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philadelphia. and good saturday morning, it is april 16th, i'm alex marquardt in today for boris sanchez. >> i'm christi paul, thank you for spending time with us this morning. let's talk about what is happening first. explosions on the outskirts of the ukrainian capital and a claim of success. ukraine anti-aircraft systems downed four russian cruise missiles fired at the lviv region this morning. missiles were fired by russian aircraft that had taken off from nabing belarus. >> the mayor of kyiv said that his capital city came under fire this morning. there is no word yet on casualties but the images that you're looking are from the earlier devastation. and the mayor is warning residents to not come back to the city yet, telling them to stay in places that are safe. and volodymyr zelenskyy said this is a source of great pain. here is what he told jake tapper about the toll that the war is taking on him and on the country. >> translator: i have to watch as the present of the state where a lot of people have died and lost their loved ones and there are millions of people who want to live. all of us want to fight but we all have to do our best for this war not to be endless. >> we'll have a bit more of that interview later on. now president zelenskyy said the world should be prepared for the possibility that vladimir putin could use tactical nuclear weapons in ukraine. and as i mentioned, we'll have more of that interview coming up ahead. >> new military aid meanwhile, including helicopters is set to arrive in ukraine within the coming hours here. the aid includes more heavy duty sophisticated weapons than previous shipments. russia is protesting the u.s. shipments of weapons to ukraine and in a diplomatic note russia warns of quote unpredictable consequences if this continues. cnn is covering all angles of the crisis. we begin with matt rivers in lviv this morning. matt? >> reporter: overnight, woken up here in lviv, around 5:45 a.m. local time to air raid sirens goes on. in regards to what you mentioned off the top, what we're hearing from the ukrainian official is that russia fired four cruise missiles into the lviv region with a target somewhere in this area but not specifying if they know exactly what the targets were to be but saying that anti-aircraft systems employed by ukraine managed to shoot them down launched they say from russian planes that took off from air bases just across the boardner the neighboring country of belarus. now that is not the only area of ukraine that saw an attack or an attempted attack overnight. in kyiv, also one missile striking a southeastern district of this that city and the outskirts and in the last few minutes we heard from kyiv's mayor who said that at least one person has been killed but that medical crews and rescue personnel still going through the rubble of some buildings is that were destroyed as a result of the strike. the strikes are not a huge surprise if you listen to what russians have been saying over past few days. they have said that they will continue to strike what they call decision-making centers throughout ukraine even as we wait for the expected offensive to begin in the coming days in the eastern part of the country. >> and matt, we've seen horrific scenes across the country and in the kyiv region as russian troops have pulled back and now we're hearing from ukraine officials that hundreds of bodies have been found around kyiv. what more do you know? >> reporter: yeah, according to the head of kyiv's regional police, more than 900 bodies, alex, have been discovered since russian forces have withdrawn. all of the bodies being forensically examined and as those examinations continue what we're hearing from ukrainian officials is that many bodies are just ordinary civilians, not members of military. many of them show signs of torture and many of them have gunshot wounds to the head and some had their hands bound. so the scenes that we've seen in places like bucha for example, seemingly played around the kyiv region as ukrainian officials continue to get a better understanding of the brutality that they say russian forces engaged in during their time occupying northern ukraine before they withdrew in the last few weeks. >> and ukrainian noofficials ha called that the tip of the iceberg. matt rivers in lviv, thank you very much. let's talk about poland. they're faced the largest influx of refugees. we have seen so many of these scenes that they were -- they've been ongoing but as of today, but what are you seeing there today, selma? >> reporter: so i'm bringing you from a train station here that is right up on the border. an this is essentially considered a welcome center for refugees. a place where they come, where they arrive and yes they've reached safety and their greeted by people in jackets who want to answer their questions and give them a sense of calm, a sense of safety and they really make this very chaotic scene around me work. i'm going to introduce you to one of them she's hear from germany. you came a few days ago. why did you decide to come? >> there is a need for the people. practically for food but also internally. jesus christ is their hope. this is what touches the people and now we want to share why jesus died on the cross for us and how he resurrected. >> and you're not home with your family on easter, it is an important holiday for you. >> yes. >> tell me why you made that decision and how you explain to mom and dad you're not going to be there. >> oh, yeah, my parents are completely okay with it. they love jesus as well. and they know how important it is to share this hope and ete eternal salvation and in the easter days i want to be with the people to show them what they mean with the love of jesus. >> thank you so much. and you could see all around pe here, there are volunteers that are handing out candy to little kids and this 19th century building around me and yes people will be here for this holiday. and these volunteers want to make sure that they're able to give them some sense of calm when they arrive. >> salma abdulaziz, thank you very much. we appreciate it. >> with russian's war losses mounting, ukraine's president is warning that moscow may resort to tactical nuclear weapons. the president of ukraine raising that possibility in an interview with our jake tapper. take a listen. >> the director of the cia warned that he's worried putin might use a tactical nuclear weapon in this fight. are you worried? >> not only me. i think all of the world, all of the countries have to be worried. because you know that it can be not real information, but it can be the truth. because when they begin to speak about one or another battles or involved enemies or nuclear weapons or some chemical issues, chemical weapons they should do it, they could do it. they can. for them, life of the people mean nothing. that is why. we should think not to be afraid. i mean not be afraid. be ready. but that is not the question to ukraine. and not only for the ukrainians, for all of the world, i think so. >> and jake will be sharing more of that exclusive interview on "state of the union" tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. right here on cnn. kimberly dozier with us now. it is good to get your perspective here. i want to jump off that point that we just saw partly from jake tapper's interview with president zelenskyy. we know president putin now warning the u.s. if they continue to supply aid to particularly military aid and arms to ukraine, that there will be, quote, unpredictable consequences. what do you think russia may be prepared to do to the u.s.? >> i certainly think they might be prepared to attack some of the shipments coming in over the border from poland. if they can determine which ones they are. but again, that is potentially he is callatory for them -- they could risk hitting somebody inside of poland at the border and then risk of accused of attacking a nato country triggering article 5. no one wants to get into a full confrontation between nato and russia. no one in nato does. so this could be just more saber rattling on moscow's part. part of it meant nor domestic, when they mark the victory over the nazi's in world war 2, putin wants something to announce, but if he doesn't get the victory that his generals have promised him in some manner, shape or form by then, he might be doing something like explaining to his people why this is expanding from a special military operation to a war. if he does something like that, well then widening attacks on those incoming shipments could be part of his package. >> the kyiv mayor said that the ukrainian capital came under fire this morning. still waiting to hear about any potential casualties there. but a lot of people have been watching this and wondering this -- if president zelenskyy is assassinated which russia said is one of their goals, how does the world react to that? because people watch what is happening, they feel like more should be done for the ukrainian people and to help shore up ukraine, but if they go so far as to assassinate its president surely the world can't sit back? >> well, it is interesting that i've heard from europe and baltic diplomats is they think putin has been careful not to harm zelenskyy after initially hoping to quote/unquote take him out. because he's become such an international figure that the blowback against moscow would be huge. and also it would make zelenskyy a martyr that would sustain his country's continued fight against moscow. one of the military reasons that moscow might be continuing to shell or lob artillery and rocket fire at kyiv is to keep some of the ukrainian army tied up defending that city as opposed to joining the ukrainian military forces who are already garrisoned, tens of thousands of them in eastern ukraine near the donbas. because the russians are facing a tough fight there. they have to close something like 300 miles of territory from north to south if they want to cut off that part of the country. and every single ukrainian unit that comes and joins that fight is going to make it that much harder for russian troops to do. >> so kimberly, what are you hearing from military leaders, what is their gauge of russian capabilities at this point and do they believe it to be accurate? >> the russians have a lot of military fire power. a lot of equipment. they don't have the personnel to run that equipment. they seem to be having trouble massing forces that they pulled a lot of the forces out from places like kyiv and have been bringing them around to the town of belgorod inside of russia where they're supposed to come in and join the fight. but every military analyst and official that i've talked to have said they're puzzled by the fact that it is taking the russians a long time to get all of the forces it needed into position for the next big push. that could be because the russian military is so demoralized that some of the troops won't or can't fight because of injury, et cetera. and that is also probably why you see the russians doing a call up, including trying to bring back retired soldiers for cash to man this fight, christi. >> kimberly dozier, your voice is so valued here. thank you for taking the time this morning. >> thank you. now new more sophisticated weapons are about to start arriving in ukraine as early in the coming hours. new the new tools that the pentagon is sending to the ukrainian military come as mid warnings of a major russian offensive in the country in the coming days. plus neighbors are now being forced to trade with each other basic necessities going back and forth during strict lockdowns in parts of chinese city of shanghai. we'll be getting a firsthand account of life under those strict lockdowns coming up. and the spring travel surge is in full swing but airline worker shortages are leading to hundreds of flight cancellations. the steps that the nation's air 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ukrainian missiles did hit the russian warship causing it to sink in the black sea. >> and within the next few hours, the latest shipment of u.s. weapons could start arriving in ukraine. and when you look at the list of what ukraine shas asked for and what the u.s. is offering and providing and it is clear why russia wants the weapons shipments to stop. so far the biden administration has provided ukraine with over $3 billion of military aid and the weapons being sent now are the biggest and most sophisticated yet. >> reporter: with russian's war against ukraine about entering the third month, the battlefield has changed significantly. the region around the capital kyiv is quieter for now. but u.s. and nato officials warn that a dramatic escalation by russia is coming. with that shift and escalation, the needs for weapons are changing and growing. this week the biden administration announced a weapons package worth $800 million. with new and more sophisticated systems. >> some of them are reinforcing capabilities that we've already been providing ukraine and some of them are new capabilities that we've not provided to ukraine. >> and among the bigger items are helicopters, 11 of them, which the u.s. redirected from afghanistan to ukraine. small drones called switchblades, 300 of them also called kamikaze killer drones that could target russian soldiers and armored vehicles. and for the first time, howitzers which fire artillery at long range targets. ukraine is being sent 18 with 40,000 rounds of ammunition. the list goes on and includes coastal sea drones to defend against the ships in the black sea. 200 armored personnel carriers, counter artillery readers and help from nuclear attacks and thousands more javelin an stinger missiles to use against russian tanks and aircraft. countless russian armors vehicles have been destroyed by weapons provided by nato countries. ukrainian forces have been able to repel russian advances. >> i think what they're offering is fair. you give us weapons and we sacrifice our lives and the war is contained in ukraine. >> reporter: but ukraine said it needs more. >> we are grateful for what we've already been given. we need helicopters, planes, powerful weapons, howitzers. we need a lot. >> reporter: a point of contention with u.s. is over fighter jets. ukraine wants them while the bo biden administration is worried that russia will take that as too much of a provocation. moscow has warned it would target weapons heading into ukraine and this week sent a protest letter to washington over the growing weaponry being sent. but the state department said friday, that nothing will dissuade the u.s. from continuing its support. >> now president volodymyr zelenskyy has expressed his frustration about the question of weapons and in an interview when western leaders asked him when he needs and he said he needs to calm himself because he's already told those western leaders what he needs to fight russia. he said it is like 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>> so what happened is that our compound was locked even earlier than march 24th because of a case in another building. at first we could order food online and it wasn't a problem. we foresee a lockdown coming but we didn't realize that the lockdown would entail complete shut down of supermarkets and grocery stores. so didn't really stock up on food. so when they lockdown the dome, people in the other side of the river that had four days warning, they raided supermarkets and grocery stores, right. we don't have that luxury. so we had enough food. we never run out of calories or we're over calories but we got restricted on our choices. so what happened is that for many days during the lockdown, and even after, we would spend a lot of time searching for any time of food available and if we found something, we would buy anything that would look edible, we would buy sometimes we would buy much more than we need, but we didn't know when the situation was going to be better. so we just kept on buying. >> you've been posting videos of the times that you've been able to leave the house. we've just been playing some of that video. i think you were on your bicycle. just remarkable scenes of empty streets. i mean not a soul out there. no cars or anything. so what is it like when you're actually able to leave your home? describe what your feeling out there, but also what the restrictions are and the expectations of you when you're outside. >> so, just to be clear, i have a special -- i have a special compensation for my manager to pick up medicines at a nearby clinic. they were also locked down for a while. so when i go out, and the reason that i got some special dispenization because first of all i own a bike so it means i would not get into a vehicle or transportation even very few buses are running. but nobody in my compound wants to risk any if you positive cases that might extend people's lockdown here because i'm also going to a clinic to pick up medicine, cycling there and coming back directly, i'm allowed to do that once a week. and those are my friday morning runs. and i hope it doesn't rain too hard on the only day that i could get out. so far so good. >> and these are some of the most restrictive, some of the most strict measures that we've seen anywhere in the world. can you speak about the frustration even the anger that you have heard about in shanghai that you've experienced yourself in speaking with fellow residents under lockdown? >> the frustration is at an all-time high. things are getting slowly better. so some restaurants like people were celebrating that kfc opened for a while so people could order food from some fast food joints. most people wouldn't eat there regularly, but anything different is now very precious. so people are very frustrated. and of course in the circle that i run, people are very frustrated. but the real residents, the ones that are suffering are the ones without a voice. the poor, the migrants, the ones that come here to work and usually they might share a room with many other people which is okay in the usual circumstances, so people could just stay as near as possible to send somebody home. but now everybody may be locked down together and, again, the frustration, the fact that the rules have changed a lot as well. that people didn't realize everything that the lockdown would entail, that also led to a lot of general frustration. from the poorest to the richest. >> well professor, thank you so much for offering your perspective on this fascinating situation in shanghai. professor rodrigo zeddon in shanghai, thank you so much. >> thank you, alex. well new york is honoring jackie robinson in a way that only the city and times square can. we have more on a special anniversary. that is next. 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