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inauguration, democrats are in reset mode right now, looking for ways to slice up and salvage pieces of the agenda, i'll ask about the path forward. and the president is on clean-up duty after his marathon news conference. he's warning that any, any move by russia into ukraine will be considered an invasion. we'll go live to ukrainian capitol where officials fear biden's remarks yesterday may have given a green light to vladimir putin. we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world, i'm wolf blitzer, you're in the situation room. we begin our coverage with new moves by the january 6 select committee now seeking information from the former president's daughter ivanka trump, our senior legal affairs correspondent paula read has the latest on the investigation. >> reporter: the house select committee investigating january 6th, moving in on former president trump's inner circle, requesting a voluntary interview from ivanka trump. >> i'm very proud of ivanka. >> reporter: the committee already gathered some evidence about what the former first daughter was doing on the day the insurrection. >> we have first-hand testimony that his daughter, ivanka, went in at least twice to ask him to please stop this violence. >> reporter: in an eight page letter today, the committee says it would like to discuss any other conversations she may have witnessed or participates in regarding the president's plan to obstruct or impede the counting of electoral votes. lawmakers also want to know more about what she saw in the oval office, saying a witness has testified that she was there for a call between her father and the vice-president. when trump tried to precissure mike pence to go along with the certification of electoral votes. why they didn't do more? testimony attains that members of the white house staffed requested your assistance on multiment occasions to intervene to persuade trump on the lawlessness on capitol hill. also want to ask her whether her father gave orders to deploy national guard that day. the committee is aware that certain white house staff devoted time during the violent riot to rebutting questions regarding whether the president was attempting to hold up deployment of the guard. trump's state of mind, a key focus of the committee. their letter, painting a picture of the chaotic white house and staffers hoping that ivanka, a senior adviser, could get through to her father. they also wanted to talk to ivanka about how others, including fox news host sean hannity tried to stop trump from talking about the election being stolen and keep him away from certain people. ivanka's representatives issued a statement saying, as the committee knows, ivanka did not speak at the january 6 rally as she stated that day at 3:15 p.m., any security breach or disrespect to our law enforcement is unacceptable, the violence must stop immediately, police be peaceful. it did not say whether she will comply with the committee's request. >> i have to find 12,000 votes, and i have them times a lot. and therefore, i won the state. >> reporter: the former president's efforts to overturn the 2020 election also under scrutiny in georgia today, with the fulton county district attorney requesting a special grand jury to gather evidence and compel witnesses. the da, willis, saying her office has information indicating her possible sd disruptions of the state's election process. >> house committee also looking into whether there was involvement in the trump hos in the submission of fake electors. officials tell cnn, campaign officials led by rudy giuliani over saw efforts in 2020 to put forward illegitimate electors from seven states trump lost and this was a core tenant of the broader plot to overturns biden's victory when congress counted electoral votes on january 6. >> i want you to stand by, and bring in cnn analyst maggie, washington correspondent for new york times, as well as our chief analyst, jeffrey, now what is this request to speak with ivanka trump tell you about the status of the select committee's investigation right now and what they're still trying to piece together? >> well, it certainly seems like the core of the investigation is about the three or so hours between the beginning of the riot, the insurrection, and when the president finally called, sort of, for peace, when he said we love you but please stop rioting. that period is when ivanka trump was apparently with the president and they want to know what was going on there. it's worth pointing out, there is no such thing as a parent-child privilege which would prevent her from testifying. she could cite executive privilege if there is a subpoena, but after the supreme court's decision earlier this week, that argument looks even weaker than it was even to begin with. >> do you, maggie, see any scenario in which ivanka trump voluntarily agrees to speak with the committee? >> very little they have said so far about what she's going to do, but could see a scenario where she cooperates because she thinks that's the path to take where it would appear she's trying to be forth coming. i think as jeffrey said, this is a key area they are looking at it is this three hours of time on january 6, but i think another core of this investigation is leading up to january 6 with mike pence, i think those are the two aspects they're focused on. she does have some visibility into that, from that morning, she was witnessed, not, i don't think for the whole time but certainly some of it, to her father talking about mike pence for what was this final discussion before, you know, the electoral college tally was certified so i think she could be key. i think that, again, we've seen a lot of witnesses, wolf, sort of cooperate, sort of not, mark meadows was one before he stopped short, mike pence's chief of staff cooperating to a degree. i could see her following that route. >> you know, paula, you've done a lot of reporting on this and a large part of this letter to ivanka trump comes from sworn testimony from mike pence's then national security adviser, retired general keith kellogg who was with trump at the white house as this riot was unfolding and happening, i want to read something kellogg told the committee, he, trump, didn't say yes to mark meadows or katie, but he might say yes to his daughter, answer, exactly right. keith -- what exactly does he know? he seems to be very key to this investigation. >> absolutely, and in this letter they lay out specific situations where ivanka could have been present for things they want to talk to her about and a lot of this information came from keith kellogg and other witnesses specifically, want to talk with her about this conversation she was present for where her father was pressuring pence, also these efforts to get her father to go out and quell the violence, but how do they know she was there? witnesses, what we learned from the letters, how deeply they are in the white house and how much they learned. it really underscores the importance of these witness interviews, like the importance we do, you can learn a lot from documents but it's talking to people who were in the room at the time, that's how you really flush out exactly what was happening, and this also makes it more clear why they've gone to court so many times to fight to get access to these officials. >> you know, jeffrey, i want to turn to the state of georgia, where the fulton county district attorney as we heard is asking for the special grand jury to be convened to look into the former president's election interference in the vote counting in georgia. how significant is this move by the d.a.? >> just to remind people, this is an investigation under georgia criminal law and there is a provision of georgia criminal law that seems to cover attempts to interfere with the counting of votes. it is a kind of obstruction of justice, and that's what this investigation apparently has been about. it is not for certain that donald trump will be indicted, not for certain he committed any crime, to say the least, however, this just shows the investigation is a serious one, continuing and with the grand jury panelling will continue longer. >> we know there were some 18 attempted calls from the white house to georgia secretary of state's office. i want you and our viewers to listen to part of that now infamous call between trump and the georgia secretary of state. >> there's nothing wrong with saying that, you know, that you've recalculated. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. >> just how concerted was this effort? >> it was quite concerted. i mean, as we know, this was one of the avenues that the former president and his aides were trying to get this, electors were one, trying to get pence to throw it back to the states was another, but this was a key one, and this was, look, as jeffrey said and he knows more about the law than i do, it's not clear yet that the president, former president broke a law. it, you know, they may determine that he didn't, but what he's on tape saying is pretty clear. what he's on tape saying is that he is pressuring an elected official, he is pressuring an official involved with certifying an election to, i think, it was, recalculate was his word or retally or something. i mean this was very, very overt and happened over and over and there were a lot of people around the former president who were enabling him in this, mark meadows, former chief of staff was a big one so i think we'll continue to learn more about this period. >> and wolf, you know, the question here is very similar to his activities in washington which is, you know, what is the line between advocacy, speech making, advocacy, protected by the first amendment and coercion that is criminal. that's the core of the georgia investigation and in many respects, washington as well. >> all right, thanks guys, very much, coming up, does the white house now have a plan to get president biden's agenda off the ground as he begins his second year in office? 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>> reporter: biden and his top aides seeking to clarify their remarks on a potential russian invasion of ukraine. >> it's one thing if it's a minor incursion and we end up having to fight about what to do, et cetera. >> you saw the president convey clearly his point of view this morning. >> reporter: and on the integrity of the 2022 midterm elections. >> i'm not saying it's going to be legitimate, the increase in it being illegitimate is directly in proportion to get these bills passed. >> he was not able to certify the legitimacy of the 2020 election. >> reporter: a white house media blitz that was supposed to tout one year wins and the path forwards. a self-inflicted challenge after a year filled with it, something b biden was keenly aware of in his inaugural address. >> few people in our nation's history have been more challenged or found a time more challenging or difficult than the time we're in now. >> reporter: with white house officials pointing to a robust economic recovery, historic vaccination effort and a handful of legislative wins but the moment, casting the administration in a different light with cnn polls putting biden's approval at a low mark of 44%, driven by persistent pandemic, and agenda stuck in neutral. >> i know today marks one year, but that does not mean our work is done. >> reporter: something white house officials just hours after the senate defeat reform legislation are seeking to remedy, as they consider scaling back the corner stone $1.5 trillion economic bill. >> reforming to get 50 members of the senate. >> reporter: and talk on bipartisan bill. >> president is open to engaging with, talking with, as we are, even though it's not a substitute, republicans and others in moving forward. >> and wolf, white house officials are cautiously optimistic that when it comes to the president's corner stone economic plan, there is a path forward, they do feel there's a way to thread the needle with senators joe manchin and kyrsten sinema, two democratic hold outs however there's a lot of work to do, make no mistake about that, senator manchin earlier today told our colleagues where things go from here, would be starting from scratch, wolf. >> we'll see what happens on that front, thank you, let's discuss with a key member of the biden cabinet, labor secretary marty walsh, thank you for joining us. as the president says, no plan would go better than his build back better legislation, to face the costs with americans right now. why is he starting now on the talks of breaking it up into something, pieces of legislation that can actually pass? >> well i certainly think when the president wrote out build back better last year in 2021, he laid out three major pieces of legislation, one was the american rescue plan which was successful, one was the bipartisan infrastructure law, very successful in getting bipartisan support and the build back better, you know, when you're working with the legislature, people have different ideas what they want tos in the bill and i think the president did the right thing, now looking to see how can we get some key components of the bill passed as we head into midterm election year, i think it's important and we have lots of members of congress with different views on what's the most important piece moving forward but the president laid out his agenda, his plan here to move the country forward. got 2/3 of major legislation passed and any one of those bills would have been a success in any presidency, but certainly will continue to make sure and push for components of build back better to move our economy forward and help american people recover not just from a pandemic but allow the opportunity that quite honestly hasn't been the case in the last 40 years to get into the middle class. >> as you just heard, senator joe manchin, senators starting in his words, from skcratch on new version of the bill. what are the key policies that would go farthest helping americans, what are the two or three things most important to you? >> i don't agree with starting from scratch, first and foremost, he's been very clear. >> that's what manchin says. >> i know, i know, but he's been very clear what the american people need. the people need childcare, cost of childcare has gone almost unable for families to, not onl the cost but supporting the childcare registry. many families didn't have the support to keep their agencies open or individual homes open, i think that's important. also elder care and care economy as a whole, people in the jobs now for the last five, six months now, seeing nursing home, staffing going down, seeing older population growing in our country so really have to address those issue and see many other issues i certainly would love to see more you don't want tos f tos to see, job trainings, i think you have to have conversations and listen to people, with all key members of the congress, and senate, about what priorities are in their communities because america in different parts of the country are different priorities. >> just like on the infrastructure bill, republicans will support some of the initiatives and have to work with them as well. i want to get to the latest unemployment numbers, secretary, the 200,000, three month high u a year into the biden presidency, is this a sign there's still a long way to go into the recovery from the pandemic? >> i think it depends how you define recovery. certainly we have millions of jobs opening in this country and working to get people back, 6.4 million people going back to work in 2021 was a 25 year high, the largest job growth in one particular year in 25 years, unemployment rates 3.5%, that's a 3 point drop in one year, that's the highest drop since the 1940s. certainly, we all have work to do moving forward, working with industries at the department of labor, president tasked me with creating new opportunities for job training programs to get people trained and skilled and into new jobs. infrastructure law that just passed will help us with that as well, and then working with companies and working with employees around the country is another thing. i think that we're not doing this in a silo, we're working collectively together, i think continuing to get the coronavirus numbers down, the omicron variant will hopefully, we're starting to see a little trend in certain parts of the country go down. i think we can't lose sight of the fact that we're living in a once-in-a century pandemic time, when people talk about inflation, people not going back to work, there's still lots of concern of the pandemic, you know, the president laid out a plan in early 2021 to get people vaccinated, 74% of all adults in america are vaccinated, very good things there. >> before i let you go, your boston mayor, a lot of speculation in your home state, possibly you're thinking of running for governor of massachusetts, i know you've danced around that question in recent days and weeks. are you thinking of running for governor of massachusetts? >> no, i'm not running for governor of massachusetts. president biden asked me in january of last year if i would serve as secretary of labor, it's an incredible honor and privilege to work in the biden administration. i'm working with the president to continue to rebuild america, keep having us come back, and we have plenty of work to do here in washington. but it was an honor to be mentioned as a governor. i love massachusetts, love my city of boston, but i'm serving the people of united states of america right now. >> so that's the news, you get some pick-up back home in boston i'm sure, labor secretary marty walsh, always welcome to join us here in the "the situation room," thank you very much. >> thanks wolf. >> live to ukraine for reaction to president biden's attempt to clarify his stance on a potential russian invasion. are ukrainian officials satisfied or still spooked by what they heard from the president yesterday? and get back to your rhythm. feel the power. beat the symptoms fast. our priorities, they've changed. hey lexus, play my music. it's not just about getting ahead. or the constant grind. it's about knowing what you want... 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>> reporter: well, wolf, a ukrainian official has told cnn that, quote, if biden wants to avert an invasion, america needs to do more. a lot of people still very spooked by president biden's comments yesterday that seemed to indicate that in the case of a small incursion that russia might not pay such a price and despite the efforts that the white house may roll the efforts back and offer more clarity about the strength of response to russian aggression, people here still voicing concerns, this ukrainian official telling cnn that essentially, the u.s. needs to take a more aggressive stance, that they would like to see immediate sanctions against russia and they are also desperate for the u.s. to really ratchet up heavy sophisticated weaponry support to the ukrainian military. we do know, as a side note, the u.s. confirmed today the transfer of american weapons from ukraine's baltic neighbors to here, in ukraine. but certainly, we haven't seen this kind of public rebuke before, wolf, for quite some time. even from ukraine's president, volodomy zelensky, took to the comments yesterday, we want to remind the great powers that there are no minor iencursion i small nations just as there are no minor casualties and no minor loss of loved ones, i say this as president of a great power. that kind of language, that rebuke from a ukrainian president to a sitting u.s. president is incredibly rare, wolf and i think it really goes to show you just how uneasy the government was made here by those comments yesterday, despite the efforts today to offer more clarity. >> was a truly extraordinary exchange. clarissa ward in ukraine for us, we'll stay in very close touch with you, as you stay over there. thank you very much. let's discuss what's going on with congressman jason, democrat, serves on the armed services committee, thank you for joining us. i should note you were just in ukraine leading a congressional delegation last month, president tried to clean up his comments today but is the damage already done? from putin's perspective, did he already give a green light? >> well, good to be with you, wolf and yeah, i did lead a delegation of intelligence committee members, sat on both armed services committee and house intelligence committee and we visited with senior defense officials for both the united states and ukraine, special operations forces and others about a month ago. but, you know, let's not overstate these comments by president biden, because the simple fact of the matter is we are following substantial aid in the ukraine, providing support, cyber support, intelligence support, a lot is going on. we can and must do more, we need to significantly ramp up the aid and i've been very clear with the administration on that point. we can do more, we have to up the costs, to putin, to try to prevent an invasion, if he does invade, make it very painful, but here's the other piece of this -- ukrainians have things they have to do too that they haven't been doing and the biggest is time for them to mobilize their reserves. they haven't been mobilizing their reserve forces. it is way past time for them to do that, to prepare their plan, and i also think they need to move forces around, probably move some forces out into more defensive positions in the country so moves they have to be making, this isn't all just on us. >> i want you to watch and listen to how democratic senator chris murphy who just this week was in ukraine reacted to that extraordinary tweet from president zelensky earlier in the day. listen to this. >> i do worry that president zelensky sometimes seems more interested in twitter fights with american leaders than he does in making sure his country is protected. >> is it appropriate, do you think, to publicly undermine the ukrainian president like that? as he tries to deter what he fears could be a full scale russian invasion? >> well, i'm just not going to get into the back and forth on twi twitter battles between u.s. senators, president zelensky -- >> really a twitter battle between president zelensky and president of the united states, it was senator murphy just saying zelensky shouldn't have spoken out like that. >> yeah, probably was not helpful. i mean there's no doubt about that. but the bottom line is this -- russians are preparing for an invasion. they are massing substantial combat power along the border. i think the situation is dire, i think it's very likely there will be an invasion, although i don't think that's certain yet, the only person who knows that for sure is vladimir putin himself, and there are many, many things that have to be done that do not involve twitter that can help prevent it and if it does happen will make it extremely costly for vladimir putin, that involves sanctions packages, requires arms transfers and many other things that can be done. >> we got to go, but very quickly, i know you're on the intelligence committee, will russia invade? 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explore over 75 programs and four-week classes at national university. your future starts today at nu.edu. i don't just play someone brainy on tv - i'm an actual neuroscientist. and i love the science behind neuriva plus. unlike ordinary memory supplements, neuriva plus fuels six key indicators of brain performance. more brain performance? yes, please! neuriva. think bigger. tonight a mysterious fbi raid on the texas and home campaign office of a democratic congressman is raising a lot of questions. the fbi refused to comment on the reason for the search only revealing in a brief statement authorities were paying, quote, a court authorized visit to his residence. a spokesman tells cnn the congressman will fully cooperate in any investigation. now to a very important and timely new book from cnn's senior legal analyst laura coates. that book is putting the spotlight on injustices within the u.s. justice system. joining us right now, her new book is entitled, "just pursuit, a black prosecutor's fight for fairness." thanks very much for joining us. thanks for writing this really amazing, wonderful book. you write that in your time as a prosecutor, you could in your words count the number of white defendants you saw on one hand. what does that say about who the justice system works for in this country? >> frankly, i didn't need every single family on that one hand either, wolf. it tells you about the idea of how much race and bias has played a role in the decisions made all across this country. we know that black and brown communities do not have a monopoly on crime, yet disproportionate impact is a real thing in the justice system which more and more becomes the legal system, hoping to be a justice system. in this book i really peeled back the curtain on what the experience of the justice system is like. i talk about the law and your program and others and what it means. here is what it feels like and really looks like. if we're going to speak truth to power, people ought to first know the truth. >> whether it is the unjust deportation of a crime victim or victims' families begging for a lighter sentence for the defendant how painful was it in your federal prosecutor -- how painful was it to see the system at work with so little opportunity as you describe it for compassion and nuance? >> there were moments of extraordinary compassion and humanity but often over shadowed by the overwhelming acts of injustice that frankly can happen even inadvertently. i write in the book how the pursuit of justice can often create injustice, a very counterintuitive notion but one that is nonetheless true. i write in an episodic way, each chapter stands alone, to personify the issue we're talking about across this nation from what it means to really believe women in a court of law not just the court of public opinion to mistaken identity cases when you have a blink moment do something about it. even to my time in the voting rights section, civil rights division, about what the so-called post racial u.s. looks like when you're monitoring elections and the clawing back of voting rights. all of it is in this brand new book and it is time for people to really have a conversation and vicariously experience it and understand with empathy and an eye toward reform what it could mean if the pursuit of justice was finally caught, wolf. >> in very personal terms why was it so important for you to share these stories? >> i didn't want to have just a legal textbook you could find in a law school classroom. it was important for people to understand me as the actual vehicle of the story telling. i think of it as a form of activism and really helping people understand this is not meant to be a legal chronicle. it is meant to be an opportunity to have an eye toward what justice really looks like in america. we must know. >> once again the book is entitled "just pursuit, a black prosecutor's fight for fairness" the author laura coates. thank you so much for joining us and for writing this really important book. >> thank you. >> i hope our viewers go out and read it and buy it. to our viewers, thanks very much for watching. >> thank you. >> i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next trump's legal problems mounting. a georgia prosecutor zeroing in on the president, investigating his pressure on the state's top election official to overturn the election. the january 6th select committee zeroes in on ivanka trump asking her to sit down for an interview in a letter revealing incredible new details. plus president biden tries to clean up comments he made. world leaders say gives putin the green light to invade ukraine. tonight we'll take you there live. biden opening thdo

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