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>> thank you very much, wolf. welcome to "cnn tonight." representatives greene, gosar, now boebert, have found themselves at the center of a growing capitol hill storm as progressives put pressure once again on speaker pelosi to strip a republican of their house committee assignments. this time it's colorado congresswoman lauren boebert, under fire for islamophobic remarks against congresswoman ilhan omar. boebert called her a member of the jihad squad and is, worst of all, unapologetic. every time i hear one of those "to the extent i've offended anyone" apologies, tune it out. that's not heartfelt. there's been no apology to omar herself. today a group of house progressives, led by ayanna pressley of massachusetts, introduced a resolution to remove boebert from her committee assignments. >> it is shameful that we have had to wait this long for meaningful action, for meaningful accountability, but here we are. for a member of congress to repeatedly and unapologetically use hateful, racist, and islamophobic tropes towards a muslim colleague is dangerous. words have consequences. we must acknowledge that and respond with action. >> but will these calls result in action? speaker pelosi is holding her cards close to the vest. >> i'm ready -- when i'm ready to announce that, i'll let you know. >> gop leader kevin mccarthy seems to always leave it to democrats to discipline his own, a reluctance he does not seem to have when displeased with his own moderates. there are very few in the gop willing to call out crazy these days. usually that's a task left to adam kinzinger, maybe liz cheney. perhaps now you can add congressman dan crenshaw of texas. >> there's two types of members of congress. there's performance artists. there's legislators. every single time we were voting on donald trump's agenda, who do you think was at the top of that list voting with trump and who do you think was at the bottom? everybody at the freedom caucus was at the bottom. all of them. what you hear so often is not true. it's not true. we have grifters in our midst, even in the conservative movement. lie after lie after lie. >> he's referring to members of house freedom caucus, a group that includes boebert, gosar, and greene, when saying all they want is attention. case in point? it's this. congressman thomas massey, republican from kentucky, puts out that holiday photo of his gun-toting family soon after four teenagers were murdered in a school shooting. then after that caused a storm on the internet, congresswoman boebert decides to piggyback on it in a show of support with her own family firearm photo. look, there are lots of amat amateurish, bad actors in washington. but we need to stop rewarding them with the attention they crave. to be clear, lauren boebert deserves punishment like gosar and greene. but not censure or loss of committee assignments. these efforts may carry weight in congress but for the average person they just ensure the offender becomes more relevant. in the cable world and a punch line on late night tv. censure is not as severe as expulsion but it's stronger than a reprimand. censure used to mean something and be feared by members. like when in 1983, representatives gerry studs and daniel crane were censured for having sex with 17-year-old congressional pages. yeah, that happened. in 2010, representative charlie rangel, then the chair of ways and means, was censured after having been found to have committed multiple violations of ethics rules. forma for rangel, that was a big deal. giving censure to boebert or greene are like handing car keys to a teen who just misbehaved. it presumes these members are there to legislate, which they are not. today, they are there to evoke passion and raise money. the best punishment for that trio is to ignore them. make them the voldemort of the u.s. house. the names that will not be uttered. additionally, if democrats continue to single out every act of egregious conduct, get ready for republicans to respond in kind should they retake the house next year. you remember kevin mccarthy's speech when gosar was censured? >> rules for thee but not for me. >> the members he singled out included representative omar, the very target of boebert's insults. it was omar who tweeted it was israel who hypnotized the world and said it's all about the benjamins, baby, in reference to a pro-israel lobbying group. at least omar issued a robust apology then. nevertheless, should republicans take the house in 2022, how long before it's omar on the receiving end of censure finished by house speaker kevin mccarthy? sometimes the silent treatment is the worst punishment of all. that's my take. reach out to me via social media this hour, whether you agree or disagree and i'll share some responses during the course of the program. let's bring in a democrat in congress, representative conor lamb from pennsylvania, now running for the u.s. senate. congressman, thanks for being here. you heard what i just had to say. what's your response? >> i think the first thing to point out is that we, democrats writ large, are in no way eager to go around, you know, doing these resolutions, stripping people from their committees, taking these kind of actions. we would prefer that things like this were not necessary. that's why we're not rushing in response to representative boebert's horrible comments about one of my colleagues. i think the speaker actually had it right when she said it's on the house republicans to take some responsibility for their own members and she's trying to give them time and space to do that. this isn't why we show up in washington, we would all rather be talking about the results that we're delivering for the american people. but we've tried to draw a line somewhere around the issue of violence. and unfortunately, this year, 2021 began with an example none of us will ever forget about how the right wing megaphones at this point in the country are capable of causing actual deadly violence in our country. we can't forget that. i think if you were a member of representative omar's family, if you were her mother or father and saw the comments that were made, you would be afraid about what would be facing your child at that point. and you have to think about it from that perspective too. >> right, but as twisted as it sounds, you make these folks fundraising superstars when you do single them out, right? they're all the stuff of cable television. i'm sure somebody's going to tweet, hey, michael, you're talking about them right now, but i am, to make my point that i think we need to ice them out because all it does is -- look, congressman, thery're not there to do what i think you're there to do, which is to accomplish things. they're there to stay there by getting oxygen on public television, terrestial talk radio, and fund raise. >> that's true, but part of the reason these people get so much attention is because they are fundraising superstars already. they are taking these aggressive actions because they feel like they already know who their audience and i ttheir base is. so the decision for us is to consider whether we still have faith in the broad american public's ability to understand our ethics and our reason for acting and why we would try to draw a line at the causation of violence or the encouragement of violence against any member, by the way, not just against democrats or republicans but against any of us. you know, we had multiple colleagues who had death threats, very realistic death threats, just for voting for the infrastructure bill. i mean, something that would never have happened historically. that was republicans that that happened to. that's why we have to take this so seriously. like i said, no one is really going in search of these fights, we would much rather be talking about other things. but i think we feel some responsibility to try to protect our own members and promote some reasonable standard of conduct toward how we treat each other. and we're hoping that the house republicans in this case will step in and take care of their own side of the street. >> you heard the speech from kevin mccarthy that i cited briefly, rules for thee and not for me. and he rattled off i think five members, five of your colleagues. what of the prospect that sudden it would be democratic behavior that's under a microscope and perhaps some of your colleagues in your caucus will then be censured? >> leader mccarthy deals in false equivalencies on a full-time basis. that speech was rambling and incoherent. my assessment of him is he will do whatever he wants and whatever he feels will deliver him short term power and satisfaction. to begin with, what we have to think about is the fact that the lauren boeberts and marjorie taylor greenes of the world speak to a well-armed, animated, angry audience on a day-to-day basis through their social media and we have to try to limit their damage to the extent possible. so again, this isn't something that we are eager to do, most of us. but we will do what needs to be done to protect our members, whether they look like me, whether they are women of color, whether they are muslim or christian or nothing, they all deserve to be able to do their job without getting death threats. and we have to do our part to try to make that possible. >> quick final question. you have to survive a tough senate primary in order to get to a general election. should you do so, maybe you face dr. oz. what do you make of that prospect? >> i would certainly look forward to that debate. i mean, he doesn't seem to have any connection with our state that i know of. and he's sort of typical of the modern republican, which is that they are much more loyal to donald trump's brand and agenda than they are to the place that they seek to represent. and that's true for a number of candidates in this race. and i think that's going to be a lot of what the general election is about. i'm a democrat, but i have consistently talked about being a pennsylvania democrat, putting the interests of pennsylvania first. our jobs, our economy. the issues that are specific to us. and i've lived there almost my entire life, so i have a pretty strong basis for saying that. >> even before he got in, i've been telling anyone who will listen that all eyes will be on pennsylvania. and we've got the hottest senate race in the country coming up next year. and you factor into it. thank you for being here, congressman lamb, i appreciate it. >> thanks for having me, michael. >> what are your thoughts the women tweet me @smerconish. smerconish, how should they handle the far left? that's a bigger problem but you are on cnn so i don't expect any balance. i just made the point that ilhan omar herself has unclean hands with tweets that i regarded as being as anti-semitic. to be fair i also need to point out she did what boebert and gosar and greene never do which is to offer a forthright apology. so i'm not afraid to call out any of that conduct or i wouldn't have referenced that at the end of the commentary, would i? next. what do we have? smerconish, we should laugh at them and treat them like the clowns they are. what we shouldn't do is line up the squad to throw a collective tantrum every time they get trolled, that never works. james, you get my point. you know, click around and listen to alternative media sources and see the kind of play they get. this is exactly what they want to do. all they want to do once they get to dc is stay there. and you heard my pitch maybe on monday night, right? old school was, you came to washington, you were a back bencher, you bided your time, you achieved seniority, got a choice committee assignment, then a chairmanship, and tried to get things done. one more. the far right in congress is counting on the far left in congress being too busy putting the nut jobs in the corner for a time out. can i just say this, benjamin z. firestone, and i should have made this point to congressman conor lamb, any time this is gathering oxygen, what's not being discussed are gas prices. grocery prices. all those issues that steve bullock, the former governor the montana who was my guest two nights ago, and he said democrats, get out of the city. the issues that people are focused on don't get any attention and that's not in anybody's best interests, republican, independent, democrat. keep that social media coming because i love responding to it. to america's growing crime crisis, next. what's behind the biggest spikes in murder ever more in a dozen major cities and why does the d.a. in my hometown of philadelphia deny the violent truth? 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(gasps) ♪ did it work? only pay for what you need ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ spider-man no way home in theaters december 17th at least a dozen major american cities are experiencing record murder rates. it's a story repeated in red states and blue states, east coast, west coast, throughout the heartland. this comingses after 2020 saw of the biggest spikes in murder ever. at the same time, we keep seeing scenes like this or these organized smash and grabs and looting where of these seem to get away scot-free, pointing out that overall crime was worse in the '90s is of little comfort. which is why pew shows a jump in americans worried about crime. philadelphia district attorney larry crassner insisted this week that his city doesn't have a crisis of crime or of violence, even though philly has more murders this year than any of the other cities i showed you at the start with record homicide rates. the city's former mayor, michael nutter, calls comments like that ignorant and insulting, asking in a recent op-ed, quote, what kind of messed up world of white wokeness crassner is living in, to have so little regard for many lives lost, many of them black and brown, while he progression his -- advances his own progressive reputation. correlation or causation? >> certainly both. you look at jurisdictions where progressive prosecutors have common to an office like philadelphia and you do see record homicide rises, u.s. said, you see drops in felony conviction rates. a study found 20% fewer felony convictions in progressive jurisdictions. and you see fewer police cases getting solved because police have to work hand in glove with prosecutors. and you see record numbers of the kind of seasoned, experienced prosecutors whom you want in a prosecutor's office because they have that sophistication to handle murder and gang violence and rape, leaving in record numbers because of such an inhospitable environment and an office in which the prosecutors have lost sight of their primary mission and mandate which is to represent the people against criminals and keep us safe. and your former mayor, michael nutter, said it so well. >> okay, but these individuals were all elected. i don't know what happened here. i came of age politically in an era where the way to get elected as a district attorney was to thump your chest and promise everybody that you would lock up the bad guys and fthrow away th key. that's no longer the formula. talk about larry crassner, he was just reelected. to be fair to him, all these issues were just litigated in the election and he was successful. so what explains it? >> you know, i think a lot of people don't realize the impact of prosecutorial policies. very few people vote in these elections, voted in the reelection for crassner. and there's a lot of funding by people for whom they want to see the kinds of prosecutorial policy, they want to see a lot of crimes not getting prosecuted like gun possession, like shoplifting. and they realize that if you put the right prosecutor in office, you can sidestep the entire process of having crimes, you know, having laws put into place by legislatures. it's much more effective to simply fund a prosecutor into office and effect that kind of change. and voters so far have not i think realized it enough to come out and change it. >> hannah, quick response if you're able. the pandemic. i mean, come on, we live in strange times. doesn't the pandemic explain some of this? that's what a critic of your perspective would say. >> sure, and people have been asking that. but when you look at the types of crimes that are going up, gang violence, the type of organized shoplifting that's in san francisco, that's led to the 500% rise in shoplifting, where you see organized rings going and cleaning out stores, fencing those goods and using it as part of larger gang activity and violence -- >> chasa budin faces a recall. do you think he'll be recalled? >> i hope so. certainly what we've seen, the waukesha massacre, the shooting of the university student recently. >> horrible. >> gut-wrenching. it's a failure of those prosecutors and they respond with this kind of oops-a-daisy. >> such a sad story. hannah meyers, thank you. the former mayor of philadelphia, michael nutter, who i just mentioned, will be here tomorrow night. tweet me @smerconish. what do you have to say? why are you giving credibility to something the right wing echo chamber just made up? how about talking more about the real link between the number of guns and shootings? hey, just because the crime issue gets a lot of play in other quarters, and i see it, doesn't mean it's not a worthy or legit issue. do we have the ability to put back on the screen right now the spike in crime and the pew data? vaughn, can you put up any that have to respond to this individual? okay. it's numbers-driven. this is not -- okay. take a look at the u.s. murder rate. and now tell me i'm just falling into some right wing echo chamber. i would be derelict in my duty if i didn't discuss this. what's the next social media? smerconish, the question seems like one that can be answered definitively with data. when that is the case, seeking opinions is kind of pointless unless the goal is to highlight political divisiveness. that's not your goal, is it, michael? no. i think i asked the appropriate questions, what's the impact of the pandemic, is this correlation or causation. what question would you have asked of my guest? because she has a perspective, i'm not supposed to bring her on? come on. is social media hazardous to the health of young users? instagram's chief got a grilling on capitol hill about that. what will his company do to make his platform safer for children? did his answers satisfy? i've got the expert on kids on the web, next. ♪ i'm gonna keep on lovin' you ♪ turns out everyone does sound better in the shower. and it turns out the general is a quality insurance company that's been saving people money for nearly 60 years. for a great low rate, and nearly 60 years of quality coverage, go with the general. the hammerschteins are saving big holiday shopping at amazon. so now they're free to become... the handbell hammerschteins. ♪ just pure artistry. at fidelity, your dedicated advisor will work with you on a comprehensive wealth plan across your full financial picture. a plan with tax-smart investing strategies designed to help you keep more of what you earn. this is the planning effect. - san francisco can have criminal justice reform and public safety. but district attorney chesa boudin is failing on both. - the safety of san francisco is dependent upon chesa being recalled as soon as possible. - i didn't support the newsom recall but this is different. - chesa takes a very radical perspective and approach to criminal justice reform, which is having a negative impact on communities of color. - i never in a million years thought that my son, let alone any six-year-old, would be gunned down in the streets of san francisco and not get any justice. - chesa's failure has resulted in increase in crime against asian americans. - the da's office is in complete turmoil at this point. - for chesa boudin to intervene in so many cases is both bad management and dangerous for the city of san francisco. - we are for criminal justice reform. chesa's not it. recall chesa boudin now. today the head of instagram faced tough questions from a senate subcommittee about the site's potential harmful impact on younger users. while he acknowledged the need for updated regulations, he also admitted to lawmakers a loophole in a default privacy setting meant to protect teens. >> i learned of that just this morning. it turns out that we default those under the age of 16 to private accounts for the vast majority of accounts who are created -- which are created on android and ios. we miss that can on the web. we will correct that quickly. >> i want to discuss with our guest why today's kids are growing up more tolerant, less rebellious, less happy, and completely unprepared for adulthood. doctor, let me set this up as follows. for 25 years or thereabouts you studied data pertaining to generational differences and you noted something that alarmed you relative to 2012. pick up the story. >> right, so i got used to seeing generational changes that were big, but they would take a decade or two to get there. around 2012 i started to notice changes in teens' mental health in particular that were huge and sudden. just one example, teen depression doubled between 2012 and 2019. self-harm went up. suicide went up. across the board, these enormous changes in mental health began to appear. >> this is based on your data. going out with parents, can we put it up on the screen? i don't know if you can see this, but it's pretty alarming. i've drawn a red line in the year 2012. and you can see an enormous drop in progress, going out with parents. let's do the next one. less dating. again, an enormous decline. the third one, more likely to feel lonely. that escalates in 2012. losing sleep. same type of escalation. what does this have to do, in your opinion, with 2007's introduction of the iphone? >> so the end of 2012 was the first time that the majority of americans owned a smartphone. it's also right at the time when social media use among teens moved from being optional to virtually mandatory. it was around the time you got about 75%, 80% of teens starting to be on social media every day. so if you weren't on it, you were left out. if you are on it, as we know from facebook's own research, there are all these consequences. >> pretty convincing, then. i see causation. do you still use the word "correlation"? >> i do, simply because from a scientific point of view, it is very hard to prove causation when you're thinking about generations and change over time. but i can ask this question. what else changed teens' lives so fundamentally around that time, and then kept going through the present time? and the answer is nothing. >> so today the head of instagram testified, i guess the big question to ask you is, what's to be done? >> right. so, you know, what instagram is suggesting is, they're trying, but it's too little, too late. they say they want instagram and the other platforms to be safer for teens. but they don't verify age. you're supposed to be 13 to have a social media account. and there's 10, 8, 12-year-olds on these platforms all the time. plus 13 is probably too young. so we want to have a safer platform for, say, 13 to 17-year-olds. and they say let's have parental controls and do all these things. none that have is going to do any good if you don't verify age. it's like, i don't want my parent to control me online. they just put in a different birth year. >> right. >> it's crazy. >> my takeaway from reading your book, which is excellent and alarming, is that too many young americans are spending time behind closed doors trying to create some portrayal of a normal existence instead of leading one. >> that's exactly right, that there's all this time and attention put into it, i'm going to take the perfect selfie, i want to make sure i get the likes, that i get the followers. instead of actually going out and experiencing life, actually spending time with other people face-to-face and developing social skills and those emotional connections. this is what we've become. and teens are on the front lines of that. >> dr. twenge, i know you're raising children of your own. any tip for the rest? >> my number one suggestion is no phones in the bedroom overnight. that at least we can protect sleep time from being disrupted by notifications, by kids staying up late or staying up all night trying to see if their instagram post got enough likes. get enough sleep. that will at least help some with mental health. >> thanks so much for being here. >> thank you very much. >> jean twenge's book is called "i-gen." why is one government agency trying to ban employees from wearing certain masks on the job? does it violate free speech to ban face covering than say black lives matter? we'll talk to an attorney representing the workers' union in court, next. with less moderate-to-severe eczema, why hide your skin if you can help heal your skin from within? dupixent helps keep you one step ahead of eczema with clearer skin and less itch. hide my skin? not me. don't use if you're allergic to dupixent. serious allergic reactions can occur, including anaphylaxis, which is severe. tell your doctor about new or worsening eye problems, such as eye pain or vision changes, or a parasitic infection. if you take asthma medicines, don't change or stop them without talking to your doctor. ask your doctor about dupixent. with directv stream i can get live tv and on demand anywhere. look, serena williams... matrix... serena... matrix... serena... matrix... ♪ ♪ ♪ get your tv together with the best of live and on demand. introducing directv stream. 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that's one of several absu absurdities behind the trump platform, which is not at all ironically called truth social. the company has a market valuation of 1.6 billion despite having no product, no users or revenue. and its business plan projects 81 million users and 3.6 billion in rev by '26. sounds legit, right? totally. but their mission is almost as revealing. it's dedicated to the free flow of ideas and expression without censorship. this is fundamentally at odds with true social's own terms of service which states that users cannot disparage, tarnish or otherwise harm in our opinion, us and/or the site. this is a perfect summation of the trumpist attitude towards free speech. anything goes as long as you don't disrespect the donald. don't strain yourself looking for consistency of principles, but do recognize the trumpist rallying cry of free speech is a self-serving fig leaf to cover up their own inner snowflake, hypocrisy and greed, grift and grand standing, they all go together. there's a tragedy in here somewhere as well. the dissent of devin nunes shows how corrupting the current incentive strategy can be. the man who once derided lemons in suicide vests ended up becoming one himself. that's your reality check. it's flooring, you can be the next -- let's be fair, he's got a real shot had he stayed of being chair of ways and means. it gets no better, nor powerful, in a bygone era, you'd work and pray your whole career to get that gig, ask instead in this era, no, i'd rather take this media flyer. it says a lot about where real power rests. >> that's exactly right. it's about power. it's about propaganda, and it's about profit. it's not about public policy. >> wow. nice work. >> thanks, man. >> we'll be right back with more of your social media reaction. 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