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century. gloria borger takes a look back at the life and legacy of bob dole. >> bob dole was one of the oldest people at the 2016 republican convention at the age of 92. but he still remembered exactly how he felt two decades earlier when he was losing to bill clinton. >> get up in the morning and you charge out there, and you work all day and if you don't have that attitude, you know, you go out there and make a half-hearted speech and people will know this guy is a loser. >> this guy was anything but a loser. consider the accomplishments. eight years in the house, 27 in the senate. he was senate majority leader twice. bob dole was an american here earning o. during world war ii he was hit by machine gunfire. he spent years recuperating and lost the use of one arm. >> just one of the many reasons why he was the driving force behind the construction of the world war ii memorial in washington. every saturday health permitting dole would be there to greet his fellow vets. >> how are you doing, all right? >> i feel good. >> not bad, huh? >> i've got a bad knee. >> join the club. >> he never forgot losing the presidency, but there were moments when those memories receded. >> when they are doing something like that, you don't think about '96, '88 or any other year. >> yeah, i know you. we were in italy together. >> i'll be darned. >> wow. those are precious moments. with me right now cnn presidential historian tim nestle, also the former director of the nixon presidential library. tim, i mean, just seeing that moment of how important and significant it was for fellow world war ii veterans to have access to him, particularly at one of his legacies, you know, and the creation of that beautiful memorial there on the grounds of the washington mall, what are your thoughts about his lasting legacy and how he directly and indirectly touched so many? >> well, first of all, bob dole was a war hiroko and like senator inouye of hawaii, he bore the scars of world war ii for the rest of his life and found public service, enormous public service. bob dole described himself as traditional conservative and emerged in a political era when you could be fiercely loyal to your party and to your president, the president that came from your party, and still work with the other side. bob dole in an interview with the nixon library in 2008 said that not every good idea comes from one party, and as a result in the 1970s bob dole worked with hubert humphrey and with george mcgovern to save the food stamp program, and after he left office he again worked with mcgovern on an international plan for food security. he also worked on a bipartisan -- worked with a bipartisan group to save social security in 1983, even though he was still loyal to president reagan who preferred a privatized social security plan. he worked with democrats to come up with a plan that save a nationally directed social security plan. in 1990 he worked so hard to help create the americans with disabilities act, so although bob dole was definitely a partisan, he believed he could be and should be a partisan, he was also willing to work with democrats to make this a better country. bob dole was have a from different era. >> and getting all that have done that you just spelled out, clearly you had to be tough and we know that he was and he was also wit which so many speak of, and perhaps it's that attribute that may have helped him be able to negotiate with people on both sides and get things done. >> well, fred, he definitely had a sharp tongue which got him into trouble, but he was also a man of good humor and he made many, many friends on capitol hill and not -- not always from the same party. there's something else that needs to be kept in mind about bob dole. bob dole lost his job as chairman of the republican national committee in 1973 because he wouldn't do everything that the nixon white house wanted him to do. the nixon white house wanted him to engage in the politics of personal destruction. in fact, it started in 1969 after chappaquiddick when the white house hoped that he would work with them in a campaign against teddy kennedy, and, again, in 1972 the white house wanted him to say things about "the washington post" owner that he didn't believe and he wasn't about to do, so bob dole, there were limits. he was loyal. he believed loyalty was important, but he was -- he also believed in ethics and he believed in politics where you could be friends with the person you disagreed with and the person you beat on the floor of the senate. >> nice points. as we look as these pictures and right by his side all the time elizabeth dole. can we talk about their union, their partnership, their marriage of so many years. i mean, she was a cabinet secretary herself, and together they were indeed a powerful d.c. couple. >> they were a powerful couple. you no doubt wanted to be invited to spend time with them, and they were both in their own way dedicated to public service. i think a real takeaway when we stud eat life somebody like bob dole, we live in such a harsh political climate, a toxic political climate today. bob dole is a reminder that you can have sharp elbows. you can be really tough in american politics and still be a decent human being and try to work for a better country. bob dole wanted government to be small, absolutely. he wanted to cut taxes. but he didn't want to destroy government. he believed the federal government had a role to play in our lives. he would disagree with liberal democrats about how big that role was, but he accepted that there was a role. he knew that there were times when the most vulnerable among us, and he knew what it was like to be vulnerable, needed help, and he was there. i think that's the takeaway today. >> yeah, i mean, demonstrating that empathy and use the power that he had to help others. that's pretty extraordinary. so, you know, we know that dole lost the 1996 presidential race to bill clinton, and today clinton sent out this tweet on dole saying this. bob dole dedicated his entire life to serve vinagre the american people from his heroism in world war ii to the 35 years he spent in congress. after all he gave in the war, he didn't have to give more, but he did. his example should inspire people today and for generations to come. i mean, the two men from very different generations, had very different backgrounds but i've seen the photos and seen, you know, some of the stories. they actually barnlgs you know, adversaries, you know, an -- and friends and seeing eye to eye on many occasions. >> and bob dole ran an atrocious campaign in 1996 which he later acknowledged, but i want to tell quickly one story about another political adversely. there was enormous tension between george herbert walker bush and bob dome they real disliked each other. bob dole saw him as someone who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and bob dole lived a hardscrabble life and even they became friendly after he left pour. one of the better photo, of them was him saluting the casket. >> we did pull that video, tim. so glad you helped explain the contrast of hour their relations were and then how it culminated in that salute that -- that -- that now the late senator bob dole gave to the late president george h.w. bush. thank you so much. tim nestle, thank you so much for your reflections, your word and your knowledge of great history. thank you so much. still ahead, police identify a person of interest who they believe helped the parents of the suspected school shooter in michigan hide from authorities. new details on that straight ahead. plus, families frustrated and looking for answers after a navy water system in hawaii becomes contaminated and gets people sick. we'll tell you what's causing the problem next. ♪ rock music ♪ >> man: so i'm not taking any chances whwhen something happens to it. so when my windshield cracked... my friend recommended safelite autoglass. they came right 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>> or a request of searching the bag in a he had at that time. >> all right. athena jones, thank you so much for that. >> all right. now to this water crisis in hawaii. the city of honolulu has shut down its largest water source which comes from the navy's base near pearl harbor after officials found petroleum chemicals in one of its wells. natasha chen is following this from los angeles. nat sharks hundreds of people had complained about problems with the water recently talking about what they were ingesting. >> right. so, fred, the navy says they have gotten calls from neighbors talking about symptoms like nausea, vomiting, diarrhea and headaches and skin related conditions, people who may have been exposed to the contaminated water. on thursday the navy found a likely source of the contamination believed to be petroleum chemicals believed to be from the red hills well. they had isolated that well and then the board of water supply found out about that. just to give you a sense of what the navy is saying right now, let's show their statement. it says that the results of the red hill sample showed petroleum hydrocarbons roughly four to step times below the department of health protection level. they continued to say the navy is developing a plan to restore the potable water system to epa standards. identifying how the contaminant got in the well and fix the well. meantime, the board of water supply also released a statement because they have h, to as you say, shut down honolulu's largest water supply saying we're deeply concerned that we were not notified immediately by the navy raring the shutdown of their red hill water source, and that is because the board says they have data showing that when the navy has shut down that well in the past, that the water direction then flows to this shaft so that's why they had to shut that down out of an abundance of caution, so now we're talking about a lot of people's water supply, affected. that area serves about 450,000 people in urban honolulu so a lot of work right now being done to see what exactly causes this contamination. they are actually distributioning bottled water. some people need to have temporary housing and so this is causing quite a lot of concern, especially for the families with navy or army housing there with -- as we can tell the navy and the local water board trying to figure out how to fix this. fred? >> wow, big complications, big potential headaches and potentially very dangerous for a lot of people depending on their health status. natasha chen, thanks so much. >> thanks. coming up, president biden is set to speak with russian president vladimir putin on tuesday amid fears the creme lip is on the verge of invading ukraine. is a diplomatic solution possible? we'll discuss next. ♪i'd let you had i known it, why don't you say so?♪ ♪didn't even notice,♪ ♪no punches left to roll with♪ ♪you got to keep me focused♪ going to tell you about exciting medicare advantage plans that can provide broad coverage, and still may save you money on monthly premiums and prescription drugs. with original medicare, you're covered for hospital stays and doctor office visits. but you have to meet a deductible for each, and then you're still responsible for 20% of the cost. next, let's look at a medicare supplement plan. as you can see, they cover the same things as original medicare, and they also cover your medicare deductibles and co-insurance. but, they often have higher monthly premiums and no prescription drug coverage. now, let's take a look at humana's medicare advantage plans. with a humana medicare advantage plan, hospital stays, doctor office visits and your original medicare deductibles are covered. and of course, most humana medicare advantage plans include prescription drug coverage. in fact, in 2020 humana medicare advantage prescription drug plan members saved an estimated $8,400 on average on their prescription costs. most humana medicare advantage plans include a silversneakers fitness program at no extra cost. dental, vision and hearing coverage is included with most humana medicare advantage plans and, you get telehealth coverage with a $0 copay. you get all this for as low as a $0 monthly plan premium in many areas. and your doctor and hospital may already be a part of humana's large network. if you want the facts, call right now for the free decision guide from humana. there is no obligation, so call the number on your screen right now to see if your doctor is in our network, to find out if you can save on your prescriptions, and to get our free decision guide. humana, a more human way to healthcare. wow... that's so nice! the gift of ancestry®... is a walk through your history. do you remember who this is? 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>> well, i'll tell you what. they say, fred, that they know a lot already about the troop movements on the ukraine border. the administration has even gone as far as to release part of an intelligence report that really looks like a powerpoint that contains five pictures of where the troops are located along with a big map, so they have a pretty good idea of what is going on, but the question, of course, fred is what does it all mean and whether vladimir putin in fact has essentially decided that he's going to launch an invasion sometime early next year. another invasion of ukraine. we do know that vladimir putin is very concerned about the possibility of ukraine joining nato. this is a process that's already in the works. putin does not like it a bit. he also sees ukraine as part of russia so there's that. what it does seem clear though talking to administration officials here and what they have said on the involved that if putin goes forward with an invasion and he's not sure that it is, what will follow is a series of very tough financial or economic sanctions to make putin pay. fred, back to you >> some tense moments ahead of that call. thank you so much. joe johns at the white house. new intelligence suggests russia could become a military offensive in ukraine in a matter of months and the findings also indicate that the russia could amass up to 125,000 troops along the border. general mark hertling joins us now, former commanding army general and it's been a long time. glad you have to back. biden and putin will meet virtually tuesday in this call. how likely is it that a diplomatic solution is possible? >> yeah. that's certainly what the president is pushing for towards, friday rekha, and it's important to do that. he knows what russia has done in the past. he realizes that this is another threat by mr. putin against nato and european country, and he wants to stop it before it starts, but i think what's also interesting is while the president is meeting with mr. putin on tuesday, he has already sent secretary blink erng secretary us ain, and, remember, he also sent cia director burns to moscow. they were all doing preluds to then gagement to tell the russians we know what you're doing. knock it off. it's only going to cause major problems not only for you but for your kleptocracy, if you will, as the sanctions get tougher. >> how important was it to do that because that doesn't always come with an upcoming call or a sitting president reaching out to leader, you know, like putin to -- to send those lieutenants, those other, you know, secretaries ahead of the call to kind of lay the groundwork? how potentially effective will that have been. >> it's critically important, fred, and we haven't seen that -- that kind of diplomacy over the last couple of years where we have seen multiple members of a cabinet go to a foreign country and really lay out the dangers of the actions of the foe that we're facing, but one more thing i'll add to all of that. not only has the united states been doing it, but mr. blinken was also at the nato ministerial last week. not a whole lost information has come out of that ministerial just yet, but one of the topics of discussion was really about coordinating and cooperating on the potential for more damaging sanctions among the european nations and coordination with the united states, so i think this is the kind of diplomacy that we've been missing for a while coming together not only sending the cabinet members but also getting alliances to come together and thwart the kind of governments that are violating the values of a -- of a democratic regime and also violating the sovereignty of this nation of ukraine. >> and you feel this way because, you know, we've seen previously that leaving putin's aggression unchallenged, you know, enables more dangerous behavior. i mean what, ultimately are all the options that the united states has with russia? >> yeah. i certainly believe leaving it unchecked as we have done for too long will create more. there's an old saying in russia when i was dealing with the russians, i was told this by one of their diplomats. mr. putin will continue to push the bayonet in as long as he feels soft tissue. as soon as he hits steel he'll withdraw that bayonet, and that was an analogy to what he's doing right now. he's pushing not only the united states but western european countries. he's trying to disrupt nato. that's his strategic aim, and he's also trying to say ukraine belongs to me even though he promised and his government promised many years ago that they would remain a sovereignty and complete nations. yeah, he has some options. these 175,000 soldiers along the border with incredibly new equipment, new tanks that he has coming is the quality that he has and the capability that russia potentially has to interfere with ukraine. truthfully i've been betting on ukraine for this. i've been betting on them since the 20914 invasions. they have stood up to mr. putin and have asked for help not only from the united states but from other european allies. they are starting to get it, and i've got to tell you they are already preparing for anything that might happen along the spectrum of attacks that russia could potentially execute in ukraine, but that's the capabilities. i'm not sure that we know what mr. putin's intent is but i think it needs to be stopped. >> sounds like you're feeling particularly confident is that because that biden has non-consante contact with ukrainian officials. >> having served in the military and worked with ukrainian allies as far back as 2013 i know their capable. i know what they have learn in terms of fighting russia, so it's a combination of a push by the u.s. and the european nation in putting diplomacy fir and holding russia to which they have constantly violated by understanding that -- they have a very unified and military government that is standing by hind think -- i'm sorry, a civilian population standing behind their government, and i think any kind of russian incursion into their territory would give them a run for its money. when they talk about the 175,000 russians surrounding ukraine on the border, ukraine has 250,000 soldiers with arms so they can defend themselves. if mr. putin does this, conducts any kind of action, you're going see a blowback which will push him further into the realm offage international pariah that other people will take accountability for. >> isolation. lieutenant general mark hertling, thank you so much. >> thanks, fred. still ahead, the u.s. is averaging 100,000 cases of covid a day for the first time in months, and with the holiday season under way could, this be the start of another big surge of cases? 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>> i want to hope and believe that it will work but we've seen as the vaccines have become available people aren't making that decision and i think we have to shift about the individual and the general population because that's how vaccines work and how public health works, really on a population basis. there's a lot of talk about the severity of omicron. is it going to be less? maybe less in the individual, but with increased transmissibility and increased cases, for the entire population the severity of omicron will be higher so we have to stop thinking about vaccines for the individual and really think about how they protect everybody around us, and, fred, we should be thinking about masks the exact same way. i have both my doses, i'm boosted, but i am still wearing a mask in any indoor public space not just to protect myself but understanding that i am high risk for exposure. i'm high risk for a breakthrough because of what i do for work and i have to protect everybody around me. that's the real way we need to be thinking about this. >> and even though this new variant omicron is still new to a lot of us, do you think that is going to be the more we know about it, the more that experts such as yourself are talking about it, that that is going tonight encouragement, the impetus for people to get vaccinated? >> i hope so. i hope that people see this and say, you know, this is my chance. this is my opportunities, and that kind of is the good news. the good news as dr. fauci has said is that when you have a high level of antibodies, it's very likely that this is going to protect you against omicron just as it did against delta and did against alpha so if you're not vaccinated go and get your vaccine now. it means that within a couple of weeks you'll have high circulating antibody levels and you'll be highly protected and if you had protection before and you're relying on that immunity, it's not robust enough. get that vaccine and start that process and get protected now before the surge really hits. >> i hear you loud and clear. do not let the guard down as >> doctor, thank you so much. good to see you. all right. after the break, democratic congresswoman ilhan omar speaks exclusively to cnn. she's responding to the series of anti-muslim attacks from her republican colleague lauren boebert. her remarks straight ahead. ♪ there are beautiful ideas that remain in the dark. but with our new multi-cloud experience, you have the flexibility you need to unveil them to the world. ♪ sales are down from last quarter, but we're hoping things will pick up by q3. yeah... uhhh... doug? 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>> mccarthy is a liar and a coward. he doesn't have the ability to condemn the kind of bigoted islamophobia and anti-muslim rhetoric that is being traffic by a member of his conference. >> why doesn't he have the opportunity do this? >> because this is who they are, and we have to be able to stand up to them and we have to push them to reckon with the fact that their party right now is normalizing anti-muslim bigotry. >> we should point out that there are some members of the republican house caucus, nancy mace, tom reid, adam kinzinger and fred upton have kwon developed the remarks, but that's four out of hundreds. >> and they are being attacked. >> they are being attacked. >> for? >> for condemning it which tells you that the conference condoness this and that's why it's dangerous. >> let's talk further about all this. melanie sew anona is a capitol hill reporter and a political reporter from politico joins us as well. thanks for being here, ladies. you heard congresswoman omar saying this is who they are. are the voices of fringe voices' influence in the gop >> this is certainly a participant that we've been seeing in recent weeks and this year as a whole, which is that there are certain members who keep on having controversial comments or decisions, and then it consumes the party. and mccarthy -- leader mccarthy tends to take the approach where he is silent, he tries to deal with it behind closed doors saying you need to apologize or issue a statement. we saw it previously with paul gosar who ended up being kicked off his committee and censored by house democrats. when this happens it's essentially a huge headache, and they are becoming increasingly the faces where they are pushing the buttons and attracting controversy. and that is not the position that most of the republican conference wants to be in, is responding to comments like you saw lauren boebert making previously. so, it's certainly kind of a conundrum and a problem for the party that we're probably going to keep seeing going forward especially as i look to retake the majority in the next midterm elections. >> melanie, if the house minority leader, mccarthy, is not going to, you know, condemn it more vociferously, how about the house speaker pelosi, what are her options moving forward, possibly, to punish congresswoman boebert? >> number one, they could censure lauren boebert just like they did with paul gosar. they could also strip her of her committee assignments which was done to marjorie taylor greene. and speaker pelosi could put a resolution on the floor that condemned islamaphobia. there was some internal debate about this last week, and some democrats are reluctant to have to constantly police the bad behavior of their gop colleagues. they really feel like the onus should be on house minority leader kevin mccarthy. but clearly that's not going to happen. so, momentum has grown in the democratic ranks to take matters into their own hands and hold lauren boebert accountable in some manner. >> and then, olivia, minority leader mccarthy says, oh, wait, he is still capable of leading. listen. >> the clashes that you've seen within your caucus earlier this week, if you're speaker, would that make it difficult for you to govern? >> um, no. we're going to be quite fine. >> what does that mean? >> look, i think mccarthy is basically saying you're always going to have certain members who are pushing the button. but we saw this year when marjorie taylor greene was kicked off of her committee, there's this new sort of precedent where that controversy and democrats taking decisions against her, there were about a dozen republicans who voted for her also to be stripped of her committee assignments. she fundraised an incredible amount of money. so this politics of controversy is becoming more and more attractive to members, and it's constantly about pushing the line but not crossing the line and not entirely finding out where that is. and that is going to become a problem if both parties and especially if republicans and they decide to basically be making comments like you saw with lauren boebert or making decisions like you saw with paul gosar. and it's a pattern that mccarthy will have to deal with. and the question is whether he decides to deal with it differently if he ends up becoming speaker. >> and then, meanwhile, melanie, back in the senate, the clock is ticking for the democrats to pass the president's build back better legislation before christmas. that was their kind of self-imposed design. is it going to happen? 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