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title, he would be unable to break the grand slam record. his lawyers are appealing the ruling and australia's immigration officials will seek to interview djokovic tomorrow morning and detain him shortly after. >> joining us now, patrick mcenroe, espn tennis commentator, former u.s. davis cup captain. thank you for joining us. this decision from the australian officials comes after djokovic admitted to breaking covid protocols during an interview with reporters after he knew he tested positive a few weeks ago and comes after he admitted that his documents had lies on them to enter australia. now the immigration minister says your visa is canceled, your reaction to all this this morning. >> i think you're exactly right, in that the discrepancies that have come out through this process have played a part in this decision yet again to attempt, and i say attempt, to deport him, because it sounds like novak djokovic and his lawyers are going to fight this to the bitter end. as you said, the tournament is set to start in a couple of days, djokovic going for his record tenth australian open title. he's the top seed. the mood in the locker room, in addition to the mood in australia, from the citizens of australia, is we have had enough. and you're starting to hear that more from players, step stephano tsisipas came out publicly and said, you know, novak is playing by his own rules and this is making us, meaning all the other tennis players, by the way, all of whom are vaccinated, every player, john, this is interesting, every player that is due to play in the singles, male or female, in the draw at the australian open has been vaccinated except for novak djokovic. and the players, i think, have had enough of this whole circus atmosphere, but it sounds like it is going to continue for a couple more days. >> at least a couple days. the impact of this would be that the number one seed is removed before even playing a match. i can't think of a precedent for something like that. but it is interesting what you're telling me here, which is that the other players, who are 100% vaccinated in the singles draw, they're beginning to turn on djokovic. >> yeah, i think that's the case. i think they have had enough of this process, the fact -- they read the appeal, they say what happened with novak that he went to a public event, admitted he did that, you know, ticking the wrong box, to what country he had been to, he made a mistake there, probably an honest mistake, he claims it was his agents, that doesn't go over too well either, not after taking responsibility and he did say in his public statement, john, he wanted to clear up all the misinformation, i'm quoting, his statement. really, there is not a lot of misinformation, it is just the information that's coming out and since you put that public statement out, the tide has turned against him again. it has gone back and forth over the last few days, the australians i think initially didn't like the way he was treated, put in a detention center, it will be very interesting to see what they do with him now between now and the appeal process depend. a and will it be the same judge? the judge that decided the case the first time said, no, they didn't give djokovic enough time to prepare. well, now he's got enough time to prepare, so now it becomes does the minister of health have the ultimate authority, which he says he does, to kick djokovic out of the country if he might be a threat to health and safety of the citizens. that's all they have to prove. very, very intriguing as this goes on. a total soap opera. >> total. beyond a soap opera. they won't put this in a soap opera, so many twists and turns. three more days until it all opens. patrick mcenroe, i think we'll be talking to you again in the next few days. thank you very much. for first time the justice department is unveiling charges of seditious conspiracy. so what do these new charges tell us? here are five takeaways from our marshall cohen, who has been following these cases every step of the way. prosecutors here sending a clear message after criticism from lawmakers and legal experts who thought the doj was going too easy on the rioters. the charges also show the extent of advanced planning as we learned many of the rioters were expecting war. the indictment also shows the attack could have been far worse, the oath keepers accused of coordinating efforts to get inside the senate chamber. it was also clear that the plot went beyond january 6th, one defendant allegedly spent thousands of dollars on weapons and equipment to organize militias to oppose the biden administration. and finally, the charges show prosecutors are focusing on the top of the food chain, as some oath keepers have turned on the group's leaders. joining us is tasha adams the estranged wife of stewart rose, the leader of the oath keepers, who was indicted by the justice department in 2009. she helped him establish the group before it became the far right group it is today. tasha, thank you for being with us this morning. when this indictment came down, you wrote you were happy. why? >> so much relief. it felt like i had been -- there was a weight i had opinibeen carrying. i knew i lived in fear he might show up here. but the -- just setting that weight down and knowing we were safe and my kids were safe and my kids' school doesn't have to worry, that was a relief i didn't know existed. >> so i understand you're telling us you feel personally at risk from stewart. but i wonder what danger you feel, what threat you feel he poses to the country. >> he's a dangerous man. he is very dangerous. he lives very much in his own head. he sees himself as a great leader, he almost has his own mythology of himself and i think he almost made it come true as seeing himself as some sort of figure in history. and it sort of happened. he's a complete sociopath. he does not feel empathy for anyone around him at all. and, yeah. >> now, i understand you've been talking to the january 6th select committee. so you've been involved in the various investigations here. you say he is dangerous to the country, a dangerous man. what is it specifically you think he did in the events surrounding january 6th. >> excuse me, sorry. i think he planned it very carefully. i think he planned for himself to not get arrested by seemingly to stay out of the capitol himself. but that entire stack, the people that went in, the entire event, to me, i see his fingerprints all over it and i think even though from the outside, oh, i told them not to go in, we were just there for -- we were just there for, you know, to guard people, it is silly, but it is very -- it is also very carefully planned to keep him -- to keep himself out of trouble. it is what he did on a small scale on our family. i wasn't able to get a restraining order. it was denied because he seemed like such a great guy to the judge. this is just how he's always been. and there is a lot of indication there seeing him finally having to answer to some type of consequence for the first time in his entire life. >> based on what you know of the oath keepers and how it works, would the people who did go inside and do what they did, would they have ever done it without his direction and authority? >> it's hard to say. i -- my first response is probably not. but then again, he does tend to surround himself with the type of people that tend it fall into groups like that, that tend to fall -- follow some type of religion or they, you know, follow some type of ideology. very much the type of people who are sort of gullible and telemarketing firm type people, the type that gets caught up this things like that. possibly maybe they would have followed some other leader. but i think that -- i think stewart probably made a convincing case that they were going to succeed and all be heroes. >> you were there when the oath keepers was founded in 2009. when it began you say it was really based on libertarian values, small government. but then it changed into something you saw as dangerous. had how did that change? change into what? >> i -- in retrospect i would say maybe this was his plan all along, was to take it that direction. when oath keepers first started, there was a lot of democrats on board. a lot of former departments, a lot of ron paul libertarians, a lot of sort of politically sort of lost people that wanted to join up with something. and i wonder if he was sort of fooling everyone into -- here's what this is, we're basically the aclu, and then started just making that hard right turn. i mean, even though i haven't really spoken to him in four years, when the george floyd riots happened, i was still surprised on what side oath keepers came down on because it seems like the most obvious thing in the world that they would come down on the side of, you know, on the side of the protesters, given the original purpose of oath keepers, but, no, there was no other more obvious purpose to a group like oath keepers than to defend, you know, the protesters. but it didn't happen. >> what did you see or observe in terms of his view or attitudes or behavior, i think you might be frozen there. tasha, are you still with me? we'll see if we can get tasha back there. all right. i think that might be it with tasha adams, the estranged wife of the leader of the oath keeper stewart rhodes who is now indicted, charged with seditious conspiracy, first sedition charges to come in the january 6th attack. you heard her say she believes he was a dangerous man. next, cnn's sara sidner had run-ins with stewart rhodes and the oath keepers, personal experience of her own. she will join us. plus, president biden has had just a brutal week from the strategy on covid, to voting rights hitting major walls. and see what happens when nondoctor joe rogan gets fact checked on his own covid misinformation. >> let's look that up. because i don't think that's true. that's interesting. that is not what i've read before. nurse mariyam sabo knows a moment this pure... ...demands a lotion this pure. new gold bond pure moisture lotion. 24-hour hydration. no parabens, dyes, or fragrances. gold bond. champion your skin. 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and the oath keepers, and she is with us now. sara, we heard a fascinating interview that berman was doing with the estranged wife of rhodes, who really gave us a look into who he is. you, as well, have had some experience covering him and the oath keepers. tell us about your impressions. >> reporter: look, so the oath keepers became extremely visible. they have been around for a very long time. they became extremely visible, i think, to the public at large, in 2014. that was during the -- in ferguson. there was a killing of an unarmed black teenager by a white police officer. there were protests that lasted for literally months. almost half the year. and every now and then you would see these group of guys who would come out and would be armed, they would have on military gear, they would be standing out together obviously in a group, and they said they were out there to protect, for example, businesses. and so they became a presence, but they always were armed to the tee. they looked like they were on a mission. they are also known for going into places that had, for example, hurricane damage, and trying to help out. they got this dual role. but they always have been a group of people that you would see standing out armed and very much visibly armed, very much sort of military looking. i spoke to stewart rhodes after the arrest that resulted from january 6th, there were three people who were accused of not only being oath keepers, but breaching the capitol, and he said, yes, a couple of those folks are a part of my organization, the oath keepers. he said, you know, we -- all the things you hear may not be true. he said i don't necessarily agree with them going into the capitol. but, you know, there are some problems that we need to address with this administration. and then i went and looked at some pictures and video. and there he is, outside the capitol, you see him there, you see him standing with some other members of the oath keepers, and, you know, you have to wonder, you know what is going on. now, usually the oath keepers will tell you, look, we were there as guards for vips, that included roger stone, we saw an oath keeper with roger stone. we saw oath keepers doing what the military might call in a stack. and in those stacks, it is a military maneuver, one of the things that the oath keepers do is they try and recruit either current or former military, current or former members of law enforcement, current or former people who have been part of the intelligence apparatus in the united states, whether it be the fbi, cia, and anybody that they can get and bring into the organization, and when you think about that, it means that they have training tactical training to do something like this and to plan something like this. the question is will stewart rhodes be ensnared in that, he has been, a grand jury says that he was involved in this seditious activity, but, you know, he was very clear, 24 days after the breach of the capitol on january 6th, he went on to the right wing conspiracy spewing online apparatus and he talked about what he thought about this administration. he goes after the biden administration and appears to make some threats and he's still doing this, mind you, after we have all seen the attack on the capitol. here's what he had to say. >> you got to declare this regime to be illegitimate, you got to declare everything that comes out of king biden's mouth as illegitimate and null and void from inception because he's not a legitimate president. they have plans for us that they know we'll rebel against and they're afraid because there is 365 million of us. we outnumber them vastly and we're armed. we're well armed. so they have a problem. so they're afraid. >> reporter: you hear him say, you know, this san illegitimate administration and we're well armed. and if they're going to come after us, we're going to do something. and so it is interesting that he's still spewing the big lie, he's still going hard, he's still, you know, making it very clear that they are don't believe that this administration was legitimate and telling his followers and his members this very thing. and this is after the attack on the capitol. so what has to be proven, of course, is that he took part in the planning, because what we do know is that there is no evidence that he went into the capitol himself. it was some of the members of the oath keepers who did so. but, what the fbi has and what the prosecutors have is that some of those oath keepers who had been caught are now talking and they have got information that we have seen in that indictment. >> this could be just the beginning of what we're seeing now. sara sidner, thank you so much. so the supreme court delivers a crushing blow to president biden's pandemic response. and just the latest setback in a really brutal week for the white house. and covid restrictions across the uk did not put a damper on parties at ten downing street. a new revelation 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he had infrastructure, right? huge bill, build back better very much in jeopardy, voting rights apparently dead, what does that do for him? >> i'm reminded of an old saying, john mccain used to mangle this quote from chairman mao, it is darkest before it turns completely black. that's where joe biden is right now. just, you know, schools are closing, people out in the country have covid exhaustion, here in washington the president is disappointing his own base. he has two giant problems. one with the broader can country that didn't wake up every day with a checklist. what did joe biden do for me today. they wake up every day trying to live their very complicated stressful lives now in the beginning of year three of this pandemic, and candidate joe biden said i'm not donald trump, i'll be better at this. president joe biden back in july said we're going to begin a summer of freedom. well, people don't feel like they have that summer of freedom, do they, with omicron surging. so the covid frustration, the impact on schools, businesses, on the economy, on public health, has an exhausted country saying, you haven't given us what you promised. then his own base says, mr. president, you haven't given us what you promised. in a midterm election year, he needs to motivate his base. joe biden thought when he won in november he was going to have a democratic house and republican senate and he would be more of a centrist dealmaker. then they won those two senate seats in georgia and democratic expectations went off the charts. he's been unable to fulfill those expectations, and so he has that problem. the country is frustrated. his party is frustrated. we're two weeks into a midterm election year, a few days away from the one-year anniversary of inauguration and it is black. it is very dark for him right now. >> jen psaki tried to address this yesterday by saying the white house is trying to do hard things, the biden administration is trying to do hard things. that's the business of governing. the problem is is they really have nothing to show for it the last couple of months. they are on a very big losing streak. they're going to hate this framing, but the things they have tried to accomplish haven't worked out and they're having a hard time putting points on the board, john. >> they are. you mention the timing is important. it is true, joe biden, the american rescue plan, the covid relief act was hugely significant. the bipartisan infrastructure deal, that's no accident, go back to talking about something you did that actually worked. donald trump tried to get a big infrastructure plan, joe biden did. there are big achievements here. the unemployment rate is at a historic locate. they added 2 million people to obamacare because the biden administration is pushing to do it there are good numbers there. the big things, talk to your friends, talk to your family, people around the country, they're exhausted from this pandemic. so that's the big dynamic, the wind in his face. and, you're right, of late, of late, he's having a bad -- a miserable streak. in part because, again, they let expectations get so high. senator sinema and manchin are not saying anything different, whether changing the filibuster, big reconciliation package, they're not saying anything different today than day one of the biden administration. the president, through his own optimism, in this case, his enemy, raised expectations they were going to get all this done and they haven't. >> we were having a discussion with nina turner, of course, of bernie land, and jonathan kott of manchin land in the last hour and nina is -- i think she reflects a lot of progressives, she is very upset, she is very frustrated, she wants president biden to go fire up the jet and go after kyrsten sinema and joe manchin. jonathan kott says democrats have things they can celebrate, but can they? do you think they can go and celebrate ahead of the midterms their accomplishments successfully? >> it is hard to convince bernie sanders himself, that interview at the garden the other day, the democrats have simply failed and the biden administration needs a reset. look, again, to be fair to the president, he has a five-seat majority in the house and a 50/50 room for error in the united states senate and the rules essentially say you need 60 votes. this is incredibly hard. as we beat up on joe biden, doing any of these big things is not easy. but he keeps saying he can get them done. he did allow the expectations to build. the challenge here, brianna, is what happens in a midterm election, what happens in a midterm election when he needs nina turner and all the people who follow bernie sanders and nina turner progressives who are mad right now. they wanted voting rights, the $6 trillion reconciliation bill, which is now nothing. they wanted climate provisions, home healthcare help, they wanted more child care help, they have none of that at the moment. do they vote in november? do they vote in november saying we need to try again or say, you know why? my vote doesn't matter. that's the problem. especially in a midterm, motivating younger voters, disillusioned voters. joe biden needs every democrat to participate. we have been surprised. right now all the data, all the history tells you the democrats are in for a shellacking. we have been surprised many times in recent years because of the volatility of our politics and people have turned out. both for trump and for biden in huge numbers when we thought maybe they wouldn't. midterm year tends to be different. we got a long way to go. >> part of biden's problem is this unspoken promise that he held for many, right, on the one hand he was going to get these progressive dreams achieved, that people have been waiting for on the progressive side. on the other hand, he was going to heal the divide and govern in a bipartisan way like hasn't been done in a long time. it is hard to reconcile those two things, almost impossible to reconcile those two things and had a hard time doing it. john, on a separate note, no one covered bill clinton more than you d id. the way bill clinton dealt with adversity, start getting small things done. start getting anything done just so you can say i did this, i did this, i did this, i did this. are there those options available for joe biden to do the little things? >> i do think you will see more executive actions, because you just touched on part of the problem. bill clinton worked with newt gingrich and republican house back in those days. we had -- the last time they passed the budget following the rules, the complete rules. more than 25 years ago since they passed the united states budget the way they're supposed to do it. a president working with the speaker even throughout the monica lewinsky and impeachment and all that. they did do some small things. right now the republican party will give biden nothing and that's part of the dynamic. that's part of the dynamic. democrats when we pick on the president say what about the republicans and they're absolutely right, but the way i put that into context, joe biden knew that on day one. joe biden has known since day one of his presidency the republicans are going to say, no, and he has to try to navigate this environment. so, john, yes, i think you will see can they break pieces, can they break the climate pieces out, can they break a child credit out, can they break home care out. washington has run away from one thing at a time in the last 25 years and maybe that's the way for the president to start and try, but every day we get closer to the election, republicans are going to say, no. one other quick footnote, the numbers are bleak now. we talk about that inflation. 40 years. inflation hasn't been this high in 40 years. ronald reagan was that president. did not do well on the midterm election, he won 49 states in the next presidential election. that's not bad. 49 out of 50 states, i'm pretty sure that's pretty good. >> he only got 49, though. there was one -- there was one more. >> i say that not to say joe biden is going to win 49 states in a few years. i say that to say we have these conversations in the moment, we need to be careful, things can change. if the covid numbers by easter or by memorial day are a ton better, if the economy is roaring back by easter or memorial day and it looks better, we'll have to have this conversation again. everything -- the covid funk in the can country is something we need to go through every day, every week to see if it changes. >> bad funk. not the bootsy collins kind of funk. it is the kind of funk you don't want. >> i got nothing on that. >> john, thank you so much. we'll be watching you at noon today on "inside politics." up next, a menace to public health. that's what our next guest is calling podcaster joe rogan as hundreds of health experts call on spotify to take action. and which team plays better in sub-zero temperatures? 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>> talk about moving the goal post. now 270 health experts are calling on spotify to take action, writing in an open letter, quote, by allowing the propagation of false and societally harmful assertions, spotify is enabling its hosted media to damage public trust and scientific research and so doubting the credibility of data-driven guidance offered by medical professionals. let's talk about this now with an epidemiologist who signed that letter, dr. catrine wallace. thank you for being with us this morning. can you speak broadly, i want to ask you about the moment with joe rogan, but, first, can you just speak broadly with the large fan base that joe rogan has what is the joe rogan effect on his listeners? >> thank you for having me. yes, a podcast of this size that joe rogan has, and the effect of misinformation spreading to such a large audience, they have sort of a responsibility to the public during a public health emergency to protect the public from this kind of misinformation and harmful information going to the public. and right now we have 26% of our population that is still unvaccinated, and misinformation like this directly contributes to that. >> is part of what he was making there the case against vaccines, was he was trying to say there is such a risk of myocarditis for a certain age group with the vaccine, in fact, he was fact checked that the risk of myocarditis from actual covid is many times higher. what did you think of his response to that when he then went on to say, well, where are we getting this from? >> it is very concerning because, you know, joe rogan is an entertainer, he is not a public health or medical professional. and listening to, you know, the -- there has been rare cases of myocarditis detected in young males after the second dose of the mrna vaccines, however as the guest correctly pointed out, the risk in covid-19 is far greater than in -- with the vaccine, so actually with the amount of transmission we have of covid-19 right now, we're actually preventing myocarditis by vaccinating because the risk is so much higher in covid-19. >> eight times higher, you know, as we saw there. actually very illuminating moment. so you sign this letter, how do you want spotify to address his misinformation? >> we would just like spotify to have a clear and public policy to moderate misinformation on their platform because as i mentioned before, we're in a public health emergency, so it is the responsible it ty they have to the public to protect them from this kind of harmful information. when information like this is on a huge platform, it creates a false balance as if there is two sides to the scientific information, and really there is not. the overwhelming evidence is that the vaccine works and they are safe. >> yeah, so well put. dr. wallace, really appreciate you being with us this morning. >> thank you so much for having me. here's what else to watch today. so despite a parole board recommending it, gavin newsom denies parole for rfk's assassin. hear why. and it could be one of the coldest football matchups in nfl history. so who will prevail here? 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we know they both have very good defenses. the bills are ranked number one. i believe the patriots are ranked number four. they're both in the top half of the league in offense, but the fact is that the bills have a far superior offense, about ten ranks ahead, they're in the top five in offenses, the patriots are right near the middle of the league. why is that important? because if we look back at the last few games that the patriots and bills have played against each other this year, what do we know? we know the patriots won one of those games. we know that the bills won one of those games. but the game that the bills won was when the weather was just right, it was nice, up in new england. when the patriots won, it was quite windy, it was quite windy in buffalo and you mentioned this third matchup, single digit temperatures are forecasted, so we're looking more in the bad weather than the good weather so maybe your idea that the bills are favored, maybe not so much in the cold weather. >> interesting. i like where you're headed with that. in general, how does cold weather affect games? >> if we look back at playoff games since 1980, i went on my computer, i went to stat head, and basically what we see is that in colder weather, when the temperature is ten degrees or below, the average offense gets about 296 yards. versus when it is above ten degrees, they get 338 yards. so this is an indication that offenses may in fact struggle when the weather is quite cold out there, and, of course, that's an important point because the bills have the far superior offense to the patriots than compared to the defense with the bills even though they have a slightly better defense than the patriots, they're far closer ranked in offense. if this is a shootout, the bills win. the patriots want to keep it low scoring. to keep it low scoring, they can win like they won in the first meeting in orchard park. >> oh, my god, look where we are right now, we're in the situation room. and in this case, the situation room appears to be wolf blitzer's basement on his treadmill. >> very low tech situation room here in the situation room home edition. just got off -- just been working out on the treadmill. i'm watching you guys. as you know, i'm from buffalo. i love our buffalo bills. always have. ever since i was a little boy growing up in buffalo, my dad would take me to bills games. harry, you're from new york. why do you love the buffalo bills? >> because they're the only new york team, isn't that obvious? i had a family friend from western new york who helped put me on the right path. unfortunately they -- there was a long time where they hadn't won since my bar mitzvah. we have turned that around, wolf. and i got to tell you, i am so looking forward to tomorrow night's game. it is going to remind us of the old afl matchups at the rock pile at war memorial stadium. >> i remember those games well. and john berman, you're from boston. so you want the patriots to win. i understand that. it makes sense. but, you know what, we're really devoted bills fans, i go back four super bowls in a row the bills played and unfortunately we lost four super bowls in a row. but i have good feelings, i'm nervous right now. but i have good feelings. >> you just mentioned those super bowls, wolf. i'm curious, how you're going to spend the playoff game tomorrow and tell me how you celebrated past bills super bowl victories. >> well, unfortunately i haven't celebrated any past super bowl victories. i know you celebrated the new england patriots past super bowl victories. we're ready. we're moving on. i will be -- it is going to be cold in buffalo. i won't be in buffalo. i would have have loved to have been in buffalo. i love everybody in western new york. i'm going to be watching it in the warmth of my home on television like millions and millions of other bills fans. so we'll be ready. >> do you have any good luck charms? >> you're seeing it right now. the shirt, you see -- i have a lot of bills shirts and hats and blankets. all sorts of bills cups. i have a lot of good bills equipment. harry, are you going to be eating buffalo food during the game? buffalo chicken wings, for example, or pizza? >> you know i'm a huge fan of chicken wings and buffalo wings. i can't help but eat the fried foods. that's what part of the experience is all about when you're watching a football game. the thing i point out, john, though the bills have never won a super bowl, we did win two afl titles back in the mid-60s in '64 and '65, able to beat the san diego chargers, you lost to that team in 1963 afl championship. we have beaten a team in the championship game that you did not. we have that over you and i have a good feeling, you know, as long as that offense gets going tomorrow night, as long as josh alan can throw that ball, we're going to have a nice conversation on monday. perhaps even sunday i'll give you a call up on your number and drag your nose through it a little bit. >> how did you celebrate those two bills afl championships? >> being it was an altered life and i would like to think i'm a 75-year-old man, i celebrated it with a corned beef pastrami sandwich with a side of dr. brown's cream soda. >> how about a wager here? if the bills win, harry enten gets to anchor "the situation room," and if the patriots -- if the patriots win, you become our guest on "new day" every morning for a full week. >> let's just hope -- i'm a little nervous about making predictions right now. i have been through a lot of bills games over the years. i just want to see what happens and i just want our buffalo bills to win. you know, john, i want brianna to know this as well, i don't know if you know, eric hall, your executive producer knows, i watch "new day" every day on this treadmill for one hour. exactly one hour. and i learn a lot about what was going on in the u.s. and around the world and i'm grateful for you guys for what you do. >> we're good for cardio and stability. wolf blitzer, thank you very much. harry enten, appreciate it. >> go, bills! >> harry, i'll point out and john, i'll point out, i'm a little afraid of the -- so i'm not making any predictions right now. cnn's coverage continues right now. i'll explain, brianna, after this. oking for answers, it's good to have help. because the right information, at the right time, may make all the difference. at humana, we know that's especially true when you're looking for a medicare supplement insurance plan. that's why we're offering "seven things every medicare supplement should have". it's yours free, just for calling the number on your screen. and when you call, a knowledgeable licensed agent-producer can answer any questions you have, and help you choose the plan that's right for you. the call is free, and there's no obligation. you see, medicare covers only about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you! that's why so many people purchase medicare supplement insurance plans like those offered by humana. they're designed to help you save money and pay some of the costs medicare doesn't. depending on the medicare supplement plan you select, you could have no deductibles or copayments for doctor visits, hospital stays, emergency care and more! you can keep the doctors you have now, ones you know and trust, with no referrals needed. plus you can get medical care anywhere in the country, even when you're traveling. with humana, you get a competitive monthly premium and personalized service from a healthcare partner working to make healthcare simpler and easier for you. you can choose from a wide range of standardized plans. each one is designed to work seamlessly with medicare, and help save you money. so how do you find the plan that's right for you? 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