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"new day" continues right now. good morning to viewers here in the united states and around the world. it is friday, december 3rd. i'm brianna keilar with john berman. alec baldwin says he has nothing to hide. we're hearing from the actor in a raw and emotional first interview since the deadly shooting on the set of his film "rust." >> the tragedy took the life of cinematographer halyna hutchins. baldwin tells abc news at first he didn't even realize she had been shot. he recalled the moment when the gun went off. >> she was someone who was loved by everyone who worked with and liked by everyone who worked with and admire d. sorry. but admired by everyone who worked with her. the trigger wasn't pulled. i didn't pull the trigger. >> you never pulled the trigger? >> no, no, no, no. i would never point a gun at someone and pull the trigger ever. that was the training i had. >> you just pulled -- >> the hammer as far back as i could without cooking the -- >> you're holding on to the hammer -- >> i'm showing, do you see that, is that good? yeah, that's good. i let go of the hammer and bang, the gun go. everyone is horrified, they're shocked. it is loud. they don't have their earplugs in. the gun was supposed to be empty. i was told i was handed an empty gun. cosmetic rounds, nothing with a charge at all, she goes down. i thought to myself, did she faint? the notion that there was a live round in that gun did not dawn on me until probably 45 minutes to an hour later. when she finally left, i don't know how long it was she was there, 30 minutes, 40 minutes, it seemed like a very long time. but they kept saying, she's stable. like nobody -- just as you disbelieve there was a live round in the gun, you disbelieve this was going to be a fatal accident. >> you didn't know how serious it was. >> at the end of my interview with the sheriff's department, they said we regret to tell you she died. that's when i went in the parking lot and called my wife. >> baldwin made it very clear he believes he did nothing wrong. he told george stephanopoulos he's desperate to find out how a live round found its way on to the set and into that gun. >> i don't want to sound like i'm a victim. i mean, again, we have two clear victims here. >> is in the worst thing that's ever happened to you? >> yes. yeah. yeah. because i think back and i think of what could i have done? >> do you feel guilt? >> no, no. i feel that there is -- i feel that someone is responsible for what happened and i can't say who that is, but i know it's not me. >> you're not worried about being charged? >> i don't -- i've been told by people who are in the know in terms of even inside the state it is highly unlikely i would be charged with anything criminally. >> two lawsuits have been filed against alec baldwin by members of the crew. here's how baldwin addressed that. >> the two civil suits that were filed, which i find odd, because those two people are lunging toward making sure their suits are filed before the husband files his suit? they couldn't wait until matthew on behalf of his son filed his suit first? i found that to be unsettling. >> joining me now is attorney gloria allred, representing the "rust" script supervisor mamie mitchell. gloria, alec baldwin referred to your client there, suggested she was lunging to file a suit before the husband of halyna hutchins could get a chance to. what is your response to that? >> first of all, patently ridiculous. another deflection of instead of taking responsibility himself attacking other people. but, john, there is no need for the husband of halyna hutchins to even file a lawsuit because alec baldwin and the producers and the insurers could all settle with him without his having to file a lawsuit. and so that is a ridiculous point, and what he's trying to do is point to everybody else and blame them instead of taking responsibility himself. what he said in that interview was -- >> we'll get to his claims of no responsibility in a second. i want to cover your client here for a moment. would your client ever agree not to accept money or a settlement until the family of halyna hutchins receives some compensation? >> you know, look, there is no point in pitting victims against each other. of course mamie would want the child of halyna, who she loved, who she admired, who was her new friend and a respected colleague, we want that family to be compensated. but everybody who can prove they are a victim and who has been damaged should be compensated. it is just as simple as that. >> but there are different levels of being victims here, correct, between your client and the family of halyna hutchins? >> of course there are. and according to the damage and according to what happened to them, you know, they'll be compensated. but that's not the point. the point is mr. baldwin is not taking responsibility. he said, in this interview, what can i do? i will tell you, alec baldwin, what you could have done. you could have checked that gun before it was fired from your hand. you could have, if you didn't want to, check the barrel of the gun, the chambers of the gun, you could have said to the assistant director, where is the armorer? bring her in. have her demonstrate to me that this gun is empty, that there is no live bullet in it. he didn't do that. he's now out there saying, who -- i didn't have any responsibility. well, who is the mystery man here who had the gun in his hand, who cooked the hammer of the gun, the bullet discharged from the gun, and it hit halyna and joel. who is the mystery man who did that? the mystery man is named alec baldwin. >> no question that it was a gun in his hand that went off and it killed halyna hutchins. no question about that. do you have knowledge that all actors always check the gun before using it in a scene? >> it isn't a matter of what all actors do. it is a matter of what industrywide management safety protocols that are accepted in -- and are supposed to be followed in a motion picture industry and on television, what they are required to do. now, mr. baldwin says, you know, in his world, it was not within the realm of possibility that there would be a live bullet in that gun. well, every gun is supposed to be treated according to safety protocols. assume it is loaded. and that's why the safety protocols are there. check the gun or have someone demonstrate it. george clooney was right when he said he checks the gun, he makes sure that it is safe if he has a gun in his hand on a movie set. >> when george -- >> and, of course, alec baldwin in the interview just blew that off, well, goody for him. that's what alec baldwin should have done or had the armorer do. >> when george stephanopoulos asked him, do you feel any guilt for this, alec baldwin said no, no guilt. if i had felt responsible at all, alec baldwin says he would have killed himself. >> well, he said, you know, he said he -- someone is responsible. well, all i can say to alec baldwin is look in the mirror and you will find out who is at least one of the people who is responsible. so, you know, i feel for him. it is a terrible thing to kill anyone. whether you did it intentionally or not. but step up and take responsibility. and that's what you need to do. and it is the only thing that you should do. and, you know, it matters what happened to halyna, it matters what happen ed, you know, to th director and it matters what happened to mamie mitchell. i mean, mamie mitchell ran out and made that 911 call, okay. she cared about helping someone else. what did alec baldwin do? why is he not taking responsibility now? does he think we're all foolish that we think there is someone else? the whole idea that let's find out who put the bullet, the live bullet in the gun, of course, that's a very important question. but it is not the only question. we have to come back to alec baldwin and ask why didn't he follow the safety protocols? he has -- he's married to a woman, they have six children. would he want someone else who had a gun that was aiming it at the mother of his children, wouldn't he want that person to at least check the gun or make it -- make sure it is safe instead of saying, someone else should have done that? >> gloria allred, i appreciate you being with us. thank you very much for your time. >> thank you. we have brand-new cnn reporting on how donald trump reacted to his chief of staff mark meadows spilling the beans on his secret positive covid test. here's a hint, not well. and stacey abrams gearing up for a second big political fight against georgia governor brian kemp. what's different this time? 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>> i think that joe biden, john osoff and raphael warnock have been delivering for georgia. we're seeing an infusion of capital into our state that will help infrastructure issues, tackling child poverty. we need to have a partner in the gov governor's mansion who believes in making sure the state and the resources are reaching all georgians. rather than picking people that agree with me, want to serve every georgian. and make certain we have one georgia, and, yes, i look forward to having anyone who is willing to invest in the state come down and talk about what the great future we can have. >> so you're looking forward to campaigning with biden? >> i'm looking forward to campaigning with the president, with our senators, proof that we have the opportunity in georgia to elect strong democrats up and down the ticket. in 2020 and 2021 we showed america what georgia is capable of. and we know that together we are seeing real action happening at the federal level, coming to georgia. but the problem is at the state level we are still number 50 in terms of healthcare coverage. we live in the state that has a high covid rate, but we do not have the leadership in the governor's office to actually address the challenges that we face and that's why i'm running. >> i know that you've been watching these other governors races that we have seen here recently, biden was a drag. we heard that from terry mcauliffe, he was a drag on the race there. is there anything you would like to see the president do or focus on that he hasn't been? >> i've been focused for the last three years on how we serve georgians, how we make certain we have access to vaccines, how we settle medical debts until we can get the state to expand medicaid. i am focused right now at the national level on making certain that we have voting rights legislation that actually protects the rights of voters in the state of georgia. unfortunately under this governor we have seen a retrenchment on voter suppression and that's action we need to take. i'm deeply concerned about the anti-choice law that governor kemp signed in 2019, that drove away jobs. and is hurting the state of georgia. we need leadership that is looking forward, we need action at the federal level to continue to support our people, but my focus is on making sure that in the state of georgia you're doing everything we can to help our community succeed. >> do you want biden to do more on voting rights? >> i am bullish that the legislation that is sitting in the senate is going to move. we have watched change happen in the last ten months. where we now have all 50 u.s. democratic senators signing up for the freedom to vote act and we have a republican who is joined on the voting advancement act. i think the house is committed to voting rights. we know in january a continuation of the insurrection, this voter suppression activity across the country based on the big lie will rev up once again and we need to see washington, d.c. understand that they are called to protect democracy. and protecting democracy needs passing the freedom to vote act and passing the john louis advancement act. >> you were so close to winning in 2018 and even though you didn't, it was a huge wake-up call for that narrow margin in georgia, huge wake-up call for people watching your race. do you concede you lost the 2018 race? >> i on november 16th, 2018, acknowledged at the top of my speech that brian kemp is the governor of georgia. i even wished him well at the end of the speech. and in the middle i talked about the fact that we had a system that he managed, that he manipulated, that hurt georgia voters. and the responsibility of leaders is to challenge systems that are not serving the people. my responsibility was not to try and make myself governor, i have been very well aware for three years i am not the governor of georgia. but i am a citizen of georgia and the citizen of this country, and my responsibility is to challenge a system that would rob a single voice from being able to be heard if they are eligible. and that's the work that we have done, that's the work i will continue to do. and i wonder why others aren't willing to join me in this effort because this isn't about partisanship. this is about patriotism. we are a democracy. a democratic republic that says that every voice should be heard to set the future. and i want to know why more people aren't standing up and saying, every single person should have access if they're eligible, especially in the state like georgia that has a terrible history of voter suppression. >> you were clear what you were seeing in that speech, that you acknowledge that he was the victor, even as you said you wanted to be clear it wasn't a concession speech. do you see his victory as legitimate? >> this is a relitigation of a conversation that is, i think it can be fun to talk about, but here's where i am. he won under the rules of the game at the time. but the game was rigged against the voters of georgia. not against me, not against him. this isn't about politicians. this is about people and their right to be heard. and the work that i've done for the last three years, in fact, work i've been doing since i was 17 has focused on how do we expand access to the right to vote so that every single eligible american can be heard and can help set the terms of our future. and so, yes, he became the governor. and we have watched him fail for three years. and i'm running for governor now because leadership has to not only take credit, it has to take responsibility, and be held accountable and i want to be the person who helps lead the state forward. >> i do think it is essential that we talk about it because you're up against him again and you're also not only up against kemp, but there is this new georgia voting law which, of course, you're very much opposed to, that is going to make it voting access for people who would support you, it will make it more difficult, it will make it more confusing, the outcome of the election will be more in the hands of republicans, do you believe that this campaign will be a fair fight? >> i intend to work hard to ensure that every single voter has every opportunity to cast their ballot, regardless of who they intend to vote for. that's not the -- the election process is not about me. it is about making sure that everyone eligible, democrats, republicans, independents, that if you want to vote in georgia and you're eligible to vote, you can vote. but my other responsibility is to ensure that who we elect is someone who is going to protect the right to vote and between myself and brian kemp, i'm the only candidate who is intentional about protecting and expanding access to the right to vote. in this campaign, as in every campaign, we always have to guard against those who are willing to game the system, rather than put their ideas forward and use their ideas as their catalyst for success. i'm willing to put my ideas up against brian kemp every single day of the week. and i believe that georgians once again will see that i am a leader who will not only serve them, but who will care for all of us, not just those who agree with me. >> political head winds, i think, you know, just looking at what happened in 2018, what we're expecting in 2022, it does seem that 2022 is going to be a tougher race, just when it comes to where the politics are, but then as i mentioned, there is also this voting law that has gone into effect in georgia. how are you going to win? what makes you think that you can overcome these additional obstacles to close that gap? >> well, three things, one, hundreds of thousands of new voters who join the roles since 2018, in fact, 1.2 million new voters have joined since 2018. and of that, we know that the modeling shows that there is a 17-point advantage for democrats among those new voters. number two, we have had proof of concept. we saw the election of joe biden in 2020 and the election of jon ossoff and raphael warnock in 2021. we have voters activated and energized and ready to turn out. number three, most importantly, we have a failed leader in the governor's mansion. that means that people not only have a reason to show up, they got a reason to show out. because georgia is facing terrible times. we have got some successes for some, but not for everyone. there is real pain in this state. there is real need. half a million georgians do not have access to health insurance because of the callousness of one man. and if we can solve those problems, if we can show there is a brighter future ahead, i believe that we can win, and that's why i'm in this race because i believe we can win it. >> we did just learn that 52% of absentee ballot applications were rejected under this new georgia law. we're talking about more than half of them because voters missed a deadline. do you think that hurts republicans? what do you think? >> i think it hurts georgia. and that's, again, the point. voter suppression may target certain communities that they find inconvenient, mainly young people, people of color, the disabled, the poor. but it hurts everyone. when you break democracy for some, you break it for all. and these laws are demonstrating already that voters need clarity, but they also need ease of access. there should be nothing difficult about making your voice heard in a democracy, if you are legally eligible to participate. we have watched brian kemp once again rig his -- sorry, pin his hopes for success on making it harder for voters to make their voices heard. >> you heard donald trump not exactly backing up kemp. he recently said that you would be better for the job. is that drama going to help you? is that going to hurt the gop primary process and help your chances? >> well, i'm going to be fighting for georgia. that's my job. >> all right. stacey abrams, thank you so much. it is a pleasure having you this morning. >> thank you, i encourage people to go to staceyabrams.com to learn more about my campaign. >> all right. we'll be tracking your race. thanks again. >> thank you. preposterous and disgusting, those words from dr. anthony fauci about remarks from a fox news host. and fresh scrutiny on former white house physician sean conley after the timeline of trump's covid diagnosis came to light. we have brand-new cnn reporting ahead. this is your home. this is your family room slash gym. the guest bedroom slash music studio. the daybed slash dog bed. the living room slash yoga shanti slash regional office slash classroom. and this is the basement slash panic room. maybe what your family needs is a vacation home slash vacation home. find yours on the vrbo app. ♪ - san francisco can have criminal justice reform and public safety. but district attorney chesa boudin is failing on both. - the safety of san francisco is dependent upon chesa being recalled as soon as possible. - i didn't support the newsom recall but this is different. - chesa takes a very radical perspective and approach to criminal justice reform, which is having a negative impact on communities of color. - i never in a million years thought that my son, let alone any six-year-old, would be gunned down in the streets of san francisco and not get any justice. - chesa's failure has resulted in increase in crime against asian americans. - the da's office is in complete turmoil at this point. - for chesa boudin to intervene in so many cases is both bad management and dangerous for the city of san francisco. - we are for criminal justice reform. chesa's not it. recall chesa boudin now. we're learning some brand-new details about former president trump's reaction to mark meadows' stunning disclosure that trump tested positive for coronavirus three days before the first presidential debate. joining us now with her new reporting is cnn chief political analyst gloria borger. what have you learned here? >> well, not surprisingly the president was furious about mark meadows' book and according to a source familiar with the president's thinking that he told a bunch of people how angry he was. now, one source said, look, the president was never that close to mark meadows anyway, but other sources have told cnn, yeah, you know, they were pretty close, meadows got on the trump 2024 cnn -- i mean trump 2024 presidential train pretty early, so the president kind of liked him. but now he's in the doghouse, which is why you see mark meadows coming out there and saying, oh, what i wrote, that's fake news, because donald trump said it was fake news, remarkable. >> you know, sean conley, the white house physician, is coming under scrutiny, understandable scrutiny because of what mark meadows wrote in his book, there was a positive covid test that the world never knew about, that people inside the white house who came close to the president never knew about, that, you know, gold star families never knew about. >> yeah. it is a dereliction of duty if you ask me. we all understand that the president's doctor works for the president, but he also works for the people and if the president had a positive test and was going to rallies, according to mark meadows, conley said you have to get him off the plane. but he didn't get off the plane. he continued to go to these rallies, meadows says, okay, got another test that was negative, or another reading that was negative, so they just went on. and then, you know, meadows said to people close to the president, in the inner circle, treat him as if he's positive for covid. what does that mean? who is the inner circle? what about the people he was meeting with? and was he positive for covid? and what is the doctor doing about this? what about contact tracing? has the white house heard about that? >> the former communications director says meadows never said that to senior advisers. if he said it to somebody, it wasn't to her. he said that he said it, but she said she never heard anything like that, and the people around her never heard anything like that. but i also think it is interesting, you know, sean conley was there whitewashing what was going on in that we see that appearance there at walter reed. mark meadows, even at the time, he was caught on the pool camera telling reporters what was kind of really going on, that this was actually, you know, this is pretty bad. so you kind of have this track record with mark meadows of him being pretty honest about stuff not being great. >> right. so you had -- i mean, i remember that day. you had sean conley out there saying everything's great with the president. he's doing really well. kind of doing the bob routine and then you had mark meadows going over and talking it to a gaggle of reporters off the record he said at that time while it was being recorded so it had to be on the record saying, you know, the president is really sick. the public has a right to know the president's physical condition. and that should come from his doctor, and not from his chief of staff. >> yes, the doctor has an obligation to his patient, the president, but he's also a naval officer with an obligation to his country. >> and to his boss. who is the commander in chief. and i think that complicates things just a little bit. >> it does. gloria, thank you so much. all right, we do have breaking news. minutes ago the labor department released a november jobs report, man, is this one confusing? christine romans here with the numbers. >> it is a riddle to match the dynamism we're seeing in american job market now. you see 210,000 jobs added back. that's less than half of what economists were expecting and half of what we saw last month. but the jobless rate fell to 4. 2%. this is a low number. this is a good number. that's the best we have seen of the pandemic since before. you could almost argue that looks like a full employment number, but why didn't you add more jobs? when you look at the jobs, september and october are both revised higher, remember. but then this disappointment in november, and i look through these numbers, john and i see a lot of customer-facing jobs had very little job growth if at all. so customer-facing jobs, that could be it is not the job problem, it is the worker problem. workers aren't going back to those customer-facing jobs. we also know there is something like 400,000 new businesses started this year. those are new businesses people who left their employer and started working for themselves. so that's a big number to watch here as well. the jobless rate, john, 4.2%, so this is last month, now you're looking at 4.2% from the jobless rate in november. that is a really good number. we got to tease a part a lot of this. you have economists arguing about why the numbers look like this, why they weren't bigger than this. again, this is pret the new variant and post the summer of the delta variant. a lot going on here. >> what are the futures doing right now? >> futures right now are a little bit higher here. so -- >> they don't know what to do. they're confused by this. you were just saying to me that the labor participation rate, a lot more people actually got in to the workforce. >> almost 600,000 people who were not looking for a job and were not counted as unemployed, those people are now looking. they're now back in the labor market, counted in the labor market. that's a lot of people, almost 600,000. so that suggests that there is more willingness to go back to work, but go back to what worked. >> terrific news. if more people start looking for work, especially if the unemployment rate is at 4.2%. but it doesn't match the not phenomenal job growth. >> what is phenomenal in this number is another wage growth number of 4.8%. 4.8% is wage growth we really haven't seen in a generation, right? you can see that the people who are going back to work, they're being lured back by higher wages. we can also see in numbers, other data from the labor department, the job hoppers, quitters getting new jobs, they're seeing wage increases well over 5%. so, again, i said it was dynamic, there is so much going on in the jobs market right now. people are thinking differently about their job and what they want out of this ireir job and numbers are a riddle. >> one thing we talked about a lot is that the pandemic broke our measurements. made it very hard for us to measure anything because it changed some of the fundamental assumptions that people have about the economy. one of the things that has come from that, we had to revise past numbers. so, you know, you see 210,000 jobs added, what is the likelihood there could be a huge revision here. >> we know the last four or five months there have been upside revisions to every one of those months. we thought this summer there was a lull in hiring in the summer, there wasn't a lull in hiring in the summer. the summer, june, july, very strong months, august, september, were better than expected. october was revised higher as well. so you can see more than, john, 5.8 -- you're talking about 6 million jobs created so far this year are added back. that is an unbelievable number. in normal times, that would be record-breaking. >> these aren't normal times. >> these are not normal times. >> we're trying to learn more about the new numbers we're seeing, where the jobs are added, much lower than anticipated, the unemployment rate, though, also much lower than anticipated. we're going to have much more on this, including reaction from the white house. i bet you can guess how they're going to spin it next. back now to our breaking news, u.s. employers adding 210,000 jobs in november. the unemployment rate falling to 4.2%. joining us now is white house correspondent john harwood. this is welcome news for the biden administration, how are they responding? >> we're going to hear from the president later and we'll hear from the administration economists beginning at 9:30. i think there is -- there are disappointments and there are positive things in this report. of course, the positive things are the decline in the unemployment rate. and the increase in the labor participation rate, all that is good. that's from the household survey. there is a separate survey, of course, of businesses which shows only 210,000 jobs created, but we have to look at that little exskeptically because we saw it in this report, positive revisions up and we have seen that in previous reports. so the pandemic has created some real problems engaging at the particular time in a month how many jobs were added, so we're going to have to watch and see how that goes. but i think overall, the administration, despite the headline disappointment, you know, people talked about well, half a million new jobs like we had in october, 210,000 now, provisionally that's what it is. but they're going to focus on the fall and unemployment rate, 4.2% and the rise in labor participation. >> we talked to romans a while ago. more of the glass half full interpretation of that. the glass half empty view, companies are slowing down adding new jobs, even before the omicron variant became a thing. these measurements were pre-omicron. if you're, you know, predisposed to be concerned here, you would look and say, wait a second, omicron could make this even worse. >> well, no question about it. and certainly we saw that number seemed to get worse when the dealt delta variant was surging. we had a period of time in october when delta was receding and things felt brighter. in the latter part of november, and this survey takes place in the middle of the month, we saw an uptick in cases. and we have been dealing with that. so the pandemic -- the case rate is very bumpy from month to month. we have seen this pandemic is very unpredictable. we don't know what omicron is going to do. but until we're past this pandemic, there is going to be a lot of churn and up and down and uncertainty in the economy that is going to make any sort of prediction or singular assessment, you know. is this a good economy or a bad economy? it is both in different ways and in different places in the country. >> john, great to have you here. breaking this down for us. thank you, john harwood. coming up, a key vote for the fate of the biden economic agenda. cnn's rare and fascinating interview with senator kyrsten sinema next. i don't just play someone brainy on tv - i'm an actual neuroscientist. and i love the science behind neuriva plus. unlike ordinary memory supplements, neuriva plus fuels six key indicators of brain performance. more brain performance? yes, please! neuriva. think bigger. new projects means new project managers. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. when you sponsor a job, you immediately get your shortlist of quality candidates, whose resumes on indeed match your job criteria. visit indeed.com/hire and get started today. president biden needs her vote to get his sweeping social safety net bill passed. but kyrsten sinema is still a holdout. in a sit-down interview with cnn, we get insight into where sinema stands on the biden agenda and why she still won't commit to it. cnn's lauren fox with us now. she's a mystery to so many people, but we did learn something here. >> that's right. she is a mystery to people who she doesn't feel like she has to negotiate directly with. with the president, with the majority leader, she's pretty direct about what her concerns are, but she's not a senator who does hallway interviews, she's not a senator who is accessible in the same way that senator joe manchin, another moderate holdout is, and still isn't quite ready to vote yes on the president's build back better plan. >> with president joe biden's social safety net bill in jeopardy, democratic senator kyrsten sinema won't commit to vote for the nearly $2 trillion bill. schumer said he wants to vote on build back better before christmas break. are you prepared to vote yes when that comes to the floor? >> i personally believe that the best way to create legislation is to be thoughtful, and careful, so we're crafting legislation that truly represents the interests they want to achieve and that creates a benefit and helps people all across arizona and the country. so that's what i'm working on right now. >> reporter: it doesn't sound like you're a yes yet on the version that just passed the house of representatives. what changes do you want to make? >> well, folks know i don't negotiate in the press. i won't do that with you. and the reason is pretty simple. i think that we have seen some of the work i did on the bipartisan infrastructure bill, which is now law, that when you negotiate directly in good faith with your colleagues, and don't negotiate publicly, you're actually much more likely to find that agreement. >> reporter: sinema's hedging comes as senator joe manchin tells his democratic colleagues his skeptical the bill will pass by the end of the year. >> inflation is a big concern. >> yeah. >> reporter: manchin does not want paid family leave included in the bill. something sinema indicates she supports. >> i have long said i support paid family leave because it allows both moms and dads throughout arizona and the country to have the opportunity to take care of a new baby or to take care of a loved one who is sick and not lose their jobs. >> reporter: the arizona senator shares manchin's concerns about inflation. >> when i'm home in arizona, i hear number one about the price of gas and number two about the price of food. people are very concerned about the amount they're spending just to survive every day. and inflation is real. so i want to make sure that if we are crafting legislation, we're doing it in a lean and efficient way that is fiscally responsible and doesn't impact things like inflation or make our businesses less competitive. >> reporter: sinema who negotiated with biden and republicans extensively to pass the bipartisan infrastructure bill, suggests democratic leaders aren't being realistic as to what is achievable. why do you think it is that your leadership sometimes overpromises? do you think that's a problem for voters and for the democratic party? >> i would never promise something to the american people that i can't deliver. but i also believe that when elected leaders on either side of the political aisle promise things that cannot be delivered, it actually exacerbates the political problems we face in our country. and people become more angry, or even apathetic and want to turn away from the political process. >> reporter: sinema has been a wild card in an evenly split senate, that has no room for any democrats to break from the party line. that leverage has left many senators on her side of the aisle questioning her negotiating style. some of your colleagues, some of them, progressives, think that you're an enigma, they're not sure where you stand on any one issue while you're in the middle of a negotiation. do you think that's a fair criticism of you? >> i think i'm very direct. and i'm very up front when i talk to folks about what i believe in, what i can support and what i can't support. so i think there is some people who just don't like what they're hearing. and maybe they use other terms to describe it. but folks in arizona know that i've always been a straight shooter and always will be. >> reporter: when you first got into politics, you were more progressive. what changed? >> well, one of the things that changed is i learned a lot. i was serving over the years in the state legislature and now in the united states congress and i had an opportunity to learn from so many people across my district, and then later now the whole state of arizona. >> reporter: in october, sinema was teaching a class at arizona state university. when she was confronted by a group of immigration activists in a public restroom about her criticisms of the build back better plan. >> when individuals choos choos gauge in an illegal activity and violate the privacy rights of the students i'm working with at arizona state university, that's not appropriate. my students are working hard to earn their degrees so they can serve their community in arizona. they did not sign up to be harassed in a restroom or have their privacy violated on the internet. and that's what i think is inappropriate. so i voiced that concern and appropriate authorities are taking action. >> reporter: and key takeaway from this interview is that sinema is not in a hurry. she's not in a hurry necessarily to pass the build back better plan, she's not somebody who is going to be bullied or coerced by leadership to get to yes until she is ready. so we're going to have to wait and see whether she and manchin will be ready before christmas. >> she doesn't seem flustered by the conversation around her. >> she doesn't care what people think. >> great interview. we never see that. it was great too. lauren fox, thank you. >> thank you. alec baldwin breaks his silence. why he says he doesn't feel responsible for the death of his cinematographer. hould evolve wih you and part of that evolutionh means choosing the right medicare plan for you. humana can help. with original medicare you are covered for hospital stays and doctor office visits but you'll have to pay a deductible for each. a medicare supplement plan can cover your deductibles and coinsurance but you may pay higher premiums and still not get prescription drug coverage. but with an all-in-one humana medicare advantage plan you could get all that coverage plus part d prescription drug benefits. you get all this coverage for as low as a zero-dollar monthly plan premium in many areas. humana has a large network of doctors and hospitals. and telehealth coverage with a zero-dollar copay. so call or go online today and get your free decision guide. discover how an all-in-one humana medicare advantage plan could save you money. humana, a more human way to healthcare. my retirement plan with voya keeps me moving forward. they guide me with achievable steps that give me confidence. this is my granddaughter...she's cute like her grandpa. voya doesn't just help me get to retirement... ...they're with me all the way through it. voya. be confident to and through retirement. emergency planning for kids. we can't predict when an emergency will happen. so that's why it's important to make a plan with your parents. here are a few tips to stay safe. know how to get in touch with your family. write down phone numbers for your parents, siblings and neighbors. pick a place to meet your family if you are not together and can't go home. remind your parents to pack an emergency supply kit. making a plan might feel like homework, but it will help you and your family stay safe during an emergency. 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