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news on the record shattering onslaught of the omicron variant. more children are being hospitalized with covid-19 than at any time during the pandemic. let's go to cnn's tom foreman. the covid cases are skyrocketing, but the fda is scrambling to get 12 to 15-year-olds greater protection. that's a very important development. >> they're trying to pull out all of the stops and they're saying that something has to slow this onslaught and even though hospitalizations as a percentage have not shot up as much as they might have, they're saying that's because people have been vaccinated and if we can get more in the same state and boosted, the better off we'll be. >> reporter: with the pandemic clocking unprecedented numbers of infections, the fda is expected to approve the booster shots for 12 to 15-year-olds. and health officials are advising caution on shore too. >> i would not eat in a restaurant now without a mask. i would absolutely not go into a bar. if you go into the bar now, you are very likely to get covid whether you're vaccinated or not. if you're unvaccinated you go into the bar, you will come out of it infected. >> reporter: the surge is not hitting everyone equally. >> if you're unvaccinated you're ten times more likely to be a case and 20 times more likely to be a fatality. >> what we're hearing from hospitals across the nation, and this is very consistent is that the vast majority of the children being admitted are unvaccinated. >> reporter: so many people are being affected many states are reporting near record highs. maryland hospital officials are calling for a limited emergency declaration. in new york city, the fire department has so many people out sick they're reminding everyone to call 911 in true emergencies and the drum beat for more testing is growing louder. especially with schools reopening next week. >> testing, testing, testing all the time. this is what we have to do and you're seeing this in new york and in d.c. you're seeing this in as many places as we can. >> reporter: in the meantime, two new reports indicate a booster shot of the johnson & johnson vaccine significantly lowers the risk of the omicron variant, and health officials are pleading no matter which vaccine you choose, get your first shot, your second, then get boosted too. >> that's where, you know, so many of us are echoing and go ahead and get vaccinated if you haven't gotten your first our second shot. that's the only thing to protect you right now. >> reporter: make no mistake about it, even though this didn't produce a rush on hospitals like it might have, there's still a lot of people showing up a the emergency care facilities and they're overwhelming the hospitals. think over your new year's eve carefully and be home with people who you are vaccinated or safe. don't make this worse going into the new year. jim? >> great advice. tom forman, thanks. let's bring in dr. peter hotez, from the center for vaccine development. thanks so much. you know, as pediatric hospitalizations in the u.s. reach the highest that they have been throughout this pandemic, just so alarming. we're learning that the fda will allow the booster shots for 12 to 15-year-olds in the coming days that's got to about god send to a lot of parents waiting for this to happen. >> yeah. and the reasons, jim, there's twofold concern regarding the kids. threefold, really. the hospitalizations among children's hospitals are starting to increase, so this business that it's not a severe disease doesn't always hold. so we are seeing the kids get hospitalized. so many of the pediatric staff, icu staff, nurses, respiratory docs are getting knocked out and at are home. and my concern is now schools are going to be opening and right at a time when this thing is peaking at 300,000 new cases a day. it's this wave across the northeast that's going to extend into other parts of the country and then even more kids are likely going to get sick. so we're going to be in for a very rough three or four weeks. i think it's good news that we'll have the boosters for the 12 to 15-year-olds, so that will help a little bit. but the this is going to be a very rough time. not only for the kids, but for the adults as well. >> and the latest surge of coronavirus cases that shatter the all-time pandemic peak in this country. there's a lot of confusion about how to protect ourselves right now. especially with limited access to tests while exposure to the virus seems all but inevitable at this point. at least that's the concern that people have, but how do you think we should be navigating this? >> well, i think we have to -- you know, there's a lot of happy talk about the lower severity from the omicron variant and it's true, but not that much lower. some of the hospitalizations may be from delta, but some omicron and some breakthroughs. i think as we head into the new year's weekend, be conservative and be thoughtful. try to keep your gatherings small and surround yourselves with those vaccinated. you don't to come out hospitalized or very sick. this is still a bad wave and has different features from the previous wave, but that unique one-two punch of hospitalizations and the hospital staff, essential workers getting knocked out. you don't know if you call 911 if the ambulance will come as quick. there's a lot of red flag here's. >> this is an important thing to talk about. the surge comes as significant portion of the country remains unvaccinated. some 64 million people who are eligible to get a coronavirus vaccine have not done so. many of them are just being stubborn about this. could this current surge, do you think, could it have been avoided if disinformation was not so rampant in this country right now? >> that's right. if we had reached levels of 80, 85% vaccination, potentially this could have -- and boosted, this could have staved it off. and unfortunately, this disinformation is more than disinformation. it's a killer. jim, we have lost since june 1 of this year 200,000 unvaccinated americans and they have needlessly lost their lives from covid, despite the widespread availability of vaccinations. anti-science is one of the leading killers of young and middle aged adults in the united states. and i think we have to take more aggressive steps to counter it. all of the deaths are among the unvaccinated and those who made a deliberate decision to refuse vaccines or openly defied because of what they're hearing from the anti-science aggression. >> just to follow-up on that. so as a society, we are just going to be scrambling from one pandemic crisis to the next until we get that portion of the population vaccinated? is that what we're looking at right now, do you think? >> that and vaccinating the world, absolutely. what i have asked the biden administration to do is i said, look, this is a well oiled, well funded anti-vaccine ecosystem. these are not mom and pop groups. they have funding, they have organization. they have leaders in the u.s. congress and they have the conservative think tanks. they have the far right wing news outlets and this is going to require homeland security and the commerce department to figure it out because the health sector doesn't know what to do at this point. >> yeah. it's such a difficult problem. dr. peter hotez, thanks for what you do. we appreciate it as always. >> thank you. and breaking news next, we're learning details of the high stakes call that just wrapped up between president biden and russia's vladimir putin. with mucinex all-in-one you've got powerful relief from your worst cold and flu symptoms. so when you need to show your cold who's boss, grab mucinex all-in-one... and get back to your rhythm. ♪ the relief you need. the cash you want. 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did he tip his hand at all? i suppose that's difficult to answer? >> reporter: yeah. that senior administration official was actually asked about whether or not they had a better sense of putin's intentions as it relates to whether or not he's going to invade ukraine and the official said they do not. and rather than focus on vladimir putin's words during this conversation, the official said that the white house is much more focused on actions by the russian side and that's why we have seen the u.s. step up its monitoring of russian military movements. they have now flown two u.s. spy planes, reconnaissance missions over eastern ukraine. a plane that has a powerful radar that can detect military movements on the other side of the ukrainian border. that's where the u.s. focus is on on monitoring those movements at this time. >> thank you, jeremy. let's get more on the breaking news with cnn international diplomatic editor nic robertson in moscow and natasha bertrand and cnn's national security commentator. nic, we know this call came about at the request of vladimir putin. tell us what you're learning about this conversation. it lasted about 50 minutes. what's the russian side saying about this? we know they like to get their take out on the conversations before the americans do. >> yeah. they were pretty quick to give us their read on it and an extensive read. so the tone seems to be the same. they're saying that they're happy with the way that the call went, they're glad about it. they say they believe that president putin was able to get a sense from president biden that president biden is willing to understand what they call the essence of russia's security demands. that is, you know, nato's presence or taking on of -- taking on of ukraine into nato. so, you know, the -- from the russian perspective, they feel that that message is sort of not being utterly rejected, that some semblance of it is being absorbed or understood. but the russian side is saying, look, president biden made it very clear that he wants for see a de-escalation of russian forces and if there isn't, there will be serious economic, military and financial sanctions. this is what the kremlin said, and putin they say responded that if that were the case, if that was to happen, then this would provide a serious rupture in relations between the two countries and this would be a mistake. it would be a generational mistake. >> chairman rodgers, it would be a generational mistake. what do you think the russian leader's motivation is here? are you concerned that this was some kind of a ploy on putin's part? it almost always is. >> you know, i think he was trying to determine the resolve of the united states in this, candidly. i think that's why he asked for the call. remember, this is something that he's talked about for the better part of a decade about making sure that ukraine did not go into nato, number one, but two, didn't lean western when it came to its economic ties. and he's getting a lot of that just by putting troops along the border, making the economy there just a little bit less stable, less interesting for western investment. all of those things play into putin's hands, and i think today, i mean, remember the united states -- which i thought was a mistake, took unilateral action if they came across the border and that went into detecting that resolve. remember, he's still in georgia. that happened in 2008. he put troops into georgia and they're still there. he still owns crimea, by all accounts. he had a really aggressive cyberattack in 2016 in ukraine so he's doing information operation campaigns there so he's still moving out on his plan. i think today was about was there resolve in the deterrence part in the diplomatic resolution. >> right. natasha, you have done a lot of reporting on this. what message did the white house want to get across and did they get that message across and based on what you're learning, do you think the white house was successful? >> well, it depends on who you ask, i guess, but i think that the white house really with the phone call wanted to convey the tone of the talks that are going to happen on january 10th. they kind of wanted to lay out a road map of what the u.s. expects to see over the next week or so, especially ahead of the talks and whether or not russia is going to drawdown at all or whether they'll take steps to de-escalate and they wanted to convey to the russians that there would be consequences if they did not de-escalate. was it successful? well, the russian side as nic said is saying that the u.s. seemed very open to their concerns and hearing out their concerns. and seemed much more kind of conciliatory than the u.s. frame of it, which is that we made it very clear that we are not willing to compromise when it comes to nato, when it comes to each country's ability to make that decision of whether they want to take steps required to join nato. so it seems like there's a bit of spin coming out from the russian side which is unsurprising. the white house is sticking firm in its position here that if russia does take this step, they are going to take action. and that's in consultation with allies, it won't be unilateral, but they did say that the u.s. military forces in ukraine are off the table. whether that gives putin some kind of leverage remains to be seen. he has kind of backed himself into a corner, putin has, because he's making very specific demands and on a short time line. if he doesn't get what he wants, it remains to be seen if he uses that as a pretext as an attack. >> and putin told biden that new sanctions against russia would be a quote, colossal mistake? obviously, if he carries out an incursion into ukraine, there would be sanctions so putin is apparently warning biden they would be a quote colossal mistake, the sanctions. what's your reaction to that? >> listen, putin is making the calculus right now. i think he has a good sense of what the reaction will be, including this by the way, the announcement about the spy mission and by the way, when the government leaks there's a spy mission, they wanted the west to know that the united states were making these kind of flights even though the russians probably already knew that. so he's making this calculation. he's going down this checklist. what sanctions could they do that would hurt them versus moving troops to the river which would split ukraine in half and that has all of the stuff on the half that he would have. that putin wants. he's making all of those calculations. could they survive it? is there another place to sell their goods? remember, not like they're going to shut down the manufacturing sector in russia. when's the last time you bought anything that said made in russia. so they're looking at, you know, could they offset that economic damage with natural resources, natural gas, oil and other things with china and other things. so he's going through the checklist. i think today he was trying to put his finger on the pulse to see if it was enough for him not to go into the ukraine. all of the places he is, very low consequence right now. >> which means the upcoming talks in january will be so important. thank you. great to hear from you all. more breaking news coming up just ahead on the new pandemic record for covid hospitalizations among children and whether it's going to get worse. one role of a lifetime...one sore throat. but she had enough. she took new mucinex instasoothe sore throat lozenges. show your sore throat who's boss. new mucinex instasoothe. works in seconds, lasts for hours. let's get ready for jalapeñoooo popperrrs! turns out, michael buffer speaks like that all the time. and it turns out the general is a quality insurance company that's been saving people money for nearly 60 years. for a great low rate, and nearly 60 years of quality coverage, go with the general. moving is a handful. no kidding! fortunately, xfinity makes moving easy. easy? 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>> well, thank you so much for asking that because i think it's really important and it's something that we sometimes forget when we're talking about that pandemic, that we have a lot of young children who aren't yet eligible for the vaccine. so the things that we can do -- it's back to the basics, the things we have been talking about all along. if you're eligible to get vaccinated please do. there is no better time than now if you haven't already. if you're eligible for a booster as you're just talking, get your booster shot and i think just some caution. when you're -- you know, when you're out and about, wear a mask, avoid crowded indoor gatherings and show that extra bit of caution to help keep this variant from spreading in the way that it really is right now and help keep our littlest ones safe. >> and the fda is expected to include those ages 12 to 15 in the coming days. that's huge news for a lot of parents out there. are you hopeful that that will make a big difference and i guess, you know, what about what elizabeth cohen was saying moments ago, we have so many teenagers who have not been vaccinated yet. how do we get that message across? >> yeah. i think these are both really important issues. i think we are looking forward to -- and hopeful there will be a booster short authorized for our adolescents in the coming week. we'll have to of course see where the data takes us and we'll have to see what the fda and the cdc decide. but absolutely we'll recommend that and that will be really helpful in helping keeping the kids safe and healthy, but also i know parents still have lot of questions and i think some parents were sort of holding off wanting to see how things went. there was a report out from the cdc talking about the children who have had the vaccines so if you're on the fence i would say, you know, talk to your pediatrician. look to reputable sources for information because i think the time is now and we want to make sure your kids stay healthy and safe. >> right. before the variant comes next and the one after that and so on if we can't get this under control. we don't know that that's going to be like. thanks so much for your expertise and we appreciate it. >> all right. thank you so much for talking with us on this important issue. just ahead, where does the insurrection investigation stand right now? 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>> well, first, the court doesn't need to take this case up at all. the trial court and the appellate court basically said that the former president had no case. the claim of executive privilege was not found to be valid since the current president, president biden, has waived it as to these records. as the appellate court noted in order to get injunctive relief, you need to show a likelihood you'll prevail at trial and the former president didn't try to do that. he just -- he just said he wanted to win but made no showing as to irrepable harm. it's worth noting, as of today, a whole series of former ronald reagan, george w. bush white house lawyers and justice department officials filed what's called an amicus brief saying that congress should prevail in this and that basically the president's suit should not be prevailing. so we're hopeful that the court will simply decline to take this case. it's completely discretionary on their part. you can imagine the circumstance where a former president would have a valid claim, but that's not the case in this case. so they should wait for a more suitable presentation of facts and it's clear, obviously, that the former president's main effort is to delay. he doesn't have a case. if he can delay it, he thinks he will win, so i'm hopeful the court will see right through that. >> i want to look at something that trump tweeted the day before the insurrection. i hope the democrats and the weak and ineffective rino section of the party are looking at those pouring into washington, d.c. they won't stand for a landslide election to be stolen. he was referring to the day before the insurrection and there's a lot we don't know what he was up to before and during the january 6th insurrection. are you confident you are going to get those answers and do you have any more of those answers now? >> well, that's our goal and our intent is to get all of the information out, you know? we are seeking the information as you know from close associates of the former president. but we're also getting information from lesser known individuals who were in his government, that are helping us to put the pieces together. clearly, getting the information that is currently in the archives would be very important for the committee to help get the entire facts in order. so we're committed to getting the full picture, revealing it to the american people and also coming up with recommendations for legislative changes that would make our country less vulnerable to this kind of misconduct. >> and capitol police sergeant gunnel tweeted a reminder of why it matters today. he quotes that former vice president mike pence who referred to january 6th as one day in january. he writes this happened to me, giving him and others time to escape to safety, so he wouldn't get hanged, executed. to some my efforts and injuries have an exaggeration. they did this to me and there are photos in the tweet, congresswoman, i don't know if you can see it, some of the injuries he sustained. other police officers from that day obviously sustained very serious injuries. how important is it that americans don't forget what happened that day and is that part of what is is driving you and this committee? >> well, i think it's very important that we not forget. officers such as that one and others sustained serious injuries, so that members of congress and the senators and the vice president would not suffer physical harm. i owe him and the rest of the capitol police a debt of gratitude for my safety. but even more important than my safety is the continuation of our democracy. that was what was under attack and not just the members of the congress or the vice president who they say they wanted to hang. but the peaceful transition of power, the very essence of our democracy was what was hanging by a thread that day. we better not forget it if we want to maintain our democratic republic. >> all right. congresswoman, thanks, we appreciate it and happy new year. thanks for your time. >> thank you. you too. breaking news next, a wildfire emergency unfolding right now in colorado. the flames being fanned by hurricane-force winds. here, the phone everyone wants, on america's most reliable network. better? 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you would think we wouldn't see something like this. >> it's very concerning. we have very dry conditions here and today as you mentioned, we had hurricane-force winds. so any fire that starts can spread incredibly quickly. what's unusual about this fire, it's spread very quickly into the populated areas. we know we have probably hundreds of homes and businesses that have been consumed by fire. we obviously cannot do a damage assessment with the situation being as volatile as it is. and we are encouraging anybody in we are encouraging people to evacuate. >> what do you think led to this? just dealing with very dry conditions recently? >> yes, actually, in our area the first notable snow is to fall tomorrow. we are very hopeful that occurs. we've gotten more snow in the mountain area but we are in the foothills and it is incredibly dry and the hefty winds are making it very easy for fire conditions to get very bad quickly. >> how are the resources there for first responders? do you have all the help you need right now? >> we have terrific resources. we have mutual aid agreements. we have a lot of nearby jurisdictions helping us. it was a little bit concerning earlier today when we had two different fires going, two different parts of our county. but we were able to mobilize resources from our north fire to the marshall fire once that got a little bit under control. we have plenty of firefighting resources. this many evacuations, we've also had to draw a lot on our sheriff's resources to help people get safely out of town of the. >> sarah huntley, thanks very much for jumping on the phone with us with the bolder county emergency operations center the governor there declaring an emergency as this truly historic windstorm is fanning major fires in colorado. we'll stay on top of it and bring you the latest as it comes in. breaking news next. wildfires as we were just saying a few moments ago rapidly spreading in colorado fueled by what officials are calling a very, a truly historic windstorm. we'll have more on that in a moment. a programming note. this sunday night join james taylor and carole king for an unforgettable night of music. the cnn film "just call out my name" premieres at 9:00 eastern. >> the challenge was how to do a terrific show in a really large arena. >> we wish everybody could be close in. one way to do that is to perform in the round. >> we came up with the idea we would basically have a club in an arena, also rotating slowly, stage rotates. we've designed the show to be as close and intimate as possible and to play to everybody in the room. ♪ ♪ whenever i see your smiling face i have to smile myself because i love you ♪ it shortens colds! zicam. zinc that cold! breaking news the growing wild fire emergency in colorado is prompting evacuations in at least two towns with hurricane force winds making the situation dramatically worse. stay with cnn for more on the crisis as it unfold. we'll stay on top of it as the night goes on. now the latest on the case against ghislain maxwell found guilty of sex trafficking of a minor for jeffrey epstein. let's get more with our legal analysts. jennifer, let me start with you. do you think maxwell could now flip and give authorities information on others who are involved? there have been some big names as you know who have come up, you know, that have come up throughout this saga. what do you think? would she be much of a help to prosecutors at this point? >> well, she could try to flip, jim. i don't anticipate that will happen, though, for a few reasons. one is that she has to give up a lot. everything basically you have to go in and tell them everything you've known including everything that you've done that is illegal. i'm not sure prosecutors would want to cooperate her at this point. she had more leverage before she was convicted and facing perhaps the rest of her life in prison. the other issue is what can she cooperate on? even if she is willing to give up names of people involved with these girls she would have to do more than that to cooperate her. she would have to give up chargeable pieces it is just tough here where we don't know if these men were involved at all and if they were involved in criminal activity whether they were involved in federal criminal activity of the sort that maxwell and jeffrey epstein were charged with as opposed to state charges like statutory rape or sexual abuse. >> what do you think, paul, does maxwell likely have information she could offer or as jennifer was saying would it have to be more than that? they would need evidence to move on, that kind of thing. >> yeah. they would need evidence. they have a statute of limitations problem also. she may have great evidence on something that happened way back in florida 25 years ago, but it may not be within the statute of limitations. so regardless of how big a figure she might be able to incriminate it might not be useable. the second thing is, remember, she had a horrible time in prison pretrial. they were in court five or six times trying to get her bail lowered and never succeeded at it. i think she would have given up any information that she had at that point to get out of jail. that was her get out of jail card. she never played it then. to me it doesn't look like she has a get out of jail card. >> jennifer, we just have a little time left. i wonder what you make of the fact that right now the only person being punished in this sex trafficking ring is a woman. not to downplay maxwell's guilty but she was not alone in this. >> certainly not. jeffrey epstein obviously was charged first but then died by suicide. he is the one who got away in that sense in terms of criminal liability. she was the number two. you really can't do this without a woman to be honest because she had to groom and find and entice them. she was a big fish here. >> fascinating. thanks so much. i'm jim acosta. thanks very much for watching. erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next the new record high for covid and we may be a month from the peak as staffing shortages are already pushing more cities across the country to the brink. plus, breaking news. we're learning new details about president biden's phone call with vladimir putin today and the warning that biden gave the russian president and will the supreme court take up trump's case against the january 6th committee? new filings tonight from the committee and the biden administrati

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