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Closing arguments start tomorrow in the killing of ahmaud arbery. Police are still searching for a convicted felon who fired a gun at a security checkpoint, causing chaos at the atlanta airport. We are actively pursuing this individual. Americas top doctor now telling all adults to get a booster shot. If you are 18 and older and youve been fully vaccinated, just go out and get boosted. Im pamela brown in washington. You are live in the cnn newsroom on this sunday. It has been nearly three weeks since chinese tennis star pungshwai disappeared from officials she claimed she was assaulted. Now shes back, sort of. Their president had a video call with her, but that call is raising even more questions. Will is in taipei, but will, what do we make of the video call . Can we assume pung is okay. Peng shui is speaking, what we dont know is if shes speaking freely. Why did these socalled casual videos show the date and time and have people on the video talking about the date and time . It is clear, pamela, that she is being stage managed right now, and based on what we know about the Chinese Government and the way that they silence and censor and disappear people, she is being silenced by the government itself, by the communist party, after she made these explosive allegations against the former Vice Premiere, 75 years old. She said on her Social Media Platform with half a million followers that he coerced her to have sex last year. That video was deleted, the entire post has been erased. None of this has been released inside china on china media. All of these tweets are being put out on Social Media Platforms that are blocked in china. They are being tweeted on platforms that are not allowed inside the mainland, which means the vast majority of chinas 1. 5 billion citizens, even if theyre fans of peng shuai, are being shut up. Steve simon is demanding that he can speak directly with pe peng shuai by teleconference, with proof there is no one else present, proof she can speak freely. Either that or she should be free to leave the country. He also says there should an open, transparent investigation to these allegations. Maybe this former Vice Premiere is also being questioned, maybe he is being disciplined. How would we know . There is zero transparency about this. I want to read a portion of the quote from the Womens Tennis Association. It says, it was good to see peng shuai in these videos but they dont alleviate or address the wtas concern about her safety or the rise of Sexual Assault which gave issue to our concern. China is known for people being silenced. She has that 1. 2 Million Contract so the government thinks she is too important to just shoo away. But she is expected to put on a happy face after she got out and claimed sexual abuse from a very powerful man who used to have a lot of power when he was Vice Premiere of china. Pamela . Its worth pointing out the difference between that strongly worded statement from wta and the statement we have received from ioc. Okay, thank you so much, will ripley. Well be talking more about that coming up in the show, these controversies over peng shuais disappearance and the new concerns over the upcoming winter olympics. The beijing games are less than three months away and china has a great deal at stake. So far no country has declared a boycott. Beijing isnt the only one with big money to lose here. U. S. Companies look to china for a big chunk of their revenue. The u. S. Sports Business Institute told cnn back in 2019 that the Chinese Market makes up at least 10 of the nbas profits. That number is expected to rise to 20 by the year 2030. And athletic brands depend on china for big money as well. In 2018, nike made some 6. 2 billion in china. That number rose 21 from the previous year, and its much higher than in north america. Nike saw just a 7 increase in sales here over that same period. All of this just scratches the surface of money to be made in china. We havent even gotten into streaming and endorsement deals. So what makes china so valuable . Bottom line, its population. 1. 4 billion people. That is a huge opportunity to grow any sport or industry, and that market with the money at stake makes the stance from the ceo of the Womens Tennis Association so important and different from his peers. Were in a crossrelationship with china. There are too many times in our world today that we get into issues like this that we let business, politics, money dictate whats right and whats wrong. We have to start as a world making decisions that are based upon right and wrong, period. And we cant compromise that, and were definitely willing to pull our business and deal with all the complications that come with it, because this is certainly this is bigger than the business. The wta says this is bigger than business, as you heard, but my next guest argues its money over morals in his sport. Kanter is getting a lot of callout from places like tibet and china, even his fellow nba players like be lebron james. De Dennis Kanter joins us right now. Thank you for coming on the show. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. So what is your opinion that they have said diplomacy is the way to go . A Chinese Government official is accused of Sexual Assault, right, and she recently appeared via Chinese State media. While we know shes free, we dont know if she is, you know, free to speak, free to travel. And i believe everything is staged by the Chinese Government to keep her Under Control and to control the narrative about her. I believe, and people need to know this, this is a very common tactic used by the Chinese Government, and it is alarming that the International Olympic committee is part of it, too, and shame on them. But what made me so happy is, you know, wta went out there and said, we dont care about any of it but we care about our players. So i feel like many of the organizations in america and All Over The World should take care, look at the nba example and look at the example of it. They dont care if they lose hundreds of millions of dollars, but they care about their players. They care about human rights, morals and principles over money. I feel like, you know, nba, nfl and many other organizations should take a look at it and take an example for wta what theyre doing. Lets talk a little bit about the ioc. Those are some strong words you used against them and you wrote this oped for the Wall Street Journal calling for investigation into the olympics. What will that achieve . To all these athletes, my message is, all of the medals you can win in the world is not more important than your values, morals and principles. All the gold medals in the world you can win is not more important than your morals. Please understand this. If you look at whats happening in china right now, there are so many human rights violations. There is a genocide right now in china. I feel like all these countries, all these officials need to speak up, and there is time to speak up because there is less than 100 days until the olympics. I feel like that has to be done because we need to, you know, hold Chinese Government accountable. Okay, really quickly, i want to get to the ioc statement. They had released this before the new development today. They said, we support the quiet diplomacy approach that has been taken and hope that it will lead to the release of information about the whereabouts of p peng shuai and the confirmation of her health and wellbeing. Its worth noting about the strong stance youre taking against the wta about the Sexual Assault claims that shuai made and were taken down and she disappeared for several weeks and now she is resurfacing in this video. Still, there were so many questions. I want to point out, because you had mentioned this. You have nike for auctioning off to pay for what you call concentration camps. Nike said its confirmed that their complex suppliers do not use textile and yarn from that region. For its part, china denied any Human Rights Abuses and said there are centers aimed at stopping religious extremism and terrorism. Why do you continue to condemn nike . Do we believe that . I dont believe that. Let me tell you this, nike is the biggest sponsor for the nba, right . In America Nike Stands with black lives matter. Nike stands with the latino community. Nike stands with the lgbtq community. When it comes to china, nike remains silent. I feel like what they are doing over there is a modern day slavery and people need to understand. Nike is the biggest Hypocrite Company to meet in the world. People understand that every time you put your shoes on, you put that tshirt on your back, there is so much blood and oppression on those items, so please, think twice before you buy any of their stuff. Let me quickly ask you, you have called out lebron james for putting money over morals. Heres how he responded after the lakers played your celtics friday night. I think if you know me i dont really give too many people my energy, you know, and hes definitely not someone i would give my energy to, you know, try to use my name to create an opportunity for himself. Hes always kund of had a word or two to say my direction. He had his opportunity, i saw him in the hallway while i was by myself. I have to ask you, enes, why havent you gone up to lebron and spoken to him face to face about your concerns . First of all, even my Assistant Coach knows the story. When, first of all, he was behind me in the tunnel, i stopped to take a picture with one of the kids, and i wasnt the one passing. He was the one that literally walked by me and did not say anything. The other thing is i feel like we need to call out these hypocrite players who care about money over morals and principles, and i think one thing, someone had to do it. Someone had to do it. Because i have so many i just dont want to give you guys the whole thing, but i had so many conversations with lebrons exteammates, and even they are the ones who told mele lebron doing his own pr. And he cares about his pr more than anything. I feel like, you know, lebron james is one of them, but not many people are talking about Michael Jordan. Michael jordan hasnt done anything, nothing, for the black community in america besides just, you know, giving them money. I feel like we need to call out these ads. At least lebron james is going out there and being the voice for people who are oppressed in america. Michael jordan has not thought anything for the black community because he cares too much about his shoe sales All Over The World, and i feel like we need to call out these athletes and not be scared about who they are. Im sure a lot of people in the black community would disagree with that, and well have to put those strong allegations you just made to Michael Jordan and lebron james. We did play that to lebron, some of what you said. Ene enes kanter, thank you for being on the show today. We appreciate it. Democrats are in very good shape to expand their bill to spread out the safety net and combat climate change. Everybody knows we have our concerns, but were going to try to converge with them and get a very strong bill for the senate which well then go back and pass. The senator from pennsylvania is here, hi, senator. Thank you for being with us. I want to get to build back better, but i think its really important as chairman of the insight Intelligence Committee that i weigh in not on the specific allegations that have been made in your earlier stories. But for too long, too Many American companies have turned a blind eye to the Chinese Communist partys actions, to their almost orwelian state, the way they have used data from their chinese tech companies, the fact that they literally steal 300 to 500 billion of Intellectual Property every year, and theyve created a surveillance state. Too Many American and western ask Japanese Companies turn a blind eye because they dont want to miss the Chinese Market. Let me be clear, when i mentioned this, im not calling out the Chinese People. The Chinese People are the great people. It is the communist china, xi jinpings leadership, but theres never been an economic threat the way china poses to america. Uts time that companies, i think, not just in sports but across the board are going to have to choose which side were on. What is your message to these companies . My message is for too long, companies have said, we may know were having our Intellectual Property stolen, we may be force sbud joint ventures, but we just cannot miss the message. I think we need to know who is going to make the next big marketplace with enormous security concerns, the quantum computing, the United States of america need to invest with our allies, and one thing the American Government should and must do right away is we already had a bipartisan bill come out of the senate that would invest 52 billion in making sure semiconductors, some of those are built right here in america. You want to know why we have great inflation. This is not us against china, this means us with democracies, south korea, japan, taiwan, the eu working together. This first story was so powerful, i dont think it could go unanswered about too Many Companies who frankly turn a blind eye. Thank you for sharing that, senator warner. Im really glad you did. Its an important conversation to have. I do want to ask you about build back better before we ask you to go. Majority leader schumer says he wants it to get passed by christmas. Given how much negotiating needs to be done, is that timeline realistic . And im going to throw one more in there in the essence of time. Do you think manchin can get on board with paid family leave . Pamela, im not going to get into what joe manchin will or will not do. But as we talk about what this next bill does, we need to get people back in the work force. The best way to do that is provide child care, do prek and make sure their families will help take care of them. I have a daughter who is a type 1 diabetic. The type of insulin has quadrupled. This bill will make sure no family pays more than 35 a month for insulin. And it will also finally take on the kind of major needs we need to deal with in terms of climate change. We talk about what this means for peoples lives. We need to get this done by christmas. Thank you, senator. I hope youll come back soon. Thank you, pamela. Breaking news this hour. Christian aid groups says at least two of the hostages kidnapped in haiti last month are now free. Were getting more information coming in right now and well update you in a moment. Also tonight, Glen Hatchet On what to expect from three men accused of killing ahmaud arbery. And we have dr. Fauci on who should get a booster shot. It doesnt matter who anymore, just go out and get boosted. A Flash Robbery in an upscale Jewelry Store in broad daylight, here in the cnn newsroom. [gaming sounds] just think, hell be driving for real soon. 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Take advantage now. Wow we are following Breaking News out of haiti. Ohiobased Christian Aid Ministry says Hostage Takers have released two of its missionaries taken captive last month. We were struggling to gather the latest details. The group said this statement, quote, we provide details of their release, the reasons for their release, where they are from or their exact location. We ask that those who have more specific information about rhett lease and the individuals involved would safeguard that information. Joining us now, the publisher of the haitian times. Thank you for coming on. What have you been able to learn . Thank you, pamela, for having me. Were trying to confirm this from independent sources, and we are just waiting. I was hoping that by the time i get on air with you, i would have some more to share with you, but unfortunately i dont. I just want to say this is very good news if this turns out to be true. This has cast a shadow over the country in the last month, and its really good for us to move forward and get this issue out of the way so we can move forward. Well, when the A Group First reported the release of these two captives, u. S. Government sources said they were unaware. Does that surprise you . Well, yeah. Im talking to some people in washington as well, and thats what were getting, they are not. Thats why im hedging a bit so that we need to confirm it more than one source. Right now we are going with the Christian Aid Ministry. Its a very credible source but we want to get more on the ground to confirm that. They are being very shy because this is not ideal in the organization and they dont want to jeopardize the lives of their members on the ground in haiti right now. Its a very delicate moment right now and i can understand their situation. Yeah, and i think thats really important to point out, that we are looking for more confirmation of this. Other aid workers in haiti have publicly pleaded that a ransom not be paid because it would put a price on the head of every Relief Worker there. Is that a legitimate concern . Well, it is, because thats the dilemma that haitians in haiti face when theyre kidnapped. I think if the American Government can put its weight behind this policy, yes, i think its something to really use and get let the kidnappers know this is not lucrative, its not going to happen. This is the first time theyve gone after that Many Americans in one fell swoop. So i think this is why the negotiations have been really long and delayed, because protracted because there is no ransom being offered. Absolutely, the more you pay, the more theyll kidnap americans and haitians as well. Right, and the group initially demanded a Million Dollars per person. That is a Staggering Amount in a country reeling from an earthquake and political turmoil. How much are political gains watching this . Everybody is, because this will be a litmus test to what happens. Have you heard the expression, pump the americans, if you will . If the American Government or ministry dont hold tight, it opens up a floodgate. Its been more dangerous than it actually is now. All right, gary pierrepierre, wethank you. A car has plowed into a crowd enjoying a Holiday Parade. Were getting our first account from witnesses. Joining me on the phone is katy spai katy steral. You were at the parade. What did you see . Probably about 20 minutes into the parade, a red suv came racing down the street. There were a lot of screams and we thought maybe it was santa, but it was a red suv and it hit a lot of people. After the suv left, there were multiple people on the ground and the police came through a little bit later saying at least 30 on the ground and police said shots were fired. I cannot confirm that for you, but that is what the police said. So was anything said as this was happening from the driver of this vehicle, of this red suv, as you described . Did you hear anything . Are there any other details or color you can provide . It happened really quick. The car was going very fast. I dont believe the driver said anything, it was a lot of screaming. Was it clear to you that this driver was trying to run over people . I couldnt tell you for sure or not, but it was going very fast. It was in the middle of the street. Its not like, they somehow missed it, there was a parade happening. Thats what im trying to create, this picture of it. Youre at this parade in wisconsin. Describe the parade and what you were expecting. It was the Holiday Parade in kenosha, wisconsin. There were lots of family, lots of children there, and a red suv came running down the street, hitting a lot of the people in the parade. It probably went 30 miles per hour. Wow. And what did you witness when that happened, in terms of hitting people . You said there were families there, there was children there. What did you see . A lot of Family Members with small children were running into the stores trying to help those that were hit. Probably four people were down in the area where i was sitting, so people went down to check on them. I believe the four people were not breathing because they were down and they were not moving. From what you saw, there were a lot of injured people. You dont know if any of them have been killed. No. Knoll. A lot of people mp just there for a good time. I think if a lot of people are just in shock right now. Do you have anything you want to say after going through such a horrifying experience . I just hope everyone is okay. Its a tough generation and my heart goes out to everyone that were hit, that got inspected. There were children getting hit, too. Okay. Kaylee, thank you for coming on and sharing your firsthand experience. This is just awful. Were hoping to get more details as this unfolds. 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She didnt hear anything from the driver, it all happened super fast, but obviously she saw people on the ground, and all of this is very traumatic, clearly. Anthony barksdale, what do you make of this . We need to know more about the situation, but if there are people down, they need medical treatment. The police will need to get a description of that vehicle, put it out everywhere, get road blocks set up. But most important is to get treatment to those who have been injured and well have to get the bad guys later, but the people come first. At the same time youre working with other agencies, other departments because this is 30 people, from what were getting right now. So this is a big deal. You need mutual aid, you need other Police Departments to come in and help, but there is a lot of work to do, because also, its not only the victims, you now have a crime scene. So there is a lot to this, and we need to know more. And, again, so often, as you well know, the initial information you get turns out to be wrong because everybody is just trying to piece it together. Were told 30 but that number could change. It could all fluctuate. This woman i spoke to saw people on the ground, juliet kayyem, in the wake of this. What jumps out to you as we wait for more details to come in . What officials tell me is at least 12 Fire Department and 12 Police Department have been employed. Thats a big number, at least at the start. Its only been the last 30 minutes. They are seeing something. There is some sort of mass casualty. Mass casualty can represent anything from five up, essentially, so it could be five, it could be 30. We are, as tony was saying, youre going to triage the people there. The good news is the areas around the milwaukee area, there are great hospitals in the area, they know how to do this in terms of triage and surge capacity, getting the most injured people to the hospitals first, less injured to areas that may be further away. And then everyone just needs to do this. Obviously all eyes are on everything that can go bad right now, now that were out and about from a shooting in atlanta, which is why i was here last night, to this, and we just dont know right now whether it was, in fact, a gun or whether it was a car. Was this a purpose fortuevent o this someone trying to evade police and, therefore, Ran Into A Parade . We just dont know right now and thats why we have to wait a little bit in terms of looking at the motive issue and just focus on victims and the incident command thats in place now to protect people. Okay, were going to have more on this Breaking News. Right after this break, stay with us. Well talk on the other end. 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Right now youre actually looking at the first live pictures that we have coming from the scene, the aftermath there. This is from Affiliate Wisn. You see the police cars there. Juliette and anthony, we see this play out. Anthony barksdale, what are the police doing on the scene right now . Its kind of tough because you have victims down. At the same time the scene still hot. You dont know who was in this vehicle, where they are as far as we know, so at the same time youre assisting the victims, but you also have to protect not only your fellow officers to citizens but the area also. There is a lot of stress on police when Something Like this happens. But the incident command system, which was referred to earlier, is really vital here for all resources to be properly coordinated and ensured that everything moves smoothly for victims and the officers and medics. So as we see this, juliette, where they are presumably caring for those who are injured, who are on the ground, theyre preserving the crime scene, we dont know if that driver who plowed through the Holiday Parade and hit people, if that driver is still running loose. We have not heard from police yet about that. How big of a concern is that for you . Well, it would be a concern. Sometimes silence actually means the pursuit is ongoing or that they have him or her in a corner and that basically the capture is ongoing. So one way to read the delay in the police press conference, is because of that news. To make clear here, the most important thing in these mass were saying mass, we dont know yet but in these high casualty events in terms of when it looks like there are a lot of bodies, the most important thing in particular to a Christmas Parade is family unification. So while youre administering to people who are injured and youre using your mutual aid and incident command to get them to areas, especially in the milwaukee area, what youre also doing is trying to get families back together. They more likely than not have now been disbursed or they were separated during this. Also in a lot of tabletops and plannings we do for mass casualties, or mass planning, you are and if you have teenagers, maybe you left them on the other street. And so, that thats a key factor right now. Get families back together so they can go home and get out of harms way. And um, again, we are waiting for more details. What was behind this . Why did the car plow through this Holiday Parade . Um, but obviously, this is a big undertaking, anthony barksdale, from just, you know, investigating whats going on at the scene. Helping all of the people in need, the reunification. And then, tracking down the driver of that suv. What is going on, in terms of the resources, you think, behind finding the driver of that suv . This red suv, were told, that plowed through and i know people are starting to post videos and so forth on social media to give that could provide some clues what is going on behind the scenes right now, you think . All hands on deck. Everybody, suit up, get in. If you are off, youre youre now working. The whole team must get together and go after whoever did this. So all the Command Staff has to be in, all the officers. And neighboring jurisdictions are probably sending their troops, too. For this to all fall under an incidentcommand system, where there is a unifying Commander Top at the top. And he delegates the orders down to the team. And they disperse to try to apprehend this individual. Um, so there is a lot going on. And of course, as were watching this, juliette, look, the the holidays are right around the corner. Thanksgiving is, of course, coming up. Then, you have the other holidays after that. I am planning on going to a parade with my family, um, where i live. And, you know, this just this makes you kind of rethink that. Again, we dont know the circumstances behind this. But a Holiday Parade could be a soft target for someone wanting to cause harm. Yes, any event like this has always been a soft target. What i remind people is you are sort of, you know, dont dream of a world that never existed, right . A riskfree world. We have always had risk in this society. We try to minimize them. There are threats out there that that we have to be aware of and cognizant of and and hope they dont happen, or at least try to prevent. We have gone through a pandemic. People are still anxious to be together. Or they are very excited to be together. And not acting as smart as they should be. But i will say, i am a big fan that, you know, there is no point in being safe if you cant have fun, as well. And i think we really have to focus not as much on the threats or auls on the threats and we have to figure out a way in which we can minimize them. But also, remember whats so great about the holidays and about being with family and about being able to travel again and to be together again. You know, we we are coming out of a pandemic and it should be worth it, right . I mean, in other words, so i dont mean to minimize this but we are not going to get the risk down to zero. We are going to minimize it as much as possible in this society, that is a more dangerous one than not, often. But but also, remember that there is also reasons to also want to enjoy each other and the company that we are able to be with now. Okay. Juliette, anthony, stand by. A lot more to cover on this unfolding Breaking News story out of waukesha, wisconsin. Well be right back. 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Um, we were at the parade and there were a lot of families with small children there. Probably about 20 or 30 minutes into the parade, a red suv came running down the middle of the street. So there were a lot of screams and we almost thought maybe it was santa but it was an suv and it hit a lot of people. After the suv left, there were multiple people on the ground and the police came through a little bit later saying, um, at least 30 on the ground. And the police said that shots were fired. I cannot confirm that for you. But that is what the police said. So, was anything said, um, as this was happening from the driver of this vehicle of this red suv as you describe . Did you hear anything . Are there any other details or color you can provide . It happened really again, the car was going very fast but i i dont believe the driver said anything. It was it was a lot of screaming. And was it clear to you that this driver was trying to run over people . I cant tell you for sure or not but it was going very fast and and it, you know, it was in the middle of the parade. Its not like they somehow missed that there was a parade happening. Right. Thats what i am trying to to create the picture of. So basically, you have this parade going on in waukesha. Then suddenly, this red suv comes and and just, again, describe to us the circumstances of the parade, where the car was, and so forth. The annual Holiday Waukesha Parade and i believe that it was on a hiatus because of covid, its first year back. And around 20 to 30 minutes in the Downtown Part of the city, there were lots lots of family, lots of children there and a red suv came came running down the street, um, hitting, you know, a lot of the people in th

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