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>> when you saw this unfolding, did it look like the car was intentionally trying to hit people or did it look like the car was going really fast and just ended up hitting people but weren't necessary targeted? could you tell? >> i can't tell you for sure for sure. it was going pretty fast. i don't want to say intentional or not. it does seem like they did know what was happening. >> okay. thank you so much. again, for sharing your story. is there anything else you think is important to convey about what you experienced? >> just the people to keep watching the news and stay up to date with the police because they have the most recent information and i just am really hoping that everyone affected is doing okay and hanging in there. >> certainly our hearts and prayers are with them as more than 20 people injured from this horrific event with the car plowing through the holiday parade as you said there, people were enjoying themselves out for the first time since the pandemic and then this. it's horrific. thank you again, kayleigh. >> thank you. if you're just joining us, we're following breaking news out of wisconsin a vehicle plow into a crowd of people gathered to march and watch a holiday parade. minutes ago, we heard from city offi officials. >> tonight was a traumatic night for the city of waukesha. we don't have details out this point but we'll have a press conference at 7:30 and to speak now is the police chief dan thompson. >> at 4:39 p.m., i'll give a brief summery and do a formal briefing at 7:30 but at 4:39 p.m., a red suv drove into the christmas parade we were holding downto downtown. more than 20 individuals were inj injured. it's an on go investigation. victims were actually transported from the scene via ambulance. some transported some of the injured personnel and took them to the hospitals and some ver victims were transported by family and friends. very tragic and chaotic. there is no other threats. the scene is now safe. it's very tragic. my thoughts and prayers go out to the family members. >> do you have a suspect? >> we have a person of interest we're looking at? >> in custody? >> we have a person of interest. i have to get more information because i don't want to give you bad information, okay? so thank you. >> as the police chief said a news conference is planned minutes from now. we'll bring that to you live, of course. we're also getting new video from an eyewitness. it shows a red suv speeding through the parade barriers and an officer there was right behind it. here is another view of a red suv. the suv barrelling down the parade route just as the marching band is stepping out of frame. one witness you may have just heard told me she could hear the thud of people being struck and police on the scene tell her as many as 30 were injured but again, we heard actually from the police chief himself, he said more than 20 people were injured from this horrific incident there in waukesha, wisconsin. we just got this statement from the governor. kathy and i are praying for waukesha tonight and kids, family and community members affected by this senseless act. i'm grateful for the first responder and folks that acted quickly to help and we're in contact with local partners as we await more information. and we also have this tweet from wisconsin senator tammy baldwin. the horrific violence of the waukesha parade is heartbreaking. please keep the victims in your prayers tonight. joining me to discuss, national security analyst and assistant secretary of homeland security, also with me former acting baltimore police commissioner an on this though barksdale. juliette, to start with you again as we wait for more information to piece this together and we do expect this press conference to start around 30 minutes or so but we heard important information. they believe they found the vehicle. that they're looking into a person of interest and that he said there is no on going threat and that the scene is secure. what do you make from that? >> putting those pieces together they know exactly who they're looking for. that person may or may not have been known to the police before but certainly known to them now. that person is not part of some bigger, laerger effort they're worried about whether it be affiliation with other groups or organizations that may be violent so i listen to that and start to see silver lining among bad news. whether they have that person or that person is running, they clearly know two exactly that is. so that narrows the search and motivation. you have that piece with what happened in terms of the culprit and the potential motivation and then you have of course the tragedy of a parade being hit and i heard about 30 verdictims. we did not hear casualties. these are things we listen for. we may get more specific news in about 23 minutes but that is also something that silver lining again makes me happy in terms of not a large death count that's good news amongst bad. that's what we look at for incidents like this at this stage. i think we'll be able to close this out in who it is and what the extent of the harm is to that community probably within the next hour or so. >> anthony barksdale, i want to bring you in. what does that entail when the police say they are looking into a person of interest. what is going on behind the scenes? >> if an officer runs your license plate, you ask for a listing. that listing is going to provide an address that the vehicle comes back to. then the officers can go and figure out who was driving the vehicle if they don't already know. so now we're in the state where we're moving to look for the suspect. i'm not sure we don't know if shots were fired. if shots were fired, then i want swat doing this part of the procedure with detectives. if shots weren't fired then any police officer can help knock on a door, do an area canvass because if the individual isn't with the truck if you form a perimeter, you search the p perimeter, walk to an address. this is the place where police think let's make an arrest. let find this person and put him in handcuffs, him or her in handcuffs. >> and i'm wondering just picking up on the language used person of interest, he did not say suspect. do you think that's because they may know who owns this vehicle but they don't know if the owner is in fact the person behind this, juliette? >> yeah, that's exactly right. so they -- everyone -- we know who owns that car. the driver's license is known there are so many pictures ocho t of this car. the person of interest may be the same person or the owner could be a family member, child, your adult child doing something with the car. so once again, these work themselves out relatively quickly as we've seen over the course of a lot of these in terms of identifying the owner and where they might have been at the time. this will limit the investigation in terms of where motivation can take us because once again this could be motivation. we don't know. it looks horrific and purposeful. we simply don't know. >> we don't. i've covered enough tragedies in my career as a journalist where what you think you knew in the beginning, at the end it was a very different situation and so we do want to sort of hold on that judgment but we have clues and of course, part of the clues we're working off of are videos coming in of a red suv who eyewitnesss say they saw the red suv go down and hit people fast, hit people and going very fast. one eyewitness said at least 30 miles per hour from what she could gather. how important are these videos, ant anthony, for investigators? >> very important. it's evidence. social media over and over again is helping police. law enforcement solved very helpful to. >> all right. we'll be talking more to law enforcement as well to try to piece together. stand by because we'll need you again. we're waiting for the conference in waukesha, wisconsin to happen at 8:30 eastern time. our breaking news continues after this short break. this black friday, do you want a tv? or do you want. the place on the tv? why hide your skin if dupixent has your moderate-to-severe eczema, or atopic dermatitis under control? hide our skin? not us. because dupixent targets a root cause of eczema, it helps heal your skin from within, keeping you one step ahead of it. and for kids ages 6 and up, that means clearer skin, and noticeably less itch. hide my skin? not me. by helping to control eczema with dupixent, you can change how their skin looks and feels. and that's the kind of change you notice. hide my skin? not me. don't use if you're allergic to dupixent. serious allergic reactions can occur, including anaphylaxis, which is severe. tell your doctor about new or worsening eye problems, such as eye pain or vision changes, or a parasitic infection. if you take asthma medicines, don't change or stop them without talking to your doctor. when you help heal your skin from within, you can show more with less eczema. talk to your child's eczema specialist about dupixent, a breakthrough eczema treatment. ♪ i'm a reporter for the new york times. if you just hold it like this. yeah. ♪ i love finding out things that other people don't want me to know. mm-hmm. 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(naj) one that we don't take lightly. it's why our fees are structured so we do better when our clients do better. fisher investments is clearly different. still more questions than answers about what happened this evening in waukesha, wisconsin. chaos erupted during the annual holiday parade when a red suv ripped through the crowds of marchers and spectators and broke through barricades set up along the parade route. >> police say at least 20 people were injured. they also say they have recovered the vehicle that was involved and they have a person of interest. they are looking into they say but so far, other details are scarce and we're awaiting a press conference set to start in just a few minutes and we hope to get more information then. wisconsin senator ron johnson just tweeted my thoughts and prayers for everyone injured in waukesha's christmas parade. t car itude forp plow into the band. it hit at least two people right away, rolled over both of them and continued down the road to by, like, people's park at the end of the block and kept going. it didn't stop. he did not stop at all or she whoever it was. it kept going. >> reporter: did you hear gunshots? >> i did not. everyone says that but i didn't hear anything. all i heard was screaming and people yelling their children's names. >> reporter: this marching band that you saw that this car had ran into, you said this was a high school marching band? a what kind of marching band? >> i don't know. i stepped outside and hit record on my phone, perfect timing. >> reporter: so this is obviously, really, really horrible to see. what was going through your mind when you heard the screams and saw the car? what did you think was happening? >> i couldn't imagine mine being down there or anybody else i know. it was not something i wanted to see and the people that watched the video i took are also shaking and just can't believe it. so little freaked out. >> reporter: the people you saw that got hit, were they young or old? >> they looked young to me. i don't know. i was five stories up. it was a band of some sort and that's all i know. >> reporter: and just to explain where we are, you were watching this from the corner of main and barso and do you know if this was sort of the early part of the parade? were you watching the middle of it? >> i don't know. i came home in the middle of it and stepped outside i was annoyed i couldn't get home fast and i was like oh, it's a christmas parade and oh, god, here comes a guy plowing everybody down. i don't know what portion of the parade it was in at all. >> reporter: did you think right after this happened that, you know, there could be a further threat? were you frightened at the moment? >> i was a little shook up but didn't know what was happening. people were saying gunshots. i didn't hear gunshots. i'm not sure what to expect so i closed my door and went back inside and waited until it was clear and went down and talked to the police. >> okay. you stayed inside just in case there was a threat of someone firing shots? >> reporter: yes, i didn't know what to expect so i stayed inside until everything was cleared up. >> reporter: you said you don't conon know anyone you know thatt the parade. does that make you nervous not knowing if certain people are okay? >> i'm assuming my friends are okay. i was looking at facebook and nobody said they or their family members were injured personally but i don't know who was here and who wasn't. >> reporter: how fast did you see and hear response from police and ambulance? >> they were behind him before he hit the people. he hit him -- i think this is the middle of the parade but they were already running after him. so it was instant that the crowd ran into the people that were injured, as well. >> reporter: so you saw a lot of people jump into action right away even though they werwere frightened and there were screams but people were helping immediately. >> yes, yes, for sure. everybody was. people grabbed people and brought them into our building, too, so everybody helped. that was down there. so. >> reporter: what did you see as far as people brought into your building? >> i just saw them leaving. my neighbor took people in so everyone could do their job and walked outside together and shared our videos with police. that was the end of that. >> reporter: what does this feel like to process what you saw? >> it's bizarre and i've never seen anything like it and it happened to be right place right time for the video i took and not something i ever want to see again. >> reporter: and i think that you mentioned that the screams you heard, the parents calling out their kids' names sticks with you. >> that happened after. when the car hit everybody on the left side and the band members ran to the right and down the block and around the block, then you saw the parents coming from up the block screaming for their kids who either didn't come through the parade yet or in it. i don't know. >> reporter: okay. i know that you've been through a lot today and -- >> not me. those people. >> reporter: it's true. it's also very cold. i'll let angela go here. this is obviously a very shocking event for everyone. >> it is indeed. joining me now is an eyewitness ang e angelito. tell us what you experienced today. so sorry you had to go through that. >> good evening. thank you for having me. i'm an elderman not far from way waukesha and candidate for the treasury. after we had finished the route, my family and i and my campaign manager decided we wanted to circle back and go ahead back to main street to watch the rest of the parade, grab some food. but as we were heading back to main street, i saw an suv speeding along the parade route and then all of a sudden heard a loud bang and then i heard deafening cries, screams from people in attendance, people marching in the parade. folks are running away from the scene and folks were left their belongings behind holding on to their kids running away from main street where the parade was and then when the crowd cleared out, it looked like that there were people on the ground who were struck by the vehicle and then it happened all so quickly and then first responders came in, ambulances, police officers came in and secured the area, but it was truly horrifying and shocking and very saddening and upsetting. >> because you were in the parade. it waswas celebrations. then this happens. what was going through your mind as this mayhem was unfolding? >> i was truly horrified. like, the energy at the parade before everything happened was a celebration. this is a huge event in the city of waukesha. folks were -- i was really impressed by the turnout and people came together to celebrate but when i saw the vehicle speed and when i heard that loud bang still a bit shaken. a lot of uncertainty. a lot of fear. a lot of scaredness for me and my family when this was all occurring. >> when you saw the vehicle, can you describe any more about what you saw and i know it happened really fast and you're probably thinking about your safety and your family's safety but what did you observe with the vehicle? >> so i really just got a quick and heard the throttle go down and heard the loud bang. from there it happened fast. it was a chaotic scene and very sad scene and a very horrifying, so yeah, there is al lot of emotions running through folks, parents running around the area looking for their kids and families, looking for their friends. people quickly trying to get out of the area, trying to get to safety. so there is so much going on when it all happened. >> do you know what the loud bang was? >> i'm not exactly sure but from what i guess, it was the vehicle striking the crowd, striking people when they were marching in the parade. >> and did you know anyone who was injured? we know more than 20 people injured. do you know anyone? >> no, i don't know any of the victims. i'm very lucky that my family and friends are all accounted for. so my heart is with the victims. >> the ones that were on the ground, those that you did see, were they young? could you tell? i know there are a lot of young people in this parade. >> it was hard to tell but it did look like there were small children who were lying on the ground. i just saw small bodies lying almost lifeless on the ground so it was really hard to tell and there was so much happening at one time. >> it just awful. it's just awful and we're still trying to find out more about why this happened. we know police said that they're looking into a person of interest and they located the vehicle but so many unanswered questions we hope we'll get answers to coming up until the press conference. i'm glad you and your family were safe. thank you for coming on to share your story with us. >> thank you for having me. jonathan is a cnn law enforcement analyst and corporate security consultant and secret service agent and back with us is analyst andrew mccabe. he's the former deputy director of the fbi. andy, let's start with you. you know, there is still a lot we don't know but we have clues coming in from the videos and from these eyewitnesss. as you piece together what unfolded, what comes to mind right now for you, andy? >> well, i mean, you summed it up, pam. we know very little at this point and the investigators and law enforcement have a long way to go. you know, that is you can think of it like the concentric rings of a target. they'll start with the vehicle and identifying and hopefully taking into custody the operator of that vehicle and from there they start to spread out layer by layer. so they will be looking at that person's residence and get a search warrant on the residence and go through it to try to uncover if there are hazardous devices or weapons or anything like that in there or anything that indicates what led this person to this point to take this sort of action. they want to interview family members. they want to interview friends, co-workers to try to understand if there are any signs that would have tipped us off to what happened today. so there is really just an infinite range of possibilities as to what could have been behind this or what the motivations or causes were that led up to this attack but that's what they have to sort through. >> and jonathan, i want to bring you in. they have located the car and they say a person of interest but that could mean that they have just located the owner of that vehicle, right? but the owner of that vehicle wasn't necessarily the person behind the wheel. >> yeah, again, and to andy's point and what everyone else is talking about this evening is that there is a lot more we don't know than we actually do know specifically about the driver. their intentions, you know, their motivations were they targeting this specific event? were they trying to, you know, cause chaos at the parade or, you know, were they fleeing from something else? did they drive-through that barricade and start driving down the parade route? you know, unknowingly that their intent wasn't to cause harm to the parade? we just don't know at this point in time -- go ahead. >> right. but, you know, we're watching this video right now. this is actually from the city of waukesha they were live streaming and hopefully we can go back to the video. if this is someone that set out to cause mass casualties at this parade, it's interesting that it drives by some of those at the parade. >> that's a really good point and that's what investigatiors will be looking at now. when you think about a parade route, it's verynarrow, you have the parade where participants are engaging and the crowds and someone trying to target and cause this chaos and try to reach a level of mass casualties, they will try to swerve that vehicle and hit as many people as possible going for the large masses of people. i just don't see that here but again, it's very early. but, you know, taking one step back, this type of event specifically is something that law enforcement and public safety officials have been very concerned with, you know, in recent years. we've seen multiple incidents surrounding parades and actually christmas bizarres in germany that where people have focussed either intentionally or as a vehicle driving through the parades. from an event security standpoint, this is something that should have been at the top of the list for public safety officials in the area as they are planning for this event. >> all right jonathan, andy mccabe, stay with us. our breaking news continues after this short break as we await for more details coming from officials there. we can see on the bottom of the screen, there is a police news conference they're setting up for. we'll be hearing from them any minute now. stay with us. everything felt like a 'no'. everything. but then ray went from no to know. with freestyle libre 2, now he knows his glucose levels when he needs to. and... when he wants to. so ray... can be ray. take the mystery out of your glucose levels, and lower your a1c. now you know. try it for free. visit freestylelibre.us (tiger) this is the dimension of imagination. ♪ mass general brigham. when you need some of the brightest minds in medicine, this is the only healthcare system in the country with five nationally ranked hospitals, including two world-renowned academic medical centers, in boston, where biotech innovates daily and our doctors teach at harvard medical school, and where the physicians doing the world-changing research are the ones providing care. there's only one mass general brigham. every day in business brings something new. so get the flexibility of the new mobile service designed for your small business. introducing comcast business mobile. you get the most reliable network with nationwide 5g included. and you can get unlimited data for just $30 per line per month when you get four lines or mix and match data options. available now for comcast business internet customers with no line-activation fees or term contract required. see if you can save by switching today. comcast business. powering possibilities. we're following breaking news out of wisconsin tonight, really horrific account of a car flowing at high speed through the waukesha holiday parade injuring at least 20 people. police say there is not a threat to the area and confirmed they uncovered the car involved but police would not say if anyone is in custody only that there is a person of interest looking into. earlier i spoke to witness kayleigh and here is what she told me. >> we were at the parade and there were a lot of families with small children. probably around 20 to 30 minutes into the parade a red suv came running down the middle of the street so there were a lot of screams and we almost thought maybe it was santa but it was a red suv and hit a lot of people. after the suv left, there were multiple people on the ground and the police came through a little later saying at least 30 on the ground and the police said that shots were fired. i can't confirm that for you but that's what the police said. >> so was anything said as this was happening from the driver of this vehicle, this red suv as you described? did you hear anything? are there any other details or color you can provide? >> i mean, it happened really quick. the car was going fast. i don't believe the driver said anything. it was a lot of screaming. >> was it clear to you that this driver was trying to run over peopl people? >> i can't tell you for sure or not. it was in the middle of the parade. it's not like they missed a parade was happening. >> i'm trying to create the picture of. you have this parade going on in waukesha and suddenly, this red suv comes and again, describe to us the circumstances of the parade, where the car was and so forth. >> this was the annual waukesha annual holiday parade on a hiatus because of covid and a red suv came down the street hitting a lot of people in the parade at probably 30 miles per hour. >> wow. what did you witness when that happened in terms of it hitting people you said that there were families there, children there. what did you see? >> a lot of family members with small children were running into stores trying to get off the main street. you also saw a lot of people running out to help those that were hit, you know, just right in front of me in a spot i was sitting probably four people down. so a lot of people ran to go check on them and i believe that's the four people in front of me were still breathing but they were down and not moving. >> so from what you saw there were a lot of injured people. you don't know if any were killed because this is still -- >> no. >> okay. it sounds like it was just pure ma mayhem. >> to a lot of people they were shocked. a lot of people were there for a good time to get back into the holiday season and a lot of people i think are in shock right now. >> understandably. is there anything else you want to add about what you're thinking right now, what you're feeling after going through such a horrifying experience? >> well, you know, i just hope that everyone is okay. i think, you know, it is a tough situation and my heart goes out to everyone that was hit. there were a lot of children that witnessed that. i just really hope everyone there is, you know, is safe in dealing with this in the best way they can. >> that was kayleigh sterile speaking with me earlier and joining me now by phone, waukesha don paul brown. he was actually in the parade. thank you for joining us as we try to better understand how all of this happened earlier this evening in waukesha. if you would, walk us through what you witnessed. >> hi, pamela, i'd have to tell you my experience was a complete opposite of what you're covering. we were in the front of parade. i was mavrching with the march y -- mayor and walking with the 125th anniversary float and we didn't have the parade last year because of covid but it was a fun, festive atmosphere. i saw so many smiling faces, small children, kids of all ages 1 to 99. it was a great turnout and it was such a good -- great holiday spirit and, you know, i was actually on my way home in my car, you know, i passed through the parade on the way back and got to see a few friends and watch a few of the floats but i had to come home and my wife text me telling me what is going on and asking me if i'm safe and i got home and she showed me the stream and it just really, you know, really no way to describe it. you know, to hear those reports just so hard to believe that an event that was just really a great way to kick off the holiday season like it is every year turned into a venue for such senseless violence. i just -- my heart goes out to the victims and their families but also all those young children and people that witnessed all of it you know i was watching videos on the news and i couldn't bring myself to watch it all in its entirety. just so sad and usually our family just about our whole family is there, you know, there is usually one or two kids marching in it and another one that watches with my wife and myself and this is the year i was the only one able to p participate and you got everyone, all those disappointed they couldn't make it. one child had to work. another was out of town with some friends on a birthday party with pararents and friends and another had a basketball game. it is also really hard when you're hearing reports and yeah, i have friends that were there in the crowd that either witnessed it or were there with the aftermath and so it's just really so hard for me. like an alternative reality based on a parade i walked away from and now the whole nation is hearing on the news. >> it's like completely different. >> yeah. >> i mean -- >> we're -- yeah. >> i'm wondering, you know, we have seen this video and hopefully, we can pull it up. this is from the live stream from waukesha. they were live streaming the parade and if we can just pull that up, guys. you can see the red suv go by the parade goers as you can see here on the screen. you can see the suv go by the parade goers, they are untouched and go out of frame and so it makes you wonder presumably the incident happened after this otherwise you would see people running but also, did it then narrow from multiple lanes as you see here to a situation where, you know, the car really had nowhere to go? help us understand the parade route a little better if you could. >> you know, it's just -- it's an old school main street parade, you know, it starts -- it's reveerse direction from th annual fourth of july parade. it's not a long parade. our parades usually don't go more than half hour, 45 minutes and it's -- we have a very historic downtown. there is neat architecture. i joke around it would be a great set for a movie. it's real old school main street and wonderful shopping and bars and it's went up in recent years, too. so we have a friday night live there in the summer and accessible and the streets it's a really fun family event in the atmo atmosphere to understand reality. i talked to them and they were able to give me an account and describe some certain things and it's just a proud city. it's a diverse university city and we've had a great proud decision to buy a home here years ago with the schools and the different clubs and programs so it's just, you know, for all these innocent people to experience something like that, it's just really hard to understand and really hard to get my arms around. >> yeah, it will take awhile. >> yeah, and i just, you know, i hope with the holiday season, this is the first event really of the holiday season here and it attracts people from other counties around the area because it's one of the few old school christmas parties. if you've ever seen the movie christmas story, you'd know. >> this is what you're experiencing in the parade. you were done with your job until in the parade and it's surreal more than 20 people hurt. we're still await thing press conference there in waukesha. hopefully, we can get more answers. thank you for taking the time out to talk to us. >> thanks for your coverage and definitely keep our families and victims and our city in your thoughts and prayers tonight. >> absolutely. absolutely we are. we are certainly doing that. thank you. our breaking news continues after this short break. ♪ hi mr. charles. we made you dinner. aww, thank you. ♪ feel stuck with student loan debt? 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(vo) visible. unlimited data, powered by verizon. switch and get up to $200. we continue to follow breaking news out of wisconsin where more than 20 people are injured after a vehicle plowed through a holiday parade in the city of wayukesha. police ordered a stay-at-home order for people within a half mile radius. the president is monitoring and we'll hear from local police shortly. back with me is jonathan with cnn law enforcement analyst and corporate security consultant and secret service agent and senior law enforcement analyst andrew mccabe the former deputy director of the fbi. i'll start with you. the police called for a shelter in place for everyone within a half mile radius of downtown but they also said the area is safe and that there weren't on going threats. what does that tell you? >> listen, i think this is part of, you know, the incident management structure that they've put into place. what we did here early on from officials was that there were multiple l injuries and ways people were seeking help. people were transported via ambulance and we have reports law enforcement officers put people in vehicles and transported them to local area medical centers and then individuals were walking wounded, providing self-care and transporting self-transporting to medical facilities. the scene was very chaotic in that moment so the shelter in place out of abundance of caution was applied to maintain the scene safety of the surrounding areas so thatry respond responding officials could come in. the last thing you want is for individuals to come down to be onlookers to an incident so the shelter in place was necessary and that's what i'm thinking that officials were going for when they applied that because they said right away there were no additional threats. so this wasn't an environment that was under a persistent threat but something more around incident management and how first responders were going to manage this scene moving forward. >> andy, final thoughts to you. >> well, i think jonathan hit it on the head. i think they have a massive crime scene that they need to sort through now. they'll probably call in through mutual aid agreements surrounding law enforcement agencies and fbi assets to help with that and keep as many people out of that area as they can until they're able to do the investigative work they need to do to back up whatever sort of litigation comes from this whether a criminal prosecution or civil litigation that arises from injuries. so they have a lot of work to do. they're probably trying to clear the scene. >> and i just want to go back to you, jonathan, because again, people want to jump to conclusions but there is so much we don't know about this, right? even though we do know some things, more than 20 people were injured, that there was a red suv according to eyewitnesss that plowed through the holiday parade. police say they have located or looking into a person of interest. they have found the vehicle. but as you look at the clues coming from the videos, what can you glean because as we know investigators will be looking at these videos as they too try to piece together how this happened and presumably build a case down the road. >> yeah, listen, i think it's hard. we're -- i think everyone is struggling now with what was the intent of this driver? were they focused on targeting this parade specifically? or are there other contributing factors that led them to breakthrough that police barricade? one of the things that i noted as i was reviewing the video in the break was that when the red suv first broke through the police barricade, you can see that it actually has some significant front end damage that you could see the hood of the vehicle is crunched up. so looking at that investigators will say is this vehicle part of another motor vehicle accident earlier? did they hit something earlier on? whether it was that day? were they fleeing from something else? there is multiple vectors here that investigators are actually looking for to try to piece together the actual intent of that driver. again, really early on in the investigation as andy said this crime scene is really large and we don't know how far back it goes. we know it's the parade route but does the crime scene actually go out beyond that scene so. >> okay. well, we are tracking this all the latest developments. thank you both andy, jonathan, breaking news coverage continues right after a quick break. this black friday, do you want a tv? or do you want. the place on the tv? this is your home. this is your family room slash gym. the guest bedroom slash music studio. the daybed slash dog bed. the living room slash yoga shanti slash regional office slash classroom. and this is the basement slash panic room. maybe what your family needs is a vacation home slash vacation home. find yours on the vrbo app. ♪ we have to be able to repair the enamel on a daily basis. with pronamel repair toothpaste, we can help actively repair enamel in its weakened state. it's innovative. my go to toothpaste is going to be pronamel repair. >> announcer: this is cnn breaking news. welcome to our viewers until the u.s. and around the world. you're watching breaking news coverage of the mass casualty event in wisconsin at a holiday parade. cnn special report china's and stakes of america will air at 10:00 p.m. if you're just joining us, we're following breaking news out of waukesha, wisconsin. at least 20 injured after a vehicle plowed into a crowd of people gathered to march in and watch a holiday parade. there is a news conference and that's starting right now. let's go to it. >> thank you sean raleigh, city and mayor of waukesha. today we experienced a horrible senseless tragedy. i walked in the parade at th

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