from the ground in ukraine. >> it was the highest level visit to ukraine since the invasion. defense secretary lloyd austin and secretary of state antony blinken made the risky journey to visit ukrainian president zelenskyy in the capitol, kyiv, there, the u.s. promised return of diplomats to ukraine and new military aid. president biden also finally announced a nominee for ambassador to ukraine, the current ambassador to slovakia, bridget brink. >> we don't know how the rest of the war will unfold but we do know a sovereign, independent ukraine will be around a lot longer than vladimir putin on the scene and our support for ukraine going forward will continue. it will continue until we see final success. >> following his visit, austin made the administration's most aggressive comments toward russia so far, saying it intends to see russia, quote, weakened. >> we want to see russia weakened to a degree that it can't do the kinds of things that it has done in invading ukraine, so it has already lost a lot of military capability and a lot of its troops, quite frankly, and we want to see them not have the capability to very quickly reproduce that capability. >> austin and blinken, as well as other world leaders travelled in and out of ukraine by train, within hours of their departure, russia struck train lines in west and central ukraine five times. the focus of the russian military offensive, however, remains in the east and south. ukrainian officials say the ukrainian forces are bracing for a new push in the kherson region. >> i am seeing in the last three days there is a lot of troop movement in the city of kherson, ch troops changing deployment in check points and increase in troops. >> according to the mayor of odesa, russian missiles killed eight people there over the weekend, just as the country was celebrating the orthodox easter holiday, among the dead, said ukrainian president, a mother and her baby. >> translator: among those killed was a three month old baby girl. how did she threaten russia? it seems killing children is a new national idea of the russian f federation. >> reporter: in mariupol, still snow safe way out for civilians from the steel plant, the last bastian of resistance in the city ukrainian officials continue to accuse russia of forcibly deporting mariupol residents, telling cnn russia is trying to depopulated eastern ukraine. >> sending a message not only to us but to other countries around the world, surrender or be erased. >> reporter: russian forces continually targeted ukrainian railways the chairman of the state railway system says russia has systematically destroyed infrastructure, in part to go after supply lines the u.s. and nato have used to supply weapons to ukrainian forces but u.s. and nato officials said those supply lines remain open. don? >> all right, jim sciutto, thank you very much, i want to bring in now, isa, good to see you, russian president volodomyr zelenskyy speaking out about the intense fighting in eastern and southern ukraine, what is his message tonight? >> good evening to you don, well his message tonight is very much one of defiance, fair to say, as well as resolve as this war, of course, enters its third month. it's just astounding to think we're in month three here. president zelenskyy speaking as he normally does, at the address, said ukraine's victory is inevitable but said there was no simple answer as to the question of when they'll defeat the russians as when this war would end. he did take, as he often does in his addresses, time to opportunity to really praise the courage, as well as wisdom of ukraine's fighters from the front line who were not only, might i add, pushing back against russia but also turning their backs on russia's occupying force. this is the case in kherson that jim sciutto mentioned a few minutes ago which is being occupied for weeks now where forces are trying to hold an independence referendum on what they're calling the kherson peoples' republic, but ukrainians are standing strong and defiant in the face of this aggression. have a listen to what president zelenskyy. >> the lessons of history are well-known. if you're going to build a milennial reich, you lose. if you're going to destroy the neighbors, you lose. if you want to restore the old empire, you lose. and if you go against ukrainians, you lose. >> incredibly strong words there from president zelenskyy as russia, of course, continues an offensive, not just in the east, not just in the west, don, but also here in the west in lviv where there's train stations were hit about 35 miles or so -- >> goodness, the situation in mariupol getting more horrific by the days. what are you learning about the women and children stuck in the basement of a steel-making complex the last two months. >> yeah. the situation there, don, is so incredibly dire. it really begs belief. we know holed up inside that steel plant, and it's a vast steel plant by the way, count for about 25% of the city of mariupol. we know there are about 1,000 women, children, soldiers, including wounded soldiers and it's just staggering and we know from the ceo of the company who owns the steel plant that they are even surprised they still have food and water in the shelter because before the war started, don, they were stocked with enough supply according to the ceo for about 2 to three weeks so must be quickly running out of that. now they've been inside for 1 and a half months and one can't even imagine, not just the impact it's having on their health, but also their mental health and they got to the point now, so desperate to get out, because they've been completely bombarded and shelled and pummelled by russian forces and on a daily basis, have a listen to one woman's plea. >> translator: my city is completely destroyed. there is not a single place that's intact. everything is bombed out. the children here are crying all the time. they want to play, they want to live. we can't even go outside, we have children who haven't been outside, haven't even seen d daylight for weeks. children not going outside. we have maximum a week's worth of water. food, too. in a week's time, i don't know where, what will happen to us. >> and this, don, is just inside the asovstad steel plant in the city of mariupol itself, about 100,000 people who haven't been able to get out, because there's been no humanitarian corridor for the past several days. so incredibly dire situation that many are telling us has become the humanitarian catastrophe. >> thank you so much, appreciate that, turning now to cnn military analyst and retired air force colonel cedric leighton, good evening, learning tonight, forces taken control of the kherson city council, weeks since they occupied that city, what does this tell you about the state of the fight? >> good evening, don, this is a typical way in which the russians do business, so we'll take a map at ukraine first, right here this is the city we're talking about right on the edge of russian control versus ukrainian control right here. if we go into a detailed look right here, as kherson is right here, and -- what the russians are trying to do is establish the same kind of governmental structure that they established up here in the donbas region. so this is their idea, not only are they physically trying to control this area to make that famous landbridge, but they're also trying to set up government structures in here, the so-called peoples' republics designed to take over this area and have a government in place that replaces the ukrainian governmental institution that have existed up until this point. >> the russian foreign minister sergei lavrov is warning, frightening, though, about the risk of nuclear war. of a nuclear war. he said it cannot be underestimated. if russia was really going to do, going to use nuclear weaponeds, how might that happen, what would they target? >> several things they could target, don, one of the uses of nuclear weapons at least in the planning manuals is to go after critical infrastructure, you got to ask yourself the question, what critical infrastructure is actually going to be remaining in many of these places? so what could happen is takcticl nukes potentially, a big, big, if, could be used to take out institutions in kyiv, the capitol, perhaps they would go after institutions in niprot or kharkiv, but that would have a little too close to the russian border and i doubt they would use them there. but the main idea would be to take out either institutions of the government or military institutions perhaps the air force headquarters in venictzia, those might be possible targets for them but would definitely be overkill, not a proportional force as would be required under the international laws of war. >> defense secretary lloyd austin, you know, visiting there and says he wants russia weakened. when you look at the situation on the ground now, do you see that happening? how do you see it happen? >> well, there's several ways it could happen, don, what we're looking at here is basically a slow-bleed of the russian forces. so the russians are coming in this way, in through isium here and in fact, let me erase this and bring it back up so it's clearer. this is isium, the rugs are reportedly controlling this area. they're moving in this direction so they're moving toward the south, south west. also trying to come up here. what they want to do, though, is get rid of the siege at mariupol, take over the remaining areas, the asov steel plant we just talked about. those areas there are in the area they're looking at but one more thing they're doing here, they got this and if they control these areas the other thing they want to do is go towards odesa and from there, we already have an indications in moldova in transnistria what they're doing is creating a sort of false flag situation where what they have is explosions that have gone on today that are, were created under suspicious circumstances and if they create an event here, several events here, what they can do is potentially use the tumult here to create a situation where they control this area which would be the port of odesa so that is what the russians want to do in order to bleed them dry though, so they don't i do this kind of thing, the ukrainians are going to have to make sure they maintain forces in this area and going to have to have high mobility so they move their forces around very quickly to counter every single russian advance that is happening in this region and this region in the south. >> defense secretary austin also said ukraine can win with the right equipment, what kind of equipment is he talking about? >> several possibilities here, but for instance this u.s. army model here that is part of the mix that the administration is sending over to ukraine, the howitzer's 120 that they moved forward into this area will be key to going after tanks so that's item number one. speaking of tanks, there's a t-72 tank, the eastern european members of nato, those that have these soviet-made tanks, moving them into ukraine, getting theirs replaced by american-made tanks and european made tanks can be used in tank-on-tank situation in the eastern part of the country. with that said, the drone, this is an example, the switchblade 600, there's another one, the phoenix, that is designed to be very similar, the phoenix ghost is created by the u.s. air force to be similar to the switchblade drone, these are kamikaze drones which means they explode on impact, have antiarmor warhead that can go after hardened targets as well as softer targets like the radar pieces there, controlled individually and also can go in and distinguish between a friendly target as well as an unfriendly target so that's the key element there with these drones. finally, for mobility purposes and for gunshot purposes they can use helicopters, this is primarily a transport helicopter, an mi-17 but this would be the type of weapon system that would be very useful for the ukrainians at the present time. >> colonel, thank you so much, appreciate it. weapons are only part of the equation here. what else does ukraine need to push back putin's forces? 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>> also a very good question. i think we've had some questions about the level of real intelligence that, you know, he has received, that said he did recently change not only commanders but command structure so i think he has a sense that russia needs to up its game if it's going to succeed. >> the u.s. and nato are pouring weapons into ukraine, what else do they need to weaken russia, i mean secretary austin said, you know, they need to weaken russia and strengthen ukraine's hand, perhaps ahead of the future negotiations so how do they do it? >> i think, yeah, there's an element of addition and subtraction in that equation. certainly, the sanctions on technology going to russia will help limit russia's ability to rearm whenever, you know, this phase of the conflict ends but i think most of that equation will be on the side of addition to ukraine. obviously, we're seeing that in realtime in terms of the increased defensive capability that ukraine is exhibiting on the battle field, but beyond that, we have to be talking about protection. it's an issue that secretary austin and the military heads of command in europe will be talking about in just a few hours in europe, you know, and one of the issues they'll broach is what kind of security guarantees, you know, can you give to ukraine going forward. >> the u.s. also plans to resume diplomatic presidenence in kyiv what do you think about diplomats returning, is it a vote of confidence in ukraine? >> i think it's a recognition the nature of the battle has changed, it's moved east. it doesn't mean the threat is gone, as we've seen with, you know, missile attacks here and there, you know, still around kyiv, still around, you know, lviv, but clearly, you know, reopening or reestablishing diplomatic presence, you know, in the short term, diplomats will come across the border from where they've been situated in poland and perhaps in a couple of weeks time, be able to reopen, you know, the embassy in kyiv, you know, very important as you consider what's happening on the ground, you know, counsellor activity being able to help ukrainian citizens get out of the country if they can, but also beginning to assess what will ukraine's needs be to rebuild, you know, once this phase of the conflict ends. >> you know, this got overshadowed largely by the war but there's another big event in europe over the weekend that's france's presidential election. emmanuel macron won a second term beating out the far right candidate mary le pen, a big supporter of putin prior to the war and known for not being too fond of the eu and nato. how much did all of this play into her downfall? >> i think, france has recognized in the middle of a war it may not be the best move to change, you know, your commander in chief. and certainly, from a u.s. standpoint, it is very much a bullet dodged and one of the key elements in the u.s. strategy, the nato strategy is nato unity, as you said, don, you know, she was going to revisit the question of, you know, french participation in the nato command structure so this had the potential to fracture the alliance at a very inopportune moment. >> you note that putin quickly congratulated macron following his reelection. why? what is his motive? you're laughing, why? what's going on? >> well, yeah, he probably would have been delighted had le pen won but, you know, macron and putin have had serious conversations, you know, with the departure of angela merkel who played a leadership role in trying to maintain a relationship, you know, with vladimir putin in many respects, you know, that now falls to emmanuel macron and i would suspect perhaps now that following up on the u.n. secretary-general's meeting this week with putin, that macron will once again try to reestablish contact with putin and ftalk him into a cease fire in some negotiation. >> it was interesting because mary le pen showing higher than the folks who actually showed up to vote for her. support for le pen was substantial, do you read anything into these results? >> i think it mirrors who we experienced last year and at least, you know, for a moment, you know, for the united states last year for france this year, you know, there was a kind of a sober recognition that you need a tested leader and i think there was a major decision by the french, you know, people and everyone is breathing a sigh of le relief. >> yeah. thank you, good to see you, be well. >> all right don, take care. the world's richest man, elon musk purchasing twitter today for reported $44 billion he says it's all about free speech, but is it? 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>> it is. you know, there could be a break-up still, something could happen, the shares of tesla could go down, they got some time, i'm sure there's a -- i doubt there's going to be another bid going in here, but certainly things congress can do, congressional people, scc, all kinds of possibilities but looks like a done deal at this point. >> when you read, he said it's the bedrock of our democracy, free speech, bed rock of our democracy, twitter is the digital town square, is this really about free speech? what does it mean when it comes to social media in our society here, it's a big question, i know. >> it's a little bit pr. it sounds good. it's something that matters to him for sure, he's definitely a user of twitter and an enthusiastic user of twitter, i think that's his thing here, he's talking about the idea of freeing everyone to say what they want as if they can't already. i don't think elon's been sensored in any way you says what he wants all the time and in fact, often, so i think one of the issues is he had problems with the deplatforming of a bunch of different people including donald trump and he felt like in order for it to be a functioning democracy, people who disagree with each other should be able to debate out in the open and one of the things he's talking about is transparency of the algorithms, people being identified, you know, and then down to editing tweets and things like that but that's just more product issues. so he's trying to refresh twitter and possibly figure out a new way to moderate it but in a different way making it more open and transparent and we'll see, it hasn't worked so far the other way, so he's trying a different one. >> i don't think anyone disagrees it should be a free and open debate or platform but it should it necessarily be a font for misinformation and or, you know, to say things about people that just aren't true? >> apparently, yes, according to elon musk. yeah, i think so. that's what he's saying. he's a free speech maximalist, now a lot of people, it's very difficult to moderate as you've seen, you know, people sort of have these fights over it, the left and right are arguing over it. you know, the right talks about censorship and shadow banning which there's been no real proof of yet, maybe elon will inveil it in some fashion but when anyone gets to say what they want, anybody gets to say what they want and that can lead to some really ugly situations, especially on digital media where people feel a little more unfettered and maybe addicted to it. >> and anonymous. for hate speech, do you think he thinks hate speech should be free to be blasted over twitter? do you think that -- we're going to go there? >> i don't know his rules. i don't know his rules. they seem to be headed in that direction. twitter had a bunch of rules, many of which they didn't enforce at all, and i think that was one of the issues is twitter had a lot of rules and it was very arbitrary. very difficult, you know, millions of posts being done at any one time and same thing over at youtube or facebook, et cetera. and a very difficult issue, content moderation and some people think there should be more and some people think there should be less so we'll see, this is the less guy, the one who thinks, you know, all speech needs to be free. >> you mentioned the deplatforming of people and also mentioned the former president and whether, you know, president trump could be allowed back on the site even though he says he doesn't want to be on the site and he will be using his own platform, so far that platform has been a bust. what do you think is going to happen? >> that platform is a bust, i'd stick a fork in it at this point which is what i'm saying, i think he's not going to be able to resist it especially if he runs for president and becomes president he loves twitter it's helped him politically, whether you like him or not it's helped him and certainly gotten to get his word out, being in the news which he likes even more than elon musk so i think, you know, i think definitely yes, he would put him back on the platform, lift the permanent ban. i think twitter would have had to face this issue anyway, there has been a lot of pressure not to do that and if he was the candidate for presidency for the g.o.p. and if he won, so i think twitter would have faced this issue with or without elon and would have been very difficult to resist, you know, putting him back on the platform, maybe with caveats in terms of behavior and elon's solution is, i think, sounds like you're dealing with a toddler which is time-outs which in this case you maybe are dealing with a toddler from an internet point of view. so i don't know, time-outs, works for me, with kids, doesn't work at all for any parent knows that but whatever. >> if you're going to have this where, you know, it's in the open range for free speech where everybody can say whatever they want then one hardly has any space to complain about being canceled. right? we know free speech isn't free so something people don't like, you get in trouble for it. so what, then, do you think about one of -- not one of -- the richest man in the world, who is going to have control of a social media site? i mean, you know, just a few super wealthy people get to control a lot of our media platforms out there. >> mm-hmm. yes don, i've been saying for of this for years, i don't know what to say, is it different than jeff bezos on the washington post, probably because there are reporters there who can resist this, he hasn't medaled a lot in that publication, it's more traditional. billionaires have owned publication and see networks for years, by the ways the owners of twitter used to be the saudis, owner of twitter, one of them was the saudi, not a big deal in that sense, i don't think they meddled necessarily but there was spying going on a few years ago by some people there. i think it is, it's this coalition of, coalescing of power among the powerful and that they own these things. now twitter, as much as we talk about it because you like t i like t it, the media likes it, e right likes it, it's not that big, what's big is twitter and tiktok is growing and more innovative so i'm not so sure making a big deal of this is a big deal, unless he make it is bigger and fwgrows more and by e way, he's in big trouble if it doesn't make more money financially speaking so i don't know if it's as big a deal to people in our little, not just us but all kinds of people who use twitter actively. whether it's, you know, you or anyone else it's a playground for people who like it and it's not for the rest of the world. >> always a pleasure, c cara swisher, host of the podcast sway. thank you. >> nice singing. 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congressman william timmons says the president need to see stop this asap, rience prievus quote, tell them to go home in all caps. what does this say about telling meadows, to get trump to stop the insurrection, inthey though he had the power to tell people what to do? >> well, don, there are truth in those texts. the beauty of texts as evidence is you can't run from them later. you can try to change your story later but you said what you said, you did what you did, it's in writing at the time of the events and the consistent theme that comes through these texts is everybody around the president understood that the rioters were there for donald trump. everybody understood that it was really bad, despite subsequent efforts to try to spin this and everybody understood that only donald trump had the power of the authority, the ability to call off the rioters and so yeah, the party line definitely changed since then, but those texts show us exactly what those people were doing and saying and thinking on january 6th. >> watch this video every time, haven't seen it in a while, but how embarrassing for our curt country, don junior texted meadows he's got to condemn this s-h-i-t as quick as possible. saying this is one, i guess he typed it quickly, you get to the mattress on. they will try to f his entire legacy on this it gets worse, what does it say to you as mark meadows his role in this as trump's own son has to go through mark meadows? >> yeah, mark meadows is mission control here. he's the point guard, everything runs through mark meadows and i think it's worth remembering, mark meadows is not cooperating with the committee, we know about the texts because he started to kocooperate then something happened, got cold feet, stopped and since then had no consequences. let's remember, mark meadows has been heltd in contempt of the committee, sent that over four months ago, doj has not done a thing with it so unless something changes, mark meadows really at the fulcrum of all this will get away without ever testifying. >> look at this text from marjorie taylor greene, texts meadows, in our private chat with only members, several are saying the only way to save our republic is for trump to call for marshal law. i don't know on those things, i just wanted you to tell him, they stole this election. we all know. they will destroy our country next. please tell him to declassify as much as possible so we can go after biden and anyone else. i -- look -- it's not funny, i mean, it's just, it's just delusional. she's calling for marshal law. but last week when she was asked under oath if she had ever discussed any of this about martial law, this is what she said. >> would you advocate to president trump to impose martial law as a way to stay in power? >> i don't recall. >> so you're not denying you did it, you just don't remember. >> so now facing that locker from the civil war era law, traitors not being allowed to run for office, do you think this will have any affect on the trial? >> well, i think it's completely unbelievable she would not remember this. put problem with the i don't recall we kept hearing from marjorie taylor greene is it's really hard to prove she did recall, it's sort of the ult ultimate cop out but remember this is a member of congress going through somebody and telling someone that the president and other members and i of congress would like you to seriously consider martial law, meaning we get rid of the laws and the president and military essentially say over, that is the stuff of despites the antithesis of everything our democracy is about. >> let me ask you new york state judge holding trump in contempt of court for not turning over document to see the state attorney general, ordered to pay $10,000 a day until he complies with the subpoena. do you think this is going to get to cop up these documents? >> well, don, this is actually a real consequence. i know there are rare, when it comes to donald trump, but you really can't mess around with a contempt order. really, donald trump only had as a few options, one can pay $10,000 a day in perpetrator duty and even for rich or reportedly rich people, adds up quick, 3.5 million a year, he can pay forever, i doubt he'll do that, he can turn over the documents he's required to do, that's what most people do. he can convince the judge that he's done a search and actually doesn't have documents, i find it hard to believe that donald trump has no financial documents relating to donald trump or he can win his appeal, he's going to appeal, it's very unlikely he wins that appeal, really hard to overturn a contempt order so he's in a tough spot here. not going to be able to delay and foot drag and worm his way out of this. >> eli honig, thank you very much sir, appreciate it. enjohnny depp wrapping up testimony in his 50 million defamation suit against amber heard, what he s said, next wp the sleep number 360® smart bed is on sale now. why choose proven quality sleep from sleep number? 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