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russia, as well as more military assets moving into eastern europe and ukraine. while both sides emerged without any real victory, discussions did move forward on other issues. including the positioning of missiles that point at each other and how the two countries could carry out military exercises with more transparency. but it remains to be seen whether russia is taking this diplomacy seriously. or intends to invade ukraine regardless. >> we have to be prepared that russia was using this week of diplomacy and the meeting with the united states as a pretext for conflict. that they very well may walk away from these discussions and declare that diplomacy has failed. >> reporter: jake, we have just learned from numerous sources speaking to our colleagues that in the lead up to these talks just a few weeks ago in late december, the biden administration released another $200 million in military aid for ukraine. of course, that could go way up if russia decides to invade ukraine. for now the focus is on diplomacy and the talks are moving from here in geneva to brussels and vienna to include more countries including talks with nato on wednesday. >> alex marquardt, thank you so much. cnn's matthew chance is live in moscow. matthew, russia has not taken any steps to de-escalate the situation leading up to the talks. what does the kremlin have to say about this week's negotiations? >> well, i mean, it's playing down, frankly, jake, any expectations of a solid breakthrough when it comes to this raft of negotiations being engaged in over this week. it says it's got these red lines that it's put out there. sort of extraordinary demands. first of all for nato not to be expanded any further towards its borders. it sees that as a national security threat but also for military activity to be scaled back inside countries that join nato after the fall of the soviet union. obviously, these are the kinds of demands that are characterized as nonstarters. not just by u.s. officials but by western officials, nato officials in general. and so it's pretty clear at this stage after this first day of negotiations at this time taking place in geneva that russia is not going to get that. but, you know, that doesn't necessarily mean that's a green light for conflict in ukraine. there are other things that russia could get. for instance, i think it was mentioned in that report there, there's the possibility of a compromise from the u.s. on reviving a treaty on deploying nuclear missiles inside the continent of europe. there's talks about the possibility of scaling back nato military exercises and more transparency when it comes to the nato military alliance and russia. more discussions about that. there's also that diplomatic issue. remember over the past couple of years, russia and the united states have really expelled each other's diplomats and both countries want that diplomatic relations bit to be reset so they can get a proper number of diplomats working in each other's respective embassies again. so it's not going to get the big maximalist demands that it's been asking for, but it might get something less than that. and that would be an achievement. >> matthew chance in moscow, thanks. joining us to discuss, state department spokesman ned price. thanks for joining us. no breakthroughs today we're told. does the u.s. feel any progress was made? were these talks worth the time? >> jake, there were no breakthroughs but neither did we intend for there to be any breaks through. this was our first opportunity to test the proposition that the russians are serious and steadfast and sincere as we are when it comes to the diplomatic path. you heard from secretary blinken yesterday. you heard from president biden that insofar as we consider it, there are two paths moscow can choose to walk. the path of diplomacy, dialogue that could have the potential to lead to de-escalation or the path of defense. and deterrence. so even today, as we were starting down this path of dip lomacy and dialogue, to see if we could achieve progress through reciprocal measures with the russian federation, we're continuing to work closely with allies, partners. that includes nato, european allies, ukrainian partners on this path of defense and deterrence. if moscow makes clear that they have no interest in this diplomacy. what i can say about today it was substantive, frank, candid, useful. also eight hours. so it wasn't for the faint of heart. we're very fortunate to have representing us deputy secretary of state wendy sherman who, of course, is no stranger to the russians. no stranger to some of the most pressing challenges we've faced and face now. that includes iran, north korea and just about everything else under the son. >> secretary of state blinken told me that russia has a gun to ukraine's head. why wasn't ukraine at the table today? its fate is what's being discussed. >> jake, there is a principle that for us is sack rosankt. nothing about them without them. nothing about ukraine without ukraine. as you know, president biden has now had a couple opportunities to speak to president zelensky. secretary blinken has had a couple of opportunities and to the ukrainian foreign minister. we have made very clear that we are going to continue to coordinate closely, not only with ukraine but also with european allies and with nato. and so ukraine will be at the table when the osce, the organization for security and cooperation in europe, meets later this week. but we were also very clear that today's discussions would not broach issues that pertain to exclusively ukraine or nato or europe. this was a bilateral channel. a bilateral channel between the united states and europe, between the united states and russia. that was set up months ago. we have met twice with the russians in this context already. we made clear that there may be areas in terms of strategic stability where we can achieve these so-called reciprocal measures where the russians take steps that were done positively to the security of the united states, to the security of europe, to the security of ukraine and everyone else. and steps that might help to address what the russians have stated are their own concerns. but we are very steadfast in this principle. nothing about them without them. that's why we've undertaken more than 100 engagements. many of those taking part from the department of state, meetings, phone calls, teleconferences, video conferences with our european allies and our partners, of course, to include the ukrainians. >> one of the things i'm sure you've heard from-- ukrainians is nordstream 2. ted cruz is pushing for a vote this week for sanctions against nordstream 2 saying it will give moscow too much pressure. zelensky supports cruz's bill. our sources tell us the state department is actually lobbying democrats to not support the cruz legislation. why not? >> so, jake, we have been very clear that one of the most effective if not the most effective tools we have in our arsenal when it comes to russian aggression and that includes energy coercion, is trans-atlantic unity. is having a united front with our european allies, with our european partners as well against russia. and that's what we've been able to put together in recent months. we do not wish to do anything that would undermine that most potent tool nour arsenal when it comes to russia's potential use of energy as a weapon. we're concerned this amendment would do just that. so we're very clear that we want to take steps to buttress that trans-atlantic unity. and let me make one other point here, jake. the germans have spoken in no uncertain terms that if russia were to move forward with continued aggression against ukraine, it would be an extraordinarily unlikely prospect that gas would flow through the nordstream 2 pipeline. there's a lot of talk in this town and elsewhere that nordstream 2 is a source of leverage for vladimir putin. there's no gas running in it right now. if the russians want to see -- if they want to achieve their ends with nordstream 2, they know that invading ukraine, continuing to egress against ukraine is not the way to do that. in fact, they know they must not do so and they've heard that very clearly from the germans, from the united states and clearly from the trans-atlantic community, a community that we have spoken with one voice in recent weeks and recent months. >> ned, ukraine wants the sanctions on nordstream 2. why does their concern matter so little? >> jake, i don't want to lend the impression that any ukrainian concern isn't a concern to us. ukraine's energy independence and energy security is a paramount concern for us. that's why we've worked with our ukrainian partners, with our german allies to provide a green climate fund for ukraine, to ensure that the transit fees that nordstream 2 would otherwise deprive them of continue. we've taken a number of other steps to help ukraine with this energy transition. this is -- these are steps aimed not only at the near term but also at the long term. longer term over the coming years and well beyond to make ukraine much less dependent on flows of energy, including russian gas through ukrainian territory. that's our ultimate goal. that's what we're working very closely with ukraine, germany and others on. we've made tremendous progress on that. >> state department spokesman ned price, thanks for your time today. life interrupted. not enough emts to respond to nonurgent 911 calls. kids taking city buses instead of school buses because so many school bus drivers are out sick. a look at the ripple effect of omicron. then the $750 billion prediction no one wanted to come true. the price tag of climate change. stay with us. financial picture. a plan with tax-smart investing strategies designed to help you keep more of what you earn. this is the planning effect. new jerseys are here! there you go. all-american club™? 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well, alaska airlines has cut 10% of its flights through the end of january. now some experts are saying they think the omicron surge may have peaked in certain areas. the northeast, for example. but that is not yet a consensus view. we just don't know. the only way we will know is with more testing and, of course, testing is also snowed under by the omicron surge. here in los angeles, county official talking about opening new testing sites in libraries and drafting in, quote, disaster service workers. jake? >> nick watt, thanks. appreciate it. let's talk about this with baltimore police commissioner michael harrison. we should note you tested positive a couple of weeks ago. how are you feeling? >> well, first of all, thank you for having me. i'm feeling great. my family travelled to our home city of new orleans over the christmas holidays and on the day we were supposed to return on the 28th, i believe, 27th, i began to feel symptoms and got tested the next day and tested positive. my symptoms, my wife tested positive also but our symptoms were very mild. only for about three or four days and then we began to recover really quickly and then i, of course, worked remotely the next week and stayed home as a precaution. and then went back to work this past monday. feeling great now. so residue, no lasting side effects, but thank you. >> last week your department spokeswoman said more than 300 baltimore police officers and other employees were quarantined because of covid. that's roughly 12% of your force. how has that impacted your department and its ability to keep the citizens of baltimore safe? >> well, the number is different every day. as of today it was 382 members quarantining. 317 actually positive with 65 cases still pending the results. we have to adjust staffing, manpower. we have to adjust it both in uniformed services and in detectives to put them back in uniform to make sure that it doesn't have a negative impact on our ability to respond to 911 calls, violent crime. we have to make sure we can still investigate and get those investigations under way and keep those investigations moving forward. so it has affected us, but it has not come to a 911 crisis as of yet. it is costing us a lot of overtime because we have to make so many moves to make sure that it doesn't negatively affect us. so we're staying ahead of it, but it is becoming critical with nearly 400 people quarantined every single day. >> you say it hasn't affected your ability to respond to 911 calls, but are you having to triage other kinds of calls, for instance, lesser crimes, things that, like vandalism? are you having to not report and stop crime of a lesser nature? >> not necessarily crime but there are some calls that are not calls about crime but they're all calls about quality of life issues. nuisance issues. things that people call the police for that they probably don't have to call the police for. yes, we are prioritizing the nonemergency calls so that we can respond to all of the emergency calls. and so while we've moved a number of people around, we worked on restaffing and reallocating all of our resources to make sure each of the nine districts are adequately staffed and prepared to respond to any kind of emergency call. we've had to prioritize the nonemergency calls so that we can deal with the emergencies. >> according to a recent department data, baltimore saw a net loss of 92 officers last year. why is that? are you worried that trend is going to continue? >> well, last year in '21 was a unique year. we had a large number of people who had medical separations. they could not be a police officer ever again because of spinal injuries, all types of serious injuries, and there were a larger number of separations because of terminations or resignations in lieu of terminations. when you put those two together, that number made the attrition number much larger than in previous years. we don't think that's going number the case this year but '21 was an outlier because of those two unique reasons. >> michael harrison, thank you for your time. glad you're feeling better. democrats hope to vote on a key rule change that will give them what they want now, but might they pay the price later? 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he's quite focused on how ensuring the american people understand what is at stake here. >> reporter: a white house sharpening its message. >> the president will forcefully advocate for protecting the most bedrock american rights. the right to vote, have your voice counts in a fair, free and secure election that's not tainted by partisan manipulation. >> reporter: it launches its most aggressive push yet to unlock president biden's agenda. >> those who stormed this capitol and those who instigated and incited, and those who called on them to do so held a dagger at the throat of america, at american democracy. >> reporter: with critical priorities frozen in the u.s. senate, biden shifting directly to bringing the fight to republicans. all as he pushes to secure two democratic votes. >> everyone is going to have to take a hard look at where they want to be at this moment in history as we're looking at efforts across the country to prevent people from being able to exercise their fundamental rights. >> reporter: biden and kamala harris will travel to georgia tuesday, set to make the case for democratic voting bills that expand voting options and implement sweeping federal changes to voting laws. all as senate democrats prepare to vote on both as soon as this week. but with unified gop opposition -- >> this was the takeover that democrats have sought for multiple years using multiple different justifications. >> reporter: only one real path forward, a change to senate rules, one opposed by democratic senators joe manchin and kyrsten sinema. >> being open to a rules change that would create a nuclear option, it's very, very difficult. it's a heavy lift. >> both also not on board yet with biden's $1.75 trillion build back better plan. >> i'm not going to talk about build back better anymore because i think i've been clear on that. there are no negotiations going to at this time. >> reporter: manchin's explosive discussion to shut down those talks leaving the bill in the same limbo as voting rights. at a moment biden's top allies on capitol hill are ramping up their own pressure campaign. >> joe manchin has all the cover he needs to now step away and do what we need done. and that is provide the 49th vote in our vote that the 50th vote will come along. >> jake, despite the public push this week from the president in private calls from former presidents clinton and obama, private calls from oprah urging joe manchin to change his mind on the filibuster. just a short while ago he reiterated to manu raju that he has not changed his mind. it's still a heavy lift. despite democrats clearly moving in that direction to try and change the senate rules, manchin simply is not there right now. >> phil mattingly, thank you. >> joining us now, alex padilla. previously california's secretary of state. senator padilla, this vote on a rules change coming up, how worried are you that any rule change could backfire when republicans inevitably take control of the senate again and then they use this precedent to pass a nationwide ban on abortion or nationwide concealed carry gun laws with only 51 votes? >> yeah, good to be back with you, jake. and look, i've been hearing that question since even before i joined the senate last year. and here's my take. i think it's worth the risk. if we're able to massage the rules of the senate to advance critical issues like voter protection and defending voting rights, things like an aggressive climate change agenda, things like labor protections, protecting equality and so much more, then i don't worry about losing the majority in the senate. so i do think it's worth the risk, but let's be clear here. i think what senator manchin has made clear, it's not a wholesale change but potentially, a pathway for voting rights legislation only to advance which is so critical. you had your special this last thursday on the anniversary of the insurrection which was based on the big lie. so shoring up the right to vote and integrity of ce around the country need to be undone and that's what we're seeking to achieve through the freedom to vote act. >> your fellow senator, republican mike rounds said this on sunday. take a listen. >> while there were some irregularities, there were none of the irregularities which would have risen to the point they would have changed the vote outcome in a single state. the election was fair as fair as we've seen. we simply did not win the election as republicans for the presidency. criticized rounds and insulted him for making the comment. how concerned are you about this big lie, loyalty test impacting this year's midterm election? >> good for senator rounds for standing up for the truth because what he said is absolutely true. this boogieman voter fraud. let's get the facts straight. voter fraud is exceedingly rare across the country which means our current protections are working. when you have these changes in state law that make it harder for eligible people to vote, it's a solution in search of a problem. so what we have in california, you mentioned my prior experience as secretary of state, multiple options for how to register to vote. all very secure. multiple options for how voters can cast their ballot, including vote by mail. also very secure. every eligible voter in america deserves the same option because it comes down to what we all supposedly learned in high school, jake. our democracy works best when as many eligible people get to participate. the better the turnout, the better the outcome of the election reflects the will of the people. >> senator alex padilla from california, thanks. appreciate your time. it's only the second week of january but the travel industry is already facing a plane load of problems. what do you need to know before you take a trip? stay with us. and senses my movement and effortlessly adjusts to help keep me comfortable. the sleep number 360 smart bed is on sale now. only from sleep number. the living 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travel space in this new omicron era. this is what's happening for airlines. not only have they been hit with back-to-back winter storms over the last week but also huge numbers of employees are calling out sick because they've been either exposed to or infected with coronavirus. these are the latest numbers from flight aware. airlines canceled 5300 flights nationwide between friday and sunday, over the weekend. another 800 cancellations today. it seems these numbers are tapering off a little bit, but airline experts caution, this is a difficult thing to forecast when it comes to crew callouts. southwest airlines cancelled about 1 in every 5 of its flights over the weekend. and in a new statement it says our operation has seen steady improvement on monday as we continue covering from staffing challenges and severe weather that impacted several of our largest bases of operation over the past week. now as these airline cancellations are going up, these cruise line cancellations are going up as airline cancellations are going down a little bit. but a dozen cruise ships have been docked over the last week at major cruise lines. royal caribbean just docked four of its ships out of an abundance of caution. that cruise line requires passengers be fully vaccinated. just last week one of its ships had to turn back to hong kong because of a covid scare on board. remember, the cdc two weeks ago advised americans not to go on cruises, regardless of their vaccination status, jake. >> are most airlines, cruise lines, et cetera, refunding travelers if they have to cancel trips or should everybody be just automatically buying travelers insurance whenever they buy a ticket? >> travel insurance companies say they have seen inqueerininq goes up. cruise lines are offering refunds, although they say it may take as long as 45 days for folks to get their money back just because of the sheer volume of calls they're getting. airlines may default to offering you a credit, a bit of sleight of 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last year the u.s. was battered by 20 weather events. each one causing at least a billion dollars worth of damage. that's not even a record. but as cnn's rene marsh reports, the total price tag of 2021's weather damage was far higher than in previous years in both dollars and in human lives. >> [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. >> reporter: from a rare winter firestorm and historic drought to devastating hurricanes and unusual late-season tornado outbreak an unprecedented snow and ice. the full range of billion-dollar weather disasters seen across the nation in the past 12 months is now quantified in a newly released climate report. 2021 was deadlier than 2020 and one of the most expensive years for a billion-dollar weather disasters. that's according to the national oceanic atmospheric administration. nearly 700 people died in 20 separate billion-dollar disasters. that's more than double 2020's deaths. the staggering economic toll totaled $145 billion. the new data crystallizes the human and financial impact of climate change now. >> it's an alarm bell. and point out why we should have taken action years ago but now, absolutely, we have to do this. >> reporter: the new report only captures the most costly disasters, which is only about 80% of the total economic loss. hurricane ida, a deadly category 4 storm that slammed louisiana and triggered tornadoes and flooding as far north as new york city was the most expensive, costing the u.s. $75 billion. the winter storm that froze the deep south, including it was the second costliest at 24 billion. the wildfires cost the u.s. 26.4 billion. >> we cannot adapt to run away climate change. >> reporter: in ten years these disasters have cost the united states just over a trillion dollars. to put this in perspective, that's double the cost of the currently stalled climate legislation. the climate provisions in the bill aim to slash greenhouse gases by half of 2005 bevels. >> those are all tools to make sure we're truly leveraging our dollars and taxpayer dollars to have more communities be safer. >> reporter: fema is doubling down on helping communities better prepare. issuing grants for more weather resistant infrastructure. climate change is spawning unusual weather phenomenon and weather whiplash that's difficult to predict and prepare for like this rare event in colorado late last month. flames fueled by warmer temperatures, drought conditions and 100 miles an hour winds were smothered less than 24 hours later by several icnches of sno. if we don't cut emissions, we're facing a losing battle. >> we're not just picking up the pieces. these happened 82 days, now we're talking about every 18 day. >> thank you so much. i want to start pi getting your reaction about the exploding costs of these severe weather v events. >> it's staggering. we knew it would be bad. we didn't know it would be twice the number of human lives lost and imagine those shattered over these events. but sadly this is just the beginning of the bills becoming due. >> the last zen years have been the warmest on record. we're never been in a never more precarious climate position, it seems. >> not at all and not in human history, not at all in history. we are the volcano. we have the force that's changing this. what's more alarming is that now land is heating up faster than the oceans for so long. the oceans absorb so much heat. it's now tipping over. what if these are the coldest seven years for the rest of our lives. >> he bants to have e mmissionsf the planet. he'll only get about 43% of the way there. last year, the curve went up instead of down. it went up 6%. we knew that would be a venn gens economy. we didn't anticipate the united states would burn more coal than the year before. that's because there's no policy backstop. the build back better plan has been chipped away at so much. it's $555 billion worth of carrots with not a lot of sticks to force it through. whether or not the white house breaks that off and trying to do a separate climate package and tries to do it all together remains to be seen right now. will chicago schools be closed for yet another day as the city and teachers union struggle the reach deal? that's next with wolf blitzer in "the situation room." 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