such a thing as a gun violence archive certainly says a lot. mostly, obscene. but as tempting as it always is to simply be numb to it all, try to think of all the kids who don't have that option tonight as they try to cope with what they have gone through. there isn't enough numbness in the world to blur the memories that they now have or blunt the grieving they have yet to go through. or erase even a second of what even the lucky ones endured today. reporting from the scene for us tonight, stephanie parkinson from local cnn affiliate weyi. stephanie, what's the latest? >> reporter: >> we know right now that 11 people were shot today and of those, um, three of them passed away. 16-year-old male, a 14-year-old female, and 17-year-old femalefemale all killed inside oxford high school. we don't have identities yet. what we dough no about when this all happened is a very quick response. we are talking within five minutes of that initial 9-1-1 call that they had that gunman in custody with police deputies here. sheriff's deputies in oakland county. there were more than 100, though, 9-1-1 calls that came into the police. and this 15-year-old student. we don't know too much about the student but we know he was a student at oxford high school and that he was using a semiautomatic handgun today when all of this happened. now, i did ask the oakland county undersheriff if he legally had that handgun or if it was maybe registered to a family member. he wouldn't answer those questions yet tonight but said obviously that is part of their investigation. he did tell us there was a search warrant executed on his home. we don't know, yet, what that maybe revealed to them but we are waiting for update in the next couple hours. meanwhile, from those in this community, oxford, a very small, close-knit community, they are worried. they're wondering and they are worried that there were warning signs that this could have happened in their school. now, the undersheriff, though, with oakland county tells me don't believe everything you hear or see/read on social media because there is they are still active investigating this. >> and what do with know about the -- those who were injured? >> right now, we do noknow two them are in surgery or at least were as of about an hour ago. and there are six others who are in stable condition tonight. we don't really have much more detail than that at this time. >> and is the suspect cooperating with police did they say? >> not really. he won't speak to them right now. so as far as the investigation goes, he is not. however, he didn't put up much a of a fight when they don't fronted him inside the school when he had the weapon. so it was relatively easy it sounds like to take him in custody earlier today. we don't know if he had more ammunition, though, at that time. they are not sure if that prevented anything more from happening inside the school or if he was kind of done with what he set out to do or not. we are still wait more of that kind of information to come in. but he is not talking and investigators spoke with his parents today and they said they are hiring an attorney and they don't want him to talk, either. obviously, being a minor, they need their permission, the parents' permission to even speak with him. so the undersheriff is hoping something might change in the coming hours or days. >> i want to go back to something you said at the beginning that from the first 9-1-1 call to the -- him being taken into custody. you said that was a five-minute timeframe? >> that was. and part of the reason for that is there is a school resource officer in this school in oxford and so that resource officer was on site i believe at the time. that resource officer was part of the arrest there but there was another officer there. so that does mean that there was still a quick response time to get more officers there to back that school resource officer up. >> wow, fascinating. stephanie parkinson, appreciate the reporting. thanks so much. shortly before air time, i spoke with one of the students who was in his classroom when shots rang out. 17-year-old senior named aden page. aden, thank you so much for being with us. i understand you were in your classroom right before class began when you heard something. what happened? >> um, we heard two gunshots and after that -- um -- my teacher ran to the room, locked it. we barricaded. and then, we covered the windows and hid. >> did -- did you know they were gunshots right away? >> um, i just heard two bangs, and then i saw my teacher run to the room, lock down. i was like, okay, this is a shooter. >> so, your teacher reacted very quickly. um, what happened? i understand there was another teacher in the room, as well. >> yes. another teacher entered just to grab some hand sanitizer quickly. and then, the shots came off and then she ran in. >> and i understand she called to her classroom because she couldn't get back to her classroom. what happened with that? >> um, basically, she was like can anybody -- does anybody have a freshman in my class? and then, a student did. and then, she used her phone to call them. >> so, she got the -- the phone number of a freshman in her class from a student in your class? >> yeah. >> and then, she was, what, trying to give instructions to her class about what to do? >> um, the class basically went into lockdown already. um, there was a student injured and she was kind of instructing them and supporting them as well. >> so, a student had been -- had -- had been shot in that classroom? >> yes, he was shot in the leg. >> wow. >> and how long were you in lockdown for? did you hear anything while you were in lockdown? >> um, there was general announcements being made throughout. and we were locked down for about an hour. >> so, what -- the -- the two shots that you heard or what you believe were shots -- is that the only sound of gunfire that you heard? >> um, there may have been other gunfire. though, those were the most memorable to me. >> and looking at a picture that you took of what looks like a bullet hole with a lot of chairs piled up. what is that image of? >> um, we made this barricade and there was a bullet hole that shot through our door. >> so, the shooter was close enough to actually shoot into your classroom, through -- through the door? >> yes. >> wow. you know, when you say you went into lockdown, what actually did you do? i mean, obviously, you are in a classroom and i know you have had training on -- on this. do you try to hide in different places? do you try to -- what's the instruction? >> basically, we locked the door. we have the jammer called a night lock. we barricade it as best as we can. and then, we try to hide. >> and i understand students -- some students were trying to arm themselves with whatever they could find. >> uh-huh. yeah. we -- we grabbed calculators. we grabbed scissors and just in case if the shooter got in and we had to attack him. >> wow. i -- i can't imagine being in that situation for, i think you said it was like an hour or so, standing there with a calculator thinking you might try to use that as a weapon or scissors or a book. how were the other students reacting? >> um, some were crying. some were trying to support others. others were trying to come up with some ideas just in case. >> and i know you have had training on this. but obviously, when it actually happens, it's -- you know, there's nothing that can really prepare you for it. >> uh-huh. >> what -- what was it like for you? >> it was insane. um, the very first thing in my head was this is actually happening? i'm going to text my family, say i love them just in case if i were to die. and then, after everything kind of calmed down for a second, i was able to, like, get my breath and kind of rationalize things. >> hmm. and -- and looking on it now, i mean, it must seem -- what does it seem like now? does it seem just as insane? >> yeah, it's definitely going to be weird coming back, especially with knowing that people have been injured and that there are a few students who have died as well. >> aden, i'm so sorry for what you and the other students went through. and i -- i'm glad you are with your family and i appreciate taking the time to talk to us. >> thank you. >> senior in high school dealing with this. expectative now from cnn law enforcement analyst andrew mccabe. also, former assistant dhs secretary, juliette kayyem. andrew, you and i sadly have talked about these school shootings many times, too many times before. the fbi has looked closely, has done studies of all the school shootings and a lot has been learned about that. their quick reaction time, it seems like, today, may have been a result of what was learned from columbine and others. when you hear the account from that student aden, what stands out to you? >> well, as the -- as the father of a 17-year-old senior in high school, i mean, it's -- it's absolutely chilling. and i -- it -- you know, it -- it -- it -- um, it forces me, as i hope it does every american, to ask the fundamental question of why are we putting our kids in the firing line when they go to school? why? what is it about our country that we are awash in guns and i say that as a gunowner, as someone who carried a gun for 21 years as a law enforcement officer. but the fact is that our situation in this country with firearms is out of control. and the perfect evidence of that is that our children are at risk when they go to school. it's just head spinning. really is. >> juliette, it's also -- i mean, obviously, look, we have known about schools having active-shooter training for -- for years now. i have gone to schools where it's done to see how -- how it's done up close. just the normalness of this is so extraordinary. that young man had had multiple trainings and they instantly knew what to do, and they took their positions and they grabbed calculators and scissors and whatever else they could with the knowledge that they might have to fight if the -- the shooter came in. >> with staplers, right? i mean, that -- that's where we are. we have created this narrative that somehow we're equipping ourselves to deal with these school shootings. so, we first tell kids, you know, run or hide or fight. in that order. well, they did everything right today and still three kids died. and then, we say well let's just train law enforcement and we'll have all these drills and make sure law enforcement can get there. well, last count, 25 agencies and 60 ambulances showed up at the school, and still three teenagers died. and then, we say, oh, let's put, um, armed guards in these high schools. well, this high school had one there and he probably did a lot of good in terms of stopping the violence. still, not enough. i mean, this is -- you know, what -- what -- let's -- you know, so i think we just realize now that -- that five minutes -- everything going right and we've -- in terms of a response and we still have three teenagers dead, five injured. um, and -- and one gun and one suspect and that's all it took. so, my frustration is -- is -- is we can't do anything more at this stage. >> andrew, again, i go back to that famous fbi report and i don't have it in front of me. i haven't read it in a couple months but as i remember, most deaths in all of these shootings take place within the first-several minutes. i mean, the killings take place immediately. that's why a quick reaction from police is so essential but as juliette said, i mean, five minutes from the time the 9-1-1 call goes into the to time of the apprehension, that's incredibly fast. and yet, all the lives have already been lost. >> every one of these incidents, anderson, we study and we learn and we get better, right? so, virginia tech years ago pushed the -- this issue of getting the first responders to actually enter the building with long guns to be able to fight back, that sort of thing. our folks in the fbi critical incident response group along with their colleagues at dhs were instrumental in developing the training that's now been pushed out hundreds of thousands of places across the country. the reactions of people, of victims are better. the response of law enforcement is better. but it is never going to be fast enough to prevent this from happening. and as long as guns are readily available to people, like, you know, children at home to using to kill themselves or others or -- or young, emotionally-challenged, young adults who go into high school and bring something like that into high school. you can't -- there's no way to stop that with training or prevention. it's just -- um, you're always behind the curve. >> juliette, the school superintendent said there are no metal detectors in the school. i mean, is there evidence that security measures, like metal detectors, deter shooters? >> they might. but a determined shooter would have -- would've been out in the playground or parking lot and then somehow gotten into -- into the building. so, a determined shooter is -- is not going to be stopped by this. our understanding, you know, right now or at least the questions that we have is why did he stop shooting? was it because the -- the resource officer, the police resource officer confronted him? was there something wrong with the gun? did he -- did he run out of bullets? that's going to be important in terms of -- of sort of, you know, what happen understand t happened in that moment. the other question i have is how does he get possession of this gun? the parents are likely keeping quiet, as well. was it a family gun? all of those are going to come to -- to bear. but once again, you know, yeah. so, you put up the metal detectors. so now, we have a parking lot. so then, you put up a wall around the parking lot and then, okay, well, a determined killer with a gun that can kill or harm eight or nine people in five minutes is not going to be diss dissuade by a metal detector so both. all of the above at this stage. >> juliette kayyem, andrew mccabe, appreciate it. thank you. up next, we have breaking news, some potential promising remarks by israel's health minister about how current covid vaccines may help protect against the -- the omicron variant. and just when you thought things couldn't get worse on capitol hill, republican congresswoman is now under attack just because she called out another congresswoman's bigotry. we are keeping 'em honest, ahead. instantly clear everyday congestion. and try vicks sinex children's saline. safe and gentle relief for children's noses. ♪ ♪ you are my fire ♪ ♪ the one desire ♪ ♪ you are, you are, ♪ ♪ don't wanna hear you say... ♪ ♪ ♪ i want it that way ♪ ♪ it wasn't me by shaggy ♪ you're never responsible for unauthorized purchases on your discover card. o man, that's a whole lot of wrinkly at least my shoes look good! looking good start with bounce wrinkleguard, the megasheet 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chief white house correspondent kaitlan collins joins us now be the latest. so, what about these new testing requirements? >> so, what this would essentially do and we should note, no final decisions have been made. but would shorten the time period in which you could be tested before you return or get on a flight coming to the united states regardless if you are u.s. citizen or someone just visiting the united states. right now for vaccinated travelers, you have to get a test about three days before your departure date. but apparently tonight, officials are deliberating basbased on our reporting shortening that timeframe, anderson, to one day. but the other thing they are considering that is especially noteworthy is having travelers even u.s. citizens who are vaccinated or permanent legal residents who are vaccinated potentially get tested again after they get back to the united states. several days after their flight because officials have said for a few weeks now that they believe that's kind of a lapse in the rules here. which is that you could certainly get tested before you get on your flight to the united states. but maybe, you develop symptoms once you're back. maybe, you start to test positive once you are beack in the united states. and then, of course, that causes issues. so these are things that are under consideration. they actually were deliberating about this tonight and haven't made any final decisions but there is a signal we could learn more about this as soon as tomorrow because the white house just announced that dr. fauci is going to be joining jen psaki at the press briefing tomorrow afternoon. >> do officials expect the definition of what it means to be fully vaccinated to change in the coming weeks? >> so far, no. they said right now that is not changing. that it is still fully vaccinated if you have got that mrna vaccine. the moderna, the pfizer. that it is fully vaccinated if you have gotten two shots. but of course, the question of whether or not that changes remains to be seen. because you ever you have seen the president saying that he did this week that if you got vaccinated before june 1, fully vaccinated, it is time for a booster shot. and you have seen other nations move to fully vaccinated means you have gotten three shots now. so, whether or not that changes remains to be seen. but for now, it is not changed, anderson. >> kaitlan collins, appreciate it. thanks. joining us now, chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta. and the dean of brown university school of public health, dr. ashish jha. what do you make of the news israeli health minister says that there are indications people received a vaccine booster are protected against omicron? >> yeah. i mean, that -- that sounds optimistic. you know, and that's -- that's potentially good news yeah we heard something similar from the south african minister spokesperson as well. saying you got 16 million roughly have bvaccinated but th majority of who they are seeing testing positive are the unvaccinated. so these are some early clues and they -- they have to see how this continues to -- if that data continues to hold up. one thing i think is interesting, anderson, if you look at the trajectory in south africa over the past few variants and sort of look what has happened. the original variant, and then beta, delta, you see sort of this interesting -- you know, these interesting peaks. i don't know if we have the graphic, we can put it up. but basically, you see a significant surge and then a period of quieting. and then, another significant surge. keep in mind, they didn't start vaccinating until february of this year and they still have pretty low vaccination rates. this graph is really important, anderson. it tells a story, first of all, that -- that infection-acquired immunity -- people who get immunity from having been previously infected -- doesn't seem to last very long. three to four months. again, you are look at largely unvaccinated community. but also, look at the far-right side of that. it's been a relatively quiet time in terms of covid in south africa. it's late spring. they don't have a -- um, you know, it's warmer weather. they are coming out of flu season. and now, omicron is -- is sort of -- omicron is sort of taking off. it's not competing against delta is my point. um, so we don't really know if this is going to be more transmissible than delta because it's not really been a footrace against delta in south africa. it's become dominant but there are nothing else really there at the time. >> dutch health officials said that today the omicron variant was detected in the netherlands a week before two flights arrived there from south africa. does that tell you anything about the -- the timeline of the variant and the surveillance that was happening in south africa? >> yeah. i think it tells me two things. i mean, one, anderson, it says there is good epidemiological reason to believe this variant probably started circulating in people late october. that, by the way, would be good news. it would mean that it's not some supertransmissible variant because it's been around for a little while. and the second is that it didn't originate in south africa and i think most of us have assumed it did not originate in south africa. i think south africa just has fabulous testing and surveillance and they are very open and transparent about it and that's why they identified it. in fact, could have started somewhere else and -- and spread to south africa. >> in a way, doctor, i mean, it's like, you know, in the spanish -- what we know as the spanish flu, it was reported in spain because newspapers there weren't censored during world war i, as many other countries censored their newspapers. and spain got blamed for the flu. >> absolutely. and that's why calling this a south african variant is just as wrong. it's that south africa has done a great job identifying it and thank goodness they have given an early warning to the rest of the world to get ready for this. they should really be applauded for this and we should not be -- we shouldn't be putting blame on anybody. it's not anybody's fault but particularly not singling out south africa in any negative way. >> dr. fauci's noted some patients tested positive from omicron variant, have mild symptoms, it's too early to tell what the severity of the illness will be. do you agree with that? >> yeah. i mean, it's -- we're watching the scientific process sort of unfold real-time here. so we are going to have a better idea, you know, within the next couple of weeks. maybe, even sooner than that in terms of figuring out the severity of things. you know, if you look at the data in -- in the prorcvince in johannesburg and dr. jha makes the excellent point no one is saying this originated there but since we know it's there, it's become the dominant strain there. take a look what's happened to hospitalizations over the last three weeks. um, they've been going up and as i mentioned, it's late spring. so this is not probably, you know, significant respiratory pathogen hospitalizations. these aren't particularly high numbers. they have been much higher at other times during the pandemic. but they have been going up. and i think that's something that people are -- are paying attention to on the ground. is this being driven by this new variant? or -- or something else? regardless, we'll have a better idea of how -- how -- what type of severe illness this causes over the next several days or -- or a week or so. >> dr. jha, kaitlan collins was just reporting one of the ideas the white house is looking at is shortening the window, instead of 72 hours before you fly to get a test to coming to the united states. maybe a day. but also, once you land in the u.s., you would have to get tested again at some point, i guess, in -- in a number of days. does -- unless someone's tested immediately at the airport by authorities, what infrastructure does -- i mean, do we have an infrastructure in this country that would actually follow travelers two or three days late s and make sure they got tested? who would do that? >> yeah, not really. trying to set up an infrastructure quickly would be hard. you could test people at the airport with rapid ant jent tests. >> they do that in israel or used to at least when i went. >> exactly. and that would work well. i think we should consider doing that. there are other mechanisms. but asking people to go and get self-tested two, three days later is going to be pretty tough to enforce the millions of people who fly into our country. >> sanjay, the cdc says they are testing one out of every seven samples taken from people diagnosed with covid in the u.s., to see what variant they have. is that good enough? i mean, is that -- it sounds like it's better than we have had in the past. or am i wrong? >> yeah, it's much better than it's been in the past. probably ten times better than it was this time last year. some 80,000 genomic sequences, versus closer to 8,000. keep in mind, though, we are only doing about a million and a half tests per day. that, also, is better. but i remember dr. jha's previous home institution harvard, road to recovery talked about the necessity for tens of millions of tests per day. so even on the front end just in terms of the number of tests that we are doing in the first place is still too low. so that -- you know, the surveillance is improved but of a still small denominator, overall. that may be part of the reason why we haven't found omicron yet. it's almost certainly here in the united states. and no one should be surprised when we report that the first case has been officially found but that -- that may be driving why it's taking so long. >> sanjay, dr. jha, thanks so much. appreciate it. reminder join us tomorrow night for a special "cnn town hall" on the new variant and what it means for all of us. next up for us tonight, 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for the city of san francisco. - we are for criminal justice reform. chesa's not it. recall chesa boudin now. on a night when kids have been shot to death in their school and people around the country are concerned about inflation and a new variant and a whole host of other rns, it seems particularly pathetic to continue dealing with attention see seeking antics in congress but they are in congress and they are raising money. talking of course about lauren boebert and marjorie taylor greene. they have no real accomplishments. they have done no real work in congress. they are -- understanding of how washington works. really, what would be called back-bench nobodies back in the day. yet, they have managed to somehow kow most their party, especially the leadership, into silence. for that, they have been praised by the former president, of course, and have managed to raise more campaign dollars than the average lawmakers. in greene's case, roughly six times the average. so for them, this is a payday made even fatter, no doubt, by the continuing coverage. but to the extent that it matters who speaks for one of the two major political parties in this country, they sort of can't be ignored. and once again tonight, it's people like congresswoman greene and boebert who were doing the talking, not their leadership. greene today attacking south carolina republican nancy mace just for calling out boebert's bigotry. quote, mace she tweeted, you can back up off of @lauren boebert or just go hang with your real gal pals, the jihad squad. you're out of your league. congresswoman mace tweeted back calling her bat-crap crazy. and later in the day, said this. >> she's crazy. she's insane. she's bad for the party and i'm not going to put up with it and i am not going to tolerate it. i am not going to be bullied. i am not a doormat. >> she is being attacked, remember, and she is a republican, for doing nothing more than seeing bigotry for what it is and speaking about it. congresswoman lauren boebert suggesting congresswoman ilhan omar might be a suicide bomber. and it certainly wasn't a one-and-done thing. last night, we played remarks she made this month in which she talked about the police officer running for the elevator she was in. well today, cnn's k-file uncovered this from september. >> one of my staffers, on his first day with me, got into an elevator in the capitol. and in the -- in the elevator, we are joined by ilhan omar. well, it was just us three in there. i looked over and i said, well, look at this. the jihad squad. [ cheers and applause ] >> so funny. so great. by the way, remember in the new version of that story, there was a police officer running for the elevator and she is just embellishing as she goes along. conservative icon barry goldwater once took criticism for saying extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. makes you wonder what he would have to say today. joining us now, cnn chief political correspondent, dana bash. and cnn senior political analyst, kirsten powers author of a wonderful new book, "saving grace, speak your truth, stay centered and learn to do exist with people who drive you nuts." it's particularly apt. so, dana, you have covered congress a long time. there have been plenty of controversial lawmakers over the years. does this feel like a whole other level to you? i mean, any pretense of, i mean, decency or honesty or actually even doing work for your constituents and for the country, it seems to have been abandoned by certain members who are just out to rake in more money and build a social-media profile by saying outrageous things. >> it's so true. every one of the members of -- of congress at this point could benefit from a copy of kirsten's book. but, you know, i think the answer to your question is that nancy mace. i mean, she is a republican freshman and she did, as you said, call out the islamophobia, the racism that lauren boebert is engaged in with regard to ilhan omar. and that is what raised the ire of marjorie taylor greene. and so, she's -- that's -- this is -- looks like a schoolyard fight. it looks like there is a lot of immature back and forth with emojis and, forgive me, but bat-shit crazy is the way she put the emojis on her twitter feed. but at its core, what nancy grace -- nancy grace -- nancy mace is trying to do is point out the things that you were saying, anderson. that, what marjorie taylor greene and lauren boebert are trying to do is raise money off of crazy remarks and do that much more than legislate. >> and there is cnn reporting, dana, tonight, late tonight, that kevin mccarthy summoned marjorie taylor greene and nancy mace for separate meetings. told them to, quote, stop it. which suggests he's perhaps drawing some sort of false equivalency between them. it almost seems like, oh, he is stepping in to stop two women from fighting each other, which is just seems kind of odd that he is doing this moral equivalence thing. does mccarthy have any real power at this point to control his conference? i mean, it seems like he is scared of marjorie taylor greene. >> well, he -- >> sorry, that was for dana. sorry. >> no, i -- i will just say he isn't condemning what lauren boebert said and, uh, not really what marjorie taylor greene has done in the past. you're right. i mean, it is kind of giving it an equivalency. and in some ways, the reason nancy mace is speaking out is -- and she's doing it in a very provocative way, clearly intentionally -- is because the leadership of her party in the house is not. >> yeah. kirsten, i was talking to james carville last night. he said democrats should just ignore boebert -- piece of this and that omar should, you know, not be talking about punishing congresswoman boebert but just saying what she is doing for people in her district. focusing on what people actually care about, and leaving the fringe to, you know, do the lunatic-fringe stuff. um, because it takes you off message of talking about what you are actually doing in congress for -- for your constituents. congresswoman omar said late tonight that she wants to see appropriate action taken against boebert. do you think carville's right? >> i don't -- yeah, i think that when somebody says the kinds of things that lauren boebert has said, i think that it has to be confronted. there's not a lot that can be done about it. but the idea that this is acceptable behavior. i mean, a responsible political party if the republican party was, in fact, a responsible political party would not tolerate this kind of behavior. frankly, i don't think it would be tolerated in most kindergartens in this country, let alone in the u.s. congress. so the -- the name calling, the -- um, you know, the horrible things that she has said about ilhan omar. i mean, she called her black hearted and evil and this demonization of the muslims in congress. the jihad squad. um, you know, what is it about republicans -- their obsession with these -- it -- it's -- it's ilhan omar and then, of course, rashida tlaib. you know, the two muslim women. there is only two muslim women in congress, and somehow they are just completely obsessed with them. and obsessed with -- with, you know -- with making islamophobic comments and i just don't see how you can ignore that. i don't see how you can say we have bigger things to worry about than that. um, i heard chris christie earlier with wolf saying that boebert was making a joke. i mean, that's not a joke. the fact that people laughed doesn't make it a joke. it's -- it's -- it's -- it's mockery. and it's not -- it -- it's really -- it's really dangerous, dangerous behavior. >> well, and, dana, i mean, she has turned it into, you know, i guess on whatever little lecture circuit she is on where she is talking to people and trying to, you know, get money from them. this is one of her laugh lines that she uses. and she has embellished this, clearly, over the weeks and months that she's been telling it. does -- do you think, dana, doing nothing, just shrugging it off, as just two lunatics or awful people being awful. you know, it's like they are auditioning for the real hous housewives but they are like so low rent, they wouldn't even be able to make it on that show. far more talented people on that program. does that normalize this sort of thing. >> your friend andy cohen -- >> he would never hire them. >> they are not clever enough to come up with a tag line. but -- >> yeah, it -- it shouldn't normalize them. it's not normal. there is nothing normal about this. and the idea that marjorie taylor greene has also said anti-semitic things, ignorant things about the holocaust, about nazis, and then a friend -- >> jewish space lasers. >> a friend of kevin mccarthy -- well, there's that. exactly. but then, the notion of -- of people wearing masks and getting vaccines is like -- is like nazi germany and wearing a star. i mean, that kind of thing. and then, a friend of kevin mccarthy got her into the holocaust museum to try to educate her. i mean, that is where -- she is a member of congress. you know, it's important that they be educated but that's kind of a basic bit of knowledge that somebody should have. >> yeah. >> so, it shouldn't be normalized. it isn't normal. and anybody who suggests that is -- is just -- it's completely inappropriate. >> yeah. kirsten powers, dana bash, thank you very much appreciate it. up next breaking news as a key figure in the former president's attempt to manipulate votes in georgia talks for hours to the january 6th select committee. also, some possible cooperation from another top figure in action expected to tomorrow to hold a third in contempt for refusing to cooperate. oh yeah, we gotta take off. you downloaded the td ameritrade mobile app? 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i mean, 6,000 documents sounds like a lot. >> it depends what they are. well, there -- there could be like a real meeting of the minds here because mark meadows, unlike steve bannon, probably didn't want to be indicted. i mean, bannon is like rejoicing in this. meadows is like a more normal person and doesn't want to be indicted. at the same time, the t meadows is probably saying, look, we could go to court with this guy and spends mont and maybe get something. here they can agree on production that's probably not everything the committee wants but better than nothing. >> it also could be meadows is trying to have it both ways. clearly the guy needs to make a living, i assume. i don't know how wealthy he is. >> right. >> but he wants to stay in trump's favor, i wants to stay in trump world because i guess that's where the lecture money is and he wants to stay in the former president's good graces. so i mean how will we know what level of cooperation there really is? >> we'll know because the committee will ask him questions next week and we'll see how many he answers and on what subjects, and the committee will examine all of these e-mails and perhaps other documents he produced and we'll see if they're grocery lists or actually stuff that relates to january 6th. so we will know, and the committee will not simply roll over on issues that they don't -- you know, he refused --. >> he doesn't want to talk about. >> he doesn't want to talk about. and we'll see if there's any give and take there. but, you know, i think the committee recognizes that, you know, any time they go to court, you are talking about months. and they don't have months. >> john, are there any circumstances under which you see mark meadows being a john dean level witness for this committee? >> i think he would have telegraphed that. i think there would be a sign. i don't think there's a break with trump at all. he is very smart, trained as an attorney, he knows his way around congress. i think he can get in the witness chair where there are no rules on how long he can answer or how he does answer, and he thinks he can probably filibuster a lot of it and work his way through, engaging with the committee where he gives them vague answers and they push but he doesn't have to give very much. i think he will claim privileges so they'll have some battles on that. i don't think this is a sign he is going to cooperate and tell all. >> jeff, just the federal appeals court hearing arguments about the january 6th documents and executive privilege, they didn't issue a ruling today. do you have any doubts or any sense of where it is going? >> they certainly seem inclined to want to force the national archives to turn over these documents. it is not a slam-dunk case however, and several of the judges pointed out that this is a novel situation. >> it is two presidents. >> two presidents, both citing executive privilege, one saying it is okay, one saying it is not to turn over the material. the argument that we only have one president at a time in this country, he is the custodian of the presidency, the interests of the president. that seemed to be a winning argument, and it is also worth pointing out these were three democratic appointees on a highly polarized court with very conservative republicans, very liberal democrats. these were three liberal democrats. i think that also is going to give you a hint of how the case is going to come out. >> even if they rule in december, wouldn't the president then try to take it to the supreme court? >> he would try. you know, you don't automatically get to go to the supreme court. the question of whether the court would give him a stay on this, that's become a huge issue in many different cases, on abortion, among other things, about when the supreme court steps in and just stops everything. if he loses in the d.c. circuit, you can be sure he will hope that the six conservatives on the supreme court will give him a stay. >> john, as far as you can tell, did former president trump's attorneys actually put forward any new arguments today? >> not really. they sort of rehashed what they had done at the lower court, and that's why they were getting some doubt. they were getting some very good questions from the judges who pressed not only trump's attorneys but the government as well. the house of representatives' lawyer got pushed pretty hard on how to resolve some of these issues when you have a former and an incumbent president. so to me i think it is a case that since trump and his m.o. is to stall, they'll try to get a full court enbanc hearing on this. that will take a majority of the sitting court but it will delay it longer. >> lastly, georgia state's raffensperger testifying today, about four hours long, is there anything new he would have to tell the court. he has written a book, he has spoken repeatedly about it since it happened. what new information would he have learned or said? >> i don't think he had a lot of new. i have read his book. he has a very detailed annotation of his conversation with trump, his reaction to it. so i don't think this is a lot of new information but rather a rehash. >> all right. john dean -- >> one more point. tomorrow is the supreme court argument on the big mississippi abortion case. huge, huge issue. >> jeff toobin. here is statement released tonight from a cnn spokesperson. quote, the new york attorney general's office released trans scripts and exhibits monday that shed new light on chris cuomo's involvement in his brother's defense. the documents, which we were not privy to before their public release, raised serious questions. the spokesperson continued, quote, when chris admitted he had offer advice to his brother's staff he broke our rules and we acknowledged that publicly, but we appreciated the position he was in and his need to put family first and his job second. however, these documents point to a greater level of involvement in his brother's efforts than we previously knew. the second hour of "360" is right after the break. so we can pass more savings to customers. and when i saw what they're charging for holiday-themed stock videos these days, well, you can see what i decided to do. and that means we can afford to offer three months of free service on any plan, including unlimited. so let's all just use our imaginations, 'kay? just imagine me someplace festive no, no, don't make it weird. good evening. we begin this hour with the fight against covid and potentially good news from israel. specifically, the israeli health minister who said indications show that people who received the vaccine booster are protected against the omicron variant. he didn't offer specifics beyond that. he added he will have more accurate and detailed information about the efficacy of the vaccine in coming days. in the u.s. the school board is expanding surveillance at four major airports to key

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