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A political hot spot. Also, Cripmson Tide takes te win. Well show you the game winning highlights. Were so grateful to have you this sunday, december 5th. Great to see you, christi. You as well, boris. We do need to talk about whats happening with the Michigan School shooting. We begin this morning with the latest developments in the Oxford High School shootings. Authorities identified a Person Of Interest who helped the parents of the shooter evade police for hours. Now that person could face charges. The couple is held at the Oakland County jail on a combined Million Dollar bond after pleading not guilty to four counts of involuntary manslaughter. They son ethan is being held on suspicion of wounding seven people and killing classmates. Those classmates, 16yearold tate myre, 17yearold madisyn baldwin, 14yearold hana saint julianne fla and 17yearold justin schilling. In a letter to the Oxford Community School District, superintendent tim throne says hes requested an independent Third Party Investigation into last tuesdays deadly shooting. Authorities say theyre still combing through they say a mountain of evidence in the case that has an entire family sitting behind bars this morning. The parents of the teenager accused of this weeks Deadly School shooting is waking up this morning in the same county jail where their teenagered son is being held on murdering four classmates. A judge ordered jennifer and James Crumbley held on 500,000 bond following a manhunt that ended at a detroit county warehouse. They were taken into custody after a Tip Led Police to the building hours after the couple were charged of involuntary manslaughter. Each entered not guilty pleas in connection with tuesdays deadly shooting rampage. The county Prosecutor Says the crumbleys gave their troubled teenagered son access to a Deadly Weapon and did nothing to warn about the danger he pose zbld this is a very serious, horrible, terrible murder and shooting and it has affected the entire community. These two individuals could have stopped it, and they had every reason to know if he was dangerous and they gave him a weapon. They didnt secure it and they allowed him free access to it. Prosecutor Karen Mcdonald pushed hard for the half million in bond saying the couple was trying to flee. Attorneys representing the couple said the couple had the gun locked up and the son didnt have access to it. They said the couple intended to turn themselves in but were unable to do so before Police Arrested them. Last night and throughout the day we were in contact with our clients. They were scared. They were terrified. They were not at home. They were figuring what to do, getting finances in order. The cher riff of Oakland County doesnt seem to buy it. We were out looking for them, working with our partners and they were taken into custody before that question was asked or answered. Were they actually going to do it . I dont know. Given they were hiding in a warehouse in detroit, it certainly raises my eyebrows. The countrys son ethan was arraigned, charged with terrorism, murder and other counts. Authorities say theres clear evidence the shooting was premeditated and the 15yearold, quote, was looking forward to it. Lets get to cnn Law Enforcement reporter mark morales live in pontiac, michigan. Get us up to speed on the independent investigation the School District is calling for. Reporter well, the school is asking for this investigation on the heels of a lot of parents reaching out asking questions. These questions are coming from Press Conferences being held by the Prosecutors Office and the Sheriffs Office where theyve been detailing the chain of events. And part of that always points to the interaction that the school shooter, Ethan Crumbley, had with school officials, Guidance Counselors. On Tuesday Morning he had a conversation with the Guidance Counselor after he found a picture they had drawn. The picture depicted Somebody Being shot full of wuhl let wounds. He in his defense, according to this letter, says the drawing was because he was trying to create a video game. We wanted a career in video game design. Eventually the parents came and they were able to talk to the parents about this, but it was the Guidance Counselors decision, they made a call according to this letter, using their years of experience that he wasnt a threat and wasnt a danger. Now, this has been a subject of a lot of discussions publicly by the local prosecutor, Karen Mcdonald. Shes come out and said the parents could have asked if the parents had a weapon inside of his backpack. Law enforcement strongly believes at that point that the gun was in his backpack. The letter also goes on to say part of the reason theyre calling for this independent investigation is they want to make sure that is exactly what happened, that the weapon was in his backpack. All right, mark march ral less, thanks for breaking it down for us. Appreciate it. With us this morning to discuss the shooting and the investigation, retired Los Angeles Police sergeant cheryl dorsey, also the author of the confidence chronicles. Cheryl, thank you for sharing part of your weekend with us. The oxford School District is requesting this independent investigation into the shooting that mark was just outlining. What are the benefits of reviewing the district Safety Procedures and practices carried out by the teachers and staff, and what might indicate to you that someone at the school could be held accountable . Well, certainly one of the benefits would be to make sure that nothing like this ever happens again. I think theres plenty of liability to go around. Certainly that School Counselor could have done more, should have done more. Whenever has a parent been the deciding factor as to whether or not their student remains on campus when they have been caught doing such egregious and outrageous activity. Listen, this wasnt the first time this young man has dealt with administrators at that school im certain. There were plenty of red flags. Now they have some explaining to do. Four young people lost their lives because they neglected to err on the side of caution. Cheryl, right now Ethan Crumbley faces 24 charges. You mentioned some of the Warning Signs prior to the shooting, one Teacher Reporting that ethan had been searching on ammo on his phone the day before the shooting, also a disturbing drawing showing a person being shot with the words, quote, blood everywhere. That was reported by a separate teacher on the same day of the shooting. At what point should Law Enforcement have been notified that the student was having these issues . They should have been notified immediately. Again, you err on the side of caution. What responsible parent would encourage and foster an environment where your child lies, lol in a text from mom, just dont get cause. Who does this . This is all very problematic. So during the parents ar rain Defense Attorneys defied the assertion that their son had unrestricted access to the weapon used. I want you to listen to what they said. That gun was actually locked. So when the prosecution is stating that this child had free access to a gun, that is just absolutely not true, and we need an opportunity to fight this case in court and not the court of public opinion. So, if the investigation finds that the gun had, in fact, been locked away, does that diminish the parents responsibility . Listen, it changes nothing in my mind. Okay, so the gun was locked. Obviously this shooter had access to the lock. He had access to the key. He was able to not only posspossess the gun, but obviously unlock it, remove it from whatever caselocking mechanism had been on it, able to overcome all of that. This kid had access to it because, after all, they purchased it for him. None of this explains anything for me. The family says they were trying to figure out what to do. No doubt. How to flee, how to evade authorities. Theyre saying all the things they need to say public think. This is not going to fly. Cheryl, quickly i want to ask you about this third party, the person that apparently helped them get into the building where they were ultimately found by police. They might face charges of aiding and abetting or obstructing justice. What kind of evidence do you need to build a case like that . I think weve already heard theres Video Evidence of this person helping them secure their car, park, get into the building, get access to this room they were found in. So that will be an easy fix, easy find, and that person should be charged. Weve got to leave the conversation there, sergeant cheryl dorsey, thank you for the time. We appreciate it. Thank you. Taking action to stop the spread of covid19. In less than 24 hours travelers visiting the u. S. From abroad will face new Testing Requirements. The question is will it be enough . A doctor is weighing in on what hes already seen in a state going through a resurgence of the virus. Stacey abrams once again setting her sights on the Governors Mansion. The road to reelection may be rocky for the current governor. Adjusts to keep you both effortlessly comfortable. So, you can really promise better sleep . Yes youll know exactly how well you slept, night after night. We take care of the science. All you have to do is sleep. 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Rob davidson is with us. Hes a West Michigan Emergency Room Physician and the Executive Director of the committee to protect health care. Dr. Davidson, were so glad to have you with us yet again. I know michigan has consistently had, it seems, an overload of cases. The icu beds up to 40. I know its punishing enough to be in icu. When were talking about the variants and what people are dealing with, are you optimistic those people there can recover . Im wondering about the severity of the symptoms they have. I know theyre serious because theyre in icu, but compared to what youve seen in the past. I think its incredibly important. A lot of people against mack seens, against masking say only a few number are dying. People on a Ventilator Up to weeks or a month or more, after that going to rehab hospitals for weeks and months on end learning lau to eat again, to walk again, with tubes through their trachea, in their neck. A lot of them will survive. Most of them will survive. But survival isnt just popping out of bed and going home. I had a patient the other day, i called his spouse, in a church praying for his recovery. She was in tears begging to get him home by christmas. The reality of that in just three weeks is pretty low. This person is going to have a very long recovery. Even when we see numbers going down in other states, michigan keeps surging. To what do you contribute or think contributes to whats happening in michigan, what we have seen so consistently there . Well, all i can say is whats happening in our system is 98 i think 98 of the people in the icu with covid are unvaccinated. More than 85, 88 of people in the hospital are unvaccinated. The people in the er who have been vaccinated, theyre folks who should have had their boosters by now. The breakthroughs probably arent breakthroughs anymore because were recommending boosters after six months. Its in pockets of the state with low vaccination rates. Were going to see this in other states. Its a matter of time until we have people vaccinated to prevent or burn it out in several areas. Every few weeks or months we hear of a any variant. We know thats going to continue to pro live rate. With that said, do you think theres stronger evidence that the Covid Vaccine will become an annual shot, like the floout shot . I think the reality is until enough people get vaccinated that we can actually put an end to this, and even if its endemic, make it a very rare occurrence, i think well see periodic need for booster shots. We dont know if a threedose vaccination series is enough to give us enough memory in our Immune System to fight this for a long time. We have to watch it play out. Unfortunately science happens in the background among ak dechlices in journals. Right now its happening out in the open and i think its concerning to see hoye it happens. Dr. Rob davidson, we appreciate the work you do, the people youre taking care of. Thank you for taking time to take to us. 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Reporter christi, boris, with his book about to take out, mark meadows will have to take a break from his book tour and sit down with the january 6th House Select Committee for a deposition. As you said, he was a noshow for his first one. Now, while he plans to cooperate with the committee, how much he plans to cooperate is still up in the air. His decision to start cooperating could give investigators a valuable window into how former President Donald Trump and his allies tried to enlist Government Officials to pursue baseless election conspiracy theories. New reporting from cnn this week revealed in the weeks after the 2020 election meadows actually reached out to some of the countrys Top National Security officials to connect them with trump allies who were pushing unfounded claims of foreign election intervention and voter fraud. Sources tell cnn that meadows actually passed along some of the materials himself including youtube videos that alleged widespread evidence of voter fraud. While he plans to cooperate, meadows said in an interview this week he still plans to honor former president trumps claims of Executive Privilege. His new book could complicate these claims of Executive Privilege since he talks about with some of what happened during the insurrection in his book. Take a listen to what congresswoman zoe lofgren said last night about meadows possibly claiming Executive Privilege. I havent read the book. Its not out yet. You cant talk about things that you claim are privileged in another form and refuse to talk about it with the congress. Well see whether hes waived any claims to privilege. Also, the holder of the privilege is the president of the united states, not the former president. Reporter bottom line here, christi and boris, we could learn a lot this week during meadows deposition. It could be either he cooperates or it could become a showdown between him and the committee because he doesnt offer enough information. Daniella diaz, thank you. In georgia, Stacey Abrams is once again running for governor, setting herself up for a potential second showdown with republican brian kemp. This is shaping up to be quite a race especially after 2020 and false claims of fraud from the former president leading to a standoff with brian kemp. Kemp held his ground against donald trump, but now he may lose the Governors Mansion to a primary challenger. Greg bluestein is joining us this morning. If this does end up being a 2018 rematch given how georgia voted in 2018, the strained position that Governor Kemp is in with former president trump, the fact that republicans are scared of Stacey Abrams, organizing against an abrams run since february, you reported. Does all this make Stacey Abrams the favorite in this race . Thats a good question. I dont know if hes the favorite, but brian kemp hasnt really stopped running against her really since his victory in 2018. He launched his campaign for reelection a few days afterwards. Thats how serious republicans have always taken Stacey Abrams. Now they have hundreds of thousands of new voters, many younger and more diverse. They have continued infighting among republicans. The democrats have decisively flibd the atlanta suburbs. Beyond that they have a proof point. They now can say they have won georgia statewide elections for the first time in decades in the january 2021 runoffs. Greg, abrams defended herself on cnn this week from criticism that she never officially conceded the 2018 election. I want you to listen to what she said. He won under the rules of the game at the time, but the game was rigged against the voters of georgia, not against me, not against him. This isnt about politicians. This is about people and their right to be heard. Abrams making the distinction that she thought the election was rigged against georgia voters and not against herself. The state does have some of the most restrictive voting laws in the country. So how do you think the issue of Voting Rights is going to play out in the next election . Interestingly she didnt focus on Voting Rights with her launch. Thats what shes known as nationally, a Voting Rights advocate. This will work in her favor because republicans will have a recurring them, compared her 2018 nonconcession speech to donald trump. But the major difference is, as you heard, she acknowledged that brian kemp was the governor, unlike the former president who did not acknowledge that joe biden had won and tried actively to reverse his victory in that election. Yeah, and he also claimed its rigged against him. Shes arguing the spirit of the election, voters were disenf disenfranchised. Abrams also welcomed President Biden to campaign in georgia with her, though his Approval Ratings have recently dipped. Despite some of the issues hurting his popularity, do you think the president can help abrams win georgia . This is a new strategy from democrats in georgia who used to run away from national figures. Back when obama would come to town, you wouldnt see democrats near him. This will be a basemotivating election where democrats will try their best to motivate, Energize Voters of color, other voters who might not typically vote midterms in the base that came out in 2020. Its soft of all hands on deck. I expect republicans to do the same thing. We can be sure that donald trump will come to georgia a few more times next year. I want to ask you about that. The question of who he might endorse is a big one on the republican side. Is it possible that brian kemp gets primaried by former senator david purdue and purdue winds up with trumps endorsement . Its very possible. Friends and allies of the former senator say hes leaning towards running right now. Thats the big question now in georgia politics. This would be an Epic Primary Battle between two very formidable republican figures. Donald trump essentially promised david purdue his endorsement, even coming down to georgia in a September Rally and urging publicly that David Purdue Run against brian kemp. It could merriake for a very impactful election, one certainly with fireworks. Greg bluestein, thank you very much for the time. Thank you. Next, prosecuting the prosecutor. The District Attorney accused of mishandling the case of Ahmaud Arbery, of his killers is now facing prison herself. Dad, why didnt you answer your phone . Your mother loved this park. She did. Introducing the biggest of Small Business bookkeeping. Having someone else do your books for you. Im linda, your quickbooks live bookkeeper. Lets do this linda sounds good a live Expert Bookkeeper who understands your business. 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The Georgia Attorney general contends johnsons delay nearly denied justice. More than a year after the death, she was indicted for violating her Oath Of Office and obstructing police. Arberys family applauded the move in the Virtual Press conference. She didnt pull the trigger, but she is just as much to hold accountable as the three guys who actually did this. Reporter johnson turned herself in at the Glyn County Jail but was free in less than an hour and didnt have to pay any bond. According to the indictment, johnson directed police not to arrest Travis Mcmichael that day even after she shot at an unarmed arbery three times pointblank with a shotgun, hitting him twice. After accusing herself, she recommended another attorney george barnhill, never disclosing she already talked to him about police. Barnhill sent a letter to place advising the shooting was justified. Saying we do not see grounds for an arrest of any of the three parties. That could have been the end of the case if not were one thing. The public release more than two months later of the Cell Phone Video showing arberys pursuit and murder outraging a nation. Gregory and Travis Mcmichael were arrested within days. Cnn made numerous attempts to contact johnson or her legal representation for comment without response. Johnson repeatedly denied any wrongdoing and defended her actions including a virtual debate when she was running for reelection. Im sorry from a very beginning a lie was told about ow my office handled the case. That case is a terrible community for the community and for the family. Im sorry about how things happened. Im sorry that i lie got started and i could not turn it back. Reporter voters didnt buy it. After ten years in office, johnson lost the election. Now this once top prosecutor prepares for a prosecution like none shes ever faced before, her own. No court date has been set for jackie johnson. The next legal step would be an arraignment. If she were to be found guilty of the most serious charge, which is violating her Oath Of Office, thats a penalty. She could get one to five years in prison. Boris and christi. Marty, thank you so much. A group claiming to be from the patriot front, a group widely considered to be white nationalists marched across the National Mall and past the Lincoln Memorial yesterday. They were seen wearing the white mask, matching arm patches. Some members were carrying a plaque tick shield. The u. S. Park police first told Cnn The March was allowed and then clarified the group did not have a permit. Authorities say the gathering was peaceful and no arrests were reported. Join cnns elle reeve for a new documentary, white power on trial, return to charlottesville. The special begins to at 9 00 p. M. So this is not your average plane, because its powered by fuel made from sugar and corn. 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Theres simply no battery technology, even theoretical technology that has enough Energy Density that you can put enough batteries on the airplane to get an airplane this big with this many people flying this far. What works in a lot of other Transportation Industries wont work for aviation. Reporter this test touched down in washington with a message. Airlines want tax credits to lower the cost and the faa to approve the fuel more widely. The manufacturer says this fuel is so molecularly similar to jet fuel, its a direct replace it. The infrastructures, the planes, the engines, everything is ready to go right now. This is the normal way we do things. Reporter United Airlines says now the ball is in the court of the government to raise the limit of Sustainable Aviation fuel allowed aboard a plane like this. By the way, this is the plane used, normal boeing 737 max 8. Its about to go out and fly passengers again with normal jet fuel on board. 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You know how the old saying goes, if you want to be the champ, you have to beat the champ. This is the firgs time that nick saban and the tide were underdogs. Back then they beat georgia in the game they were underdogs. They did it again. Quarterback bryce young threw for an sec championship game record, 421 yards, three touchdowns, locking up the heisman trophy. Georgias defense hadnt given up more than 30 points in an entire month. Alabama put up 41, winning 4124. Nick saban saying the team using all that Underdog Talk that the media was talking about, they used it as motivation. I think we have a tremendous amount of georgia, their team and what they accomplished, but you guys gave us a lot of really positive rat poison. The rat poison you usually give us is usually fatal, but the rat poison that you put out there this week was yummy. Both alabama and georgia likely in the playoff, as will be cincinnati. The bearcats beating 21st ranked houston to finish 130 and win the american Conference Title. Cincinnati will likely be the first ever team outside the power five conference to make it to the playoffs. The big 12 title game, fifth ranked Oklahoma State trying to keep their playoff hopes alive taking on baylor. The cowboys had first and goal in two to win the game. It would go to fourth down. On fourth down we had a lot of drama. Desmond jackson going to be racing told the goal like. Josie maran mcvay does just enough and jackson comes up short. Football a game of inches and about six inches decided the title. Baylor wins 2116, their first title since 2014. Michigan looking to punch their first ticket to the Playoff Taking on iowa. The team wearing a patch with tate myres 42. He was a junior, a Football Star Player at Oxford High School. He reportedly ran toward the gunman when the shooting started on monday. He died trying to stop him. In a touching moment, michigan had tates family there as honorary captains for the game. The wolverines then went out and put up 42 points, tates number, to win their first Conference Title since 2004. The significance of that was not lost on coach jim harbaugh. We wanted to honor tate myre many this game, dedicated the game to him, for his courage and what he did in the shootings at oxford. Hes a hero. We got our 42nd point up there. My patch fell off. I think god was with us. I tell you what, guys, pretty special that michigan scored 42 points on the day and the night they were honoring tate myre. Andy scholes, that was a great moment to share with us. Thank you, sir. Thanks, andy. Lets Take A Deep Breath and keep going boris. Good morning to all of you. Welcome to your new day. Im christi paul. Im boris sanchez. New details on how o

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