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that's considerably down from october and november when inflation was up .8 and .9% respectively. one reason why it came down in december, why the rate of inflation was slower in december is because energy prices actually fell after growing 6% in october and november. they actually fell half a percent in december. >> okay. matt eagen joins us now. give us your take. >> well, clearly the cost of living is going up. in some cases, pretty dramatically. consumer prices up by 7% from a year ago. the biggest spike in 39 years. month over month, yes, price gains did decelerate, but they will still up by more than expected. we have this line chart that shows how headline inflation continues to move in the wrong direction. it's really going straight up. it's the eighth month in a row where we've seen 5% or higher inflation. the federal reserve's goal is for 2% inflation. we are nowhere near that. so we also need to talk about how some of these specific price gains are really in record breaking territory. full service meals, fast food, men's apparel and new cars and trucks. they're all up by the most on record and as anyone who's been to the gas station or the grocery store can attest to, food and energy has been a real sore spot. food prices overall, up by more than 6% from a year ago. th that's the most since 2008. chicken prices up by more than 10%. fish and seafood, that's up at a ten-year high. gas prices, nearly 50% higher than a year ago. we need to remember that a lot of this is covid relate. the health crisis caused this supply chain turmoil, but that is very little consolation to the families whose paychecks are in the going as far as they used to. >> jared bernstein got to it before i could. i said 5% from november to december. .5% is the accurate number. let me ask you about what the president said in december. he said he believed inflation was at its peak. we see that it's still growing. is there anything that the white house can do to fight this? >> well, this is a complex problem and no president really has unilateral power to do all that much to inflation in the short-term. now i spoke to a senior white house official today about these numbers and about those prior comments from the president and this official conceded that they don't have a chrirystal ball toy when inflation is going to peak, but that the administration is doing everything it can to keep prices in check including trying to address the health crisis and supply chain turmoil. and those i talk to are cautiously optimistic that in the comes months, inflation may peak. maybe this winter or spring. but the better question might be where does inflation land once it peaks? because if price gains continue to be elevated well above the fed's 2% target, that is going to be a real problem for the economy and remember, as much we talk about the white house, it's the fed's job to maintain price stability and prices are ending up stable. so the question is whether or not the fed can fight inflation without doing too much that it actually hurts the economic recovery. >> all right, matt eagen, thank you. two of the nation's top health officials are offering a blunt assessment for the trajectory of the pandemic. >> dr. fauci says omicron will quote find just about everybody. nick watt has today's coronavirus headlines. >> most people are going to get covid, all right, and what we need to do is make sure the hospitals can still function. >> right now, nearly three quarters of a million of americans are on average catching covid every day. >> omicron, with its unprecedented degree of transmissibility, will ultimately find just about everything. >> at united, 3,000 staff have covid right now. forced to trim schedules. chicago's mayor just tested positive. so did west virginia's governor. i feel thankful to the lord i've been boosted. that being said, i feel extremely unwell. the omicron surge appears to be peaking in parts of the northeast. >> over the past week, covid-19 cases have remained extremely high, but they may be starting to plateau. >> we are not at the end, but i want to say this is to me, a glimmer of hope. a glimmer of hope at a time when we desperately need that. >> but plenty pain to come. more covid patients are in the hospital now than ever before. the average daily death toll is now -- >> about 1600 per day, which is an increase of about 40% over the previous week. >> this morning in chicago, kids are back in school after the dispute between unions and officials over covid safety measures. other short staffed school dist districts appealing to parents to sign up as substitute teachers. >> if we could get 50 to 100, that's better than what we have now. >> now, masks can halve the dista distance droplets travel says a new study. the cdc expected to update its mask information, making clear all masks are not created equal. n95s are better than cloth. >> we should be wearing the best possible masks that we can get. >> so, will the white house now be shipping better quality masks around the country? well, we heard this from white house coordinator. he says that they are in the process right now of strongly considering options to make more high quality masks available to all americans. feels like that might be just a little too late. guys? >> okay. nick watt, thank you very much for that report. dr. rob davidson is going to join us now. he's an emergency room physician in michigan. also the executive director of the committee to protect healthcare. great to see you. this is a major paradigm shift, i think, from what we're hearing from public officials. it used to be avoid getting covid at all costs. stay indoors if you must. then the vaccines came and now it's, most people are going to get covid and if you're vaccinated, you're probably going to be able to avoid hospitalization and death. >> yeah. and i think what dr. fauci really said is most people will come in contact with covid and the risk of getting infected if you're vaccinated is still about 5 to 7 times lower than if you're unvaccinated and if you get infected, the risk is another seven times lower and the risk of dying is about 15 times lower. so everything tells us if you are vaccinated, those multilayers of protection against severe disease, but even getting infected in the first place, are still there. public health isn't black and white, unfortunately, so it's degrees of risk and your risk is way lower if you get the vaccine. >> but there is still this significant, vulnerable portion of our population who is not eligible for a vaccine. those under 5 years old. i mean, what do you tell parents? how did they receive what they heard from dr. fauci and the acting fda commissioner? they can't mask their 18 month old. you can't stay away from a toddler and they can't get the vaccine. >> right. we know those kids are very unlikely to get extremely sick. i think it's all about degrees of risk people are willing to tolerate. we have conversations with people when they have certain symptoms, do we do certain tests that result in possible false positives that could lead to more tests or more concerns, you know, and we make those shared decisions with patients. i think families have to do that among themselves. i think they need to protect the most vulnerable. but i do think you know, emerging from the extreme lockdowns is the goal for all of us and getting more people vaccinated who are eligible would protect all of those folks who can't get vaccinated. >> i want to bounce off you something the french president said. i'm quoting him. he said i'm happy to piss off the unvaccinated. basically denying their access to restaurants and theatres, et cetera, without vaccination cards. you have shared with us many times how often you encounter pissed off, unvaccinated people. do we want more of them? would that work here in the u.s.? >> you know, i don't know if i would choose his words, but i'm honestly frankly tired of people who are against early on mitigation measures. masking and locking down certain activities and now who are against vaccines and vaccine mandates, but i'm tired of them dominating the headlines of the ones who are angry and the ones who are protesting. i think those of us who are doing the right things, those of us just trying to keep our hospitals afloat during these waves of covid, we need to start getting a little bit pissed off and i think if it makes life a bit uncomfortable for them where they maybe can't drive domestically, can't go to restaurants or shows, can't participate in aspects of society they may want to participate in, hopefully that will drive people to get vaccinated so they can join the rest of us in living our lives. >> well, in quebec, they're adding a new unvaccinated tax and they're requiring people to be vaccinated to buy cannabis and alcohol. so maybe that would work for some people. doctor, thank you. >> thank you, guys. a short time ago, mitch mcconnell delivered a scathing rebuke of president biden's voting rights speech yesterday. >> he compared, listen to this, a bipartisan majority of senators to literal traitors. how profoundly unpresidential. >> mcconnell also said he did not recognize the man behind the podium. we'll speak to senator tammy duckworth about that, next. and some north carolina voters are trying to block congressman madison hawthorne from running for re-election because of his role on january 6th. we'll explain their plan. what's g going on? 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>> it's so interesting that this happened in honduras. this flight on its way to miami. you can see in the video american airlines flight 488 just before it departed. this man who american says during the boarding process, lunged through the jetway then in through the open cockpit door and then poked his head out of the window of the flight deck. that window is actually able to open by the flight crew. they use that in case of emergencies or if they need to ventilate the cockpit. it's a pretty long drop down from the flight deck window to the ground. about 15 or 20 feet. pilots would typically get down to the ground using a rope. thankfully, this guy who tried to get out of the plane did not ultimately jump and was apprehended. american airlines says some of its flight crew was involved in trying to get this man detained. we know he was arrested. so interesting though that this is happening at a time when there have been 5981 unruly passenger incidents reports by the faa in 2021. so far just a few in 2022 and the faa underscores the rate of these incidents has gone edit a bit, but maybe one of the most egregious acts we've seen since the start of this trend began rearing its head last year. >> honestly, the things that flight crews have to deal with now. tell us about this medevac helicopter that crashed yesterday outside of philadelphia. what happened? >> well, it's really pretty remarkable. four people on board. the pilot, the medical crew, and a 2-month-old baby girl and they all survived as this helicopter crashed down just in front of the church in a neighborhood in philadelphia. police are calling this a miracle. people on the road there, urban area, grabbed the baby to keep her away from the wreckage. this video showed the moments after the crash, the helicopter was smoking. there was fuel leaking out of it. bystanders rushed in to help, which is a very good thing. if there was a mechanical issue here, a helicopter can be really difficult to control under those circumstances. a pilot has to tamp down their startle factor and try and get this helicopter under control relatively quickly. we don't know if that is the case just yet. the weather was good. the ntsb is on the scene. we'll learn more at a press conference this afternoon, but exactly what brought this helicopter down. this helicopter was going from central pennsylvania all the way to the children's hospital of philadelphia, but this incident happened only a few miles short of that hospital. >> no fatalities on board on the ground. that's remarkable. thank you, pete. two sitting members of congress may hold key information for the january 6th investigation. the committee is now trying to figure out how to get them to talk. we're live on capitol hill with the latest, next. and here's a look at some other events we're watching today. narrator: on a faraway beach, the generation called "our greatest" saved the world from tyranny. in an office we know as "oval," a new-generation president faced down an imminent threat of nuclear war. on a bridge in selma, alabama, the preacher of his time marched us straight to passing voting rights for every american. at a gate in west berlin, a late-generation american president demanded an enemy superpower tear down a wall and liberate a continent. american generations answering the call of their time with american ideals. freedom. liberty. justice. for today's generation of leaders, the call has come again to protect our freedom to vote, to fortify our democracy by passing the freedom to vote act and the john lewis voting rights act because america - john lewis: we are not going back, we are going forward. 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is that fair? >> no, again, you know, mitch mcconnell's doing everything he can to continue to help republicans across this country try to change voting right law, restrict people's abilities to vote and frankly, mcconnell himself on the night on january 6 condemned president trump. we've watched over the past nine months as republicans have slowly moved back, run back to donald trump and continued to support the big lie. we're at a point now that i didn't think was going to happen on the evening of january 6 when we were all talking about how insurrection was not how democracy was supposed to proceed. i think it is very much, very important that president biden step up and say listen, it's time to protect people's rights to vote. >> senator mcconnell doesn't see it that way. he doesn't think this is a dire situation. he also made the point president biden was in georgia where according to senator mcconnell, voting rights are more progressive than they are in some other states including delaware and new york. he said georgia has more days of early voting than delaware and new york. georgia has no excuse absentee voting. if georgia presents a jim crow emergency, then so do a whole number of democrat-run states. do you have a response to that? >> well, you know, these voting rights restrictions are happening all across the country. by the way, georgia now has made it polls only open from 9:00 to 5:00 if you want to vote. if you're a service member like me, if you work a job where you're on the clock from 9:00 to 5:00 and you want to early vote, you can't because the polls are shut. by the way, state who sent out ballots, mail-in absentee ballots to every voter in georgia, something military members rely on, yet new laws in georgia make it illegal to send out absentee ballots to all of the registered voters. you know, frankly, i spent 23 years in the army defending democracy. >> let's talk about what happens next because had you given up on getting any republicans, even the republicans who have denounced former president trump's election lies, the republicans who in 2006 did vote to reauthorize the voting rights act. we have a picture we can put up. there were all of these senators who are still sitting senators who back then believed in the tenants of these voting rights, but today don't. you know, senator susan collins, tim scott, rob portman, who in 2015, went with jon lewis to selma to talk about voting rights, have you given up on getting any of them to come on board with this? >> to come on board publicly with a vote, yes, i've given up because they've told me privately that voting rights is a red line for mitch mcconnell. that they cannot cross that line and even if they want to support the voting rights legislation we're developing, the only input they want to have is behind the scenes and we've taken a lot of my republicans colleagues concerns, many want a voter id card, so we've included that in several different proposals, especially the one joe manchin is heading up. they've made it clear, mitch mcconnell has made it clear to republicans in the senate, this is a red line for him. this is going to be something that is going to take 50 democrats to pass. >> i mean, that's going to of course, that brings in the filibuster. it's interesting because senator manchin has tried to lobby some republicans to get on board and those efforts didn't go anywhere. but he also is quite firm thus far on not wanting to get rid of the filibuster as sinema, so where does that leave you? >> we're not proposing getting rid of the filibuster. we're just proposing restoring it to what it was pre jim crow era instead of requiring 60 votes to move ahead, we should have 40 plus votes to stop a bill. it's about allowing congress to move forward and returning the filibuster back to where it used to be. it used to be you only had one a year. now it's a matter where you can have a single senator stop any piece of legislation from moving forward. >> do you have any indication that senator manchin or sinema would be open to those types of measures? the talking filibuster, et cetera? >> i do think so. joe has mentioned, i believe this week he suppose to some press and said he would consider reforming filibuster. that's all i'm asking for. let's just get it back to where our founders imagined it to be. wasn't meant to be somebody that allowed a single senator to stop everything from moving forward. >> senator, thank you for your time. obviously we'll be watching closely. >> thank you. some prominent right wingers are using an already bad edit of an interview with the cdc director and making it much worse. we'll fact check them in a moment. helps keep baby's skin drier and healthier. so every touch will protect like the first. pampers ever wonder what everyone's doing on their phones? 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>> we are definitely planning to file a series of these challenges. i don't want to talk about specific members just yet. but representative cawthorn is the first, but he will not be the last. >> let me pull that thread that you left at the end of your last answer about shifting the burden and something our legal analyst put us on to in north carolina law. if i think i've got the right one. chapter 163, article 127, section 5, subsection a which reads the burden of proof shall be upon the candidate who must show by a preponderance of the evidence of the record as a whole, that he or she is qualified to be a candidate for the office, which means you can bring the accusation, the allegation to the lawsuit, but it's now on him to say that no, i was not part of an insurrection. do i have that right? >> that is how the burden shifting works in north carolina. the evidence we've put forth is enough that unless he wants to comment and try and present his case, which he's entitled to do, the state board of elections will be compelled to rule that he is disqualified. >> let me pull that other thread you left out there. what other evidence have you seen that he was involved in the planning of the event? >> well, the initial evidence includes the fact that he has, was reported by a group of organizing the events that the pre-attack demonstration that led to the violent attack that he and his team were among a small group of members of congress who are in close communication with the planners of the events that day that was reported in rolling stone of course and the select committee has listed him as among a small group of congressmen for whom they've sent orders to social media and telephone companies to preserve records of communications. i think in this case, our action may get ahead of where the january 6th select committee is, but cawthorn seems to be based on the publicly available evidence and public reports in that smaller group that was involved. not just in speaking at the demonstration, but in helping to plan it. >> all right. thank you so much. and i should say we reached out to the congressman's office for a response, but did not receive a supply. this just in. multiple sources tell us the latest north korean missile launch demonstrated suprising capabilities. we have the details ahead. seen it. trust me, after 15 walks... gets a little old. ugh expand your limits in the 2022 lexus gx with apple carplay support. get 2.49% apr financing on the 2022 gx 460. ♪ age before beauty? 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>> reporter: u.s. officials familiar with this launch, this north korea launch of a missile this week says it demonstrates some surprising capabilities that they were sort of surprised by what they saw, and that is of course amid the fact that the united states is still doing its full assessment, right, of what exactly happened, what exactly north korea accomplished in this launch. and you talked to other u.s. officials who weren't all that surprised because they say that north korea said that they launched their first hypersonic missile last year. they say that north korea has as recently as just a few weeks ago said that they're working on new missile developments for war fighting. this is the trajectory that north korea was headed in. the context here is also important. the biden administration has not had any diplomatic contact substantively with the north koreans. they have made overtures, they haven't been responded to, and i'm told that u.s. officials don't plan to reach out to north korea anytime between now and march. that's because in march there's a south korean elections. u.s. and south korean officials don't think they can get anything done diplomatically with north korea between now and then. now, of course this comes as north korea continues to develop its program. we will wait to learn more from u.s. officials about what they have found in terms of this new missile launch that north korea is claiming was a hypersonic missile launch, but the united states today ruling out sanctions as you said earlier on five north korean individuals, one north korean entity, for supporting their weapons of mass destruction and their missile development programs. the biden administration sending a signal that they are not holding back on sanctions, the main thing that north korea wants lifted. alisyn, victor. >> kiley atwood, thank you so much. former president donald trump takes a thinly veiled shot at florida governor ron desantis for not outright saying whether he has had the covid-19 booster. we have more on that story ahead. dove precisely repairs so there are almost no signs... of visible damage. dove intensive repair. number one beauty brand not tested on animals. that was quick. and rewarding. i earn 3% cash back at drugstores with chase freedom unlimited. that means i earn on my bug spray and my sunscreen. you ready to go fishing? 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>> so there were two separate problems here that resulted in a lot of people getting a false impression of what the cdc director said. as victor pointed out, good morning america deleted key sentences. abc said it did this for time reasons, that edit made the meaning less clear. some right wing commentators cut down the comments to eleven out of context seconds and described her comments falsely. one false tweet came from radio and tv host clay travis. travis wrote the cdc director just said over 75% of covid deaths occurred in people with at least four comorbidities, but this is not what walensky said which we'll hear in a moment. when she talked about 75% of people having four comorbidities, she was not discussing all 800,000 covid deaths, she was talking about a particular small group of deaths that were described in a new study. that study looked at 1.2 million fully vaccinated people. of those 1.2 million fully vaccinated people, 36 of them had a death associated with covid-19, and of those 36 people who died, 28 of them, about 78% or over 75%, had four or more risk factors for having a severe covid outcome, those risk factor include being older than 65. having a variety of significant chronic illnesses. the cdc has been very clear since 2020 that people with health conditions are at higher covid risk than people without them. contrary to travis's conspiratorial suggestion, this hasn't been hidden until now. walensky was not saying that 75% of all u.s. covid deaths were among people with four or more comorbidities. after this controversy erupted on monday, abc released walensky's full comments online, adding back the key sentences they left out of the tv segment on "good morning america" on friday. listen to her comment. >> an important study, if i may summarize it, a study of 1.2 million people who were vaccinated between september and october, demonstrated that severe disease occurred in about 0.015% of the people who were receiving a primary series and death in .003% of those people. the overwhelming number of deaths, over 75%, occurred in people who had at least four comorbidities, so really these are people who were unwell to begin with. and yes, really encouraging news in the context of omicron, this means not only just to get your primary series, but to get your booster series, and yes, we're really encouraged by these results. >> so once again, alisyn, and victor, the full comments show walensky did not say what a bunch of people on the right are claiming. >> and abc has loudly and fully corrected the record now? >> what they did is released the full footage on monday, and at the end of the full footage, they put in a text note saying that the friday footage on tv had been edited they say for time reasons. when i asked them for comment, they didn't provide any, they just said take a look at the note. >> daniel dale, thank you very much for explaining all of this. >> thank you. the top of a brand new hour. good to be with you, i'm victor blackwell. >> and i'm alisyn camerota. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell just slammed president biden's speech pushing for a change to the senate's filibuster

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