♪ ♪ in charlottesville, virginia more than four years since white supremacists descended on the city, hard to forget the images from the weekend. white supremacists marching with torches chanting jews will not replace us. >> defendants here, some of them individuals, white nationalists, neo-nazis designated as hate groups. >> men who made themselves white power brands. richard spencer, matthew parrot and jason kessler spent a month in federal court for racially committed violence. they said they were exercising their right to free speech and self-defense. during the trial, some of the defendants sat down with me. so why did you say that charlottesville is a success? >> this is our speaker for the night. >> did you do it on purpose and do you feel bad about it? >> it would have been better if they [ bleep ] me and shut the [ bleep ] up. >> the alt left and right were fighting back. >> did you plan to follow the law in charlottesville? did the lawsuit push you out of the movement? >> it was absolutely essential to the propaganda strategy to look like a victim. >> the alt-right stopped activism by wore out their usefulness because their views are main stream. >> looking back on charlottesville is remarkable it wasn't worse. >> you will not replace us! you will not replace us! you will not replace us! jews will not replace us! jews will not replace us! >> it was very clear it was a highly organized activity. like, this is a big organized movement. >> jews will not replace us! >> maybe two dozen kids around that statute trying to show some community resistance to organized racism. >> white lives matter! white lives matter! white lives matter! >> we own these streets! we occupy these grounds! we won! >> i think i was pretty enthusiastic that night. i thought wow things are exciting. everything is comieing together and so on. charlottesville was the end of the pique of the right. >> this courthouse is the home of the federal civil trial. it's against all the major organizers of the 2017 unite the right rally in charlottesville. it's the biggest consequence most of these guys have faced and it's not a criminal trial, it's a civil one. >> innocence like no matter what the verdict is you have already won because richard spencer said it was financially crippling. they don't hold public rallies anymore. whatever they might be doing behind the scenes, they're not able to get numbers in public. some have said they've been bankrupted. what do you think about that? >> people really need to understand that this is real. it's out there. that it allows people from all over the country and the world to organize in ways that were previously impossible and that is a real and present danger. >> just minutes ago we saw the first participants in today's unite the right rally arrive about 40 men and women in camouflage gear some with militia markings, virginia is an open carry state. >> the amount of guns, the type of guns, i mean, we weren't just talking about baby .22s and .9 glocks. so everything about that was just, it was so frightening. i thought it was going to be a blood bath. >> this is a historic victory for our people and we're moving out from the online space which we dominate and we're going to take over the real world. >> here to protest the removal of a statute of robert e. lee but to show they're more than an internet meme, they're a big real presence that can occupy a physical space. the alt-right is very organized. they have a lot of numbers, shields, protective gear like helmets. we've seen tear gas, water bottles thrown. >> people were literally getting stomped in the ground to the left. hit with flags here. maced over here. i've never ever seen anything like this. >> it was crazy. >> so violent. >> it was like a civil war happening. >> on a saturday morning. >> on a saturday morning. >> we're following breaking news out of virginia. the governor has declared a state of emergency in charlottesville. >> all day like i knew that something would happen but you couldn't pay me to believe that it would have been a car. i really would have thought it would have been something with a gun. ♪ ♪ >> our streets! our streets! >> i don't know how many people are hurt but there are people on the ground being treated by medics. there is many people on the side injured, too. it's a really horrific sound. >> it was too unreal to even -- i couldn't believe what i saw. >> we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry on many sides. >> i don't think it's ever been about a statute. i think it's been about right is right and wrong is wrong. >> james fields junior will likely spend the rest of his life in prison after being sentenced tuesday in the charlottesville car attack. he rammed his vehicle into a crowd of counter protesters at a white supremacist rally killing heather heyer. the jury returned a verdict of life and 419 years after four hours of deliberations. the same jury convicted fields of first-degree murder. >> the internet gave these guys the ability to organize in a way they've never been able to before but that turned into evidence because they left behind an enormous trail of receipts and some memes are about running protesters over with cars. what do you know? two months later james alex fields actually does it. why is this a civil case instead of a criminal case? >> in 2017 jeff sessions was leading the department of justice, and it was very clear to many people that the doj at that time was not going to pursue civil right the work with the enthusiasm it deserves so as private plaintiffs, what our plaintiffs can bring is a civil lawsuit and they did using the ku klux klan act, which is an 151-year-old statute to protect against the racially motivated violent conspiracies we saw here four years ago. >> one of the nine plaintiffs is liz signs who says fields' car almost hit her. >> i'll never forget watching them attack my fellow students or the feeling of running for my life. >> another plaintiff is natalie. she was hit by fields' car causing a skull fracture and concussion. thomas baker thought he would die and still has hip pain. marcus martin seen here in midair, his leg was broke and couldn't work for nine months. >> a lot of pain. a lot to cope with. >> what makes this case so interesting is that it brings the concept of incitement into the internet age saying an entire group of people should be expelled from the country or killed sooner or later isn't another political debate like marginal tax rates. it's harassment. healthier is seeing a healthcae pro whenever you may need one. doctor: the fever should break... or...trying to. ♪ ♪ this is what healthier looks like ♪ (whispering) he thinks it's a video game. man: he's learning. woman: and he doesn't even know it! muahahaha! ♪ mua-ha-ha-ha ♪ ♪ thank you ♪ ♪ thank you, osmo ♪ learning made fun. parenting made easier. are you one of the millions of americans who experience occasional bloating, gas or abdominal discomfort? 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i was making headlines every week. trump was also reaching people online and the alt-right became an advertising wing and the alt-right's anonymous i am not anonymous if i dare say so, i think i'm interesting. >> you mean you were a symbol of a broader movement that didn't have a face? >> exactly, yeah. and people could kind of freak out and love to hate me and maybe hate to love me. >> are you a virgin of the neo nazi movement. >> there was the punch of 2017 when political violence hits back and it was almost like the alt-right were fighting back so you have go punch that goldie locks or whatever. i feel like i was attached to all these people that want to come hang out in the alt-right and yeah, i just was too old. i was slumming. i don't know. >> did you think there would be any consequences to your slumming? >> to my slumming with those guys? >> to your word. lawfair? no. i feared there was going to be some kind of violence at a lot of those rallies. that was becoming present. i think i under estimated about a lot of people. i think a lot of people wanted to be me. one of the big things the alt-right was i want to be spencer. i want to be in the headlines. it created a tremendous amount of jealousy. >> so you knew you would attract attention if you went to this rally? >> to charlottesville? >> uh-huh. >> yeah. and i wanted attention. yeah. it was just kind of almost like a concert tour or something. >> spencer is here. this is our speaker for the night. this is why we're here, everybody. >> we own these streets! we occupy these grounds! >> did you plan to follow the law in charlottesville? >> i did follow the law. i don't know what to say. did i plan to follow the law? what do you mean. >> if you're willing to be arrested, you're going to get arrested. >> all right. >> we have a permit for this. we're staying 100%. there is no way i'm leaving. >> a few days before the rally, before your permit for the park was reinstated, you told me if it wasn't reinstated you guys would march the park anyway and try to get arrested. >> hmmm. i don't remember saying that, but what's your point? >> that one, you were planning the rally, the spectacle and two, you were planning to disobey the city orders. >> i was planning charlottesville because of that thing that i told you? >> you were certainly planning part of it. >> elle, this is just nonsense. you're trying to press me and press me and press me until i say something like yeah, i did charlottesville and we won in the violence, yeah. that's what it was all about because i'm a sick freak. give me a break, elle. >> i am coming back here every [ bleep ] weekend if i have to. like this is never over. i win. that's how the world [ bleep ] works. they get ruled by people like me. i'll probably never live down this rant from that day of i rule the [ bleep ] world and whatever. >> yeah, people like you look up at faces like me. >> yeah. we know what i'm talking about. okay? i felt like at that moment everything was kind of closing in. after charlottesville went in the way it went, there was no way to transfigure this movement. it was about computer programmers and basement dwellers or whatever. it was like there was this energy and opportunity around trump where it can be transformed into something i want and certainly after charlottesville, that was impossible. >> this is what happens when you really, truly unite the right. >> at the end of the day, unite the right means putting me next to azmodore who is disgusting and gross. i hate -- i don't like ugly, stupid freaks. it should have always just simply been about richard spencer. >> i'm not going home. i looked back on all of it and i kind of cringe a little bit. there was maybe some good aspects of it but a lot of things i regret. looking back on charlottesville, i think it's remarkable that it wasn't worse in terms of casualties to be honest. >> so what exactly do you regret? >> it's a big question. the problem is we don't have time machines and talking about them is just kind of speculative. >> so you can't name one thing you regret? >> well, what could i have done that could have, say, i guess you could say that not only would i have not agreed to go to charlottesville but i would have tried to stop charlottesville and heather heyer would be alive today. outside of that, of shutting down the whole thing and -- which is probably something i could not have actually done. >> you said you had many regrets. can you name one of them? >> yes. i regret -- i ultimately regret being a part of that whole crowd. all of that juvenile ironic nazi humor is so over. and i cringe when i even think about it now. >> i think i said this a couple times but you have said you have regrets. >> uh-huh. >> but every time i ask you to explain those regrets. >> i have explained them. >> it's framed in terms of i was hanging out -- >> i made those decisions -- >> with losers. >> i made those decisions. >> you're like i let myself get dragged down by this filth but those were your people. those are your guys. >> do you want me to go -- >> why don't you take responsibility for them. >> i have. >> if they wanted to be you and went into the street and beat people up, what does that say to you? >> you seem to just want to -- your entire point here is to prove that i'm a piece of and accept it. i'm not here to be insulted. maybe when someone is honest and expresses regret, you should probably allow them to do that as opposed to jumping on their [ bleep ] back. you know? >> do you regret injecting such explicit intense racism into the american politics? >> i did not inject that in there. if anything, i injected an ideology that could, you know, articulate something that's already there. are you tired of clean clothes that just don't smell clean? what if your clothes could stay fresh for weeks? now they can. downy unstopables in-wash scent boosters keep your laundry smelling fresh waaaay longer than detergent alone. pour a cap of downy unstopables into your washing machine before each load. and enjoy fresher smelling laundry. if you want laundry to smell fresh for weeks make sure you have downy unstopables in-wash scent boosters. shop online for downy unstopables, including our new, lighter scent. - san francisco can have criminal justice reform and public safety. but district attorney chesa boudin is failing on both. - the safety of san francisco is dependent upon chesa being recalled as soon as possible. - i didn't support the newsom recall but this is different. - chesa takes a very radical perspective and approach to criminal justice reform, which is having a negative impact on communities of color. - i never in a million years thought that my son, let alone any six-year-old, would be gunned down in the streets of san francisco and not get any justice. - chesa's failure has resulted in increase in crime against asian americans. - the da's office is in complete turmoil at this point. - for chesa boudin to intervene in so many cases is both bad management and dangerous for the city of san francisco. - we are for criminal justice reform. chesa's not it. recall chesa boudin now. i'm inviting all patriots to join us in charlottesville, virginia to take a stand not just for our confederate monuments but for our european identity. >> i thought it was pretty incredible with all the people that showed up. i thought that was the biggest rally i'd ever been in. >> good, good, good. go. >> i was involved in white nationalism for 25 years, i was the national leader of the national socialist movement. >> it's not about the uniform you wear, the colors you fly. it's about the color of our skin. >> why did you leave? >> i left the movement because i didn't believe in it anymore. >> did the lawsuit push you out of the movement? >> no. >> i don't think anybody changes their whole entire life because they've been sued. >> well, one of the interesting things about the alt-right it's trying to appear like upper class and i was wondering if that's a contrast to what is your experience. >> the alt-right is fluid and changing all the time. it's -- i don't just mean like oh, edgy memes and fashion haircuts and that sort of thing. different people only the alt right look down upon the working class and that was very different than the movement like especially in the '90s. >> and did those more moderate groups want to use the more hard right groups as the muscle. >> the hard right groups like the nsm, we were in the streets all those years when there was nobody in the streets. the alt-right probably would have liked to control the hard right groups and use them as muscle. this is, you know, we're the elite and we're going to control everything from the alt-right perspective and the hard right groups will protect us. >> i've been covering the white power movement since 2015. when people think of racist, they think of skin heads and beat people up. this new breed of racists is like nerds on the internet. people who were very smart and tech savvy able to act anonymously but as like a -- why did you say that charlottesville is a success afterwards? >> because the most important thing is raising awareness about the issues. >> you didn't even get to give a single speech. it was cancelled before it began. >> right, part of the national conversation about the importance of maintaining historical monuments that did happen. >> everyone paid attention to it because someone got murdered. >> the community defended ourselves against thugs in a battle that was brought by this city that wanted a blood bath. >> so you had to testify in court today but you guys wore black uniforms in part because it concealed blood. >> it's actually good reason. it that number one, that doesn't really -- if you're wearing a white polo shirt -- >> it's not how i usually plan my outfits. >> you aren't usually attacked by hordes of anti -- >> matt is represented by smith. he's a holocaust denier despite being raised jewish himself. >> let's go. >> another deposition that was played, there was a man posting with the discord user name tyrone in the discord chat server used to plan unite the right. his real name is michael chesnee. he was questioned at length about his post. >> you met multiple times with a guy that goes by tyrone michael chesnee that posted repeatedly about running protesters over with their cars literally saying i'm not posting, i'm asking is it legal to run protesters over with cars. >> i don't like michael chesnee. >> you met him multiple times. >> did you think to say, don't talk like that. some idiot kit will take your seriously? >> the media wants to find the young men making jokes that are a middle finger to folks like yourself that are so -- >> of course it can be that. but you can also mean it. when did you become anti antis-semitic? >> 34. >> oh. >> not that long ago comparatively to my life. i've been conservative, right? my exposure to people on twitter that we're making a lot of sense. there was a meme actually. this one says it's impossible to round up 11 million people and ship them somewhere you stupid consecutive and this guy says why are you denying the holocaust? it's easy to sell this. >> how does your family feel about you going so far ? >> i don't talk about politics much with my parents at all. >> the holocaust isn't like politics. >> they can't talk about that. people have a blind spot for it, jews especially have a blind spot for it. >> are you both on twitter still? >> i am. >> what? >> yeah, you can't stop me. >> there is a group called traditionalests workers party with his buddy matt parrot. parrot was the tech guy behind the scenes. >> i've been kicked off twitter i think three times now, maybe four. i come back each time as a middle-aged black businesswoman. if you come back and immediately friend a bunch of white nationalists, they're on to that. >> they know. >> the algorithm checks that. if i'm talking to other middle-aged black women, the algorithm can't figure that out and you're constantly playing a game of chicken with increasingly sophisticated and intrusive algorithms trying to hunt us. >> that's intrusive. >> it's a game. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ (whispering) he thinks it's a video game. man: he's learning. woman: and he doesn't even know it! muahahaha! ♪ mua-ha-ha-ha ♪ ♪ thank you ♪ ♪ thank you, osmo ♪ learning made fun. parenting made easier. as carla wonders if she can retire sooner, she'll revisit her plan with fidelity. and with a scenario that makes it a possibility, she'll enjoy her dream right now. that's the planning effect, from fidelity. ♪ ♪ ♪ hey google. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ (music) ♪ i think to myself ♪ ♪ what a wonderful world ♪ (music) ♪ i think to myself ♪ ♪ what a wonderful world ♪ what do you think this means for the alt-right protest? >> we're up to the challenge. >> tough to top. someone died. >> i think that a lot more people will die before we're done here, frankly. >> why? >> because people die every day. right? i mean, not a heart attack. vie violeolent death. >> people die violent deaths all the time. right? this is part of the reason that we won the state. the blacks are killing each other in staggering numbers from coast-to-coast. we don't want part of that anymore so the fact that they resist us when we say hey, we want a homeland is not shocking to me. all right? these people want violence and the right is just meeting market demand. >> one of the most notorious defendants started his closing arguments and argued he never planned to commit violence that weekend and didn't want violence. >> the plaintiff's attorneys showed text messages from cantwell, i'm willing to risk a lot for our cause including violence and incarceration. >> before charlottesville, the organizers told me part of the propaganda strategy was to look like their ideas were so powerful and so dangerous that the state had to violently suppress it. they wanted to go out there and i get arrested because it made them look like victims. it was essential to the propaganda strategy. they said they want to show their ideas are being violently repressed. this is cantwell at the scene macing someone. cantwell was bragging about this on his website. >> police are nowhere to be found. >> i do not want violence with you. i'm terrified. i'm afraid you're going to kill me. i really am. >> cantwell found out there was a warrant for his arrest. he freaked out and was in a hotel and posted this crazy video. >> we used every peaceful and lawful means by which to redress our grievances. >> after that he's known as the crying nazi on the internet. in july 2018, cantwell pled guilty to two misdemeanor accounts for pepper spraying people at the march. >> he kind of lost it when i pressed charges against him for pepper spraying me on august 11th. since then he has maintained this obsession that i'm like this national leader of antifa which is an absurd allegation and he's filed hundreds of pages of documents about me even though i'm not a party and rather than admitting he did something wrong and saying sorry, he's going to bury himself by through this obsession. >> a man has been sentenced to 41 months in prison. cantwell is in prison because he's convicted of extortion in september 2020. he was being harassed by a white supremacist group called bull patrol because they're fans of dylann roof that murdered nine black people at a church and he had a bowl haircut. he said if you can't give me information on a third member, i'll rape your wife in front of your kids. a pretty dramatic moment at trial is when chris cantwell was forced to sit there and listen to his own words. these guys talked about how dylann roof was a loser so just the type of person that you would want to commit mass murder. >> some of us just got to be cannon fire for the race war. >> this is the jail where cantwell is staying somewhere inside there is chris cantwell in a black and white striped suit. he's called me a couple times from prison. hey, chris, how are you doing? 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♪ the snow's comin' down ♪ -mommy? ♪ i'm watching it fall ♪ watch the full story at www.xfinity.com/sing2 this just in. the federal jury has reached a verdict on some of the claims but remains deadlocked on others. >> this verdict constitutes nothing short of a devastating financial blow. while the jury was not able to reach a verdict on two key federal claims of conspiracy to commit racially motivated violence. they found the defendants the white supremacists liable for four other claims and assessed more than $26 million in compensatory and punitive damage. among them finding five defendants were liable for racial harassment or violence. and that all the defendants participated in a conspiracy. >> this verdict today is a message that this country doesn't tolerate violence based on racial and religious hatred. in any form. >> so the jury found that all of the groups were part of the conspiracy. even if they didn't have a piece of every single thing that happened. it sets an important precedent. if the leaders are out there glamorizing violence. as spencer did. planning for violence. then when the followers come to their events and participate in the violence, the leaders can be held responsible. >> i think it's a sobering lesson to any organizer in extremist politics. >> i'm a little bit shocked. we have been just so upset with the american justice system at this point. being a person of color. i just didn't expect the out come that happened. am i happy for it? absolutely. i think we have to definitely put out a message that you cannot come here and you can't do that. >> building up o charlottesville there was like an increasing amount of like street fights and the mainstream opinions. that's free speech. another political opinion. and charlottesville happened. it's like oh, no. it's not just another political opinion. this is actually just about violence. >> i think it took the events that happened in washington. i think if the insurrection would have never happened, we wouldn't have a victory. in charlottesville. i'm a if i recall believer in free speech. i'm a firm believer. i'm for the first amendment. free speech ends and shuts down when violence occurred. >> the backlash from sh charlottesville crushed the alt right. those specific groups. but didn't crush white power itself. >> the right decision was made. we have so much work to do on the ground in local government. and state government. and our federal government. >> nazi -- >> all the defendants in the case are destitute. none of them have money. >> will you reduce the damages. >> we have to make a motion to have it reduced. >> there's a lot of talk about about whether any of the money will actually be seen. >> the punitive damages were really high. that has to be smaller. so it's possible the judge will lower the damages on that claim. >> it doesn't take much to bankrupt a person like me. >> what are you going to do now? >> somebody of my means, i don't have $500,000 for the plaintiffs. even if i would like to. i suppose there will be some kind of wage garnish. and i'll get on with my life. >> i lost my job. last week. which was fun. >> where were wrou working and what happened? >> i was enjoying working under the golden arches. >> did colleagues say i didn't know you were a modern racist. you left white nationalism? >> i have. there's no expiration date for how long your life will be ruined. >> what happens if you lose this lawsuit? >> what immediately happens is i would appeal. and if you don't appeal it depends on what the actual judgment amount is. and i don't know. maybe a life of bankruptcy. >> do you have money? >> i don't have much money. personally. but, i'll be okay. i'm not scared. they can do whatever they want. it won't change my life or lifestyle. so, yeah. >> this is the thing i never looked up at the statue the whole day. >> this started it all. the lee statue. the mayhem. this is what reeked havoc in charlottesville. the robert e. lee statue. >> the statue of general robert e. lee. which over looked a park that held the deadly unite the right rally. hoisted away. the end of a long and bloody battle for one city. grappling with how to tell our nations story. >> a part of me i'm glad he's gone. but then a part of me i'm like, the issue is bigger than the statue. because you can remove all the statues in the world. if the system still stays the same. it does stand against black folks. >> i'm glad he's gone off the horse. i'm glad he's not sitting on the high horse anymore. because we weren't at the table when they created this stuff. but, even if if you have people that believe in those systems, that led us to being where we were. august of 12. good evening. if all news is ultimately about the difference and the distance between then and now, then this was the biggest news night.