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now, what is left of mariupol and the surrounding areas is reported to already be under russian control. the ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy has called the situation in that city inhuman. he says that the unrelenting russian assault makes any negotiations with russia unlikely. take a listen. >> the situation in mariupol remains as severe as possible, just inhuman. this is what the russian federation did, deliberately did, and deliberately continues to destroy cities. russia is deliberately trying to destroy everyone who is there in mariupol. >> now, russian forces have stepped up their attacks in eastern ukraine ahead of what is expected to be a major offensive. officials say two civilians were killed and 18 injured in a cruise missile strike in the north eastern city of kharkiv. we're also hearing reports of constant shelling in the region. the strikes follow the sinking of that russian warship in the black sea. now, the latest shipment of military aid from the u.s. has begun arriving in ukraine. for the first time the aid includes helicopters, drones, canons and other heavy-duty weapons. it is part of an $800 million package of security assistance to ukraine. >> russian forces are also hitting the uranian capital kyiv once again after a recent lull in attacks around kyiv. cnn correspondent matt rivers joins us now from lviv. matt, there has been a recent lull. we have seen those russian troops retreat from around the capital. and yet they continue to strike the outskirts. >> as we watch this offensive begin to really gear up in earnest in the eastern part of the country what we're seeing some russians do is continue to really make more isolated attacks in other parts of the country like kyiv as you mention and also targeting areas where i am in lviv. air-raid sirens once again ring out across kyiv saturday, a city that has endured so much damage and destruction from russian bombs once again hit. early saturday a russian missile slamming into a south eastern district of kyiv killing at least one person and injuring several others. the latest attack coming as more ukrainians are returning home. state border guard officials saying on saturday that roughly 32,000 ukrainians crossed back into the country in the previous hours, something that makes the mayor nervous. he says if you be the opportunity to stay a little longer in places that are safer, do so. i understand there is no place like home. nevertheless, the city of kyiv was and does remain the aggressor. air defense systems managed to shoot down missiles that were headed to one or more targets in this region. they didn't say exactly what those were, but said the missiles were fired by war planes that had taken off from neighboring belarus. this as ukraine's military says it's watching the ramp up. the sooner we get all the weapons we've requested, the stronger our opposition will be and the sooner there will be peace. peace, though, elusive in the city of kharkiv. ukraine's second largest city has been under constant bombardment in recent days including here. at least two people were killed and 18 injured, a scene likely to be repeated many times over in the coming weeks as russia's renewed offensive in the east ramps up. and today all eyes will be on what is going on in mariupol. the russians as you reported off the top had laid down an ultimatum saying as of 4 minutes ago all resistance fighters, ukrainian resistance fighters in mariupol needed to lay down their arms and surrender. the defense was going to continue and the russians acknowledging now that they heard the ukrainian's rejection of that ultimatum with the russian ministry of defense putting outa statement that said in part, quote, in case of further resistance which it seems there will be, all of them so it does appear the siege of mariupol is going on and we should note there remains some tens of thousands of just ordinary civilians in mariupol that have not been able to leave as of today. no evacuation corridors were agreed upon between ukrainians and russians meaning there is no way to leave mariupol in a way that could be of any scale, which means all these civilians continue to be trapped in some of the worst conditions imaginable. >> yeah, the russians on the cusp there taking that key strategic city in the south. matt rivers, thanks so much for that report. now, tens of thousands of refugees are trying to escape the fighting in ukraine, and they have fled to estonia. >> cnn correspondent scott mcclain joins us now from estonia. we spend a lot of time focusing on refugees fleeing into poland by the millions, but now estonia is playing a role. what do you see? >> that's right, alex. they've taken in more than 30,000 refugees. that may not sound like a whole lot but remember the population of this country is only 1.3 million so it's actually more than 2% of the population right now is a ukrainian refugee. of course, estonians want to help ukraine just like many other countries around the world want to help, but they also have plenty in common. they both have large russian speaking populations, and they've also lived for decades now with the constant threat of russian aggression looming over their heads. of course the big difference now is that estonia is a member of the european union and also a member of nato, and so now it defts from those protections. estonia now, though, despite being a small country is pushing other european countries, other nato countries to beef up their own military spending and aid to ukraine. he was with the president of poland and the president's other baltic states as well, he went to kyiv and came back with plenty of ideas how to best support ukraine going forward. the challenge, of course, is where to put all of these ukrainian refugees who have come here. a good number, a large percentage of those coming here have places to stay, family or friends or had their homes opened up to them by ordinary estonian strangers. many others have been put up at hotels at government expense, and some of them people have been moved actually onto a large cruise ship just to save the government a bit of money. they're braced to potentially take in 2 1/2 times the number they've already taken in. and the reason why, though, is because estonia is attractive because of its large russian speaking population and also attractive for a lot of people because they had 30,000 ukrainian working here even before the war began. >> all right, scott mcclain in the estonian capital, thank you very much. all right, let's bring in a reporter for politico in europe. thanks so much for joining us this morning. so we heard from matt rivers at the top of our show regarding russia's ultimatum, that that u ultimatum has been rejected by ukraine. we know there's about 100,000 people who remain in mariupol and that there are no evacuation corridors right now so there are many people who are trap. what's the expectation as to what is going to happen next? >> the ukrainians are preparing for an all out assault of mariupol. at this point for vladimir putin, the russian president basically to stay safe and be able to claim a win at home, he's going to need to take maur yo mariupol. this is the last city standing in the way of a land bridge between crimea and donbas. it's really important. so if putin is able to take it, he's able to effectively stop a lot of exports leaving ukraine, a lot of imports coming into ukraine by sea and means he's able to claim a win at home. so the expectation on all counts is that it's going to be a siege. and certainly what the russians have said is that they'll take that city regardless of who stands in their way. >> so you just talked about the significance of the capture of mariupol. i mean, putin -- i guess a big question is will he stop there, right? >> at this point that is the real question. i think that is the minimum he needs in order to be able to claim a win at home. but certainly if we do see some sort of cease-fire, my expectation and the expectation when you talk to people who are kremlin watchers who understand the situation on the ground in russia as well as in the region, they know that any sort of cease-fire would be temporary. so my expectation would be if putin is able to take mariupol perhaps we might see some short-term cessation of some of those intense bombings, of some of that intense civilian casualties we're seeing in ukraine, but that would just be leaving time for putin to regroup and come back in, and do some of the rest of the job he's been wanting to finish. >> and that leads me to the next question because we heard in the most recent address from the ukrainian president, president volodymyr zelenskyy, that they need heavy weaponry and pushing the west for more. how would that help especially when it comes to pushing russia towards peace? >> it's basically what the ukrainians need in order to be able to defend some of their cities and particularly when you look at some of the cities like kharkiv, which is another one the russians want to take when you look at mariupol, basically mariupol is effectively surrounded. the ukrainians are saying what we need is heavy weaponry. if you won't give us jets, if you won't create a no-fly zone, let us create a no-fly zone of our own in order to protect our civilians and in order to protect some of these really vulnerable cities. so certainly that heavy weaponry would be effective, and in terms of negotiations, peace talks. i think what everyone needs to realize, what the west needs to realize, what many in eastern europe have known all along is that any peace talks you have with vladimir putin are worthless effectively because he doesn't stick to the sorts of agreements he makes. it's not the sort of negotiation you have in good faith where you've got two sides willing to make concessions and to stick to the sorts of terms they sign-in those agreements. so any sort of weakness or perceived weakness from ukraine or from the west will be usualized by putin and any sort of perceived strength will help ukrainians defend their territory and their people. >> you're right, there is no good faith coming from russia even the way the war started with putin continually denying an invasion was imminent right before it happened. and lastly, we know finland and sweden they're likely to join nato, and it's important to point out these are two historically neutral countries. they were not on track to join nato three months ago, and we know this is exactly the opposite of what putin demanded before the war began, before he started the war which was a nato expansion. so obviously it would be a major strategic blunder for putin if that indeed happens. how would putin respond to the possibility of two nato -- two new nato nations right at his doorstep? >> this is a seismic shift. i think it's really worth highlighting the fact that -- the fact that finland and sweden are entering into these sorts of talks, the fact they're saying they may be making their application in weeks this is really an earthquake in terms of the geopolitical landscape. finland and sweden have been neutral for a long time. in part for finland at least it's largely because of the fact it shares a giant border with russia, so up until very recently the thinking was we best not antagonize russia, let's stay neutral, let's stay out of nato. this is exactly what he said he was trying to prevent. he said the reason he wanted to go into ukraine was because nato was moving its border closer to him. ukraine really didn't have a choice of joining nato and still probably doesn't. finland has a very good chance of joining nato and shares a big border with putin directly. it's a huge loss and in terms of what sort of reaction we might see for putin, this is going to be a really difficult thing for him to explain to the public. luckily for him he has a very pliant media landscape so he's able to spin it in the way he likes. he's already threatened finland directly and said if anyone joins nato we'll have to respond to that, but the bottom line is once again putin is not the sort of person whose word you can count on, and the only thing he's responded to in the past is might. so the fact finland and sweden might join is -- >> we'll leave it there. thank you so much. and be sure to watch "state of the union" this morning at 9:00 for jake tapper's full interview with the ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy. and coming up next, north korea says it is boosting its nuclear capabilities. we'll be bringing you more on the pyeongyang test of a new weapon that has put south korea on edge. and later, executives in the twitter boardroom are taking extreme measures to block elon musk's potential take over of the company. we'll explain that. ® hydro boost lightweight. fragrancnce-free. 48 hour hydration. for that healthy s skin glow. neutrogena®. for people with skinin. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ voltaren. the joy of movement. 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north korea has test fired what it describes as a new type of missile. south korea says pyeongyang launched two projectiles saturday that fell east of the korean peninsula. >> north korean state media has released these photos of the country's leader, kim jong-un, who observed the missile test, which it has called a new type of guided weapon that will help boost north korea's nuclear capabilities. cnn's senior international correspondent, will rippley, is live in the capital of taiwan, taipei. this is the 12th nuclear test from north korea this career. >> reporter: look, they've been testing a lot of weapons at an unprecedented pace really starting in january. when gym kung unsaid he was going to walk away from this moratorium. so now you have u.s. and south korean joint military exercises due to kick off tomorrow. north korea often will launch weapons to let their displeasure be known when the u.s. and south korean militaries are working together, but this launch when they're talking about potentially a nuclear capable tactical guided weapon it could indicate a nuclear test could be coming on the horizon. in fact, the united states has indicated such as looking at satellite images of activity at the nuclear test site. this launch also comes on the heels of a major week of celebrations inside north korea. the grand finale of north korea's biggest holiday celebration. the country launched a new tactical guided weapon observed by its leader kim jong-un a show of force to mark the 110th birthday of the country's founder and kim's grandfather. the show in the sky followed an extravagant parade on the ground. on friday his top aides including his sister watched columns of performers pass by. this latest launch not entirely unexpected by experts after the country conducted a powerful intercontinental ballistic missile test in march, though some experts now question north korea's claim the launch in march was a new missile saying it was actually an older model. the 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kind of like a hotel. can you believe she's going to be 80 next year, guys. and while she doesn't do the news bulletin for north korea anymore she still comes up for major events. when she appears on-screen people in north korea stand at attention and certainly journalists covering north korea also stand at attention. so if pops up over the next few days or weeks and starts to talk we're going to be listening very carefully because she may be talking about -- the united states is worried about potential more provocative testing from north korea including that potential nuclear test. >> for sure a familiar face and voice to many around the world. coming up rising shortages -- i'm sorry, rising costs i should say, labor shortages and supply chain issues are impacting just about every american. and if you own a home the items you'll most likely be paying more foror next. neuriva plus fuels six key indicators of brbrain performan. more brain performance?? yes, please! neuriva. think 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what is he working onto try to get those approval ratings out of the basement? >> yeah, well he's got a number of different problems. good morning, alex. among other things he's got even within those numbers some problems within those problems. his standing with latino voters is very, very low, down in 24% i think was the number i last saw. that's not going to be good, and there's not a lot he can do to turn that around either. the other big factor he's fighting against is history itself because the president's party tends to lose a number of seats in the mid-terms. with all of that working against him what can he do? look, he can go back to his program. the pieces of the build back better legislation he failed to get passed, he might be able to do some of it by executive order. and certainly members of the democratic party have been urging him to do just that, to show it means something to have him in the white house as opposed to someone else. that's one way trying to to stop the bleeding. of course when it comes to international affairs we've given lots of coverage to what's going on with russia. the reality is those are entirely beyond his control. showing the kind of strength and leadership of a nato reliance he has over the last few months at least shows this is somebody who can occupy the office and do some of the basics needed. will that turn around inflation, no. will that turn around his numbers? perhaps it might turn around some of the erosion. make no mistake the president is in a difficult political position. >> let's talk about republicans running for senate in november. the consensus seems to be the republicans have a much better chance of taking back the house than the senate. we've got a number of races in pennsylvania and ohio. one of the key things the republicans want is that maga stamp of approval from president trump. and now we have president trump backing jd vance in the ohio senate race and memit ozotherwise known as dr. oz to americans in the pennsylvania senate race. why is he backing these two men? >> well, what they've mostly done is been media stars, honestly. there's no program you can point to, no philosophy they have in common you can point to. memit oz appears to be pro-abortion as far as i can tell. it's not much more complicated than that to be honest with you, same with jd vance. if you're a media star donald trump tends to like you and thinks you have a chance to win. this is not necessarily going to work out i should say for all of these candidates. to the extent they want donald trump's support in order to win the republican primary in those states, that's one thing. winning in the general is going to be a whole other kettle of fish. and the reality is the president is somewhat controversial to say the least and may not be as much help to them as they imagine once november rolls around. if you want to make donald trump the main issue in your race in a general election in these mid-terms, i think you're doing it sort of at your own peril. >> some of the key moments if we look ahead to the presidential race in 2024 some of the key moments of course come during the debates between the candidates not just in the primaries, of course, but then in the general election. and those debates are put on by a bipartisan group called the commission on presidential debates. now we have the republican national committee voting unanimously last week to withdraw from this commission. what kind of impact do you think that has on the next presidential race? >> well, look, it's an okay outcome, frankly. the group the presidential debates have needed some kind of renovation both structurally and in terms of content for a long, long time. it's not being done necessarily for the right reason. this is almost entirely at the behest of those who want to support donald trump who believe that the debates were biased against him in 2020 and that contributed to his loss. that's not necessarily true, but it is believed to be true. and so they're trying to undermine the participation with the existing debate committee. i think what's going to happen, though, is if donald trump for some reason does not become the candidate of the republican party in 2024, it's his to lose or give away. but he might not run. and if he doesn't it's possible they may come crawling back and saying you know what, we'd like to be part of these very large televised debates. it's also worth noting just as a matter of history that we haven't always had presidential debates. you know, the first one was in 1960, and then we went a couple of cycles without them. there was no johnson versus gold water debate in '64. and nixon never debated many of his candidates in '72. so the republic will survive. i think, though, what donald trump is trying to avoid ironically which is the supposed bias of this commission, if he wants to leave it up to the media to provide all the coverage in 2024, he may not get the kind of coverage he's looking for. >> thanks for your expertise. thanks for joining us. well, twitter's board has spoken and it doesn't want elon musk to buy the social media site, so what does this mean for twitter's future? 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>> well, happy easter. this is not a very calm weekend for the bankers that stand to make a lot of money from this deal. they are working very actively as is the twitter board of directors. and as for elon musk i don't think we ever really know what his next step is, that he is famously unpredictable, he may double down, triple down on his plan, do whatever it takes to buy twitter or he might just move onto the next thing and find some other toy to play with. that is what makes him so combustible and unpredictable and so beloved by his fans and so criticized by other detractors. but, look, i think right now we're in a wait and see mode. we might only be in the second or third inning of this where musk has made his bid. the twitter board has not officially rejected it yet. they may insert this poison pill but that doesn't necessarily stop him, it may slow him down. what we're going to find out in this coming week how serious musk is in buying twitter. >> you say he could double down or triple down. is this a case he could offer a much higher price if the board rejected it would be a dereliction of their duty? >> right, oftentimes a poison pill is a negotiating tactic. it's an anti-hostile takeover move that a board and businesses frequently go ahead and do, but it doesn't always stop the bidder. it just slows them down. it might force them to the negotiating table, and that might be the strategy here to get a conversation going between musk and the twitter board to come up with some sort of resolution. we really don't know because we really don't know what was driving musk here. he was on twitter this weekend thanking his fans and suggesting he really is committed to this. with elon musk it could all just be a joke. that's the wild thing about this. investors don't seem to believe he's all that into this. the stock did not move on thursday that suggests it's going to go through. i think we're in a wait and see mode. but knowing elon musk he may very well watch all this news coverage, read comments from his fans on twitter and decide hoomust go through with this or walk away. >> he clearly loves twitter and really believes it has such a critical part in our dialogue, which many of us do. brian stelter, thanks so much for joining us this morning. and be sure to tune in later this morning. brian is going to have a lot more on all of this and more on his show, reliable sources, that's at 11:00 a.m. eastern time right here on cnn. well, the nba playoffs are here, and so much for experience meaning anything. the biggest stars of the day were guys making their playoff debuts. inging] oven roasted cocooold cuts cooold cututs my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis... ...the itching... the burning. the stinging. my skin was no longer mine. emerge tremfyant®. with tremfya®... ...most people saw 90% clearer skin at 16 weeks. the majority of people saw 90% clearer skin even at 5 years. tremfya® is the first medication of its kind also approved for adults with active psoriatic arthritis. and, it's six doses a year, after two starter doses. serious allergic reactions may occur. tremfya® may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms or if you had a vaccine or plan to. emerge tremfyant® with tremfya®. ask your doctor about tremfya® today. i was injured in a car crash. i had no idea how much my case was worth. i called the barnes firm. when a truck hit my son, i had so many questions about his case. i called the barnes firm. it was the best call i could've made. your case is often worth more than insuran call the barnes firm to find out i could've made. what your case could be worth. we will help get you the best result possible. ♪ the barnes firm, injury attorneys ♪ call one eight hundred,est resul eight million ♪ are you a christian author with a book that you're ready to share with the world? 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