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from america's ambassador at large for global criminal justice speaking at the u.n. she said the u.s. has credible information that they executed ukrainians who attempted to surrender near donetsk. images and reports from here suggest that such atrocities are not the result of rogue units or individuals but insteaeaead rev she says, a pattern of systematic abuse. also tonight, the return of american trevor reed held in russia since the summer of 2019. released today in a prisoner swap in turkey. parents spoke to reporters just a short time ago. >> not going to hit us until we see you. >> we're excited. we know he's on the plane. i think it's going to really hit us when we get to put our arms around him and hug him. >> for its part today the kremlin flexed its muscle cutting off natural gas supplies to poland and bulgaria. poland calling it a direct attack, his words, on the country, vowing not to give in tohat he cald russian black mail. vladimir putin evoked more nuclear jitters showing nonspecific but certainly ominous sounding threat. >> translator: if someone tends to intervene into the ongoing events in ukraine from the outside and creates unacceptable strategic threats for us, then they should know that our response to those strikes will be swift, lightning fast. we have all the tools for this. ones that no one can brag about and we won't brag. we will use them if needed. i want everyone to know this. >> his threat came shortly after explosions in three locations as deep as 200 miles inside russia. this is an ammunition depot on fire in the bolgorad region inside russia, close to the border explosions in kirsk and a town to the east. an adviser to president zelenskyy said, quote, karma is a cruel thing. >> that blast reportedly near the city's main television broadcasting facility. a lot to get to tonight. quoting russian media saying russian channels went off the air shortly after. also today, a sad quota to the story of the new mother who said she fofofod ch joy in the birth of her daughter. today in odessa a funeral ceremony was held for her and her 3-month-old daughter and kiera's grandmother killed in a russian missile strike over this weekend. reporting is cnn's sam kiley who spent the day under nonstop bombardment. and clarissa ward joins us with how much of a threat vladimir putin's warning could present. kaitlyn collins and matthew chce on e makings of what the prisoner swap could mean. first, sam kiley's report. >> on the front line with russia. it's an artillery front line. >> basement. let's get into the basement. >> reporter: local police are delivering aid to civilians unable to leave. there's no time to wait out the bombardment. there's no likely end to the shelling either. supplies need delivering and fast. she tells me there are three people next door including a granny of 92. upstairs a bedridden woman. she says that normally they stay in their flaand only use the basement when it's bad. thank you for not for getting us, she adds. the urgency of these sorts of deliveries cannot be exaggerated. just in this spot there's mostly old people. one man is dying in front of his wife of cancer. the wife says she's in a double hell. almost everyre every corner, every bit of this local neighborhood has got the signs of recent impacts and russians are just a kilometer, maybe three away. russian guns are so close you can hear the whole arc of their shells. from kyiv to mariupol, kharkiv to here. this is the russian way of war. pound civilians, occupy cities, maybe occupy the ashes. alexander says we're in danger now. they're shelling us. it could come at any moment and shrapnel could hurt us. we try to hide there, in the bomb shelter. two months of war has driven these people underground and there's no end in sight. the fears, alexander confesses, he tries to keep inside, but it crepes out. >> there's one more delivery that the police have got to o oe but every time we try to get out the front door of this building there's another impact. there's another one now. they're saying that the hospital, which is nearby, is under heavy shelling. we were planning to go there. we can't get through nor, indeed, at the moment can we even get out of this bunker. the hospital was hit. images done posted online by the local administration. they said one civilian killed, others injured and several floors badly damaged. the humanitarian effort goes on. this woman asks only for the basics of existence. water and candles for light. >> good job. do you do this every day? >> yes. he tells me most people left here now have nowhere else to go. they've lived here all their lives and don't want to abandon their homes. do you think russians are going to take over donetsk? >> never, he says. we will stand our ground to the last man. no one will leave here. that may be a dangerous claim. it's likely that ukrainians will destroy this bridge to hold up the invasion. anyone still here would then be trapped in russian hands. >> sam kiley joins us now along with clarissa ward in kyiv. sam, throughout your piece you could hear near constant shelling. what are the types of targets russians are hitting in this new round? >> reporter: well, i think more generally in this new round of conflict they're hitting, as we've seen in mariupol before what they declared was the second phase being launched, they're hitting civilian targets overwhelmingly, i think. certainly in sarava donetsk they were hitting the hospital and they were hitting, we saw the evidence of this all over the town, banks, street corners, trees were felled, coffee shops, people's homes. all of them being hit with these indiscriminate shells which are now being fired from artillery pieces that are really, very close indeed to that town. and then we expect that pattern to be repeated, if they can get away with it, elsewhere. i have to say also that the ukrainians have e e en firing bk with multiple rocket launching systems, particularly in the direction of robogini which fell to the russians, a town north of where i was, anderson. they were being ham jertd back with multiple rocket launches. ukrainians are rushing reinforcements to those front lines. >> clarissa, vladimir putin saying there would be a lightning response if anyone else got involved in the fighting here. it echos what lavrov said. one of our guests last night said what else do they have to do other than make these kinds of threats. there's nowhere else to go other than make these threats. >> it was ominous some of the language president putin said. we have all the tools including ones that no one can brag about but i'm not going to talk about what tools those are. so it's unclear is this sort of sci-ops unclear? sergei lavrov said yesterday, raising the spec tore of that. is there the possibility there could be a russian strike on a nato target even? i would say we don't have reason to believe that concretely at this stage, but this is all coming on the heels of the defense secretary lloyd austin's words, which were very strong, saying that ukraine can win this war if they have the right support and we want to give em the right support and, by the way, the new u.s. policy appears to be now to sort of slowly try to bleed russia dry. throughout this war. >> none of these 125i789s come in a vacuum. they are often in direct response to something else that happened. yesterday you had european countries, dozens of them meeting, the defense ministers meeting and you have lavrov talk about nuclear threats. >> i think there's no question they had not predicted this response. going back to the beginning of this war nato was frag mented about how they wanted to deal with this. it has been a robust response and united response. the u.s. is doubling down on that. it's clear the russians are not happy about it. >> sam, we heard what sounded like an air raid siren before. is that still going on? is that heard often there? >> reporter: anderson, this is the sound of spring here in kramatorsk. almost constant air raid sirens. there have been occasional strikes of missiles, probably fired from aircraft, long-range missiles. this is the sort of witching hour in this sort of hour or two before dawn when they most often strike just as the sun is coming up. so we're expecting what are likely to be largely kind of psychological pressure, i think, being made, brought to bear here on kramatorsk. i can hear it. a dededenaon just gone now. i suspect that's anti-aircraft fire. this is part of the ongoing process as the russians try to pull the the squeeze on kramatorsk. it's territory surrounded potentially on three sides by russia, but with a large gap that the russians would like to close and close the jaws around thisisisity as part of their campaign which they say is all now focused on capturing the donbas being and the east and the southern coast line. >> clarissa, sam was showing police delivering supplies to people who are sheltering at home. you were just in kharkiv with people who are in need. it is extraordinary under this bombardment, the regular problems of life continue. sam saw a man with cancer who needed things, in sam's report. all of the drama of regular life continues with wife on top of it. >> i think people forget that. they were finding lots of people who were dead in their homes, not the victims of war crimes. these were people who had heart attacks, who had pneumonia, who had no way to get to the hospital, who had no way of getting medication. so there is a sense when you can't really leave your home, it really is leaving, that simple act to go out and get a water for your family can lead to death. we saw in the graveyard that they had dug there a family looking for their father. they couldn't find their grave. how was he killed? finally he had to leave to go and get water. as soon as he left he was killed in the shelling. the basic fundamental needs, water, medicine, they are causing huge amounts of deaths as well. we won't know for such a large time. i thought about it as well in kharkiv when the missiles went off. i thought how many people have been killed in this apartment building evevevestding by the window and we don't know about it because no one's going to knock on the door, they're alone. >> in bucha we saw a man with a sack of potatoes shot to death by the russians becausheas trying to bring it to people on bike. >> clarissa, thank you very much. sam kiley as well. what went on behind the scenes to win trefor reed's freedom. the we markable bravery of the resident of buchwho documented the horrors of the war and the ukrainian trying to get thconversation. before i got aura, twenty-four of my online accounts were hacked! he uses the same password for everything. i didn't want to deal with it. but aura digital security just dealt with it. what were we worried about again? 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>> it's absolutely the perfect gift. when we got the call earlier in the week when they said something might be happening earlier this week. they said, something may be happening. am i going to have a perfect mother's day? better -- well, not better but almost as good as the day he was born. >> joining us is cnn's kaitlyn collins and matthew chance when we interviewed the russian who was traded for reed. caitlyn, what are you learning about how trevor reed's release came about today? epter: i spoke to his parents earlier, joey and paula that you saw there talking to rerters. they said they believe really what helped get this across the finish line, get his release secured was a conversation they had here at the white house about a month ago. they had been out in front of the white house, demonstrating, talking about how he was on his second hunger strike. they believe having that conversation helped with the urgency of bringing the message home. president biden said this is something he raised with russians three months ago and that they had been working on this ever since then trying to secure the release. they believe this is something that's often, very sensitive to talk about. the details are very delicate and the white house doesn't want to often disclose thememem. there are other russians detained we'd like to get out. the president said it was a difficult decision when it came to the release and that's becae released in exchange for reed. they said that was a difficult decision to make it -- to send him back to russia for reed. it's a decision president biden made. >> matthew, the prisoner swap was played on russian television. it really is something like on cold war. one person, both men eventually just kind of passing each other by as they're exchanged. for russians, why was it important? who was this man, yerashenko. >> they are playing this big and they are seeing it as something like a win because just like in the united states. that's got a lot of publicity. they want to make sure the russian national on the airport tarmac in turkey sort of in that prisoner swap with trevor reed. he's also something as a corps celeb as well. there was a way he was targeted in liberia, africa. he always complained how he was taught. they don't deny that. the russians see this as something of a diplomatic win. >> there are several russians, know tow yours arms trofker. but they did get this, they're playing something different. >> how do prisoner swaps of this nature, how does it get negotiated? >> you know, this is largely done with the state department because they have a different office that takes care of that. this is hostage taking on the part of the russians. they take hostages like this because, of course, there is no equivalency here. it is not as though there is some sort of rule of law in russia that investigates these things and then there's, you know, defense attorneys that fight for the rights of their client. that all happens in the united states and that's what mr. yarashenko got. but the state department handles most of this with the help of the other agencies if they need intelligence support, military regulation in hopes to pull these things off. >> kaitlyn, there are at least two other russians being detained. what more do we know about excuse me.ner. to release them, secure their releases? >> reporter: the white house shows president biden is committed to bringing other detained, that they weren't also grateful for trevor reed's family. that he does get to come home. you heard from paul whalen's brotototr, i'm deeply glad for them and deeply sad for us. now that that's happened, does that lessen what they have to offer? in exchange for his brother, in exchange for brittney griner. paul s s sd felt like he had been left behind on a difficult situation for them to negotiate. as steve noted it is concern. it's a concern with something the griner's are talking about. that's a main concern you hear from loved ones all the time. certainly one trevor reed's family had before his release today. >> matthew, you yurushenko. what was he convicted and what did you tell him of it? >> convicted of conspiracy to struggle drugs in which there was a plot to sent it to know gear yeah. he never actually smuggled any drugs but he was arrested when he agreed to do it and then extradited to the united states and put in prison for a sentence of 20 years. in russia that was seen as acting outside of the jurisdiction. it was because of that that the fofofoign ministry and official have been pushing so hard to get him released. just on that issue of whether this sort of erodes the bargaining power the uatas when other americans in russian custody. i'll tell you, the flip side of that argument, the farct there was such a bad relationship yet this negotiation still goes through, it shows that the two of you can compartmentalize. there are very big tensions. >> interesting. yeah. matthew chance, steve hall, kaitlyn collins. thanananyoso much. coming up, our visit to bucha. also we meet the man who documented the reality on one street in bucha while the russians were occupying it. and the man murdered on his bicyclcle. that's next. and stopped the growth of tumor cells. there's a placace that's makig one advanced cancer discovery after another for 75 years. i am here... i am here.... because of dana-farber. what we do here changes lives everywhere. i am here. ♪ ♪ we believe there's an innovator in all of us. ♪ that's why we build technology that makes it possible for every business... and every person... to come to the table and do more incredible things. 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>> translator: local residents were killed on the street by the russian military. they were shot, killed even just going out to the street around their business or going to pick up monetary aid. >> reporter: this is bucha's prosecutor collecting evidence of war crimes. >> translator: people were killed at this point. there was a woman killed here. there were bodies here and there where the road is turning left. there were people riding bicycles who were killed by the russian military. >> reporter: russia denies it all. they say the more than 300 bodies found in bucha after russian troops were moved were staged. as for these satellite images taken in mid march, it shows bodies in the exact same locations they were later found, russia says they, too, are fake. but the evidence already overwhelming continues to grow. prosecutors have been gathering evidence for weeks and have now revealed to us that they have photographs and videos taken over the course of several days as the killings occurred here. they say the images were captured by a person in this house on their cell phone camera. it was through these windows he saw the slaughter. this is one of his first pictures taken on march 5th. two bodies reportedly killed that day were visible outside his window. on march 6th when this picture was taken, a third body is visible on the street. this video taken on march 7th shows at least two more bodies. he says these images and the data in the camera phone they were taken with provides important proof of exactly who was killed and when. >> translator: it will prove that it was a particular phone the pictures were taken with and the time and the location they were taken. the russian federation will not be able to continue saying this was set up with fakes. >> reporter: we tracked down the man who risked his life to take these photos and video. we agreed not to show his face. >> reporter: were you scared to take the pictures? >> of course there was fear. i had to prove they killed civilians. i had to do something. >> reporter: do you remember the first person killed on your street? >> the first one to get killed was the man on the bicycle on the left of my house. on march 6th there were more people dead. 7 people dead on march 6th. 7 dead people. i couldn't capture all the bodies from the window. there was a wall in the way. >> reporter: what do you want to see happen to everybody in the chain of command? >> there must be punished. there was a young guy bringing potatoes to the bag. the stores were closed, no power, no heating, no water. he wanted to help, what does he deserve, only punishing. >> reporter: punishing the guilty won't be easy. there were a number of different russian units as i understand who were stationed here at one time or another. do you need to try to identify which unit it was, what the chain of command was? >> translator: that's very important to identify not only the commanders but the troops who committed the crimes and have them held accountable. >> reporter: ten russian soldiers have been identified using eye witness accounts and drone footage and images like this one taken from a traffic surveillance camera. but whether he can learn the identities of the russians stationed on the street is unclear. the man killed on march 5th on his bike was 68-year-old vold mer provochenko. his wife svitlana lives not far away. they were married for 45 years, have two kids and three grandchildren. >> translator: we told him not to go to work because there were tanks on the street and we told him not to go. he said, no, i have to go to work. i have work to do. i don't know what to tell you. it's awful. it's awful. >> reporter: it is all so awful. the bicycle her husband rode is still on the street near the spot where he died. she doesn't want it back. to her what happened is just too terrible to face. >> reporter: coming up, we'll look at the crisis in bucha with the u.n. secretary general. he met with vladimir putin today. he'll meet with zelenskyy tomorrow. my one-on-one conversation with him since his meeting with putin is next. at adp, we use data-driven insights to design hr solutions to help you engage and retain top performers today, so you can have more success tomorrow. ♪ one thing leads to another, yeah, yeah ♪ i've got moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now, there's skyrizi. 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months, after just 2 doses. skyrizi may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. before treatment, your doctor should check you for infections and tuberculosis. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms such as fever, sweats, chills, muscle aches, or coughs, or if you plan to, or recently received a vaccine. ♪ nothing is everything ♪ talk to your dermatologist about skyrizi. learn how abbvie could help you save. this is lily. when you see things differently, you can be the difference. ♪ capella university sees education differently. our flexpath learning format helps you control the pace and cost of your master's degree. (music throughout) just brought you the story of some of the chilling and newly revealed images from bucha. here in kyiv i spoke about what happened in bucha earlier with u.n. secretary general antonio gut guttierez. he sat down with vladimir putin to create humanitarian corridors. this was his first and only english language meeting since that meeting with vladimir putin. were you satisfied with what you heard from vladimir putin yesterday? >> i think it was a very useful meeting. first of all, it was possible to tell the same things to president putin the same things i say here in new york or here in kyiv, which is the russian invasion is against the charter of the united nations. it's a violation of the territorial integrity of ukraine and end it as quickly as possible and at the same time our concerns about violations of international law, human rights law, possibility of war crimes. so i could express these concerns very clearly, very openly and at the same time a very serious discussion on our weekend, my dramatic situations. i concentrated my efforts inita corridors and the civilians trapped in the steel factory in mariupol. >> there may be as many as 1,000 civilians in there at last count. the humanitarian corridors, it has been very frustrating for ukrainians trying to get out. russia says the corridors are open and yet the ukrainian officials say they continue to bomb or the corridors may be open but only heading to russia. do you believe vladimir putin would allow civilians to leave to ukraine? >> let's be clear, president putin agreed with me in principle that we would have with the support of the u.n. and the support of the international committee of the red cross, that we would have evacuation of those civilians into the territory controlled by the ukrainian government and we have been working on the details. at the present moment they are being discussed in moscow between the ministry of defense and our people. we are also in contact with the government of ukraine to see if we can have a situation in which nobody can blame the other side for things not happening. >> when some people look at u.n. and are frustrated that on the security council russia obviously has a veto and can stop anything from the security council really ruling on what is happening here. what do you say to those who say that the u.n. can't be effective because of that? >> well, u.n. is not only the security council. the general assembly was clear in its positions and we have 1,400 staff in ukraine. we already have different humanitarian aid to 7 million ukrainians. one of the reasons for my visit is to organize things in order to scale up our action and to be able to do much more for the ukrainians having such dramatic circumstances. >> as for now your sites are trying to focus on what you think may be achievable just in terms of getting civilians out of desperate situations as opposed to a multi-national meeting to try to actually end the war? >> i mean, the war will not end with meetings. the war will end when the russian federation decides to end it and when there is a serious political agreement. we can have all meetings but that is not what will end the wars. >> what role is the u.n. playing in terms of war crimes investigations on the ground? yesterday vladimir putin after your meeting continued to say things which were not true saying that the bodies that were found in bucha was a provocation and that's a reason why negotiations failed because of these false images of dead people when it's clear russian troops killed civilians in bucha. >> since the very first moment i said we need an independent investigation. we need to have accountability. i must say, i am very hopeful that the international prosecutor is here, that they are investigating. that is the right way to do things. there is also a group of three members of the committee of inquiry of human rights council. there are monitors and the office of human rights high commissioner and i hope that the truth will be fully established and that responsibilities can be there and accountability can be effective. >> finally, general milli in the united states yesterday said the global order that's been held together since world war ii is under threat if russia is allowed to be victorious. do you agree with that, that international security is at threat here? >> international order for me is essentially the charter and international law. there was a violation of the chartier and international law. it is very important to establish the principles of the charter and to make international law something everybody is forced to abide by. >> just one more question. when you talk to vladimir putin, do you use the word war? do you use the word invasion? >> i say the same things i say in moscow, kyiv, and new york. that is how the united nations can be credible. if we go to each place and say whatever people like to hear in that place, we will completely lose credibility. >> it was lavrov that raised the specter of nuclear weapons being used. how big of a concern is that for you? >> it is a concern. i'm sure the world will avoid that risk. i mean, it would be absolutely unacceptable to think about it. >> mr. secretary general, thank you. >> thank you very much. all the best. >> i appreciate it. as i said, he'll be meeting with president zelenskyy here in ukraine tomorrow. we'll continue to bring you updates from ukraine tonight. coming up, the incredible story of what is going on in shanghai, china. people forbidden to leave their homes because of covid outbreak. reporter david culver is in the country himself stuck in his apartment living through it all. his report next. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ to be clear, we have never been accused of being flashy, sexy or lit. may i? 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[ screaming ] nearly one month of hard lockdown and many shanghai residents are at a breaking point. feelings of being caged in amplified when the city recently began installing fences like these to keep people from leaving their apartment buildings. and on the streets, more and more barocades going up. medical resources stretched. these shanghai hospital workers refusing to help a desperate mother. [ speaking foreign language ] >> reporter: cnn also living through the shanghai lockdown. outside my door, only a paper seal. a covid guard sits on watch in my compound. much like the rest of this city, exhausted by the extreme containment efforts. here the white hazmat suit is the symbol of enforcement, using it as a scare crow to keep people in check. since 2020 chinese authorities have turned to harsh lockdowns in hopes of containing covid. right now people in more than two dozen cities across china are living in full or partial lockdowns. some border cities have been in months-long lockdowns, with outsiders barely paying attention. in shanghai, demand for government quarantine space is rising with the case count, exhibition centers, gyms, classrooms, entire office buildings all taken over to isolate positive cases and close contacts. and those trapped in their homes banging pots to vent their anger. one woman heard screaming -- [ screaming ] >> reporter: -- give me back my freedom. >> and david joins me from shanghai. david, this is a nightmare. people screaming from their windows, i want freedom. let me ask you first, were you allowed to leave your apartment today? >> i got a few steps onto my terrace or patio, which is still part of my property. so, i'm allowed to be in there. but just to put out the trash. generally they take the steps when there's the mass covid testing, but they've now started doing that at our doors. so, they don't want us leaving our own property at this point. not much, but that's the reality. >> just to be clear, you don't have covid. the other people locked in their apartments, they don't have covid. this is just to prevent you from going out and potentially meeting somebody who does. is that correct? >> this is what is so maddening about all of this. i see even in my neighbors' group chats, we're all talking, we are tested every single day. and for the vast majority, it is negative, negative, negative. and yet, they are consistent in keeping us in this lockdown scenario. so, yeah, we don't have covid. as far as we know, we're not close contacts with anyone here. and so it's a bizarre reality that they just insist on keeping in place. >> you saw people lashing out, trying to break down barriers. understandably people's emotions are frayed after a month of this. is that happening a lot around the city, or are those incidents isolated? >> i think it's indicative of mental health too. no, it's happening more and more frequently, and it's rare in china. you know this well. there's a level of social acceptance that you don't see a lot of resistance. so, what we're seeing not only online -- and generally people are hesitant to post things, but now they're putting a lot more out there even though sensors are trying to clamp down as best as possible. it's a struggle for them to keep up. but then in person, physically resist. and i can't tell you how many fights i've heard now in my own community. outside the doors you hear people who are going back and forth with community volunteers and shouting and screaming. it shows you where emotions are at this point. and for my community and several others, it's been longer than a month. we're now at day 44. >> and is there any timeline on this? how long are you stuck in your apartment for? >> so, i was just looking at one of the state media articles once again today saying that shanghai is going to ease restrictions, calling this a major step in lifting lockdowns. but anderson, we have been seeing reports like this now for at least a couple weeks. people really aren't buying it. there's a roadmap to get out of this, and that is communities had to go 14 straight days without any new case. what's been happening is folks have been getting closer and closer to that day 14. suddenly a new case pops up and the committee says, you're going to stay in lockdown for another two weeks. >> so, it's community based. david culver, i appreciate what you're going through. thank you. as we've seen, the war in ukraine has gone far beyond military facilities. there's been reports of everyday civilians being forced from their homes, executed in the streets, in some cases raped. nick paton walsh has the story of a 16-year-old girl's encocounter with russian soldie next. ♪ we believe there's an innovator in all of us.s. ♪ that's why we build technology that makes it possible for every business... and every person... to come to the table and do more incredible things. before treating your chronic migraine, 15 or more headache days a month each lasting 4 hours or more, you're not the only one with questions about botox® botox® prevents headaches in adults with chnic migraine before they even start, with about 10 minutes of treatment once every 3 months. so, ask your doctor if botox® is right for you, and if a sample is available. effects of botox® may spread hours to weeks after injection causing serious symptoms. alert your doctor right away, as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness can be signs of a life-threatening condition. side effects may include allergic reactions, neck and injection site pain, fatigue, and headache. don't receive botox® if there's a skin infection. tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions and medications, including botulinum toxins, as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. in a survey, 92% of current users said they wish they'd talked to their doctor and started botox® sooner. plus, right now, you may pay zero dollars for botox®. ask your doctor about botox® today.

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