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Trump indictment. Also this hour, the urgent search for the missing in the charred ruins of mauis wildfire catastrophe. The Hawaii Governor will join us live with an update on the Disaster Response as the death toll could surpass 100 at any moment. Cnn has Exclusive New Reporting on former republican legal officials siding with the Special Counsel Prosecuting Trump in the january 6th case. Ill ask a retired judge turned trump critic why he and others believe its critical for the former president to get a speedy trial. Welcome to our viewers here in the United States and the United States and around the world. Im woman bliwolf blitzer, you in the situation room. Lets go right to georgia to the grand jury who may be poised to indictment donald trump. Sarah murray is just outside the courthouse where grand jurors have been hearing new testimony today. What do we know about the proceedings this hour . Reporter well, wolf, it has been a very busy day here at the Fulton County courthouse. We know that the grand jury has heard from a number of witnesses Behind Closed Doors and testimony is still ongoing. Normally this courthouse closes at 5 p. M. But a judge is still in there on standby in the event the grand jury hands up indictments tonight. An atlanta area grand jury arriving today to hear the case on donald trump and his allys efforts to overturn the 2020 election in georgia. Weve been working for two and a half years. Were ready to go. District attorney fani willis expected to seek charges against more than a dozen individuals. Security ramped up as the former president faces down a likely fourth indictment. Is there any chance youll take a plea deal . He doesnt take a plea deal. Thats a wise guy question. Reporter Trump Lashing Out At Former Georgia Lieutenant Governor and cnn contributor jeff duncan, a republican set to testify before the grand jury today. Im going to answer the questions presented to me like i did in the special grand jury. To the best of my ability im going to answer the questions. Duncan declined to say whether he felt intimidated. There were a series of insults aimed at duncan. With this tampering, hes trying to send a message to duncan to withhold or whatever. Trump just doesnt seem to be able to help himself. Reporter this weeks Grand Jury Presentation The Culmination Of A Sprawling Two and a half year criminal investigation, covering trumps call to georgias Secretary Of State Brad Raffensperger. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state. Reporter to the fake electors to convened to cast illegitimate votes for trump and a Voting Systems breach in Coffey County and former state senator bea wynn about conspiracy ridden presentations trumps attorneys gave before State Lawmakers in december 2020. They had all of their witnesses that purportedly were telling the State Legislators that they could basically choose the electors and could throw out the votes of millions and millions of georgians. And i wascy sitting there, i thought this cant be real. And also at the courthouse, a leading voice in abutting trumps election lies in 2020. Theres no evidence of this conspiracy, no evidence of this kabal trying to switch the elections out. Reporter now, there were two of these witnesses slated to go in tomorrow. One of them was former Lieutenant Governor duncan. They were both summoned by the d. A. s office to show up today. George has been sharing on his social media updates of whats going on. Hes still waiting to go in to the grand jury. So, wolf, this is continuing as were waiting to see if we could potentially get some indictments tonight or if that could come down tomorrow. On the scene for us at atlanta, well get back to you as soon as we know for sure what is happening. Stand by over there. Right now i want to bring in our legal and political experts for some analysis. Laura, lets talk about the possibility that the Fulton County District Attorney fani willis will use called the rico statutes to go after the former president and maybe a dozen other defendants, potential defendants in this case. Tell our viewers what that means. So, rico is a fancy way of saying that two or more people got together and engaged in a pattern of behavior of criminal activity. Has to be normally in other jurisdictions other than georgia over a period of time. The Supreme Court in georgia said it doesnt need to have that continuity requirement. You still have to have a pattern of behavior engaging in criminal activity. This would revolve around the effort to have a false slate of electors, to try to get people to overturn the election, the conspiracy, not in terms of the criminal context but a fancy way of talking about, look, you got together, you had a plan to dupe people and you tried to go forward with this very notion. It is a term that can sometimes be a bit of Ale Challenge for prosecutors. You know what a homicide is, an assault it, what a Sexual Assault is, but having to explain to a jury what rico means its usually used against Organized Crime. Fani willis has experience in this area. She has had a successful venture in doing this very type of thing. I want to get elliotts thoughts. Normally, usual the Special Counsel, the federal Special Counsel has been focusing in, we presume, primarily on trump himself. But down in georgia, the District Attorney seems to have a much wider. Its his decision to charge somebody with a crime. The Special Counsel has identified sixth coconspirators. It is simply of question of whether to bring a larger case or smaller one. It remains to be seen who gets charged in georgia. It appears that multiple people will be brought in. Again, if a prosecutor think, number one, its in the interest of justice to bring charges against people or, number two, they actually have the evidence to go against them, then nothing preclude as prosecutor from bringing those charges. If some is a style choice or practical case, who knows whats in. If this is a case about fake electors, which is a plural, the question is how can you not bring a case against multiple people if there were people conspiring together to fraudulently fix the election. Youre touching on the very important point of the unindicted coconspirator. It comes up in prosecution all the time where someone committed the crime or they have evidence that they did but for whatever reason the prosecutor chooses unless you want to prove that donald trump was actively working with a group of people, again, im not a lawyer, but if donald trump was actually involved with this and leading it and helping them and trying to figure out how to do it, thats key. I think theres no doubt. I mean, to turn it to the other person. I nod at all of you and i do love you all. Im special. You are very special but trump might be very special in the eyes of pfani willis for th reason shes talking about. And the reason you see this, and we expect in addition to rico based on what you know that there will be possible election crimes. There are special election crimes in georgia and also general crimes like forgery and conspiracy and then rico. You use rico when you have overlapping conspiracies that may have different personnel. It provides an umbrella. It was invented in the law to deal with Organized Crime just for this kind of an alleged situation where you have three things. First you have this pressuring Georgia Election officials from the high and mighty, the governor, the Secretary Of State down to ordinary ballot counters. Ruby and shane. And then you have a second set of conspiracies around the fake electors and then you have this alleged intrusion on Voting Machines in Coffey County, which cnn has new evidence of that it reached all the way up into the oval office it looks like with trump involved. Why do you do rico . To bring together three conspiracies with different personnel. Some of them have never met each other but what do they have in common . The allegedly illegitimate goal. Keep georgias electoral votes for donald trump, even though he didnt win them. Georgia prosecutors are in possession, we are now told, of various Text Messages and emails directly connecting trumps legal team out there to Voting System breach in georgia and Coffey County specifically. Tell us what potentially this means. It means grand jurors have had this at their disposal to determine whether they should indict these people involved here. It might not be a surprise that trumps legal team was involved. You remember giuliani and the efforts in courtrooms to try to make a case, even though they had no evidence to do so and they were quite open with the court of law, not court of public opinion. But the Text Messages, theres Nothing Better than tangible, hard evidence to say this is not speculating or opining or trying to read the tea leaves. Here is what was communicated in being able to ask about each. Every person on that chain has been on actual notice and theyve got to prove it. Whats very interesting is this umbrella of conspiracies, think of the burden of proof for each of those Different Things theyve now got approved. Theyve got to show this tangled web of deception. They have to account for each and every aspect. Text messages can go a long way. What kind of timeline are we looking at for an eventual legal proceeding . Well, wolf, it will depend on the scope of the case. There are public indications that its going to be a large case. Theres plusses to rico, but theres minuses and one of the minuses is that it can take a long time. Now, the Young Thug Rico prosecution that fani willis is bringing now, gang related, Jury Selection alone in that case has taken more than half a year. So it could be a long timeline for this and then well have to consider once the dust settles if there are indictments we expect in the context of the jack smith case where the Special Counsel is seeking a january trial. The alvin bragg case for 2016 alleged Election Interference through hush money, a march trial. A may trial for the maralago documents case. How does that slot into that . One other point to lauras very good analysis, the smoking guns. Thats why cnns reporting on Coffey County is so important. We have the Smoking Gun Tape for that first conspiracy i talked about, the alleged pressuring of the officials january 2nd with Brad Raffensperger and trump talking and the smoking gun of the fake electoral certificate, allegedly, as phony as a 3 bill. Three smoking guns. Theres going to be a lot of news developing over the not just days but next few hours. Stick around. I also want to congratulate La Laura Coates who was named as the official anchor of laura coates live. When will you go live . As soon as i can go live . You have been such a great mentor and a friend. Thank you. Well go live to standby. Were going live to hawaii for an urgent update on the deadly maui wildfires and ill speak live with the states governor josh green. Lots of news unfolding rightht now, right here in the situation room. Tourists tourists that turn into scientists. So researchers can help life underwater floish. We never just see the numbers, we see the people. My dad Started Trek In A Red Barn in waterloo, wisconsin. And now it spans the globe. You wanna take what was given to you and you wanna build it. And you wanna pass it along. If i can do that, i would have done well. Thats why were here. To help make it happen. Being middle class right now, its tough making ends meet for sure. Republicans in congress say if we just cut taxes even more for the biggest corporations the money will eventually someday trickle trickle down to you. Right. Joe biden would rather just stop those corporations from charging so damn much. Capping the cost of drugs like insulin. 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So we can focus on this little guy. Singers safelite repair, safelite replace. Nearly a week after Deadly Wildfires broke out on maui, officials and survivors are in recovery mode right now. Theyre searching for missing victims, beginning to rebuild and trying to figure out what went so horribly wrong. On the ground in hawaii, whats the latest, gloria . Reporter first let me tell you where im standing. Were about 40 miles from lahaina, which was absolutely devastated by the wildfires. Here there are hotspots that are still burning. Take a look at this home behind me. All that is left standing is the chimney. I spoke to the owners of that house, they told me they are just in survival mode. Theyre doing okay, their tenants are doing okay but they lost what was supposed to be their retirement home. Right now theyre trying to clean up, gather the pieces and move forward. Im completely heart broken over this. Dwayne john, son who has strg ties to hawaii is echoing the sentiments of money. Hope is what we need and to be sensitive to those who have lost everything. Reporter but hope is a high bar for fire survives, especially those with missing loved ones, watching Recovery Teams Sift through the ashes. Every day going back to help clean up and help put spot fires out. It seems like a nightmare were still trying to wake up from. Reporter and rumors that the tragedy was becoming a spectacle. I hear there was a Snorkeling Boat going by here. Give them a break, people died here. Reporter there will be a review. The Attorney General has launched a review of what happened with the sirens and other actions taken. Reporter some survivors were sent texts to phones without service. Trees were falling and branches falling down on power lines. Reporter its a new lawsuit filed against Hawaiian Electric claiming the company failed to cut power as energized lines ignited fires. Wolf, people here tell me that they are taking matters into their own hands. Theyve been cleaning up. A woman here has been using a water hose to keep the ground wet because there are still hot spots in this area. And theyre frustrated. Theyre frustrated by the slow response from the government and that they cant get to lahaina, where they want to bring supplies and help out with the efforts there. The situation is very active here. The Power Company is up the hill, trying to get the power back on. But just in the last ten minutes, there is a woman who came down saying there is another fire burning just beyond the hill. The Fire Department just pulled up a couple of minutes. It just gives you a sense of how much the situation is still not only ongoing but people cant start to clean up and recover because the fires are still burning. A lot of frustration here, a lot of hurt but still somehow in all of that, positive attitude, positive spirit, the desire to help out neighbors and just come together in what really is an incredible amount of tragedy and great loss. A horrible situation indeed. Gloria, thank you very much. For more on this story im joined by the Hawaii Governor, josh green. Governor, thank you so much for joining us. Our hearts go out to all the folks in hawaii right now. Since we last spoke, this has become what were now told the deadliest u. S. Wildfire in more than a century. What is the updated death toll right now, governor . Well, thank you for including me, wolf. The updated number is 99 confirmed people have passed. The numbers will go up significantly in the coming days. We now have a fleet of individuals with fema who are doing search we call it Search And Rescue of course but its really searching to find those who weve lost and they have also a large number of canine assistants, dogs, to also aid in the effort. But its a tragedy beyond tragedies. We of course never expected to see this anywhere in america but we are burden by the circumstance of Climate Change and tragedy at the same time. Thats why this fire occurred for the most part. Were going to get to the bottom of it, though. Ill tell everyone ive personally authorized a comprehensive review so we have every answer going forward. We got to learn from mistakes made this time around. Governor, how much more do you expect that Death Toll Number to rise . It will go up very significantly. Were exploring all the numbers. Someone said we had still 1,300 people that hadnt checked in or hadnt been contacted. A lot of that may very well be there are some telecommunications gaps. A lot of people had to run and left all they had behind. They dont have their phones, the phones are incinerated. Over the next eight to ten days well know how many people. It went up 15 people in the last day. Over the course of the next ten days, this number could double. I dont want to really guess at a number because our people are working so hard right now. And my heart goes out to those who have said they cant get into the site. The reason for that is we have to respect the dead and we have already seen that if people go into ground zero too soon, our responders, our fema folks will not be able to do the job that they are there to do, which is to find out whether weve lost any of our loved ones. Were told, governor, that just 3 of the Disaster Zone have been searched by cadaver dogs saturday night. How much more ground do you believe needs to be covered, at least now . We have to cover all the ground. Just for a little clarification, you know, we were able to walk down front street and assess that mile. Thats a significant part of the Natural Disaster because thats where people fled to to a large degree. Thats where the first 80 individuals or so were confirmed deceased. Out in cars, out in the water, and so the 3 was just the initial because we only had three dogs in that first day. The dogs could only work for 15 minutes because the heat was intent intense. As reported, the heat was still there. There are still some embers burning from the 85 of the fires contained, although we dont have the catastrophic Wind Condition we have the night of the fire. So the fire has been controlled now. Theres no structure left whatsoever. Were told that power lines were reportedly not shut off, as you know, governor, when the fires broke out. Warning signs were not sounded and Fire Hydrants ran dry. Your Attorney General is currently reviewing the Emergency Response to this fire. When do you think the people will have more answers on these questions on what went wrong . So i authorized that comprehensive review with our Attorney General immediately, i think on the third day. Thats very unusual actually. A lot of times people wait months or even years before they look into some of these matters. The sirens were essentially immobilized, we believe. We believe by the extreme heat that came through. Now typically we use sirens here for hurricanes and tsunamis but were assessing how their review on the first of the month when we test these sirens went. Its going to be a little bit time. Ive also asked them to work with fema and nasa in their assessment. So we get a lot of data, not just for the people of hawaii but for the world because were concerned that the way things are now with global warming, with these kind of fire hurricanes that everyone could be vulnerable on some level when they have dry conditions. Thats where we are right now. Thats why its so important to learn the lessons from what happened out in hawaii. Governor, thank you so much for joining us. We want to do whatever we can to help and the people want to help. Our viewers can go to c cnn. Com impact and they will be able to help all the folks who have been so badly, badly hurt by what is going on right now in hawaii. Governor, thank you so much for joining us and lets continue this conversation. We really appreciate it. Thank you for your compassion. We appreciate it, too. Coming up, cnns Exclusive New Reporting, former republican legal officials taking a direct stand against Donald Trumps efforts to delay his trial in the january 6th federal case. Well talk to one of those officials, former judge and trump critics j. Michahael ludi. Hi, im sharon, and i lost 52 pounds on golo. On other diets, i could barely lose 1015 pounds. Thanks to golo, ive lost 27 of my body weight, and it was easy. soft music Pensive Music Footsteps Crunching Pensive Music Birds Tweeting Pensive Music Broom Sweeping [narrator] one in five Children Worldwide are faced with the reality of living without food. No family dinners, no special treats, no full bellies. All around the world, parents are struggling to feed their children. Toddlers are suffering from acute malnutrition, which stunts their growth. Kids are forced to drop out of school so they can help support their families. 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Thank you so much for joining us. The brief that you signed says in part, im quoting, nothing less is at stake than the american experiment in democracy and democratic government. Explain why you think delaying the start date could imperil our democracy. Thank you, wolf, for having me on tonight. My colleagues and i filed an amicus brief, the court that will try the president. The government has proposed a trial date of january 2024. It is expected that the president will urge the court instead to set a trial date in 2025, after the election, when the former president files his response to pleadings in the court. My colleagues and i, and former Republican Administration officials filed this brief today in effect on behalf of the American People and in support of the right of the American People to a speedy and expeditious trial of the former president on the grave offenses for which he has been charged. It would not be appropriate for either the government or the former president to make the argument to the court that the federal courts, wolf, have all recognized that there is a Public Interest in criminal trials. Of course all the more so is that the case with this trial, the first trial of an american president in our history for grave offenses committed against the United States of america on january 6, 2021. So we saw ourselves as making an argument that would not otherwise be made by either the government or the United States. Interestingly were required to ask or inform the two parties that we were going to file this brief. The government took no position on the filing of this brief while the former president , you know, objected to the filing of this brief. So the court will decide whether or not to accept our brief in its discretion, wolf. Let meech get your thoughts this, a january start date, january 2024 would give trumps team less than five months to go through documents. His Attorney Says forcing this trial prematurely could factor in to any posttrial appeals. For the trial to be scheduled in january, that would exceed the amount of time that is afforded the former president under the speedy trial act, for instance. Also, the facts are well known to the world, frankly, but certainly to the former president and his attorneys and they have been fleshed out now over two and a half years, in particular by the House Select Committee to investigate the attack on the United States capitol. Theres very, very Little Information thats not known to the former president. Indeed almost all of the information that is not known to the public is known to the former president and his attorneys. So im quite confident that were the trial to be held in january, that that would serve the president s constitutional and statutory right and interests in a speedy and expeditious trial. On the other hand, a delay to serve the former president s personal or political interests, to defend the sacred right of a speedy, expeditious trial that the president has under the constitution and laws of the United States, it would also frustrate the surpassing right of the American People in the expeditious trial of this historic case. You make a very, very compelling kate. Judge luttig, thank you very much for joining us and thanks to your colleagues as well for signing this document. Well stay in close touch with you. I want to bring in special correspondent jamie gangel. She broke the story of this new brief by these public legal officials. Also with us defense attorney shann with woo. For him to come out and take this kind of stand is very important. Look, we know that donald trump wants to delay this because hes hoping to be reelected president and that that would give him some cushion. Several justice sources have said to me thats his defense, you know, running. So i think that it will be interesting to see how the judge rules on whether she accepts this, but i think that just theyre making this public will have a tremendous wait. What do you think . I think the judge puts his finger on it when he says they have a unique perspective. The prosecution would be cautious about making this argument in the Public Interest because they want to make sure they arent saying anything that can be construed to prejudice trumps right to get ready. For the judge, its a balancing question. She has to distinguished as she puts it, his day job as president versus the real legal issue of how much time do they need to prepare . And judge luttig makes a very strong point. Just ahead a police raid on a small kansas newspaper is prompting outrage and raising serious concerns about freedom of the press. Cnn has s new video of the raid and new information from the Search Warrant. Nds. Anand checking voicemail. As my activities permit. Ill connect with you. 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Reporter a Search Warrant obtained by cnn alleges they are looking into Identity Theft and unlawful facts and searched for items such as computers and documents pertaining to a yom named carrie newell, a woman asked to leave a political event earlier this month. Newell said the paper accomplished improper information about her. She said police initially approached her. News of the raid surprised her, she said, but she doesnt believe its retaliatory. When have you ever heard of an individual being able to storm into an office and have enough of a fit to get a Police Department go raid and seize and establishment because somebody got their feelings hurt. The chief said i believe when the rest of the story is available to the public, the judicial system being questioned will be vindicated. This is nazi, gestapo, Vladimir Putin tactics that people are using. Why do we allow these people to do this sort of thing . Reporter whats troubling to press Freedom Advocates is that there is no publicly available document that shows the probable cause. In fact, a letter from the judge to eric meyer actually says no probable cause affidavit was filed with the Search Warrant. More than 30 News Organizations have sent a very sharply worded letter to the chief of that local Police Department saying there appears to be no justification for the breadth and intrusiveness, especially when other steps may have been available. Very important story. Thank you very much. Coming up, donald trump is facing Potential Racketeering charges in the Georgia Election interference case. Well explain what this charge is and what it might mean for the former president and his associates. jack were standing up for our right to be lazy. jan by sitting down. ronald and Reclining Back lyn we work fulltime and parent fulltime. lyns husband we will be reclined until furtr notice. 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Cnns brian todd has a closer look at one potential count. Im a fan of rico. Ive told people that. Reporter fultons county ambitious District Attorney poised to possibly use a legal tool against donald trump that hasnt been used before. She could use a rico act. Georgias rico act is modeled after the federal version, rico standing for racketeer, influence and corrupt options, an Act Signed Into Law by Richard Nixon in 1970. Racketeering basically means you have a group of individuals organized who commit a series of crimes together that are interconnected. You dont necessarily have to show that every single individual was a part of every single crime, but that this was essentially an ongoing criminal concern. Rico statutes have been used successfully in taking down wellknown mob figures like john gotti and tony salerno. They could be crimes that they did not personally commit because they were part of a criminal organization that was undertaking crimes on a regular basis. Rico has also been used to Prosecutor Members of the hells angels motorcycle gang. Fani willis herself has been a proponent of rico. Shes been very creative and she and her team has been very successful using this statute in the pass. Willis has used rico statues to allege that grammy winning rapper young thug and dozens of associates are part of a criminal gang. Hes pleaded not guilty and the case hasnt yet gone to trial. And almost a decade ago, willis used rico in the sweeping Corruption Case involving atlantas public schools. There were on convictions fo teachers and administrators for doctoring standardized test scores. Willis defended her use of rico. The reason im a fan of rico is i think jurors are very, very intelligent. They want to know the whole story, they want to know what happened. Rico is a tool that allows a Prosecutors Office and Law Enforcement to tell the whole story. Reporter but one analyst warns of the risk she would take in filing rico charges against trump. Theyre complicated to prove, a difficult concept to explain to a jury and they require you to prove additional things you might not otherwise have to prove. Reporter throughout the georgia investigation, donald trump has vehemently denied wrong doing as has his allies. Trump has repeatedly latched out at fani willis, leveling a baseless allegation that she hid a relationship with a gang member she was prosecuting. Willis called the derogatory and false. Coming up at the top of the hour, two witnesses who testified today before the Georgia Grand Jury, jeff duncan and george cheaty. Thats coming upup at the top o the hour a and well be right back. Thats service the way we want it. Singers safelite repair, safelitete replace. Businesses need 5g solutions today. Thats why they choose tmobile for business. Businesses need 5g mlb partners with tmobile to not only enhance the fan perience, but to advance how the games played. 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