a great powers on a host of decisions. >> we're not just talking about abortion medication, obviously that is so compelling at this moment, it's the va power to regulate a whole range of drunk this is drugs over diabetes. i would fall under fda authority. whether a federal judge. is able to 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let's bring cnn's senior data reporter, harry and 10 into here. this is a political landscape given everything that happened after the 2020 election for donald trump is different. >> i just want to give you an understanding of what's going on in the state of georgia, this is assuming the democrats from 2000 42,020 look at georgia, look at that swing towards democrats. the 17 point swing compare that what we see nationwide, just a seven points meeting. georgia is becoming far more democratic. these are the trump endorsed candidates won this often in 2022 primaries, it was 67% in georgia, compare that to nationwide where it was 95%. not only is georgia moving to the left, it is also far more trump skeptical through 2022 then the rest of the gop election for us. are we to believe these republicans are moving away from trump in a significant enough margin that it could affect them when it comes to primaries for example? >> what i'm very interested in is the trump voters, the republican voters who think trump has reported federal crimes. among college graduates, it is 27%. why is this an important split? i want you to get an understanding that the trump voters with the college degree. look at this, 35% of the trump voters in georgia had a college degree. that is a significant higher step than other states, if there's one place where they have an impact among the swing states, >> some fascinating data, harry, a pleasure as always my friend. >> we're joined by a new hampshire governor, chris sununu. thanks for taking the time this afternoon. >> you bet. a lot to run by you, just -- if you moments ago. the proposed large form trial date. in georgia, in alton county georgia, that is assumed by some measures, it's well into the political calendar when the lead candidate to come close to locking up the nomination by then, john bolton told me this last hour that he thinks conviction would be a deciding issue for republican voters than an indictment if the convention were to happen. are these trials moving too slowly? >> great, for the average american right now, they have these four indictments against a former president that is very serious. what the heck is going on? is a serious enough to move a little more aggressively, to have this, the first of these trials potentially in the primary. that will put gasoline on the flames of the drama of donald trump. that's what we need to do as republicans, we talk about the future of the party. every conversation we have is going to be that guy, that makes it very difficult for him to get some oxygen, to get some -- even now. only talking about trump, any time these kids go on tv, they are only asked about tron. it has to be incredibly frustrating for republicans who just want to win, it's really hard to see the path where all the media and detection is revolving around that. it does not look like it's going any other way anytime soon. >> you think there are too many candidates, republican candidates in the race right now. it affects splitting the non- trump voting among republican primary voters. is there any movement or discussion after the first debate, or maybe as you get closer to the primaries, candidates that are not making it get together and say we are out? is there genuine discussion of that. >> not amongst the candidates themselves, yes. i think there will be three or four candidates that don't make the first debate, they are gone. there will be voices that say as we get into it won't be then figuring out themselves, it will be republican voices across the country, we have to narrow it down to five or six candidates by three or four, that's where trump loses, there's a lot of pressure, not the powers that be but maybe some of the voices, the donor base, some influential folks that say hey, we have to narrow this down because republicans want to move america forward, they want to provide solutions, donald trump wants to protect donald trump, that is not a republic in value. most candidates get that, they give it their best shot for the next six months, the hard decision to sing we gave it our best shot, the responsible thing is to get out of the race. >> it's been 2 1/2 years since january 6th, the election that donald trump lost and he's been repeating the same lies. republicans like yourself who oppose trump as the nominee have said hopefully the party will move on or has to move on and focus on the future, we have to find a better candidate, a winning candidate. we have to find a candidate who is not facing four criminal trials, i wonder given that long timeline and that experience and all the evidence, the contrary. has it become wishful thinking that anyone but donald trump is the nominee for gop? >> no, it really hasn't. we have not even had a debate yet, a lot of these candidates and moving quite aggressively, tim scott, doug heard him -- doug burgum, tim scott -- introducing themselves to america. if they get on the debate stage, you will have that opportunity and show just not where they are in policy the where they are an inspiration and leadership, charisma, things people get excited about when they vote for somebody for president. we still have six months, a long six months to go and it will be a roller coaster. cute opportunity but again to your point. if we are saying donald trump's name 500 times and not getting any airtime or not taking advantage of potential airtime. that could be on them, when every story revolves around donald trump. don't be surprised he's leading in the polls, by such a huge amount because he's getting all the press and attention. he loves it, he knows it. that is his path in terms of not getting his navigation, getting into a position where he's pardoning himself, he mitigates his legal trouble. joe biden is not knocking out of the park the last time i checked, whether it's a health issue, hunter biden stuff, i think there is still a variety of different opportunities for the democrats to either move them along or he moves himself along by next year. long way to go and i'm still betting neither of these guys are ultimately on the ballot in 24. >> to your point, there has not been a primary it, we will watch and see how they turn out, governor sununu, always good to have you on. >> thank you. >> next on cnn news central. responding to allegations, a heartwarming story of adoption, the very one that inspired the film the blindside was just a huge lie. why new forensics report could prompt prosecutors to refile charges against alec baldwin for his role in the deadly "rust" movie set shooting. we will be right back. li (jack) we're standing up for our right to be lazy. 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