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"inside politics," the biggest stories sourced by the best reporters, now. welcome to "inside politics sunday." i'm manu raju, in for abby phillip. tornadoes destroyed buildings, claiming lives across six states. one twister could be responsible for damage around a 250-mile stej from arkansas to kentucky. officials fear 80 people may have lost their lives. >> windows breaking, dogs flying through the air. i didn't know what to do. it's devastating to see stuff i grew up with, it's just gone. >> helped a little lady out from rubble. this is my first thoughts, with everybody else. >> it doesn't happen in your town until it happens in your town. >> i'm looking for my wife. >> president biden has spoken with the governors of the states affected by the tornadoes and directed federal resources to the locations where there's the greatest need. an emergency declaration has been approved for the commonwealth of kentucky and president biden and the kentucky governor pledged to work together to help those in need. >> the federal government is not going to walk away. this is one of those times when we are not democrats or republicans. sounds like hyperbole but it's real. we'll all americans. we stand together as united states of america. >> i just want everybody to know that you are not alone. today kentucky is absolutely united. we're united with our people. we're united to find and rescue as many as possible. >> and mayfield, kentucky, that may be the hardest-hit area. it's estimated more than 100 people working in a candle factory when the tornado hit. kentucky's governor says just 40 people have been rescued. cnn's nadia romero is joining us. tell us what you are seeing. >> that's a great way to describe it, like someone blew up his town and a bomb went off. it happened friday night so we had to wait until saturday morning and sunday morning when the sun would come out to see the devastation left behind. we're in a downtown area not far from us is the candle factory. you can see the sun just starting to peak out over what used to be a factory that is now flattened. we know that is the area that had the most impact from the storm because more than 100 people were working overtime late at night friday when that tornado ripped through. back here where i am in downtown mayfield, this could be any block in this town. i want to give you an idea what it used to look like. behind me, that used to be the post office on the other side of that pile of debris. next to that on the corner was an auto body shop. you can still see pickup trucks there. it used to be a vibrant neighborhood on eighth and broadway. on in corner was another strip of businesses, including where a cpa used to have their office and right next to me, this was an auto mall. this was a vibrant part of mayfield, building that had been here for hundreds of years. so much history lost and, of course, the lives that were lost in this storm. there's still the estimates we could have 70 people, up to 100 or so, who died just in this town alone. that's why the governor is calling this ground zero and president biden is sending in so many people to try to help to find those survivors and, how do you even begin to clean this up, manu? >> absolutely stunning. tell us what you're hearing about the rescue operation that is under way right now, whether the officials have hoped they can help some of the people, if there are survivors, who can get them to safety? >> well, over at that candle factory, manu, they had not pulled out a survival -- survivor since about 3:00 a.m. on saturday morning. so we're going on quite a few hours now until another whole day since they last pulled out someone alive. and when i was over there all day yesterday, kind of when you first showed up to the scene as a journalist, you take a look at the first responders, how are they reacting to the situation? if they look like they have it all under control, that they seem calm and collected, then you know maybe it's going to be all right. it's not so bad. but when we arrived yesterday and throughout the day as the hours went on without pulling out somebody as a survivor, we saw those firefighters who were just -- they were distraught, they were emotional. you don't always see that as first responders because they've seen everything but nothing like this. nothing like the tornado that ripped through mayfield and several other states. and then the whole neighborhood, the towns -- the town of mayfield and neighborhoods inside all look like this. i mean, this could be any corner on any block in mayfield. we just happen to be here at the moment. so we have the national guard in town and they're knocking on doors and they're listening, trying to see if they can hear someone crying out for help because if they were able to make it to their basement or their cellar, how would they get out with all of this debris, the metal, wood, brick, trees, signs, power lines on top? how can they get out? how can you hear their voices? they're using every bit of technology they have and can to find survivors. that's what they're doing today, two days after the storms rolled through friday night. one of the deadliest things though about this storm, manu, the storm itself but now the aftermath, these are power lines that are down. everywhere you go in this town, you see these power lines that are down. we have no electricity, no hot water, which means no heat, no heat in the middle of december. if you did survive your storm and you're stuck inside your house, there's a concern people can get frostbite, that they could have hypothermia. you also have the concern of gas. that was a big problem at the candle factory, the gas lines and people could die from that too, carbon monoxide poisoning. so many dangers after the storm has rolled through. >> so many, just absolutely, absolutely tragic. thank you for your live reporting on the ground. we go further north to edwardsville, illinois, amazon warehouse was destroyed by the storms and at least two people killed when the building collapsed. cnn's boris jones is there. what is the update where you are? >> that death toll ticking up, six people believed to have died in the warehouse behind me. what is complicating matters, officials don't know how many workers were in the warehouse at the time that the ef-3 tornado bore through. it's very unusual, walls 30 feet high, 11-inch concrete and a section of it like a scalpel has just been torn out by this tornado. these walls following inward, the roof collapsing. unknown how many workers were in the building at the time. however officials tell us roughly some 40 workers were able to get out. they don't have an estimate of who's still unaccounted for, however the search-and-rescue effort has transformed into a search-and-recovery effort. they do not believe there's anyone still alive underneath that pile of rubble. despite that, the governor j.b. pritzker vowing amazon will keep its promises and help this community rebuild after this and will help the workers that were here, obviously, in a very busy holiday season, trying to get packages out, trying to get home to their families in the middle of utter devastation. >> boris sanchez with that sad, tragic report. we will monitor the recovery efforts. thank you for that report. joining us for the reporting and their insight, jessica bade, cnn's jeff zeleny and marrow toller from axios. every president has to deal with crises from time to time. everyone deals with it differently. how do we expect president biden to react to this? >> president biden jumped in very quickly and jumped right in yesterday and spoke to the governors, more importantly the kentucky governor beshear three times. the department and deputy of homeland security are traveling there this afternoon. we will see how they handle it. but i thought it was striking the president said this is not a time for democrats or republicans. it's time he has to underscore because it is happening in red america mostly but it is a test of this country for sure. >> it is a tragedy in and of itself. you cannot help contrast it with the national tragedy we've been going over the last two years with covid. when there's a national tragedy, it's much easier to bridge the partisan divide. everybody needs to pitch in to help. you need money, resources, emergency workers, you need doctors. for politicians to band together. i just think that stangds in stark contrast to the long-term health crisis we're all going through but i think in this case, you're going to see biden and officials from both sides of the aisle in congress at the state level throw in together and try to do everything they can for these people have been devastated. >> so much more to discuss and also about biden has to deal with this and issues and agenda in congress and that's what we're going to discuss next. voters say their top economic concern is inflation. but could that doom president biden's agenda? in a recent clinical study, patients using salonpas patch reported reductions in pain severity, using less or a lot less oral pain medicines. and improved quality of life. ask your doctor about salonpas. it's good medicine. ♪ the only thing a disaster can't destroy is hope. ♪ donate now at redcross.org for the first time in decades, rising prices are a top economic concern for american families. it's easy to see why, inflation. it rose in the fastest rate in more than four decades according to a new report out friday. cash, food, furniture, clothes, necessities of life getting more expensive. white house revenue focused on this, gas prices have begun inching down and the supply chain crunch is easy, the administration says. unemployment is falling, stocks rising and analysts at jpmorgan are expecting a full economic recovery next year. now, josh, i want to get your sense on the white house's argument here. the inflation report was backward looking. they say everything is getting better. can they make that case? in a poll out today, it said 59% of americans disapprove of biden's handling on inflation itself. so how are they able to message they can do this effectively given the concerns out there? >> there's an economic argument and political argument. economically there's an argument to be made that we're going through inflation in large part because there is a robust recovery in the economy happening and supply chain imbalances people are seeing. but something i saw in "the wall street journal" poll i thought was interesting, republicans had 26 percentage point advantages, do you think republicans or democrats can better handle inflation? democrats had a five-point advantage on which party of congress do you think will be better looking out for the middle class over the next term? so i think that helps explain why democrats are trying to link it to solving the agenda crisis and build back better can help inflation. >> but can build back better get done with the inflation report? >> that's the big question, the reality is no. this has not moved joe manchin at all but probably in the opposite direction here. finally, they are acknowledging inflation, which for months they weren't. they were saying that's transitory and that's out the window. but the president i was struck on friday when he said we're at the peak of the crisis. if that's true heading into 2022, reason for optimism for the white house. if it's not true we're going to see this somewhat played again and again. >> it is still a psychological economic moment here. people are spending more than ever before. wages largely are up. i do think we have to say gas prices and natural gas, for example, going way down. there are bright signs but they simply can't get over the inflationary hump. i was out with the president last week in kansas city and he's talking up the economy but at the same time he has to acknowledge the hurt people are feeling. it's a tricky balancing act. >> really is. you mentioned joe manchin. he's key to all of this, this massive bill, roughly $200 million sitting in the senate. they're still trying to draft the bill, they're not done drafting legislation. they don't have joe manchin on board. i asked him last week about the white housese argument about -- that this bill would control inflation and this is even before last week's report came out on those inflation numbers. here's what manchin said. >> i've heard that. i don't know how you control an inflation when there's the first year spending will be quite large and that's an awful lot more federal dollars going into a time when we have uncertainty and inflation now. >> i haven't figured out how spending a lot more on the front end is curbing that money on the back end. >> biden said he will talk to joe manchin this week. the democratic leaders want to get this bill done before christmas, which seems highly unlikely at this point. do you think that anything joe biden can do can get joe manchin to vote yes? >> it's going to be a real test of the president's way of manchin and his report he felt with him over the past year. clearly manchin was sending positive signals when they reached the framework but he said all along he wants to look at inflation. there was a cbo congressional budget office score he was waiting for on friday to see what he said was the true cost of the bill, if a lot of these provisions didn't sunset after a couple years. currently democrats only want to have these programs for a couple of years, which keeps the costs down. but joe manchin said these would be extended. if they're extended, how much will they cost? cost went from $2 trillion to $5 trillion. what does this do for joe manchin's vote? i can't imagine it helps things. they have the kentucky disaster now, covid right now. they've got one week until they're supposed to leave for christmas. they don't have a deal on paid family leave. they still don't have a deal on state and local tax deduction and then they have all of the issues with inflation and cbo score. they have a lot of work to do. >> look how the public views this as well. this is a monmouth poll from last week. to americans approve, overwhelmingly they do, 61% do. 35% no. of those who support the plan, the top priority say 44% say it's important but not the top priority. and that's really sort of a dilemma for democrats. they're trying to message this is something you need right now but not all americans, even supporters of this, necessarily agree. >> they're trying to message this as a way out of the economic strains of the pandemic crisis. but the reason americans are saying it shouldn't be the top priority is because they're like, hey, we have an economic crisis and health pandemic. this chicken/egg part of their messaging is difficult. i think biden had a couple challenges too. one, when it comes to inflation in the supply chain, what he's trying to tell people is this really is not long term -- i mean maybe there's some long term, but the panic you feel right now is not long term. that's what i said about the pandemic. here we are quite a bit of months later after everyone got their vaccinations. so i think psychologically the public is having trouble when any politician from any party says trust me, if you do this, this will happen. >> yes. >> on top of that, when it comes to the build back better plan, i don't think any of us is hearing it's a matter of is it dead or alive. it's a matter of when can it pass and how much of it can pass? that is really impacted by the collective pressure of all of these. >> and christmas seems virtually impossible, as you know better than anyone. >> exactly. keep talking about christmas, so much needs to be done. drafting the bill, getting joe manchin on board. and the political impact, if the bill does pass, implement it before the midterms, all key concerns for democrats. and up next for us, the latest on the january 6th committee investigation. hey gogoogle. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ you pour your heart into everything you do, which is a lot. so take care of that heart with lipton. because sippin' on unsweetened lipton can help support a healthy heart. lipton. stop chuggin'. start sippin'. when it comes to autism, finding the right words can be tough. finding understanding doesn't have to be. together, we can create a kinder, more inclusive world for the millions of people on the autism spectrum. go to autismspeaks.org ♪ (calls dog) buttercup... 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they are zeroing in with aides on friday to discuss the rally on january 4th. >> what role did they play in this? what understanding did they have about who would be participating and presence of white nationalist groups and pen chan the for violence? was this the last-stretch strat strategy that the convention failed? >> and a few aides will not testify, including mark meadows. and now he's suing the committee tomorrow, in an attempt to hold them in contempt of congress. listen to mark meadows explain why he's defying the january 6th committee. >> we came to the conclusion they're still going to try to question those personal private conversations that i had with the president of the united states and other senior officials in the west wing, and quite frankly, their scope is way too -- >> the court will have to decide that. >> -- so we will challenge it. >> he might get indicted, the justice department that ultimately will decide to indict him. but even if that goes through the process, he may never actually testify. how big of a blow do you think this is to the committee? he turned over these documents. we don't know what are in the documents he turned over to the committee, but him not giving a first account of what happened? >> he was a central witness. he was with the president as the january 6th siege on the capitol was ongoing. he was talking to him and he would be explosive testimony to the committee. the issue is -- and i think a lot of us who watched these investigations on the hill for a while, we never thought he would cooperate fully. this was about sort of showing the court, just doing enough to say, look, i tried to comply without being unreasonable, therefore, i'm not going to work with them. in terms of actually getting his testimony, steve bannon, who was just held in contempt by congress for not cooperating with subpoena, his trial is set for summer. january 6th committee is operating on a timeline. the reality is bs republicans will probably flip the house and once that happens forget about the trump investigation and january 6th. if they hold him in contempt, it will take a long time, possibly early next fall until his trial is under way. that doesn't help the committee when they're trying to wrap things up before elections. >> december 31, 2022 may be the last day the investigation happens. we will see if it is wrapped up before then. we will see the things happening in the effort to overturn the election by trump, his legal team and people close to the former president. we learned about two legal memos authored last week by one of the president's former advisers, jenna ellis, who said the vice president had the authority to refuse to count presidential electors at the white house that were sent around at the time. how significant do you think that is to the investigation? >> i think so much of what is beginning to come out now are things we already knew or at least could peek behind the curtain and see back in january, right? we were all covering -- not even january, from november until january, you could see so many of these efforts playing out in public or pretty much in public. memos, effort, coordinate, public appearances, television appearances, meetings, so i think, look, what the committee is doing is trying to put together a specific of a text and paper trail and kind of timeline as possible. but we already know that president trump, former president trump, was getting advice from lawyers and advisers who were telling him that there are avenues to challenge this, that they could try things legislatively, they could try things through secretary of states' offices, they could use legal mechanisms or try to use the laws that already existed to try to challenge this. so i think we may continue to see more of this. >> even though we're learning all of this, trump is still the dominant figure in republican primary politics. we've seen this play out in the georgia governor's race, david perdue, the former senator who lost in january, challenging brian kemp. and he's making the claim kemp is the reason why he lost his senate race because kemp certified the election and the way he handled that, which, of course, there was no evidence there was widespread fraud that could have changed biden's victory or republican losses there. but donald trump was asked about his endorsement, and this is what he said -- >> i spent a lot of time talking to people about endorsement. they all want the endorsement of trump. you remember for years you heard the expression, an endorsement isn't worth the paper it's written on. and then this whole thing came along and it's a very -- it's a very important treasure. >> a very important treasure. david perdue obviously sees it that way. people see perhaps david perdue lost the race because the election was rigged and stolen in the january runoff and here's perdue saying the opposite. >> you do want the endorsement throughout the election. with all of the things piling up, but what david perdue said about the election fraud and all of the claims and basically blamed the loss on stacey abrams and brian kemp, handing over the power to stacey abrams, none of that was true. the reality is, he has a tough competitive race in georgia. we will see if brian kemp stays and runs but former president trump remains at the center of the vortex of republican primaries. so everyone wants his endorsement. he's absolutely right what he said hough hewett today. it's a treasure everybody covets. >> he's endorsed more than 80 races, dozens more expected to come before the real crux of the gop primary season. he's playing strategically in races all over the country. >> we will see how it plays out, the impact it has on the general election as well and democrats, of course, want to run against zrt. we will see how that works. up next -- the u.s. hosts a summit to host the democracy even if it's in danger at home. in a recent clinical study, patients using salonpas patch reported reductions in pain severity, using less or a lot less oral pain medicines. and improved quality of life. ask your doctor about salonpas. it's good medicine. ♪ the only thing a disaster can't destroy is hope. ♪ donate now at redcross.org this a week of foreign policy milestones for the biden administration, including the first-ever global democracy summit. >> american democracy is an ongoing struggle to live up to our highest ideals and heal our division. democracy doesn't happen by accident. we have to renew it with each generation and this is an urgent matter on all of our parts. >> senator josh hawley sees it different. >> this is a guy who doesn't really like america and telling the rest of the world, i'm so sorry for america and the way it is. we should be different. meanwhile, he's letting china walk all over him. he's letting an actual authoritarian dictator call the shots. i thought it was embarrassing and sad. >> what does the white house think it actually got from the summit? critics will say look what happened to afghanistan, he pulled out of afghanistan. there's an ouautocratic regime there, but what does the white house actually gain from this? >> i think they gained or what they were trying to gain is once again reasserting the u.s.' role on the world stage, which has been greatly diminished over the last several years. but there are many, many questions as we were talking about the insurrection about the state of the democracy here. so i think it is just to remind the world the u.s. is still here, is still in a position of power. but that's also kind of a sad commentary that the it has to be done. >> you mentioned the back fighting, people around democracy outside of the country have been saying. this is what the stockholm based international for democracy and electoral assistance said in 2021, the united states is the balancing equivalent of democracy fell victim to the athorian tendencies itself and was knocked down a significant number of steps on the democratic scale. is that fair, josh? >> i think when american presidents talk about our democracy, it's almost always more aspirational than based on our reality. and that is an extension of that. when the president took on the world stage and there were questions about how we went into war in iraq or questions about our drone policies. i think as we talked about in the last block, there was a little bit of a difference now with president trump and republicans re-upping concerns about our elections. but to me, those sit with the trend of american presidents kind of having to talk up american conceptualism and convince other people. >> the timing is now is just ironic. you have specifically china in pushing back on the summit saying, look at what happened in the united states january 6th, people storming the capitol. you had china and russia doing a joint op-ed and hungary saying, you have half of americans who don't believe the results of the 2020 election. what kind of democracy do you have? and why are you able to say that yours is better than other peoples? it really opens us up to serious criticism now. you just have to remark on the irony of josh hawley, the clip you just played criticizing biden for the summit when he was the one that sort of led the charge to object to the electoral college in congress. >> democracy not under assault because of joe biden. it's under assault despite joe biden's messaging and efforts. but every democracy, every western democracy, every democracy in the world right now is under assault and there are major forces pushing that. income inequality, disinformation, ways to abuse social media and the fact that people have frustrations and don't know who to blame. it is harder to pivot fast in democracies than it is with autocracies. there are a lot of these factors. we know all of them. biden's view, this administration's view is you have to talk about them, hold your allies close and try to message the benefits of democracy. the challenge is reaching those internal domestic audiences, including the one in the u.s., that already don't think of it that way and it's very hard. >> this all comes as other foreign policy concerns emerge, what's happening in russia, ukraine, the tensions that are happening there. last week the phone call between biden and vladimir putin, biden warned there would be very strict sanctions against russia if -- even stricter than 2014 when russia annexed crimea. he said they're going to be tougher this time. vladimir putin just told russian state media tv he would, quote, really like to meet for talks with joe biden. is that going to happen, jeff? do you think the white house may preemptively sanction russia rather than wait for anything to happen? >> it's very unlikely there would be another face-to-face meeting unless there is some action from russia to sort of step back from the brink of ukraine. absolutely, i cannot imagine another summit if there's not some action for vladimir putin. never mind the cyberattacks that were actually the discussion in switzerland, geneva this is a whole other issue. the ball is in putin's court. if he keeps moving on ukraine, no, there's not going to be a face-to-face meeting but there will be tough economic sanctions. >> and the pressure will be on the president to move quickly on the sanctions. what will he do? we'll see. up next, it's been two weeks since the world learned of the omicron variant. what do we know and how worried should we be? hi mr. charles. we made you dinner. aww, thank you. ♪ ♪ you pour your heart into everything you do, which is a lot. so take care of that heart with lipton. because sippin' on unsweetened lipton can help support a healthy heart. lipton. stop chuggin'. start sippin'. ♪ ♪ cases of anxiety in young adults are rising as experts warn of the effects on well-being caused by the pandemic. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ are you a christian author with a book that you're ready to share with the world? get published now, call for your free publisher kit today! more than 200 million americans are now fully vaccinated, nearly 61% of the total pop lags. but far fewer, just a quarter, have gotten a booster. that's a problem because while we still have a lot to learn about the om krenn variant, experts know you're far safer from the extra shot than without it. >> if you have not got the booster and you're six months away from pfizer or moderna or two months from j&j, don't wait. this is the moment. christmas is coming. the zbeesing getting fat. don't wait. get the booster. >> dr. reiner is joining us for this conversation. dr. reiner, studies show us boosters were the best way to deter this new variant. but we're learning it's more contagious, perhaps less severe. tell us more broadly about your level of concern about this new variant. >> so this is what we know and actually there's probably more we don't know than we do know. we know this variant has probably dozens of mutations. some of these mutations look like they make this variant significantly more transmissible. some of early data suggests the virus doubling time is only about three to four days, which is much more rapid than delta. so we think it's more transmissible. we have now early data from pfizer suggesting that their vaccine in three-dose format, so three doses plus the booster, will effectively neutralize this so that needs to be verified and then the final piece is whether or not the variant produces more severe illness and early reports suggest maybe not, although i say that with a bit of a caveat in that many of the early infections in south africa occurred in younger people, so that's a group you would expect less severe infections. cdc's initial report of the first 43 cases in the united states, only one required hospitalization so there's really no evidence right now that the variant produces more severe infection but it appears to be more transmissible and we have to see in the united states, where 99% of infections currently are delta, whether this can outcompete delta and become the predominant variant. >> hospital cases are rising. the seven-day average shows 131,000 new cases yesterday alone and talk about hospitalizations, the lagging indicator here, it is increasing in december. yesterday 67,000 cases. what does this tell you? is this all because of delta? is this primarily because of delta and why are cases rising? >> all because of delta in the united states and all because we've only fully vaccinated in this country a little over 60% of the population and in fact, almost 18% of adults are unvaccinated. so that's 50 million people and delta is a very promise kus viv promiscuous virus. almost certain with omicron you are going to get infected. this vir us will tear through parts of the country and a week after people get infected you see the severity of illness that generates hospitalizations and people will continue to die. currently averaging about 1,200 deaths a day. sometime in the next two days we're going to pass a terrible milestone in this country when the 800,000th person in this country dies of this virus. this virus killed more people in this country than any single war. the civil war killed and i don't see war footing? where is the sense of urgency? >> a major fight about exactly how to deal with all of this including whether to impose new vaccine mandates that has been a huge battle in the courts, the president's vaccine mandates have been struck down by judges across the country, capitol hill last week, 52 senators, two democrats voted to block the business mandates on the vaccines going forward. listen to how republicans are messaging this issue. >> there's no bigger proponent of vaccination than i am but here's the thing. the united states america is a free country. >> there will be an economic shutdown. there will be brownouts. >> it's killing the american spirit of being able to make decisions about yourself. >> the vaccine mandate is illegal, it's unconstitutional and a grotesque abuse of power. >> how big of an issue is this in the midterms in >> a big issue. it's interesting, you can see the politicization of the vaccine mandates taking off on the hill with the quoted republicans sensing an opportunity to drum up their base and i've heard anecdotally from republicans they received more calls of people complain being vaccine mandates than they did during both impeachments, and for democrats i talked to front line democrats in the house facing difficult re-elections who don't want their leaders talking about this anymore. we saw initial poll numbers saying people support mandates. there's a clear prediction in both parties this will go the opposite way. >> dot mandates work? >> they do work. we've seen it work in the corporate level. 99% of the people who work for united airlines opted to get vaccinated. we've seen it work in the new york city level. you can't go to a restaurant, movie, theater and a huge part of the new york city population is now vaccinated and there's one more thing the biden administration can do, the biden administration should mandate vaccines for air travel in the united states. vaccines are broadly popular in this country. 83% of adults have been vaccinated. i can't think of another public policy measure in this country where you have 83% agreement. so 17% of the united states essentially is blocking this notion of a broad vaccine mandate. but unless we get more people vaccinated, this virus is not going to go away. >> that's the pressure on the biden administration, take more stringent action. if they do, what about the response be on cap itol hill. that's it for us. join us back here every sunday at 8:00 a.m. eastern and the weekday show at new. up next "state of the union" guests include fee in a director deann kriswell, kentucky governor steve beshear and arkansas governor asa hutchinson. it's that time of year, now more than ever the world needs heroes. anderson cooper and kelly ripa tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. see you next time. hey google. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ the only thing a disaster can't destroy is hope. ♪ donate now at redcross.org darkest days. dozens dead as a series of tornadoes churn across the midwest. >> i want to find my wife. >> as rescuers scramble to find survivors. do they have the help they need? 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