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we fight like hell and if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore. >> we're going to the capitol. so let's walk down pennsylvania avenue. >> wait. there is more. last night trump made it clear people who heeded his call to action on january 6th might actually get away with it. >> if i run and if i win, we will treat those people from january 6th fairly. we will treat them fairly. and if it requires pardons, we will give them pardons, because they are being treated so unfairly. >> yes. he is ready to abuse presidential pardon powers once again. this time to let supporters know they'll receive a get out of jail free card for january 6th and perhaps for whatever may come next. that's not a campaign promise, though. that's more like a dictator's decree. yes. america. the coup is still happening. joining me now, president pro tem of the united states senate and member. judiciary committee, democrat patrick leahy of vermont. senator leahy, does this sound like a threat to you coming from the former president? >> it sounds definitely like a threat. i cannot believe i would ever hear this from somebody running for office or in office. i was a prosecutor for eight years. to think that somebody would run for a high office and say, you can conduct any kind of criminal contact you want. don't worry. if you're doing it to support me, i'm give you a pard on wheni get there. you know, as prosecutor, i'd say, this has to be, somebody's making this up. it couldn't be real. and yet when you were there on january 6th, as i was, look out and i see them putting a noose up to hang the vice president, if he didn't throw the election out. i see people storming through, i could smell the tear gas, could see the -- i could see the damaged windows. beautiful parts of the capitol had been damage and seeing people say we're doing this because donald trump told us to. this is not a democracy. this is something that you'd see in a third world nation with a two- two-bit dictator. >> trying to make comeback sounds like and we did hear from a couple republican senators reacting to trump the remarks. not exactly full-throated condemnation. let's watch. >> i think it's inappropriate. i don't want to reinforce defiling the capitol was okay. i don't want to do anything that would make this more likely in the future. i want to deter what people did january 6th and those who did it hope they go to jail and get the book thrown at them, because they deserve it. >> i do not think that the president should have made, president trump should have made that pledge to do pardons. we should let the judicial process proceed. >> i know you don't want to necessarily criticize your republican colleague there's in the senate, but that was not exactly a profile encouraged moment. senator, do you think you're going to see anything more from your republican colleagues when it comes to defending our democracy and condemning this thuggish dictator-like behavior we're seeing from trump at these rallies? i think you have to have people stand up and vote. we saw that after watergate with richard nixon. you'd have people ranging barry goldwater to mike mansfield. from right to the left saying, this is wrong. i mean, as i said. i was a prosecutor for eight years. when somebody commits a crime, or incites crime, that's wrong. i don't care if they're republicans or democrats. what the former president has done, no question he incited a riot last year, and there's no question they want to keep on encouraging it. can you imagine saying, look, don't worry. you go out and commit whatever crimes you want, if it's helping me get elected, if i get elected, i'm take care of you. i'll take care of you. i'll -- i'll -- i'll give you a pardon. now, that's something nobody, republican or democrat, should accept. i mean, that is -- third world baloney. >> yeah. absolutely. let's talk about president biden's looning supreme court pick. i think a lot of viewers, a lot of americans, are bracing for mitch mcconnell to try to figure out a way to block another democratic president's nominee. what assurances can you give that that won't happen this time? do you think that we won't see that happen this time? do you think mcconnell, you know, knows that the jig is up and folks are sort of on to what he's been up to over these last several years with supreme court picks? >> of course, everybody saw the outrageous blocking of the constitutional process in blocking merrick garland, and unfortunately, mitch mcconnell was able to do it because he had a number of republicans who had stated earlier, oh, yeah. merrick would about good person, easily vote for him and lockstep in blocking, even having a vote. if you don't like somebody, then vote them up or vote them down. but what we saw there diminished the supreme court, certainly damaged the u.s. senate, and the, you could see the hypocrisy when he ran through a supreme court nominee within days of the next election, which president biden won. so i know -- i think it would be very hard for him to block this. i think what the american public would say, you can't do this. and i would hope that the supreme court, and those on it, would not be in favor of something like this, because it is diminishing the supreme court. it's losing the supreme court, losing its credibility. it's down the polls now in a way i never thought i'd see, because they see it as being political. not non-partisan. i think any leader of any party, republican or democratic, to try to politicize the supreme court is wrong. i know some of the names that president biden is looking at. they're all superb nominees. they are people that in normal time would go through very, very easily. and bring the nominee up and have a hearing. justice breyer gave us all plenty of advance notice. >> right. i was going to ask about that. hearing republicans go on the attack over president biden's announcement he would name an african american woman to the supreme court. let's take a listen to what republican senator roger wicker said. >> the irony is that the supreme court is at the very same time hearing cases about, about this sort of affirmative racial discrimination, and -- and while adding someone who is the beneficiary of this sort of -- >> what's your sense how the president has handled this? >> i think he's handled it very correctly. i can tell you, i look at one of my granddaughters, who's african american and straight as in school and everything else. to have this baloney, and roger wick sir a friend of mine. basically saying, well, if you're a woman and if you're a woman of color, you can only be qualified if you have some firmtive action. every single woman, white or black, in this country should reject such a, such a foolish and racist statement. you pick the best person possible. nobody -- i didn't remember any republican coming up when ronald reagan said i'm going to place the first woman on the supreme court. sandra day o'connor backed by bary goldwater and backed by me and i voted for her, because i felt she was the most qualified name that kcame up. nobody thought it was a special thing, because you're woman or you're a woman of color. you know, that -- we -- comments like that make us look to the rest of the world as though we're -- is sub-par country. >> all right. senator patrick leahy, you've given us a lot to think about. appreciate your time this evening. thanks so much. and we'll get back to you soon. thanks for your time. >> i'm looking forward to the hearings. i'll be there. take care. >> they'll be fascinating. thank you, appreciate it. coming up, covid misinformation is alive and well. >> research suggests it's possible that vaccinator more than likely to get and transmit this virus than the unvaccinated are. >> no. not getting that vaccine. no, no, no, no, no. those things are not good. >> are you vaccinated? 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it's that kind of mentality. and heard republicans say, some senior citizens lived a long life. hinting the fact senior citizens lived long enough. before vaccines became widely available there was essentially no difference in the average covid death rate between red and blue states, but in the last year cnn analysis found red states have a 52 percent higher covid death rate than the blue states. five with the worst per captain te death rate in that time all voted for trump. talk about that. >> well, it's even more intense, and what i saw when i saw this analysis last fall, on a county level. the correlation between trumpist voting, redness of a county. at the county level. 3,000 counties ranked from most to least trump-ee, if you will, just -- step by step. every 10% of the line towards redness, the numbers, the chances of dieing of covid are greater. so the correlation was astonishing to me and that's what made me really begin looking at this correlation and as you say. back at the beginning when people were quarantining or not, masking or not, whatever, there wasn't much difference between the rate at which republicans and independents died. just wasn't. now, in the last year, just starting soon as there were vaccines available, there were. really, strikes me that this is like, so much like the mass human sacrifices in society in the past which took place in large complex empires not unlike ourself. it wasn't primitive what we would then call primitive tribes, big, complex societies and that's what we see here. by the way, it was done by those societies and by the elites in those societies in order to reinforce their political power and often their non-egalitarian societies, which, again, strikes me comparable to what's going on here and now. >> and this is all crim. k grim, but you found reason for hope putting this piece together. tete us about that. >> again, looking at all of the anthropological scholarship and some reasons an that paological scholarship based on massive and hundreds of societies over hundreds and thousands of years. yes, there is new emerging scholarship. hasn't been formally pub lshed yet, but the researchers said, have talked about it, and they have found that over a certain size of society, in the many millions, that it's un -- it's unsustainable historically. that societies, larger societies as they get larger find the injustice involved in you old people, you weak people, you people of low status who are being sacrificed. that became untenable and it was changed. so perhaps, perhaps, this revival of mass sacrifice in the united states is just a passing thing that will go away, but as i was saying. on the other hand, republicans have for 40 yearfour -- four ye gun deaths. eliminating all gun regulation. a different version of the same kind of, of kind of belief in that -- >> maximalism, freedom over lives. >> precisely. >> yeah. all right, kurt anderson. thank you for your time. gave us a lot to think about. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. thank you. coming up, a russian invasion of ukraine could be imminent. so why is ukraine telling tourists, keep calm and come visit?nts, neuriva plus fuels six key indicators of brain performance. more brain performance? 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>> well, first, thank you very much for having me. indeed our president had a conversation with president putin last friday, but he had also conversation with president zelensky from ukraine. as you said, there is this disposition, this willingness, to continue the dialogue which is really important for us. while, of course, this dialogue must end escalation, reducing tensions and in parallel we must also prepare a reaction, if there. would be an invasion, and this reaction must be very, very strong. but for us the dialogue is absolutely essential in all the formats which have been used. one of the formats which was discussed by president macron, both with president zelensky as well, a so-called normandy format where the three countries are together with germany and where we try to find a solution to the conflict in dombask in eastern ukraine. already a crucial aspect in the issue of security around ukraine and in europe. so we will come to know this. this will be a new meeting after the one which took place in paris last wednesday. and which was successful in a way -- well it was successful, because it took lplace but also the four countries first time in two years adopt add common statement showing there is this, again, this disposition on all sides to continue this dialogue. >> ambassador, last hour we spoke to longtime putin critic and former world chess champion garry kasparov who thinks putin is playing a game of poker, that he's actually bluffing. what is the french take on this? do you think putin is bluffing. >> actually, of course, for us, as diplomats, we see this attention, this discouragement of tensions, but we want to, ensure the conditions which will avoid crisis. whatever are the reasons or the rationale of the policy of the attitude of the russian leader, we have to ensure this dialogue being very firm on principles which have been decided 30 years ago in the oic charter, in the paris charter. sovereignty of countries which must be respected, and we must, because we have issues beyond ukraine on the security of our continent. of europe. here unity and coalition are really crucial between our lives and inside the eu principle. a special risk of stability of nato and, of course, with the united states. >> and what would constitute an invasion from the french point of view at this point? we've heard the american government, the white house, say that, you know, if just a small force were to pose some kind of threat across the border, a minor incursion, for example, that that would ratchet things up dramatically. what is the french view on that. >> well, i know there was a discussion here in the united states a couple of days ago, but for us, again, the essential is that we are ready -- if there is an evasion, we are ready to answer, invasion. and we are ready to answer with massive consequences, but, again, the other channel, the other track, the dialogue, is really right now to avoid to have to answer your question, and to avoid -- but knowing that we will react. we will react. there is an invasion, but to give this answer, we can continue the dialogue and the news we have from what happened last friday, from this phone call. also from contacts between russia and all the partners. we are not the only one having these other formats with the united states, with nato, in the unc, we see we will constitute this dialogue and know what we aim at in this dialogue. >> very good. ambassador, good luck in off your efforts. appreciate it. thanks for your time this evening. >> thank you very much. >> all right. merci. while the tension rises or russia's border with ukraine the russian navy was about to conduct military exercises off the coast of ireland until fishermen stepped in. took action to stop the dangerous drills from where they make a lives in the waters. donie, great to see you from your homeland. and great to see some irish strength being applied here. you spoke to these fishermen, stood up to the russians. got them to back down. sounds like david and goliath. how did they do it? art >> reporter: absolutely a david and goliath story. tonight celebrating. have a look. >> you can imagine off the boats here and all of a sudden a missile flying over. worried about rockets fired as part of a russian military exercise off the irish coast this week. >> we don't want anyone hurt. but it's our backyard. where we make our living. >> reporter: concern here in castletown, there a fishing village on the south coast, that russian naval drills could pose a threat not only to safety of fishermen but poeshltentially te fish docks, and bump r ed into frightened the freight. >> reporter: fisherman like this man planned this week to go fishing off the irish coast like he always does, despite warnings from the russian embassy in dublin doing so could be dangerous. >> just regular, get to the boat, keep a lookout for the russian navy. hopefully we don't see them. [ laughter ] >> reporter: and dunn, on the castletown harbor, russians worry about the russian military, probably anxious about the whole thing. >> reporter: people are worried? >> yes. in the backyard fishing and affecting safety of our people. >> reporter: fishermen turned diplomats. they mat last week to express their kearns about russia firing rockets where they normally fish. >> when you went in to speak with the russian foreign minister what did you say for him? >> we gave him some prawns. >> a message for vladimir putin, what would it be? >> saturday night just what happened. the russians saying after appeals from the irish government and the fishermen themselves, russia would move its ships further out to sea away from the irish fishing boats. the news reaching this community by tweet. >> well, how do you feel? >> shocked, really. like, i didn't think that it went on, would have an impact on international diplomacy. >> cheers! >> cheers. >> reporter: the news for the committee here. relief, happiness? >> what everybody felt. >> good catch this week? >> hopefully. >> everyone's catching on the boats. >> reporter: and not catching any russian ships? >> definitely not. or any ships. >> reporter: jim, look, obviously the irish government play add role. irish minister for foreign affairs wrote to his counter part in russia asking them to move a little farther up the irish coast. to recap, this russian flexing of muscle on the most western front of europe sheerhere is st going to happen. was happening about 150 miles off the coast. it's going to happen further out. for fishermen here, very, very happy, because they can go about their business, go earn think living without having to worry about being ensnarled in these exercises. jim? >> doan doney oh sullivan. thanks for that report. seven years ago, a very powerful story for you next. seven years ago his daughter was murdered on live television and now he is running for congress, andy parker joins us live on policy reforms he wants to bring to washington. plus, join sara sidner as she rides along with police to find out why driving black in america can be deadly serious. that report starts tonight at nene. at 9:00. . we can explore uncharted waters, and not only make new discoveries, but get there faster, with better outcomes. with app, cloud and anywhere workspace solutions, vmware helps companies navigate change-- meeting them where they are, and getting them where they want to be. faster. vmware. welcome change. you booked a sunny vrbo ski chalet. with endless views of snow-covered peaks. 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>> jim, great to be with you. you know, as you just pointed out, i've been fighting google and facebook to get the videos of allison's murder removed for years, and two years ago we filed a complaint with the ftc against google, didn't really get anywhere with that. limited success. you know, a few videos came down but that was about it. and so this past october, we filed a complaint with the ftc against facebook, the week after the facebook whistle-blower essentially confirmed everything i was saying, validated everything i've said over the years that these platforms profit from violence from graphic content, from allison's murder, and i couldn't let that stand, and i thought, you know, this is -- this is as far as i can take this as a private citizen. so the next step would be to take it to congress, and if i can get to congress, i can champion this issue, and i'm not doing this just for me. i have to be probably the most visible face of it, but there are thousands of people that have suffered abuse and i've heard from people since i made my announcement. i'm not doing it just for me. i'm doing it for everyone, because these platforms that glorify violence, subject our kids to bullying and pornography. spread lies and conspiracy theories that clearly we see is tearing our country apart and they have zero -- >> nonstop. you've referred to your republican rival bob good as the marjorie taylor greene of virginia. this statement, i've done what i said i would do when first running for congress in 2020 fighting on the front line fighting for our nation's founding principles against the democrats radical leftist agenda. what is your response to some of that in terms of what congressman good is saying? he is essentially flexing his trump bona fides there in your part of virginia nap is going to be a challenge for you. >> it is, but i think that there are enough, perhaps, former republican, or, you know, republicans like liz cheney in the district that have perhaps buyers remorse. and, in fact, i quote often when i'm talking to potential contributors that, you know, there was an article in the "washington post" not too long ago that did a profile on good, and one lady they quoted said, you know, i'm a christian. i'm a conservative. i voted for bob good in 2020. i'm not doing it again. so i think there are enough of those people out there that are tired of the clown act. listen, this guy, every time he sets foot in the capitol building he desecrates it with his presence, and i want to restore decency and integrity to the office, and you know, do things for the district, like, you know, industrial site buildouts and chip manufacturing and datacenters. i mean, he never talks about that. he's a culture warrior in the, in the vein of donald trump, and as you have so aptly put it, a member of the freak show caucus. i think it's, that's a very appropriate description. i call it the treason caucus, too. >> we're inviting congressman good, if he wants to come on, he's welcome to come on this program. but let me ask you this -- you know that republicans in virginia have been successful in recent months. the new governor, glenn youngkin, facing pretty swift backlash after he put in place a tip line or some calling it a snitch line for parents to report divisive subjects that are taught in classrooms like critical race theory even though you don't see critical race theory thought in virginia schools. some people, anything that makes kids uncomfortable about our civil rights history, calling that critical race theory. what is your response to this controversy that's bubbled up about this tip line put in there? >> it's crazy. you know, it's -- they're creating an issue that doesn't exist. but that's what these guys do. i mean, they create this brouhaha about critical race theory. bob good goes into schools and school board meetings encouraging people, don't wearing a masks. tells the kids, i mean, he actually was recorded telling kids to defy your principal. don't wearing a masks. and this is the kind of rhetoric and behavior that encourages people like this woman that showed up at the loudon county school board saying she's going to bring guns. it's dangerous, extreme rhetoric and has nothing to do. it's poisoning our country and not doing anything for the citizens of the fifth district of virginia or americans in general. >> all right. andy parker, thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate it. keep an eye on that race. >> thank you, jim. now here is christine romans with your "before the bell "report. hi, christine. >> hi, jim. jobs are plentiful, wages rising, but how much damage did omicron inflict on the jobs market? 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we fight like hell and if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore. >> we're going to the capitol. so let's walk down pennsylvania avenue. >> wait. there is more. last night trump made it clear people who heeded his call to action on january 6th might actually get away with it. >> if i run and if i win, we will treat those people from january 6th fairly. we will treat them fairly. and if it requires pardons, we will give them pardons, because they are being treated so unfairly. >> yes. he is ready to abuse presidential pardon powers once again. this time to let supporters know they'll receive a get out of jail free card for january 6th and perhaps for whatever may come next. that's not a campaign promise, though. that's more like a dictator's decree. yes. america. the coup is still happening. joining me now, president pro tem of the united states senate and member. judiciary committee, democrat patrick leahy of vermont. senator leahy, does this sound like a threat to you coming from the former president? >> it sounds definitely like a threat. i cannot believe i would ever hear this from somebody running for office or in office. i was a prosecutor for eight years. to think that somebody would run for a high office and say, you can conduct any kind of criminal contact you want. don't worry. if you're doing it to support me, i'm give you a pard on wheni get there. you know, as prosecutor, i'd say, this has to be, somebody's making this up. it couldn't be real. and yet when you were there on january 6th, as i was, look out and i see them putting a noose up to hang the vice president, if he didn't throw the election out. i see people storming through, i could smell the tear gas, could see the -- i could see the damaged windows. beautiful parts of the capitol had been damage and seeing people say we're doing this because donald trump told us to. this is not a democracy. this is something that you'd see in a third world nation with a two- two-bit dictator. >> trying to make comeback sounds like and we did hear from a couple republican senators reacting to trump the remarks. not exactly full-throated condemnation. let's watch. >> i think it's inappropriate. i don't want to reinforce defiling the capitol was okay. i don't want to do anything that would make this more likely in the future. i want to deter what people did january 6th and those who did it hope they go to jail and get the book thrown at them, because they deserve it. >> i do not think that the president should have made, president trump should have made that pledge to do pardons. we should let the judicial process proceed. >> i know you don't want to necessarily criticize your republican colleague there's in the senate, but that was not exactly a profile encouraged moment. senator, do you think you're going to see anything more from your republican colleagues when it comes to defending our democracy and condemning this thuggish dictator-like behavior we're seeing from trump at these rallies? i think you have to have people stand up and vote. we saw that after watergate with richard nixon. you'd have people ranging barry goldwater to mike mansfield. from right to the left saying, this is wrong. i mean, as i said. i was a prosecutor for eight years. when somebody commits a crime, or incites crime, that's wrong. i don't care if they're republicans or democrats. what the former president has done, no question he incited a riot last year, and there's no question they want to keep on encouraging it. can you imagine saying, look, don't worry. you go out and commit whatever crimes you want, if it's helping me get elected, if i get elected, i'm take care of you. i'll take care of you. i'll -- i'll -- i'll give you a pardon. now, that's something nobody, republican or democrat, should accept. i mean, that is -- third world baloney. >> yeah. absolutely. let's talk about president biden's looning supreme court pick. i think a lot of viewers, a lot of americans, are bracing for mitch mcconnell to try to figure out a way to block another democratic president's nominee. what assurances can you give that that won't happen this time? do you think that we won't see that happen this time? do you think mcconnell, you know, knows that the jig is up and folks are sort of on to what he's been up to over these last several years with supreme court picks? >> of course, everybody saw the outrageous blocking of the constitutional process in blocking merrick garland, and unfortunately, mitch mcconnell was able to do it because he had a number of republicans who had stated earlier, oh, yeah. merrick would about good person, easily vote for him and lockstep in blocking, even having a vote. if you don't like somebody, then vote them up or vote them down. but what we saw there diminished the supreme court, certainly damaged the u.s. senate, and the, you could see the hypocrisy when he ran through a supreme court nominee within days of the next election, which president biden won. so i know -- i think it would be very hard for him to block this. i think what the american public would say, you can't do this. and i would hope that the supreme court, and those on it, would not be in favor of something like this, because it is diminishing the supreme court. it's losing the supreme court, losing its credibility. it's down the polls now in a way i never thought i'd see, because they see it as being political. not non-partisan. i think any leader of any party, republican or democratic, to try to politicize the supreme court is wrong. i know some of the names that president biden is looking at. they're all superb nominees. they are people that in normal time would go through very, very easily. and bring the nominee up and have a hearing. justice breyer gave us all plenty of advance notice. >> right. i was going to ask about that. hearing republicans go on the attack over president biden's announcement he would name an african american woman to the supreme court. let's take a listen to what republican senator roger wicker said. >> the irony is that the supreme court is at the very same time hearing cases about, about this sort of affirmative racial discrimination, and -- and while adding someone who is the beneficiary of this sort of -- >> what's your sense how the president has handled this? >> i think he's handled it very correctly. i can tell you, i look at one of my granddaughters, who's african american and straight as in school and everything else. to have this baloney, and roger wick sir a friend of mine. basically saying, well, if you're a woman and if you're a woman of color, you can only be qualified if you have some firmtive action. every single woman, white or black, in this country should reject such a, such a foolish and racist statement. you pick the best person possible. nobody -- i didn't remember any republican coming up when ronald reagan said i'm going to place the first woman on the supreme court. sandra day o'connor backed by bary goldwater and backed by me and i voted for her, because i felt she was the most qualified name that kcame up. nobody thought it was a special thing, because you're woman or you're a woman of color. you know, that -- we -- comments like that make us look to the rest of the world as though we're -- is sub-par country. >> all right. senator patrick leahy, you've given us a lot to think about. appreciate your time this evening. thanks so much. and we'll get back to you soon. thanks for your time. >> i'm looking forward to the hearings. i'll be there. take care. >> they'll be fascinating. thank you, appreciate it. coming up, covid misinformation is alive and well. >> research suggests it's possible that vaccinator more than likely to get and transmit this virus than the unvaccinated are. >> no. not getting that vaccine. no, no, no, no, no. those things are not good. >> are you vaccinated? 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it's that kind of mentality. and heard republicans say, some senior citizens lived a long life. hinting the fact senior citizens lived long enough. before vaccines became widely available there was essentially no difference in the average covid death rate between red and blue states, but in the last year cnn analysis found red states have a 52 percent higher covid death rate than the blue states. five with the worst per captain te death rate in that time all voted for trump. talk about that. >> well, it's even more intense, and what i saw when i saw this analysis last fall, on a county level. the correlation between trumpist voting, redness of a county. at the county level. 3,000 counties ranked from most to least trump-ee, if you will, just -- step by step. every 10% of the line towards redness, the numbers, the chances of dieing of covid are greater. so the correlation was astonishing to me and that's what made me really begin looking at this correlation and as you say. back at the beginning when people were quarantining or not, masking or not, whatever, there wasn't much difference between the rate at which republicans and independents died. just wasn't. now, in the last year, just starting soon as there were vaccines available, there were. really, strikes me that this is like, so much like the mass human sacrifices in society in the past which took place in large complex empires not unlike ourself. it wasn't primitive what we would then call primitive tribes, big, complex societies and that's what we see here. by the way, it was done by those societies and by the elites in those societies in order to reinforce their political power and often their non-egalitarian societies, which, again, strikes me comparable to what's going on here and now. >> and this is all crim. k grim, but you found reason for hope putting this piece together. tete us about that. >> again, looking at all of the anthropological scholarship and some reasons an that paological scholarship based on massive and hundreds of societies over hundreds and thousands of years. yes, there is new emerging scholarship. hasn't been formally pub lshed yet, but the researchers said, have talked about it, and they have found that over a certain size of society, in the many millions, that it's un -- it's unsustainable historically. that societies, larger societies as they get larger find the injustice involved in you old people, you weak people, you people of low status who are being sacrificed. that became untenable and it was changed. so perhaps, perhaps, this revival of mass sacrifice in the united states is just a passing thing that will go away, but as i was saying. on the other hand, republicans have for 40 yearfour -- four ye gun deaths. eliminating all gun regulation. a different version of the same kind of, of kind of belief in that -- >> maximalism, freedom over lives. >> precisely. >> yeah. all right, kurt anderson. thank you for your time. gave us a lot to think about. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. thank you. coming up, a russian invasion of ukraine could be imminent. so why is ukraine telling tourists, keep calm and come visit?nts, neuriva plus fuels six key indicators of brain performance. more brain performance? 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>> well, first, thank you very much for having me. indeed our president had a conversation with president putin last friday, but he had also conversation with president zelensky from ukraine. as you said, there is this disposition, this willingness, to continue the dialogue which is really important for us. while, of course, this dialogue must end escalation, reducing tensions and in parallel we must also prepare a reaction, if there. would be an invasion, and this reaction must be very, very strong. but for us the dialogue is absolutely essential in all the formats which have been used. one of the formats which was discussed by president macron, both with president zelensky as well, a so-called normandy format where the three countries are together with germany and where we try to find a solution to the conflict in dombask in eastern ukraine. already a crucial aspect in the issue of security around ukraine and in europe. so we will come to know this. this will be a new meeting after the one which took place in paris last wednesday. and which was successful in a way -- well it was successful, because it took lplace but also the four countries first time in two years adopt add common statement showing there is this, again, this disposition on all sides to continue this dialogue. >> ambassador, last hour we spoke to longtime putin critic and former world chess champion garry kasparov who thinks putin is playing a game of poker, that he's actually bluffing. what is the french take on this? do you think putin is bluffing. >> actually, of course, for us, as diplomats, we see this attention, this discouragement of tensions, but we want to, ensure the conditions which will avoid crisis. whatever are the reasons or the rationale of the policy of the attitude of the russian leader, we have to ensure this dialogue being very firm on principles which have been decided 30 years ago in the oic charter, in the paris charter. sovereignty of countries which must be respected, and we must, because we have issues beyond ukraine on the security of our continent. of europe. here unity and coalition are really crucial between our lives and inside the eu principle. a special risk of stability of nato and, of course, with the united states. >> and what would constitute an invasion from the french point of view at this point? we've heard the american government, the white house, say that, you know, if just a small force were to pose some kind of threat across the border, a minor incursion, for example, that that would ratchet things up dramatically. what is the french view on that. >> well, i know there was a discussion here in the united states a couple of days ago, but for us, again, the essential is that we are ready -- if there is an evasion, we are ready to answer, invasion. and we are ready to answer with massive consequences, but, again, the other channel, the other track, the dialogue, is really right now to avoid to have to answer your question, and to avoid -- but knowing that we will react. we will react. there is an invasion, but to give this answer, we can continue the dialogue and the news we have from what happened last friday, from this phone call. also from contacts between russia and all the partners. we are not the only one having these other formats with the united states, with nato, in the unc, we see we will constitute this dialogue and know what we aim at in this dialogue. >> very good. ambassador, good luck in off your efforts. appreciate it. thanks for your time this evening. >> thank you very much. >> all right. merci. while the tension rises or russia's border with ukraine the russian navy was about to conduct military exercises off the coast of ireland until fishermen stepped in. took action to stop the dangerous drills from where they make a lives in the waters. donie, great to see you from your homeland. and great to see some irish strength being applied here. you spoke to these fishermen, stood up to the russians. got them to back down. sounds like david and goliath. how did they do it? art >> reporter: absolutely a david and goliath story. tonight celebrating. have a look. >> you can imagine off the boats here and all of a sudden a missile flying over. worried about rockets fired as part of a russian military exercise off the irish coast this week. >> we don't want anyone hurt. but it's our backyard. where we make our living. >> reporter: concern here in castletown, there a fishing village on the south coast, that russian naval drills could pose a threat not only to safety of fishermen but poeshltentially te fish docks, and bump r ed into frightened the freight. >> reporter: fisherman like this man planned this week to go fishing off the irish coast like he always does, despite warnings from the russian embassy in dublin doing so could be dangerous. >> just regular, get to the boat, keep a lookout for the russian navy. hopefully we don't see them. [ laughter ] >> reporter: and dunn, on the castletown harbor, russians worry about the russian military, probably anxious about the whole thing. >> reporter: people are worried? >> yes. in the backyard fishing and affecting safety of our people. >> reporter: fishermen turned diplomats. they mat last week to express their kearns about russia firing rockets where they normally fish. >> when you went in to speak with the russian foreign minister what did you say for him? >> we gave him some prawns. >> a message for vladimir putin, what would it be? >> saturday night just what happened. the russians saying after appeals from the irish government and the fishermen themselves, russia would move its ships further out to sea away from the irish fishing boats. the news reaching this community by tweet. >> well, how do you feel? >> shocked, really. like, i didn't think that it went on, would have an impact on international diplomacy. >> cheers! >> cheers. >> reporter: the news for the committee here. relief, happiness? >> what everybody felt. >> good catch this week? >> hopefully. >> everyone's catching on the boats. >> reporter: and not catching any russian ships? >> definitely not. or any ships. >> reporter: jim, look, obviously the irish government play add role. irish minister for foreign affairs wrote to his counter part in russia asking them to move a little farther up the irish coast. to recap, this russian flexing of muscle on the most western front of europe sheerhere is st going to happen. was happening about 150 miles off the coast. it's going to happen further out. for fishermen here, very, very happy, because they can go about their business, go earn think living without having to worry about being ensnarled in these exercises. jim? >> doan doney oh sullivan. thanks for that report. seven years ago, a very powerful story for you next. seven years ago his daughter was murdered on live television and now he is running for congress, andy parker joins us live on policy reforms he wants to bring to washington. plus, join sara sidner as she rides along with police to find out why driving black in america can be deadly serious. that report starts tonight at nene. at 9:00. . we can explore uncharted waters, and not only make new discoveries, but get there faster, with better outcomes. with app, cloud and anywhere workspace solutions, vmware helps companies navigate change-- meeting them where they are, and getting them where they want to be. faster. vmware. welcome change. you booked a sunny vrbo ski chalet. with endless views of snow-covered peaks. 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>> jim, great to be with you. you know, as you just pointed out, i've been fighting google and facebook to get the videos of allison's murder removed for years, and two years ago we filed a complaint with the ftc against google, didn't really get anywhere with that. limited success. you know, a few videos came down but that was about it. and so this past october, we filed a complaint with the ftc against facebook, the week after the facebook whistle-blower essentially confirmed everything i was saying, validated everything i've said over the years that these platforms profit from violence from graphic content, from allison's murder, and i couldn't let that stand, and i thought, you know, this is -- this is as far as i can take this as a private citizen. so the next step would be to take it to congress, and if i can get to congress, i can champion this issue, and i'm not doing this just for me. i have to be probably the most visible face of it, but there are thousands of people that have suffered abuse and i've heard from people since i made my announcement. i'm not doing it just for me. i'm doing it for everyone, because these platforms that glorify violence, subject our kids to bullying and pornography. spread lies and conspiracy theories that clearly we see is tearing our country apart and they have zero -- >> nonstop. you've referred to your republican rival bob good as the marjorie taylor greene of virginia. this statement, i've done what i said i would do when first running for congress in 2020 fighting on the front line fighting for our nation's founding principles against the democrats radical leftist agenda. what is your response to some of that in terms of what congressman good is saying? he is essentially flexing his trump bona fides there in your part of virginia nap is going to be a challenge for you. >> it is, but i think that there are enough, perhaps, former republican, or, you know, republicans like liz cheney in the district that have perhaps buyers remorse. and, in fact, i quote often when i'm talking to potential contributors that, you know, there was an article in the "washington post" not too long ago that did a profile on good, and one lady they quoted said, you know, i'm a christian. i'm a conservative. i voted for bob good in 2020. i'm not doing it again. so i think there are enough of those people out there that are tired of the clown act. listen, this guy, every time he sets foot in the capitol building he desecrates it with his presence, and i want to restore decency and integrity to the office, and you know, do things for the district, like, you know, industrial site buildouts and chip manufacturing and datacenters. i mean, he never talks about that. he's a culture warrior in the, in the vein of donald trump, and as you have so aptly put it, a member of the freak show caucus. i think it's, that's a very appropriate description. i call it the treason caucus, too. >> we're inviting congressman good, if he wants to come on, he's welcome to come on this program. but let me ask you this -- you know that republicans in virginia have been successful in recent months. the new governor, glenn youngkin, facing pretty swift backlash after he put in place a tip line or some calling it a snitch line for parents to report divisive subjects that are taught in classrooms like critical race theory even though you don't see critical race theory thought in virginia schools. some people, anything that makes kids uncomfortable about our civil rights history, calling that critical race theory. what is your response to this controversy that's bubbled up about this tip line put in there? >> it's crazy. you know, it's -- they're creating an issue that doesn't exist. but that's what these guys do. i mean, they create this brouhaha about critical race theory. bob good goes into schools and school board meetings encouraging people, don't wearing a masks. tells the kids, i mean, he actually was recorded telling kids to defy your principal. don't wearing a masks. and this is the kind of rhetoric and behavior that encourages people like this woman that showed up at the loudon county school board saying she's going to bring guns. it's dangerous, extreme rhetoric and has nothing to do. it's poisoning our country and not doing anything for the citizens of the fifth district of virginia or americans in general. >> all right. andy parker, thank you very much for joining us. we appreciate it. keep an eye on that race. >> thank you, jim. now here is christine romans with your "before the bell "report. hi, christine. >> hi, jim. jobs are plentiful, wages rising, but how much damage did omicron inflict on the jobs market? 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