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grief, for a country in mourning, before a world in shock. >> diana's death really did bring the royal family to its knees. >> diana was the very essence of compassion, of duty, of style, of beauty. >> diana seems to have defied her critics, people who wanted her to shut up and go away. >> we will all feel cheated always that you were taken from us so young. >> diana was a pioneer. she was ahead of her time. >> she haunted the royal family and still haunts the royal family to this day. diana is never far away. >> i had dreams as a young girl that i wanted this, that, and the other thing. not want, hoped. ♪ ♪ this is cnn breaking news. >> i'm jean in washington and in paris, france, tonight, a tragedy. princess diana has been in an automobile accident. she's been injured. her companion dodi al fayed, with whom she's been romantically linked, reportedly was killed. >> i saw there was a message on the phone answering machine and it was from a fleet street editor saying had i seen the news about princess diana and did i want to say anything. >> we have reports from paris that diana, princess of wales, has been killed in a car accident. >> the accident happened as their car was being chased by photographers through a road tunnel near the eiffel tower. the princess died in hospital a few hours later. >> our correspondent nicholas is with me now. one's heart goes out to the young princes, william and harry. >> william and harry, indeed. i don't know whether the princes themselves would have been told yet but certainly the prince of wales has been told and the queen would have been told about it as well. >> the news came through directly from paris from our ambassador out there, sir michael jay. i think charles was in absolute shock that this had happened. he felt immediately for his sons, obviously, and there was personal grief as well. this was a woman he had loved and there was also this feeling of oh, my god, i'm going to get blamed for this. >> the marriage was over, but he still felt a huge obligation towards her, mainly in the shape of his sons who were sleeping a few yards away. >> the queen and prince charles got up and talked together, discussed whether they should tell the boys. and i think what rightly charles decided, what is the point of waking up the boys now? we don't know the truth of it. we'll wait until the morning. he chose, i believe, to talk to william first, his eldest, which is understandable and together, they then went and told prince harry, who was just 12. i think charles' decisions that night came from the heart, actually. he felt absolutely that his ex-wife was still the mother of the future king, and was still the woman he had once loved and was still royal in some measure and should be treated accordingly. >> there was no doubt that in those last few months of diana's life, the relationship between prince and princess had improved quite considerably. he would pop in and say hello and diana was thrilled about it. she said, you'd never guess who just came to see me. my ex-husband. >> charles and diana were on better terms in the months after the divorce. she even from time to time came to him for advice. >> after all the trouble and strife they had been through, it was all that much more remarkable, really. >> i can remember the first conversation i had with tony blair and he said, this is going to be like nothing we've ever seen. >> dawn had not yet broken over buckingham palace as people began to arrive to pay respects, young people grieving for a princess they regarded as their own. >> she was young. she was fresh. she showed that the royal family wasn't something that was still stuck in the 18th century. ♪ >> i remember seeing crowds that were mourning, just be very different. there were asian people. there were black people. there were old people. there were younger people. it did not feel like what we had been used to. it was very powerful in that it showed you the kind of people who had built this coalition of love and support around diana. >> the news about diana's death traveled all over the world. it reached every corner of the globe. >> for a country born in rebellion against british royalty, it was a remarkable outpouring of grief for a fallen princess of wales. ♪ >> we have experienced shocking deaths before. jfk, a perfect example, but nothing like this and on this scale. >> it would have been a big challenge for tony blair because he was a very new prime minister at this point. there wasn't really a rule book about how to deal with anything like this. >> the people everywhere, not just here in britain, everywhere, they kept faith with princess diana. they liked her. they loved her. they regarded her as one of the people. she was the people's princess. and that's how she will stay, how she will remain in our hearts and in our memories forever. >> the phrase "the people's princess" would absolutely cause a division between the public and the royal family. so you have to ask, what is the royal family? are they not the people's prince or the people's queen? >> i remember reporting that morning on the fact that the boys were seen going to church. i thought, how strange, but this is a family that does things by routine. >> the service in the local church lasted an hour but not once was the princess mentioned by name. as prince charles and his sons left with the rest of the family, princess diana's brother was giving his very public and very angry reaction to her death. >> good morning. i want to read this statement. it would appear that every proprietor and editor of every publication that has paid for intrusive and exploitive photographs of her to risk everything in pursuit of diana's image has blood on his hands today. >> diana and her brother charles were very close as children. their relationship went through highs and lows but essentially, i think there was a huge love between the two of them. >> there had been difficult times between them, but it's the birthday party, it was her 36th and it was a charity event and she did say to one of her friends the only person i want to see in that whole room is my brother, charles. and it was, in fact, the last time they saw each other. >> flanked by an honor guard, the body of diana princess of wales leaves a hospital in paris. >> prince charles went to the hospital in paris and when he saw her body, he noticed that she was missing one of her gold earrings and he said she can't go without her earring. he can't fully confront his grief so he becomes fixated on one small object. those who saw charles come out of the room said that he was like a different man. he was completely grief-stricken. >> crowds are gathered outside the princess' london home kensington palace and outside buckingham palace. >> all these people had come instinctively, they had gravitated to buckingham palace as the focal point of their grief. and there wasn't a candle in a window. there wasn't a piper playing. there was nothing to acknowledge the sense of loss that people were feeling. i can remember thinking, hmm, that's not a good sign. ♪ >> the public needed and wanted somebody within those palace walls to come out and mourn with them because there is no support for diana. there is no mourning or grieving. where is it? 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wandered amid tributes to princess diana outside kensington palace. >> there was a very real sense of concern among charles' protection staff that the prince of wales could be the focus of some public reaction. they thought that people might shout at him, someone might throw something, a rotten tomato, or turn their back on him, something that would be devastating for the monarchy and for charles personally and would greatly hurt william and harry. >> for them in that moment, it was a huge foreshadowing of what the rest of their lives would be like and there was an expectation, i think, that even as young children they would be mourning in this dignified way and they would be meeting people from all walks of life. >> one of them said later that many of the hands they shook were wet, wet from tears. >> i think many of us feel that is the first time we seen charles be a father. >> charles. >> thank you. >> once diana died, he really did step up to the plate. he was there for them. people were craving contact with their monarch. they wanted to know their queen had feelings, as well. >> it was a very, very bold example of personal leadership that the queen should mingle with the crowds because as far as she knew, they might be a hostile crowd out there. >> protocol and precedent dramatically overturned as the queen responded to the public's mood. hurt by suggestions the royal family were indifferent after the death of princess diana, she left no one in any doubt that she was deeply moved by this overwhelming grief that is felt by the whole nation. >> the royals sort of pulled it out at the last minute. the queen's decision to speak directly from buckingham palace was the key moment. >> it really was unprecedented for the queen to bow to public pressure and address us live from buckingham palace. >> what i say to you now as your queen and as a grandmother, i say from my heart. first, i want to pay tribute to diana myself. she was an exceptional and gifted human being. in good times and bad, she never lost her capacity to smile and love, nor to inspire others with her warmth and kindness. i admired and respected her for her energy and commitment to others and especially for her devotion to her two boys. this week at balmoral we have all been trying to help william and harry come to terms with the devastating loss that they and the rest of us have suffered. >> she humanized diana and she spoke very sincerely. one thing about the queen is that she says no more or less than what she feels. everything she said about diana in that address came from her heart. >> i admired and respected her. >> that eve of the funeral is almost a turning point in the reign where the queen comes under the most sustained pressure she's ever been under. >> it was that ferocious backlash from the public that forced them to think, if we don't modernize, we'll die as an institution. >> there has been this myth that diana was a royal rebel but diana was in many ways a conventional and traditional person. she was immensely in awe of the queen and the institution she knew the power of monarchy. >> i long to talk to her. i've always said to her, i'll never let you down. >> there is no doubt that the monarchy had to change after diana's death. diana had demonstrated a new kind of royalty and the family really learned those lessons enormously quickly. the queen for example went to glasgow in scotland and went and sat in this couple's house, a very impoverished couple, and who made the queen tea. >> could i just have a little milk? >> a highly unusual thing for her to do and she would not have done that i don't think had it not been for the diana influence. >> up until diana, there was really this invisible wall between the royal family and the public. she broke down that wall when she was a part of the royal family between us and them. people genuinely did feel she was their mother or their daughter or their sister. >> hello. >> she rubbed shoulders with very ordinary people. you see people's faces light up because they knew she cared about them. >> it was because diana had much such a difference to other people's lives that we wanted to do the same. in the days after diana's death, the people forced the royal family to change. but it's at the funeral that we'll see whether they've changed enough. 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(vo) reflect on the past, celebrate the future. season's greetings from audi. it's a tragedy but it's historic as well and we thought we'd stay and watch it. it's a wonderful place to watch in the middle of new york city. >> across the middle east, troubles were put aside as they watched the live television coverage where they could. hong kong's union jack flew at half mass and floral tributes were laid outside the british consulate. thousands of citizens gathered outside to watch the service. >> so many people watched the funeral. 2.5 billion people tuned in. people stopped what they were doing all over the world to watch this. >> the comptroller in charge said we're a bit worried that we won't be able to fill westminster abbey. ♪ >> when they carried diana's casket in and i could see it from where i was sitting, i actually felt physical pain. i felt as if my heart was breaking. >> i stand before you today the representative of a family in grief, in a country in mourning, before a world in shock. we're all united not only in our desire to pay our respects to diana but rather in our need to do so. diana was the very essence of compassion, of duty, of style, of beauty. all over the world, she was a symbol of selfless humanity. a standard barer for the rights of the truly downtrodden. >> earl spencer captured the spirit of diana, talking about what made her unique. but he was angry. >> there is no doubt that she was looking for a new direction in her life at this time. she talked endlessly of getting away from england mainly because of the treatment she received at the hands of the newspapers. it is a point to remember that of all the ironies about diana, perhaps the greatest was this, a girl given the name of the ancient goddess of hunting was in the end the most hunted person of the modern age. and beyond that, on behalf of your mother and sisters, i pledge that we, your blood family, will do all we can to continue the imaginative and loving way in which you were steering these two exceptional young men so that their souls are not simply immersed by duty and tradition but can sing openly as you planned. >> setting the two families apart and against one another in that way was extraordinary to hear. >> i remember at the time just thinking, ooh, so spicy. it felt very righteous and fiery in appropriate measure. but i think that it very much registered as a family that was upset about how their sister had been treated. i think for the public was really a stand-in for them. it was like, here is someone who is giving a tiny ounce of what we believe should be said. it certainly felt like it was a lightning rod moment. >> he read his eulogy to her. he sat beside the coffin. he read it to her, and he said it sounds barmy probably, but i felt that she approved of my words. >> above all, we give thanks for the life of a woman i'm so proud to be able to call my sister, the unique, the complex, the extraordinary and irreplaceable diana, whose beauty both internal and external will never be extinguished from our minds. >> you heard a sound like rain outside. at first, nobody knew what this noise was. >> it was quite unnerving. it sounded like hail on a tin roof. >> we all looked up and the sun was shining, you know, it was a beautiful day. [ applause ] >> and then it was inside the abbey and swept up to the altar. >> the royal family must have thought, this is treason. this is so telling. this is what people really think about us. we're going to have to do things differently. >> william and harry i believe joined in with that applause, the queen certainly did not. i imagine at that stage she was sitting in quite a state of shock. >> one by one the unwritten rules surrounding the royal family are falling away. royal protocol is out of the window and the diana effect only grows stronger from here. certified turbocharger, suspension and fuel injection. translation: certified goosebumps. certified from headlamp to tailpipe. that's certified head turns. and it's all backed by our unlimited mileage warranty. that means unlimited peace of mind. mercedes-benz certified pre-owned. translation: the mercedes of your dreams is closer than you think. at vanguard, you're more than just an investor, you're an owner with access to 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country ached with sadness. >> people say to me, thank you. >> she was remarkably insecure. she had no real concept of her popularity, of her power of persuasion. she thought she just went out and smiled and said interesting thing and people were grateful and took their photographs and went away. it was much more than that. people went away from their encounters with diana, and they never forget about them. >> it's easy to say i think she would have gone on to be an even greater figure, but i do. the legacy that she leaves are her sons. she de-royaled them in a way. they've been taken out of the box of monarchy, and they've been made modern, and we'll see the benefit of diana's legacy when william comes to the throne, when a new order takes shape. the future of the british monarchy is still in diana's hands. >> diana was the people's princess, and will chose one of those people to be his bride. >> william and kate, they have to be the rock that keeps the house of windsor trundling down the historical highway. but they also know the world will be a very different place for their children and for them by the time they come to the throne. >> will and kate are definitely modernizing the face of the royal family, and i think a big part of that is how accessible they are, how relatable they are. >> i think in william, we have someone who diana felt the burden of kingship weighed very, very heavily on his shoulders, but who was really stepping up to the mark, who has all of her empathy with people and a modern way of doing things, as she had, and as the makings of a great king. >> thank you very much. >> william and kate are more emblematic than anybody of the way the royal family has adjusted and incorporated the best of diana. >> harry, of course, is on a different path to his brother but a path that i'm certain that his mother would be proud of. >> in choosing his wife, harry went against royal expectation in various ways. he went for a woman who is american, an actress, a career woman, biracial, a feminist, very politically engaged. >> race has played a part ever since meghan and harry got together. meghan markle was not the woman who the establishment thought prince harry would end up with. >> nobody expected that. the tabloid press did not expect that, and large sections of the public did not expect that. and when that happened, there was a backlash. but one of the things that you'd see with meghan markle that i think you saw with diana is a real determination of spirit. >> princess diana was a blueprint for harry and meghan. she was the model of, you can escape if you want, but you have to fight for it, and you might lose a few things in the process. diana's life was cut short just as she found her freedom. but harry and meghan can forge their own path. >> i think harry and meghan represent new possibility for the royal family and a new way of life. they've moved to california. they're living on their own. they're doing these deals. they're certainly very active in the charitable space. they're able to live life on their own terms, and i do think diana would have loved that for harry. >> in the way that princess diana brought up her sons, she really shaped the men they would become. and in doing so, she changed the direction of the royal family. >> diana's legacy is rippling through history in an extraordinary way and i think a way we've never seen before. >> it's a story that if we are intelligent and perceptive we can see still has a continuing relevance not just for the modern royal family but for many other aspects of society, for people in the public eye. what we should expect of them and what we shouldn't. >> usually famous figures fade away into the pages of history. not diana. the tragedy is that we'll never know what diana could have become. >> diana had this fairytale that young girls are brought up on that you marry the prince and you live happily ever after. and in a time when there was a lot of change for women in general, she broke away from this fairytale and said, i would kind of rather do it on my own. >> but even in fairytales, being a princess is like living in a gilded cage, and anyone who does actually become a princess in real life, you realize that that is just an illusion. >> but she crafted a new image of a modern princess, of somebody who is independent and accomplished and has a voice and an identity, and i think especially for little girls today, what a role model to have. >> princess diana's life was a blueprint for the modern woman. >> diana will be relevant for eternity. >> she could present herself in such a way that she could outshine anybody, outglitz anyone, dominate a gathering. and then it would be all over and she might come up to me and say, how did i do? you were fantastic. >> we can all just continue to create stories about what could have been, and that's the sadness around the short life of diana -- what could have been from this extraordinary woman that 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