amber heard about text messages he sent to friends. >> after you said, let's drown her before we burn her," mr. depp, you said i will [ bleep ] her burnt corpse afterwards to make sure she's dead. that's what you said you would do after you burned her and after you drowned her. did i read that right? >> you certainly did, yes. >> more on ten's cross-examination straight ahead. but first, i start in lviv. thank you for joining us. there are new satellite images, new evidence of what appears to be mass graves just outside mariupol. what do you know about that? >> reporter: don, good evening to you. we are hearing more harrowing details of acts of absolute savagery taking place across ukraine, the sort of acts that one would have thought was consigned to the history books. but what we know, compiled and analyzed by technologies is that mass burial site containing about 200 new graves has been identified in a village. this is the satellite images at the top of the screen, that long line there. now, these mass graves are about 20 times larger, this is so hard to ma fathom this, 70 times larger than the ones found in butcha. russian soldiers have been taking the bodies of people killed in mariupol and dumping them here. and they believe as many as 20,000 people have died in mariupol after weeks of intense bombardment, a city that's only a city by name. 98% or so has been completely destroyed, and the images charred to the bone. of course, a city like you said, that vladamir putin claims has been liberated, though there's still that last pocket of resistance inside the steel plant, a plant putin decided not to storm, not out of the kindness of his heart, but simply because he doesn't want his own troops to face the wrath of the ukrainian forces still inside that steel plant, don. >> uh-huh. and there has been so much suffering in mariupol. very few have been able to make it out. what is the latest on the evacuation? >> reporter: well, let's just say quite frankly that it's just not going according to plan, and it hasn't been for several days. ukraine's deputy minister says the evacuation of civilians is going very slowly, and she says that on the russian side, everything is complicated, chaotic, and dishonest, those were her words. and the minister has even apologized the last 24 hours for residents for really failing to evacuate them. having said that, on wednesday to thursday, just to clarify, for the first time, people were evacuated from the besieged city of mariupol. but the numbers are very low. they were hoping to evacuate 6,000 people, but have only evacuated 79 civilians. and just our viewers get an understanding of the number we are talking about. to date, more than 100,000 have left mariupol, but still 100,000 remain in the city. we also heard from the ceo of the company that owns that steel plant, and he says in his own words, the situation there is close to catastrophe. don? >> thank you very much. we appreciate it. we'll get back to ukraine in just a minute. in the studio with us, steve hall and counterterrorism analyst phil mudd. thank you both for joining. steve, the russian losses are piling up. as she was reeling them off there, thousands of troops dead or injured, you were shaking your head and the number of people still trying to get out, the sinking of that "moskva" the failure to take kyiv. now vladamir putin is claiming russia liberated mariupol. he has to find some sort of win to give to the russian people are. they buying it though, is the question? >> you know, at the very least, don, i think putin has to walk away with at least the donbas and perhaps sort of that southern swath if he can convince the people he had a significant victory. he went in saying he was going to take over the whole country. that's a propaganda problem for him. he controls 99% of all the information that russians consume, so that helps. but eventually, truths start to accumulate. the fact that they had to destroy 98% of mariupol. these things get through. the dead young russian soldiers. it will be harder for him to convince russians that this whole endeavor was worth it in the end. >> phil, you just heard steve. putin has an iron grip on what his people hear, but the sinking of the "moksva" might be hard to hide. one father of a son who is missing, says his 19-year-old was serving as a cook on this ship, and he says the more we write, the harder it will be for them to remain silent. he collected the names of 15 soldiers missing, 14 were conscripts. sit problematic another this point for putin? >> i am not too optimistic. you're looking at russia and pretending it's a situation that's fundamentally different than what we have seen in the united states. it is. as steve mentioned, the russian government controls almost all the media. but let me give you two instances in this country where people were misled. let's go way back. vietnam war, body bags. people were told for years, body bags meant victory. that was a failure. fast forward to afghanistan. for years we said we're winning, we're winning. we purr swatded ourselves we were winning and that was never the case. think about a closed society where there aren't alternative avenues like cnn for people to listen to, and you want to tell me that vladamir putin can't control a message? i don't buy it, don. i don't buy it. >> ukraine's military intelligence on wednesday released purported communications intercepted of russian armed forces referring to an alleged order to kill ukrainian prisoners of war in the eastern region of luhansk. listen to this. >> steve hall, i need to point out that cnn cannot vouch for the authenticity of the recording. but what do you think when you hear that, let them go forever. >> first of all, it amazing me that russians are speaking in the clear like this. this is horrific discipline. the ukrainian intelligence service has become very good at picking this up and using that. but the stuff we're hearing is just -- it's horrific. first of all, it's not a professional military when you think about it. military soldiers in the west are trained to go after military targets, not to go after civilians, not to kill unnecessarily. and we're hearing the exact opposite out of the russian troops that are currently active in ukraine. so it's shocking on a bunch of different levels, really. >> i want to get your reaction. you see the satellite images of the mass graves and the terror that unfolded, surrounding ukraine. how will these russians be brought to justice? how does that happen? will they be brought to justice? >> if you look at the war in bosnia, there is a prospect there will be people in leadership positions that will be brought to justice. but the concern is that those leadership positions tell an 18 or 20-year-old that what they're doing is appropriate. steve is dead on. this says a lot about how the russian military is operating. in a professional situation, an 18 or 20-year-old is going to say, the enemy is a horrible maybe person, but maybe a horrible animal, unless they're led by leadership to say in wartime, we don't characterize the adversary as animals. this tells you what the russian leadership is all about. it's a corrupt leadership that tells youth that it's appropriate to think of somebody as an ex-pendable animal. it's incredible, don. >> phil, steve, thank you very much. i want to turn now to the latest military in ukraine. good evening, colonel. let's start with mariupol, shall we? what options does ukraine have to keep that city? are there any, really? is it gone? >> well, it's practically gone. the options are limited to none. what you have, this is where the plant is the iron and steel works is right here. basically right on the coast, has its own docking area and everything. it's surrounded on all of these sides by the russians on land, and then also the sea approaches are taken care of by the russian presence, naval presence in that area. so there's practically no way to do this. i know that president zelenskyy has said he wants to bring in big guns to basically shoot their way out of this. there's no way that can happen. there's no way to get big guns into this situation right now. they are in essence, surrounded unfortunately. >> can you talk about the conditions at that steel plant where ukrainian forces are barricaded? if you are the russians trying to clear it out, what are you up against? >> well, that's a great question, because what you have is a whole bunch of buildings. this is after -- this is done on tuesday, after a lot of the destruction has occurred here. you take a look at this. this reminds me of stalin grad, the pictures from back in world war ii. all of these buildings right here are all areas in which urban warfare could take place. no wonder putin doesn't want his troops to be in this. this is just the above ground stuff. we're not talking about what's below ground here, where they have a capacity below ground of housing about 4,000 people. we believe there are 2,000 or less than that now, including soldiers, civilians, wounded as well as combat capable soldiers. so all of this is what they're up against. an old industrial area dating from the 1930s. this is one of those industrial projects that stalin put together, and it was responsible for about 12% of ukraine's steel shipments back just before the invasion. so this is a big, big prize for them. but from a combat perspective, this is one of the toughest environments they can go into. it's no wonder they want to surround it and in essence stafb it out. >> i'm interested in hearing about -- we learned today that new drone that the air force developed for ukraine, it's called the phoenix ghost drone. the pentagon says it provides similar capabilities to switchblade drones, they won't give away exactly what it can do. but what do you know about it? 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ivan says his friend was killed by russian shrapnel as she tried to escape the city. the cross bearing katia's name was made by his grand father who dug this shallow grave because they couldn't store the bodies at the hospital. >> translator: i can't take this well when i see this. i feel weak because i cannot do anything. >> reporter: ivan is 16 years old. in two months of war, he's witnessed the innocence of childhood die before his eyes. watching ivan makes you wonder how a teenage mind copes with the horror in front of him. his family says to understand, we must see what they experienced. i ivan's family never left this backyard shed for more than 30 days while russian troops occupied this city. his father and grandfather showed us how they survived on nothing but homemade bread. they would basically take the raw grain and grind it down into flour or a version of flour and make their own bread in this oven. that's what they lived on for more than a month. >> reporter: five adults and four children hid in this underground bunker. this is where ivan heard weeks of artillery blasts and cries for help. the sounds of war that will haunt survivors forever. >> translator: i slept here. my sister and my mom slept here, and another family slept here, too. we tried to curl up and sleep here together. sometimes when things got really scary, our dads could stay with us. >> reporter: ivan's grandfather says russian soldiers told him the family would be killed if they tried to escape. police say more than 50 people were killed here, many of them shot as they tried to run away. the death toll expected to climb. how frightening was this experience for you? >> translator: >> reporter: he's stoic as we talk about surviving the russian siege. but there's one question -- do you worry about your grandchildren witnessing this war? >> reporter: grandfather and father know their children will never be the same. why do you feel it was important to be here at this moment? >> translator: so people can see for themselves, the whole world should see how the russian world comes and kills civilians for nothing. >> when you get older, what do you think you'll remember about this moment and this day? >> reporter: i'll remember everything. i'll remember every day, and i will tell my children and my grandchildren, i will remember this all my life. >> reporter: he's a teenager two refuses to look away from the raw reality of this war. one of the things that weighs most on this family is they look around the city that they live in. they hear of so many people not surviving. they see the damage, and they sit there and they wonder how were they some of the lucky ones to be able to escape the horror the russian forces brought to their hometown? 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>> you certainly did. >> and you wrote that about the woman who would later become your wife? >> yes, i did. >> it's revolting. day three of this trial. how is johnny depp coming across? >> you know, it is revolting, and clearly he's troubled. but, you know, i don't think it's a one-way street here, honestly, don. look, he's come across as someone who is troubled, two has a need to express himself in the most vile way. you know, but as far as the damage being done on cross-examination, quite frankly, they're making -- obviously they're using depp's own words. but on the other hand, amber heard's own words will come back to haunt her in this trial. she's admitted on audio recordings that she hit him, that she started and escalated fights. so both are coming across as troubled people. the fact of the matter is, there should be some law in this country about hollywood actors marrying each other. it just seems to be a recurring theme. we have brad pitt and angelina, it's really sad to watch this. they have children, by the way. i mean, johnny has children any way. just to see this unfold in public is sad. it's a private -- really horrific thing. >> this isn't part of a divorce proceeding, but divorce is tough, breakups are tough, especially when it's public. i want to play something else that they said. again, the warning, i have to warn you about the language. here it is. >> on january 17th, 2013, mr. depp, you texted the following -- for the idiot cow three exclamation points. next text. will do. i'll smack the ugly [ bleep ] around before i let her in. don't worry. apologies again to the court and the jury for this language. and then you closed by saying, did that worthless hooker arrive. did i read that right? >> you did, sir. >> how do you think a jury will respond, especially yesterday when johnny depp was claiming amber heard was the agreser? >> look, those are words. i'm not trying to defend johnny depp here. i'm not. i don't know who to believe in this case. quite frankly, i think the truth lies in the middle. i think they are both cullable. amber heard has admitted to hitting and punching and physically abusing johnny depp. he clearly has cone the same. so i think this was a violent relationship. but this is a defamation lawsuit. part of this is going to be depp saying listen, you wrote this article in "the washington post," this op-ed and painted yourself to be a victim. nowhere did you mention you physically punched me and put a cigarette out on my face or severed a part of my finger. again, i'm not defending him. i don't know who to believe, but the truth lies in the middle, don. >> what do you think is going to happen when amber heard takes the stand, joe? >> more of the same. what you're seeing now -- look, i think she will be more -- not that johnny depp is not composed, but his words are vile words. clearly, he expressed himself, he clearly has a problem with substance abuse, alcohol, whatever it's going to be. he sounds ds drunk on half thes recordings. i think it will be more of the same. there are recordings of amber heard where she admitted to doing things to johnny depp that she wouldn't want played in public. so i think it's going to be more of the same. it's crazy that it was brought by johnny depp. this is a defamation lawsuit. he brought this knowing those things were out there. and knowing this was going to be part of the evidence received in this case. that's what is really troubling. don't forget, this is a first amendment case, right? he's considered a public figure. so in order for him to prevail in this case on a defamation case, there has to be a showing that there was actual malice. that amber heard made these statements, we're talking about that washington post statement with knowledge they were false and reckless and clearly they were not accurate. >> it's a very high standard. some of the testimony -- listen, he has a right to defend himself and bring this case, and some of the things you're hearing from both sides are disturbing. but, again, you don't know what's going to happen in this case. maybe he will set a precedent. joe, i have to ask you about this, because this is news, and it's very important news for country. you're representing kimberly guilfoyle. everyone knows she's donald trump jr.'s fiance, a former member of donald trump's presidential campaign. can you share anything about her meeting that happened with the january 6th commit any >> not really, except that it did happen. there was nine hours we spent in, you know, in washington. with members of the committee. and counsel. and she was asked questions for nine hours and she answered those questions honestly, truthfully, and there was really no fanfare. it was very uneventful and straightforward. it was quite frankly, they treated her with respect and she answered with respect. and it was much smoother than i anticipated it was going to go. every question they asked she answered truthfully. you know my position from this from day one, she has nothing to hide. she has no legal culpability in this whatsoever. so that's about it. >> so there was no contention and she answered willingly, didn't take the fifth or what have you? 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well, because disney, the state's largest employer, criticized the governor's education law restricting talking about lbgtq topics in classrooms. the law known as "don't say gay." joining me now is state senator chevron jones. thank you. i know you disagree with both bills. two districts happen to be represented by black democrats, now gone. opponents say there's likely to be a legal challenge. but really, is there any action that can be taken here? >> well, don, the checks and balances that have been put in place from our judicial system is what we have to wait for. the only thing we can do at this time. these unconstitutional maps that they know are unconstitutional. so much so they filed an amendment yesterday in the senate to ensure that they can only be channeled in the county courts. because they know it's going to court. so this is just the republican's attempt across the country and specifically in florida to test our judicial system just to see how far they can go. >> the house and the senate both passed maps that maintain the level of representatives by black lawmakers last month, but desantis vetoed it. what message does this send to black folks in your state from your own governor? >> well, it's the same consistent message he's shown since he filed hb-1, restricting and telling black folk how they can protest. since reconstruction, we only have had 11 congressional members in the state of florida. now we only have five. and now, these new happens, we will only have three black seats. the governor call it race neutral. we call it racist tactics. the governor knows what he's doing. so i'm happy with my colleagues in the house, what they did today. they took a stand against this politically driven special session we just came out of, considering the fact that the governor and my republican colleagues know what they're doing. they are stripping away the voices of black people in the state of florida and they continue to do it. they've been doing it for the fast three years. all the governor is doing is setting the stage up for trying to run for president. his way of running president is creating division and discourse. >> you guys, as democrats, you have to do something about it. we can talk more about that, but i have to get to the other side while i have you here. let's talk about disney. this bill is fully in retaliation for disney's criticism of don't say gay bill. desantis said, if disney wants to pick a fight, they chose the wrong guy. is it his state and you're just living in it? 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poisoned? seriously? the kremlin and russia security services, of course, deny they played any role navalny's poisoning. joining me now, the lead russia investigator at independent investigative outlet bellingcat. he worked closely with navalny and his team, on the investigation into the assassination attempt against him. we are so happy to have you here. this is very interesting story, despite being in prison, navalny is active on social media. this week, tweeting that russian forces killed a ukrainian man, simply because he had the same name. posting this video of navalny's -- ilia navalny's passport and tweeting, quote, everything indicates they killed him because of his last name. is this why this passport was -- cnn, by the way, can't independently confirm that but tell us -- that tells us a lot about russia's fears, what russia fears most, i should say. >> probably did not know that the person who was killed was a distant relative of him. they share a paternal-great grandfather. but what russia's been doing there is -- is not targeted individuals. i am not sure they were aware this was his relative but there is so much in common between his story and the story of this war. they basically boil down to the seem desire or same reluctance of putin to give up power, and i think both the assassination attempt on them and this war came from the same evil. >> you know, navalny has been speaking out against the war from predictive. are ordinary russians hearing what he has to say? z z . >> well, not all of them. he does have a very, very, very strong following. probably has 25 million people who follow everything he says on twitter and through other social media. he does that through a very special mix of being taibl able to talk to lawyers because russian government continue to prosecute for crimes. and the downside is he is able to pass on the messages to his lawyers. what -- what we have at the moment is he is the only politician because he is a politician who is anti-war. and this is an important place to be because, very soon, the russian' sentiment, the pro-war sentiment will be shifting toward as more and more soldiers -- at this point, we are seeing almost 20,000 dead soldiers, the mothers -- whose mothers are not even told they they are dead. so, navalny with his strong antiwar sentiment is going to be coming more and more popular among people who didn't care for him before. >> you know, you worked very closely with navalny and his team to investigate the assassination attempt against him. that investigation was very revealing. tha can you talk to us about what you uncovered? >> we uncovered industrial scale machine of killing opposition figures. we discovered that navalny had been tailed by an fsb team of poisoners, assassins and not two months, for nearly four years for the moment he announced his desire to run for president. literally, from the next week, he started being tailed by this assassination corps. so, the a first explosive finding from this investigation was it took four years to actually plot this murder or this attempted assassination. and then the question is, is he the only one? and we found that unit has actually committed actual assassinations following many other opposition figures. nobody as intently and long-term as alexander navalny. and find there is an industrial-killing machine in the 21st-century country today was probably the most shocking thing i have ever discovered. >> navalny is now serving more than 11 years in a russian penal colony. earlier in his imprisonment, i he narrowly survived a hunger strike. what do you think the future looks like for alexei navalny and his supporters, quite frankly? >> well, he knew what he was going for. he was perfectly open, wide-eyed about the fact that he is going to end up in jail for many years. i tried to dissuade him from going back to russia but he had to do that because the only place for a russian politician is back in russia. i was afraid, initially, they might finish the job in jail they couldn't finish in the hotel trying to poison and kill him. i think that risk has gone down now, because putin's underperformance, incompetence, cruelty in ukraine has actually led to the understanding among russian, evening among power elite in russia, that he cannot remain trusted in power in a year. so i don't think anyone will take instruction to poison navalny again, simply put poouten will not be there to protect them in about a year. i think what is happening with the war at at the moment is putting is setting himself up for becoming a pieia internationally but his own population. >> thank you, chris. we appreciate you joining us, you be well. be sure to tune into the all new cnn film "navalny" premieres sunday right here sunday on cnn. we thank you for watching.g. our live coverage contininues i just a moment with michael holmes. we now find that 85% of individual investors are interested in sustainable investing. among millennials, the interest is even stronger. ♪ one of the big trends in sustainable investing is data, and the ability to understand how sustainable your investments are. by taking that information into account, investors can make better decisions for the long term. sustainability is not about one number. it's about variables like water usage, data privacy, consumer trust, diversity, land use and conservation. all types of investors are now considering this in their investment decisions. this is not niche. one in four dollars globally is following some form of sustainable investing. with sustainable investing at this scale, there's power to change the markets and have an impact on the issues investors care about most. i am courtney thompson and we are morgan stanley. this is xfinity rewards. our way of saying thanks, with rewards for the whole family! from epic trips... to the original jurassic park... on us. join over 3 million members and start enjoying rewards like these, and so much more in the xfinity app! and don't miss jurassic world: dominion in theaters june 10th. this is cnn breaking news. >> hello and welcome to our viewers joining us from all around the world and in the united, i am michael holmes at the cnn sis center in atlanta. a sprawling steel factory in mariupol is all that remains of ukrainian forces defending the tra teenagic-port city. they are surrounded by russian troops, but have refused to surrender amid the nonstop shelling and gun battles. russian president vladimir putin has now ordered troops to impose a blockade that, quote, even a fly can't get through, rather than storm the facility. besides sheltering the ukrainian fighters, the kmeks has also been home to hundreds of men, women, and chirp children who are reportedly running out of food and water. th